Comments on: GM in Talks to Sell Medium Duty Truck Unit to Isuzu

By: Stingray

Stingray — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:48:36 +0000

Banger, the Isuzu D-Max platform already underpins the Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon pickups.

Different engines, front ends, some cosmetic details inside…

Particularly, the gas 4 banger we get here is crappy. I’d take the Vortec 2800 of the Colorado.

Diesel version has a 3.0 tdi engine.

Top of the line… V6 3.5 lts.

By: RedStapler

RedStapler — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:36:57 +0000

The UAW seems hell bent on killing their Golden Goose.

Mercedes (Freightliner) already had dominant market share in the class 7&8 market when the bought out Fords Truck business in 1997. They rebadged it Sterling and aimed it at the Vocational market segment.

Ironically Ford thought that using their Louisville plant to built the Expeditions/F250/F350 would be more profitable.

I wonder if they would bring a 2.5 or 3L diesel D-Max Pickup to the USDM if Mahindra succeeds with their small diesel pickup. I’d love to have a no frills 4WD pickup with a 5 or 6 speed manual.

By: Banger

Banger — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:30:13 +0000

Isuzu’s medium-duty (class 3-7) truck business is about as strong as it needs to be for a long, sustainable future.

GMs medium-duty truck business has been on shaky legs for a long time now.

Isuzu has already been selling a re-badged version of the Chevy/GMC body pictured, even right here in the US market.

It seems to me, given the above, Isuzu stands to (1) get a little tech off of GM trucks, and (2) reap increased profits because they’ll kill off re-badged redundancy (such as the pictured truck and the GM “W-Series” trucks– a.k.a Isuzu N-Series wearing a bowtie).

I say if the deal is good enough, go for it.

I think they should use any profits from this venture, however, to bring their world-platform pickup (”DMax,” is it?) to our shores. Even if it’s only so they can market it to parts stores and courier fleets (as fits with their “commercial trucks only” mantra of late.)

By: John Horner

John Horner — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:49:06 +0000

“I’d veto it too if I were in the position of the Flint people. ”

Yet now if the Isuzu deal happens there may be no jobs for Flint or Springfield.

By: Stingray

Stingray — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:47:32 +0000

Yes Isuzu has a strong commecial truck business, but I bet is not as strong as GM in your market.

It would be a good move if Isuzu purchases it:

1) It gives a bigger path to enter Mexican market, possibly with manufacturing capacity, key to enter there, you know, GOOD.

2) It gives more market share in the US market.

3) It may open the doors to sell their trucks under their brand in all latin-america.

4) It gives them an expanded lineup

But, there’s always a but… now Toyota owns about 5% of them (as far as I remember), and Toyota also owns Hino. So… ummm…

I vote buy it. Isuzu needs to grow as company. Go for it.

By: mel23

mel23 — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:31:24 +0000

It looks as if the Flint workers had a veto over the move and exercised it since it meant they would lose their jobs in favor of Springfield workers getting more jobs. I’d veto it too if I were in the position of the Flint people. These people are desperate.

By: jaje

jaje — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:19:00 +0000

What I don’t get. UAW rank and file is falling to historic lows. Seems they are so greedy and only care about their self preservation rather than having some level of voluteered flexibility (you have to rake them against the coals to get any concession). They seem so archaic a structure as GM’s business model that UAW needs to just go away as they have long since over extended their initial purpose and are now one of the biggest problems.