You took the words right out of my mouth.

NEVER, and I really mean it… NEVER trust what GM has to say. It is usually self serving, and most likely false.

phargophil: but then all that hydrogen infrastructure would be bombed to craters by oil sheikh-backed jihadists…

I look forward to the day when Lutz retires and we don’t have to hear from or about him anymore. In fact, all of the 60+ year old “leaders” in the US need to leave the stage. They have done more than enough to us.

GM and Toyota are correct. It makes no sense as an automotive fuel. It may make sense for other things, but its future as a portable fuel is decades away, if ever.

Separate from the frequent emphasis on hydrogen cars, the reality is hydrogen can be used to power many applications. The next cell phone call you make could be powered by hydrogen since fuel cell power supplies support cell phone towers. In addition, the next time you shop at Wal-Mart the box of Oreo cookies and the new Blue Ray movie you purchase could be transported with a fuel cell forklift.

While the transition to hydrogen may appear to be complicated and far into the future, organizations such as Shell, Chevron, and BP are working with the Department of Energy now to establish a hydrogen fueling infrastructure. An initial $10 to $15 billion investment, equivalent to about one month of military spending in Iraq, would establish an initial refueling infrastructure within 2 miles anywhere within the top 100 metro areas and along all US highways. Furthermore, more than 40 billion kg of hydrogen are produced globally each year with production plants located near or within every major metropolitan city in the US – enough to fuel 130 million fuel cell-electric vehicles annually. Since hydrogen is also used to produce gasoline, switching from gas to hydrogen is simpler than it appears.

The Hydrogen Education Foundation appreciates the complexity of transitioning to using new fuels. We invite everyone to learn about what is fact and fiction about hydrogen as an alternative fuel.

Both GM and Toyota have been researching and developing hydrogen vehicles as well, but ultimately they’ve decided it doesn’t make sense. On that note, nice to see GM making sense for once.

I also recall reading that the terrorist and oil wars have cost us $400 billion so far.

I think we could have had that infrastructure by now.

Yeah, those bozos at Honda don’t know nothin’ bout nothin’. They couldn’t engineer their way out of a paper bag. You should send them a copy of that article–except those nincompoops probably can’t even read.

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/27/1834219

Honda will figure it out, eventually…