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	<title>Comments on: General Motors Death Watch 105: Bob Lutz Screws the Pooch</title>
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		<title>By: Toxie2725</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/general-motors-death-watch-105-bob-lutz-screws-the-pooch/comment-page-3/#comment-29531</link>
		<dc:creator>Toxie2725</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to honoestly say that yes, I would prefer to drive a Pilot over a CRV. Does that make me evil, irresponable? No it doesen&#039;t, although YOU seem to think [quote] Americans are selfish bastards who will buy gas-guzzling land yachts– unless they can’t afford to.[/quote] THat buying a SUV to tow something, haul a large family cumfortably, or just because you WANT to. It isnt selfish - any more then shoving YOUR values (enviromentalism) off on other people. People will drive - FIRST AND FOREMOST - what they can afford. That is simple economics, not selfishness.</description>
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		<title>By: EJ_San_Fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ_San_Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading this article late, but I can&#039;t resist putting in the last comment.

The CAFE law is an American invention to lower fuel consumption without raising taxes. We don&#039;t want taxes in America, do we? 

Europeans have high fuel taxes and also high and progressive license fees (heavy cars are taxed far higher) and it works very well: Europeans drive small vehicles and take the bus or bicycle far more often than we do. Europeans also do without amenities such as automatic transmissions and airconditioning, not to mention cargo space and towing ability. We wouldn&#039;t like that in America, would we?

The CAFE law is much to the advantage of GM: GM&#039;s average selling price is far higher in the US than in Europe.
So, Lutz advocating fuel taxes over CAFE sounds... disingenuous (I wouldn&#039;t dare to call it stupid).

The only problem with CAFE is that the standards haven&#039;t been raised much over time. A plan to gradually and slowly raise the CAFE standard to, say, 40 MPG in 2020, would be very beneficial to America and give GM lots of time to adapt. Get on board, Lutz!

(Ironically, despite their small cars, Europeans are far ahead in the sports department and generally drive a lot faster than Americans. How about driving in the right lane in stead of the left lane except to pass, America?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m reading this article late, but I can&#8217;t resist putting in the last comment.</p>
<p>The CAFE law is an American invention to lower fuel consumption without raising taxes. We don&#8217;t want taxes in America, do we? </p>
<p>Europeans have high fuel taxes and also high and progressive license fees (heavy cars are taxed far higher) and it works very well: Europeans drive small vehicles and take the bus or bicycle far more often than we do. Europeans also do without amenities such as automatic transmissions and airconditioning, not to mention cargo space and towing ability. We wouldn&#8217;t like that in America, would we?</p>
<p>The CAFE law is much to the advantage of GM: GM&#8217;s average selling price is far higher in the US than in Europe.<br />
So, Lutz advocating fuel taxes over CAFE sounds&#8230; disingenuous (I wouldn&#8217;t dare to call it stupid).</p>
<p>The only problem with CAFE is that the standards haven&#8217;t been raised much over time. A plan to gradually and slowly raise the CAFE standard to, say, 40 MPG in 2020, would be very beneficial to America and give GM lots of time to adapt. Get on board, Lutz!</p>
<p>(Ironically, despite their small cars, Europeans are far ahead in the sports department and generally drive a lot faster than Americans. How about driving in the right lane in stead of the left lane except to pass, America?)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: corvette</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/general-motors-death-watch-105-bob-lutz-screws-the-pooch/comment-page-3/#comment-27985</link>
		<dc:creator>corvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an ex-successful GM dealer that has been reading ttac since the start and I have never commented on the dw series. I have agreed with RF nearly 100% of the time. I think the two central themes of their of their fall will be way too many brands and this ties into way too many dealers. Secondly the upper mamagement needs to be totally replaced, from the board of directors down thru RW and the bs expert Lutz. The dealer and brand thing will be extremely hard and expensive to do, right now some attrition is going on, but these guys are good at survival. We had to be.As for management , Kerkorian owned 10% and he got nowhere, but by a miracle he got out alive.
  As always brilliant writing RF.</description>
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		<title>By: Zarba</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/general-motors-death-watch-105-bob-lutz-screws-the-pooch/comment-page-3/#comment-27928</link>
		<dc:creator>Zarba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey:

Thanks.  Amid all the flame wars around the web, a little courtesy is appreciated.

I enjoy your posts, you always come with game!</description>
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<p>Thanks.  Amid all the flame wars around the web, a little courtesy is appreciated.</p>
<p>I enjoy your posts, you always come with game!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: philipwitak</title>
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		<dc:creator>philipwitak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lutz is nuts! [can i say that?]</description>
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		<title>By: gfen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;How about a Chevrolet GREMLIN? They could saw-off a Malibu, I suppose… 
&lt;/em&gt;

Too late, they already called it the Malibu Maxx. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>How about a Chevrolet GREMLIN? They could saw-off a Malibu, I suppose…<br />
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/general-motors-death-watch-105-bob-lutz-screws-the-pooch/comment-page-3/#comment-27909</link>
		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Steven T: &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;While it is useful to assess the specifics of Lutz&#8217;s actions, I think that a larger question needs to be asked: Can a 74-year-old person &#8211; any person &#8212; save GM?  &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Most large corporations have mandatory retirement rules for a very good reason: It takes adaptability, stamina and mental acuity for an executive to be effective in today&#8217;s tumultuous world. Those qualities are harder to come by as old age sets in.&lt;/em&gt;  A lot of people function very well well into old age. Brian Barru, the progenitor of all of the O&#039;Briens, who lived around the 8th century AD died in battle at age 74. Nobel prize winners Tom Schelling (econ, 2005) and Robert Solow (econ, can&#039;t remember the year), in their early 80s, could probably run circles around a lot of people half their age.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Whether you think he&#039;s a blessing to the country, or a curse, Ted Kennedy is one of the most effective people on Capitol Hill. He&#039;s the same age as Lutz, give or take a year. Jimmy Carter is also remarkably active and productive in his early 80s. Harold Laufman, a noted MD, designed the &quot;hospital&quot; tents for the first Gulf War when he was probably in his upper 70s.  And as for flexibility in old age, I think Nixon&#039;s ability to remake himself into an elder statesman was rather impressive (he died in &#039;94 at 84). So, yes, if anyone can save such a bloated beaurocracy as GM, there are probably 74-plus year olds among them.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p><em>Steven T: </em></p>
<p><em>While it is useful to assess the specifics of Lutz&rsquo;s actions, I think that a larger question needs to be asked: Can a 74-year-old person &ndash; any person &mdash; save GM?  </em></p>
<p><em>Most large corporations have mandatory retirement rules for a very good reason: It takes adaptability, stamina and mental acuity for an executive to be effective in today&rsquo;s tumultuous world. Those qualities are harder to come by as old age sets in.</em>  A lot of people function very well well into old age. Brian Barru, the progenitor of all of the O&#39;Briens, who lived around the 8th century AD died in battle at age 74. Nobel prize winners Tom Schelling (econ, 2005) and Robert Solow (econ, can&#39;t remember the year), in their early 80s, could probably run circles around a lot of people half their age.</p>
<p>Whether you think he&#39;s a blessing to the country, or a curse, Ted Kennedy is one of the most effective people on Capitol Hill. He&#39;s the same age as Lutz, give or take a year. Jimmy Carter is also remarkably active and productive in his early 80s. Harold Laufman, a noted MD, designed the &quot;hospital&quot; tents for the first Gulf War when he was probably in his upper 70s.  And as for flexibility in old age, I think Nixon&#39;s ability to remake himself into an elder statesman was rather impressive (he died in &#39;94 at 84). So, yes, if anyone can save such a bloated beaurocracy as GM, there are probably 74-plus year olds among them.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry Flint is more-or-less saying, General Motors, Ford and DCX are now..... American Motors.  

And we all know how well THAT worked out.  NOT.

See for yourself.  

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Commentary/Flint_Hit_Em_Where_They_Aint.S192.A11378.html

So, DCX has said they&#039;re bringing back the &quot;Hornet&quot; name.  

When can we expect a PACER?  Maybe that should go back to Ford from whence it came anyhow (1958-1959 Edsel Pacer preceded the 1975-1980 AMC Pacer).  

How about a Chevrolet GREMLIN?  They could saw-off a Malibu, I suppose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Jerry Flint is more-or-less saying, General Motors, Ford and DCX are now&#8230;.. American Motors.  </p>
<p>And we all know how well THAT worked out.  NOT.</p>
<p>See for yourself.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Commentary/Flint_Hit_Em_Where_They_Aint.S192.A11378.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Commentary/Flint_Hit_Em_Where_They_Aint.S192.A11378.html</a></p>
<p>So, DCX has said they&#8217;re bringing back the &#8220;Hornet&#8221; name.  </p>
<p>When can we expect a PACER?  Maybe that should go back to Ford from whence it came anyhow (1958-1959 Edsel Pacer preceded the 1975-1980 AMC Pacer).  </p>
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		<title>By: Steven T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HawaiiJim:
It’s true that one can point to individual examples of elderly robustness.  However, that hasn’t stopped many corporations from imposing a mandatory retirement age for its executives.  This represents good corporate governance.

Whether Lutz is still up to the job at 74 is a legitimate question.  This is particularly important given the weird cult of the personality that surrounds him.  Did you see the sycophantic Automotive News piece on him the other day? 

I don’t question that Lutz has some good qualities, e.g., he has displayed decent taste in his styling decisions.  But, as Farago demonstrates, Lutz also embodies some pretty reactionary – and inaccurate – thinking.

Lutz’s continued dominance at GM suggests that the current regime has circled the wagons and is afraid to let in the fresh ideas that could save the company.  I flatly refuse to believe that GM’s management bench is so thin that no one could step into the role of car czar right now and immediately begin to outperform Lutz.

What’s that little man doing behind the curtain?</description>
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It’s true that one can point to individual examples of elderly robustness.  However, that hasn’t stopped many corporations from imposing a mandatory retirement age for its executives.  This represents good corporate governance.</p>
<p>Whether Lutz is still up to the job at 74 is a legitimate question.  This is particularly important given the weird cult of the personality that surrounds him.  Did you see the sycophantic Automotive News piece on him the other day? </p>
<p>I don’t question that Lutz has some good qualities, e.g., he has displayed decent taste in his styling decisions.  But, as Farago demonstrates, Lutz also embodies some pretty reactionary – and inaccurate – thinking.</p>
<p>Lutz’s continued dominance at GM suggests that the current regime has circled the wagons and is afraid to let in the fresh ideas that could save the company.  I flatly refuse to believe that GM’s management bench is so thin that no one could step into the role of car czar right now and immediately begin to outperform Lutz.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the vote of confidence, Wolven, but I&#039;d rather see someone more suited to the job of President than I.  But, I&#039;m flattered!    

How about Ron Paul for President?  Alan Keyes for VP?  Judge Roy Moore for Speaker of the House?  All under a Constitution-Libertarian Party banner (the two parties would need to agree to put aside their differences and merge).</description>
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<p>How about Ron Paul for President?  Alan Keyes for VP?  Judge Roy Moore for Speaker of the House?  All under a Constitution-Libertarian Party banner (the two parties would need to agree to put aside their differences and merge).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZoomZoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZoomZoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So has anybody clicked on the picture accompanying the article?  Noticed the big yellow &quot;RESCUE&quot; sign?

Robert, you sly dog!

Edit:  I just read the caption; it WAS intentional.  Nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->So has anybody clicked on the picture accompanying the article?  Noticed the big yellow &#8220;RESCUE&#8221; sign?</p>
<p>Robert, you sly dog!</p>
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		<title>By: jdizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, rudiger, you must remember that Chrysler&#039;s 4-speed automatic, was, to put it kindly, a smelly, steaming pile of crap in its early years.  I say that as a die-hard Mopar fan.  They had enough trouble keeping it alive in a Caravan; can you imagine the tranny failures a 4-speed Neon might have had?

The Neon was a better car than people think it was.  Once you gave it its mandatory head gasket replacement, it could hold its own in the durability derby.  1st-gen Neons are still an everyday sight here in the Detroit area, but I&#039;ll admit this may be the only place where Neons greatly outnumber Civics.  The 2nd generation was vastly improved, but the damage was done.</description>
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<p>The Neon was a better car than people think it was.  Once you gave it its mandatory head gasket replacement, it could hold its own in the durability derby.  1st-gen Neons are still an everyday sight here in the Detroit area, but I&#8217;ll admit this may be the only place where Neons greatly outnumber Civics.  The 2nd generation was vastly improved, but the damage was done.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;David Holzman: &quot;I will say this for it though: It at least had a little tiny bit of charm–dorky charm, but charm nonetheless. Also, it was at least coherent in its dorkiness. That is, the front and the back looked like they belonged to the same car.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ironically, the Neon&#039;s most notable style feature, the round headlights, were not at the instigation of Lutz but, as the story goes, was one of the last decisions at Chrysler made by his then-boss, Lee Iacocca. Supposedly, the original Neon styling concept drawings had more normal, rectangular shaped headlights. When shown to Iacocca, it was he who insisted that it get the round headlights.

As to the fellow who commented that a small car doesn&#039;t &#039;need&#039; electric rear windows, the point was that if a small car &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; equipped with electric windows (whether necessary or not), all of the windows should be powered. The Neon was the only small car in its class that, when so equipped, the rear windows were manually rolled down.

And as far as the 3-speed automatic in the Neon goes, IIRC, the excuse that Chrysler gave for not having a 4-speed automatic in the Neon was that the limited room in the transmission tunnel would cause a 4-speed automatic to overheat. A somewhat odd rationale, considering that all of the Neon&#039;s competitors managed to get a 4-speed automatic into their transmission tunnels without causing the transmission to overheat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>David Holzman: &#8220;I will say this for it though: It at least had a little tiny bit of charm–dorky charm, but charm nonetheless. Also, it was at least coherent in its dorkiness. That is, the front and the back looked like they belonged to the same car.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Ironically, the Neon&#8217;s most notable style feature, the round headlights, were not at the instigation of Lutz but, as the story goes, was one of the last decisions at Chrysler made by his then-boss, Lee Iacocca. Supposedly, the original Neon styling concept drawings had more normal, rectangular shaped headlights. When shown to Iacocca, it was he who insisted that it get the round headlights.</p>
<p>As to the fellow who commented that a small car doesn&#8217;t &#8216;need&#8217; electric rear windows, the point was that if a small car <i>was</i> equipped with electric windows (whether necessary or not), all of the windows should be powered. The Neon was the only small car in its class that, when so equipped, the rear windows were manually rolled down.</p>
<p>And as far as the 3-speed automatic in the Neon goes, IIRC, the excuse that Chrysler gave for not having a 4-speed automatic in the Neon was that the limited room in the transmission tunnel would cause a 4-speed automatic to overheat. A somewhat odd rationale, considering that all of the Neon&#8217;s competitors managed to get a 4-speed automatic into their transmission tunnels without causing the transmission to overheat.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: HawaiiJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>HawaiiJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Age is not the issue.  There are people who go to college for the first time in their eighties, just as seniors run marathons, climb mountains, start businesses, perform surgery, write their first novel, you name it.</description>
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		<title>By: cheezeweggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheezeweggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the idiot comment.  Quit your crying Lutz.

We currently own a 06 Nissan Altima, which is certainly not a small car.  It has a peppy 2.5l 4-cylynder 175 HP engine and averages 28 MPG in 90% local (non Highway) driving.  This midsize car achives nearly the same economy as my 94 Sentra with a tiny 1.6l engine.

Lutz, you are an idiot.  Now have your lackies design a decent hybrid system for the Silverado and dry your tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I loved the idiot comment.  Quit your crying Lutz.</p>
<p>We currently own a 06 Nissan Altima, which is certainly not a small car.  It has a peppy 2.5l 4-cylynder 175 HP engine and averages 28 MPG in 90% local (non Highway) driving.  This midsize car achives nearly the same economy as my 94 Sentra with a tiny 1.6l engine.</p>
<p>Lutz, you are an idiot.  Now have your lackies design a decent hybrid system for the Silverado and dry your tears.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Wolven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn A for PRESIDENT!  

It truly is too bad most Americans are so ignorant of the princicples and freedom that this country was originally founded on.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is useful to assess the specifics of Lutz’s actions, I think that a larger question needs to be asked:  Can a 74-year-old person – any person -- save GM?

Most large corporations have mandatory retirement rules for a very good reason:  It takes adaptability, stamina and mental acuity for an executive to be effective in today’s tumultuous world.  Those qualities are harder to come by as old age sets in.

Lutz’s rant regarding CAFE once again raises the question of whether he is still up to the job of GM vice chairman and “car czar.”  And because Lutz is so visible, his shakiness undercuts the credibility of GM’s entire management team.  

By continuing to give Lutz so much power and visibility, is GM admitting that its executive succession system has collapsed?

That’s the polite way of putting it.  Perhaps the more blunt question is whether GM suffers from such an advanced case of “fatal conservatism” that it refuses to give younger talent a crack at saving the company.

I suspect that what is going on behind closed doors is a battle between the generations.  Lutz likes to present himself as a reformer, but in important respects he is very much the embodiment of GM’s old guard.  

Why is the old guard clinging so tightly to power when it has displayed so little success in turning GM around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->While it is useful to assess the specifics of Lutz’s actions, I think that a larger question needs to be asked:  Can a 74-year-old person – any person &#8212; save GM?</p>
<p>Most large corporations have mandatory retirement rules for a very good reason:  It takes adaptability, stamina and mental acuity for an executive to be effective in today’s tumultuous world.  Those qualities are harder to come by as old age sets in.</p>
<p>Lutz’s rant regarding CAFE once again raises the question of whether he is still up to the job of GM vice chairman and “car czar.”  And because Lutz is so visible, his shakiness undercuts the credibility of GM’s entire management team.  </p>
<p>By continuing to give Lutz so much power and visibility, is GM admitting that its executive succession system has collapsed?</p>
<p>That’s the polite way of putting it.  Perhaps the more blunt question is whether GM suffers from such an advanced case of “fatal conservatism” that it refuses to give younger talent a crack at saving the company.</p>
<p>I suspect that what is going on behind closed doors is a battle between the generations.  Lutz likes to present himself as a reformer, but in important respects he is very much the embodiment of GM’s old guard.  </p>
<p>Why is the old guard clinging so tightly to power when it has displayed so little success in turning GM around?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Thinking aloud &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bitch slappin&#8217; Bob Lutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinking aloud &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bitch slappin&#8217; Bob Lutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But now&#8230;but now&#8230;it&#8217;s gotten really hot in the kitchen. The Truth About Cars is personally blasting Lutz, in its long-running (and sadly poignant) GM Death Watch over Lutz&#8217;s inchoate rant about CAFE. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ghughes: 
December 28th, 2006 at 6:05 pm 
I say scrap the CAFE BS altogether and let people buy what they want- 

 Well now, isnt that what people are doing? People are buying what THEY want to buy, not what the the big 2.5 want people TO buy.</description>
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December 28th, 2006 at 6:05 pm<br />
I say scrap the CAFE BS altogether and let people buy what they want- </p>
<p> Well now, isnt that what people are doing? People are buying what THEY want to buy, not what the the big 2.5 want people TO buy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;thx_zetec: 
I think Neon was under-rated.
The styling was good. No - not “drop dead gorgeous” but distinctive, functional without being bizare. I think one of the most under-rated designs. &lt;/em&gt;I 

I beg to differ. The Neon was a very dorky looking car until very late in its short life. &quot;Hi.&quot; 

I will say this for it though: It at least had a little tiny bit of charm--dorky charm, but charm nonetheless. Also, it was at least coherent in its dorkiness. That is, the front and the back looked like they belonged to the same car. The Caliber is ugly, and looks as if assembled from pieces plucked randomly from the styling bin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>thx_zetec:<br />
I think Neon was under-rated.<br />
The styling was good. No &#8211; not “drop dead gorgeous” but distinctive, functional without being bizare. I think one of the most under-rated designs. </em>I </p>
<p>I beg to differ. The Neon was a very dorky looking car until very late in its short life. &#8220;Hi.&#8221; </p>
<p>I will say this for it though: It at least had a little tiny bit of charm&#8211;dorky charm, but charm nonetheless. Also, it was at least coherent in its dorkiness. That is, the front and the back looked like they belonged to the same car. The Caliber is ugly, and looks as if assembled from pieces plucked randomly from the styling bin.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ghughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say scrap the CAFE BS altogether and let people buy what they want- the heavily subsidized and protected japanese manufs will always be ahead of us on small cars, bec. thats what their market is. Lutz isnt an idiot-but I like the way you guys harsh on GM and their products, something surely(?) will wake them up from their nap? - Losing 100s of thousands of jobs and share hasnt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I say scrap the CAFE BS altogether and let people buy what they want- the heavily subsidized and protected japanese manufs will always be ahead of us on small cars, bec. thats what their market is. Lutz isnt an idiot-but I like the way you guys harsh on GM and their products, something surely(?) will wake them up from their nap? &#8211; Losing 100s of thousands of jobs and share hasnt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZARBA
Your original post did not specify SUVs.I think of GMT900 as the full size ex.cab and crew cab GMC/Chev pick up that are doing quite well.
Thank you for pointing that out and I stand corrected</description>
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Your original post did not specify SUVs.I think of GMT900 as the full size ex.cab and crew cab GMC/Chev pick up that are doing quite well.<br />
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		<title>By: Zarba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey:

&quot;With the sales of the new GMT900 platform SUV&#039;s still strong, GM is looking ahead to assure that future inventory doesn&#039;t overrun demand as it has in the recent past. The company announced today that it will be reducing production in three plants that produce the GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade, and Chevrolet Tahoe from 56.5 vehicles per hour to a nice even 50. The plants will remain closed for the first half of January, extending the normal 1-week holiday shutdown to three, and then resume production at the reduced rate. 

GM expects some staffing adjustments to occur, but has not yet determined how the slow down will affect employees at each assembly plant, which are located in Janesville, WI, Arlington, TX, and Silao, Mexico. 


[Source: Automotive News]&quot;

By my calculation, that means an hourly production cut of 11.5%, and extending the shutdown by two weeks means an effective production cut of 3.8% on top of the hourly slowdown.

or maybe GM doesn&#039;t tell you what they tell Automotive News...</description>
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<p>&#8220;With the sales of the new GMT900 platform SUV&#8217;s still strong, GM is looking ahead to assure that future inventory doesn&#8217;t overrun demand as it has in the recent past. The company announced today that it will be reducing production in three plants that produce the GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade, and Chevrolet Tahoe from 56.5 vehicles per hour to a nice even 50. The plants will remain closed for the first half of January, extending the normal 1-week holiday shutdown to three, and then resume production at the reduced rate. </p>
<p>GM expects some staffing adjustments to occur, but has not yet determined how the slow down will affect employees at each assembly plant, which are located in Janesville, WI, Arlington, TX, and Silao, Mexico. </p>
<p>[Source: Automotive News]&#8221;</p>
<p>By my calculation, that means an hourly production cut of 11.5%, and extending the shutdown by two weeks means an effective production cut of 3.8% on top of the hourly slowdown.</p>
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		<title>By: son of Bob Lutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>son of Bob Lutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the answer to my earlier post on this page:

href=&quot;http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/fe.php&quot;&gt;

In short, NHTSA maintains CAFE figures that aren&#039;t necessarily (read: are not) related to EPA mileage estimates.  As such, new EPA mileage numbers will not lead to increased fuel economy.

If anyone who reads this post is paid to find ways to trim the federal budget, this may be a good place to start.

...How about that...I&#039;ve gone from optimist to cynic in only two posts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I found the answer to my earlier post on this page:</p>
<p>href=&#8221;http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/fe.php&#8221;&gt;</p>
<p>In short, NHTSA maintains CAFE figures that aren&#8217;t necessarily (read: are not) related to EPA mileage estimates.  As such, new EPA mileage numbers will not lead to increased fuel economy.</p>
<p>If anyone who reads this post is paid to find ways to trim the federal budget, this may be a good place to start.</p>
<p>&#8230;How about that&#8230;I&#8217;ve gone from optimist to cynic in only two posts&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wine bottle michelin ad is amusing. Go Bibendum!!!</description>
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