Comments on: GM Readying Multiple 1-Series Fighters? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:54:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: jkross22 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-162792 jkross22 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:39:05 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-162792 Name one CAR other than the Vette GM executes to the level of class leader. Anybody? Anybody? Buehler? Why would anyone have faith this will either be released in the next 5 years, and if it is released, that it won't be a complete clusterf*ck? Name one CAR other than the Vette GM executes to the level of class leader.

Anybody? Anybody? Buehler?

Why would anyone have faith this will either be released in the next 5 years, and if it is released, that it won’t be a complete clusterf*ck?

]]> By: olddavid http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161962 olddavid Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:24:54 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161962 <p>I may be the only one who thinks this could work.</p> <p>Anything that gets people thru the doors is a good thing, regardless of where they were yesterday. Besides, SAAB can do this with FWD, just let the guys named Lars and Torsten and Hakan do their jobs, and minimize interference from the Wagoner cadre.</p> <p>The upcoming generation of designers need to be given their head to find that elusive combo of price, performance and appeal. The old saying" sell the sizzle, not the steak", is apropos, but the quality will need to be there from day one.</p> <p>Besides, am I the only one who sees this 1-series as an overpriced wannabe car that hasn't exactly set the bar that high? I don't get the panache associated with BMW, and I am ashamed to say that my wife has one, although it was purchased used for 50% of book, otherwise it would never have been on our radar. They are very solid drivers, but under the conditions we drive, our old 96 Eldorado was equally satisfying, and half the money (comparing MSRP's) of her current 7. My son says it's an age thing (he's 15) and it is increasingly apparent that he is correct.</p> <p>How the hell did this happen?</p>

I may be the only one who thinks this could work.

Anything that gets people thru the doors is a good thing, regardless of where they were yesterday. Besides, SAAB can do this with FWD, just let the guys named Lars and Torsten and Hakan do their jobs, and minimize interference from the Wagoner cadre.

The upcoming generation of designers need to be given their head to find that elusive combo of price, performance and appeal. The old saying" sell the sizzle, not the steak", is apropos, but the quality will need to be there from day one.

Besides, am I the only one who sees this 1-series as an overpriced wannabe car that hasn't exactly set the bar that high? I don't get the panache associated with BMW, and I am ashamed to say that my wife has one, although it was purchased used for 50% of book, otherwise it would never have been on our radar. They are very solid drivers, but under the conditions we drive, our old 96 Eldorado was equally satisfying, and half the money (comparing MSRP's) of her current 7. My son says it's an age thing (he's 15) and it is increasingly apparent that he is correct.

How the hell did this happen?

]]> By: Nicodemus http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161622 Nicodemus Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:03:53 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161622 I work in the car industry. I have worked for Jaguar, Ford, GM, The Rover Group, Dana and Hella as a product design engineer. Whilst an industry background may make one better informed on some technical matters, I don't see how it makes ones opinion any more valid when commenting on the strategic direction of the industry. It does however, embue one with considerable scepticism of the competence of upper management. Particularly retards like Wagoner. I work in the car industry. I have worked for Jaguar, Ford, GM, The Rover Group, Dana and Hella as a product design engineer.

Whilst an industry background may make one better informed on some technical matters, I don’t see how it makes ones opinion any more valid when commenting on the strategic direction of the industry.

It does however, embue one with considerable scepticism of the competence of upper management. Particularly retards like Wagoner.

]]> By: dpeppers http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161552 dpeppers Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:28:45 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161552 Do any of the people who post here actually work in the car industry (not speculate on it). To answer quickly.... I do. Do any of the people who post here actually work in the car industry (not speculate on it). To answer quickly…. I do.

]]> By: shaker http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161522 shaker Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:39:20 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161522 Well, "A 4WD Saab?" just left the scene, leaving a gaping hole for another ($@%^&&) "Saab". (Even though it was a Subaru.) GM already has a RWD hot hatch ('vette), and put one out to pasture (Camaro, Firebird). Let me say that I enjoy the utility of my '97 Camaro, but the room taken up by the RWD (in this case, a "live" axle) would penalize a smaller vehicle by making the limited cargo space an odd-shaped mess. Well, “A 4WD Saab?” just left the scene, leaving a gaping hole for another ($@%^&&) “Saab”.
(Even though it was a Subaru.)

GM already has a RWD hot hatch (‘vette), and put one out to pasture (Camaro, Firebird).

Let me say that I enjoy the utility of my ‘97 Camaro, but the room taken up by the RWD (in this case, a “live” axle) would penalize a smaller vehicle by making the limited cargo space an odd-shaped mess.

]]> By: Nicodemus http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161492 Nicodemus Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:52:58 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161492 A rear wheel drive SAAB? What the...? SAAB defines FWD...they have never made a rear wheel drive production car. For good reason too. The layout was considered better suited for driving fast and safely on frozen Swedish roads. Right or wrong that is their heritage. A rear wheel drive SAAB?

What the…?

SAAB defines FWD…they have never made a rear wheel drive production car. For good reason too. The layout was considered better suited for driving fast and safely on frozen Swedish roads.

Right or wrong that is their heritage.

]]> By: moraviapils http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161382 moraviapils Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:23:54 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161382 Does anyone trust GM to do this without messing it up horribly? Does anyone trust GM to do this without messing it up horribly?

]]> By: Redbarchetta http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161352 Redbarchetta Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:46:46 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161352 I thought they couldn't decide to build FWD or RWD in the future. If they are concerned they can't make a midsized car in RWD that will help them with CAFE why on earth would they make an even smaller one in RWD. I call BS on the RWD we are going to get 5 or 6 badge engineered Astras instead, that fits with the way they work better. I will never understand why they don't concentrate all their production dollars on making one really great well price model instead of spreading themselves thin badge engineering all these half assed variants of the same platform. They must love competing within their own company. I thought they couldn’t decide to build FWD or RWD in the future. If they are concerned they can’t make a midsized car in RWD that will help them with CAFE why on earth would they make an even smaller one in RWD. I call BS on the RWD we are going to get 5 or 6 badge engineered Astras instead, that fits with the way they work better. I will never understand why they don’t concentrate all their production dollars on making one really great well price model instead of spreading themselves thin badge engineering all these half assed variants of the same platform. They must love competing within their own company.

]]> By: guyincognito http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161332 guyincognito Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:43:29 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161332 I love the idea of a 1 series fighting sporty rwd Buick. GM could then release a Saturn branded Hummer H2, a Chevy branded ultra luxury sedan, and a Cadillac economy car to complement it in their super dealerships. I love the idea of a 1 series fighting sporty rwd Buick. GM could then release a Saturn branded Hummer H2, a Chevy branded ultra luxury sedan, and a Cadillac economy car to complement it in their super dealerships.

]]> By: Jordan Tenenbaum http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161312 Jordan Tenenbaum Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:21:47 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161312 I think I'm going to go with side B. While I do think the 9-1 will be produced, It literally has to be FWD. I think I’m going to go with side B. While I do think the 9-1 will be produced, It literally has to be FWD.

]]> By: BlueBrat http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161262 BlueBrat Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:25:39 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161262 I like the concept SAAB sketch. Though I have my doubts of the ride quality coming from GM/SAAB vs the MINI. I like the concept SAAB sketch. Though I have my doubts of the ride quality coming from GM/SAAB vs the MINI.

]]> By: Cicero http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-readying-mini-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-161252 Cicero Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:25:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/gm-readying-mini-fighter/#comment-161252 At GM, building five mediocre vehicles is always preferred to making one really good one. It looks like things aren't going to change any time soon. At GM, building five mediocre vehicles is always preferred to making one really good one. It looks like things aren’t going to change any time soon.

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