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	<title>Comments on: GM Buyouts, Pt. 2: New UAW Contract Saves $2.1b p.a.</title>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-470421</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much would the truck in the picture cost with a modern drivetrain? Would prob perform just fine with a 200HP V-6 b/c the truck doesn&#039;t weigh that much... 

And yes, I&#039;ve worked on alot of the 30s and 40s vehicles so I am aware of the safety issues like:

in cab gas tanks - move it out back between the rails
steering column spears - add U-joints
brakes - upgrade to discs

add rust proofing, sound proofing, and refine the materials used through the truck JUST A LITTLE and then sell it to me for $10K.</description>
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<p>And yes, I&#8217;ve worked on alot of the 30s and 40s vehicles so I am aware of the safety issues like:</p>
<p>in cab gas tanks &#8211; move it out back between the rails<br />
steering column spears &#8211; add U-joints<br />
brakes &#8211; upgrade to discs</p>
<p>add rust proofing, sound proofing, and refine the materials used through the truck JUST A LITTLE and then sell it to me for $10K.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: taxman100</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-469391</link>
		<dc:creator>taxman100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM/UAW processes is a snapshot of how things are done in the country today. 

Short of oil and gasoline?  Let&#039;s do absolutely nothing about it buy make pie-in-the-sky promises about how some future painless technology will solve everything painlessly. 

If you think the UAW is bad, try dealing with the EPA, Bureau of Worker&#039;s Compensation, etc.  We are being lapped by other countries while we choke on regulation and socialism.</description>
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<p>Short of oil and gasoline?  Let&#8217;s do absolutely nothing about it buy make pie-in-the-sky promises about how some future painless technology will solve everything painlessly. </p>
<p>If you think the UAW is bad, try dealing with the EPA, Bureau of Worker&#8217;s Compensation, etc.  We are being lapped by other countries while we choke on regulation and socialism.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-467001</link>
		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Laid-off workers could be moved to a car assembly factory in nearby Orion Township, where GM is negotiating with the UAW to add a third shift. Negotiations? &quot;We haven&#039;t got anything final,&quot; says Mike Dunn, bargaining chairman of UAW Local 5960. &quot;We&#039;re always looking to bring work in. We&#039;re hoping before the year&#039;s out that we can accomplish this goal.&quot; Hey, what&#039;s the rush?&lt;/i&gt;

Contrast the above labor/management train-wreck with the quiet efficiency of the transplants. Toyota &amp; Subaru quietly team up to make a new RWD sport coupe and it&#039;s simply getting done. 

And thinking of Subie, GM owned a chunk of it 5+ years ago. Were labor issues or management incompetence or something else the reason GM didn&#039;t use the Subie AWD system? Cuz at the time, GM sure seemed willing to offer a couple billion option package combinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Laid-off workers could be moved to a car assembly factory in nearby Orion Township, where GM is negotiating with the UAW to add a third shift. Negotiations? &#8220;We haven&#8217;t got anything final,&#8221; says Mike Dunn, bargaining chairman of UAW Local 5960. &#8220;We&#8217;re always looking to bring work in. We&#8217;re hoping before the year&#8217;s out that we can accomplish this goal.&#8221; Hey, what&#8217;s the rush?</i></p>
<p>Contrast the above labor/management train-wreck with the quiet efficiency of the transplants. Toyota &amp; Subaru quietly team up to make a new RWD sport coupe and it&#8217;s simply getting done. </p>
<p>And thinking of Subie, GM owned a chunk of it 5+ years ago. Were labor issues or management incompetence or something else the reason GM didn&#8217;t use the Subie AWD system? Cuz at the time, GM sure seemed willing to offer a couple billion option package combinations.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 26theone</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-466102</link>
		<dc:creator>26theone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant! a company that has to pay their employees to leave and has to pay their dealers to shut down.  Where can I sign up to invest in this company?</description>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-465881</link>
		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But wait, if they were bought out, how much did it cost to save the 2.1 per year?  How many years will it take to get that back? Will GM still be around when that happens?</description>
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		<title>By: Mj0lnir</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-465661</link>
		<dc:creator>Mj0lnir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job. If they can find a way to save another $10 billion, they&#039;ll have their cash burn for next year covered.</description>
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		<title>By: NBK-Boston</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-buyouts-pt-2-new-uaw-contract-saves-21b-pa/comment-page-1/#comment-465621</link>
		<dc:creator>NBK-Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the retro.</description>
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