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		<title>By: merlynbrit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just bought a leftover &#039;08 for 11 grand (my second focus actually).  what the heck else are you going to buy new for that price?  cheap to buy, cheap to run, and proven reliability merit a test drive.</description>
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		<title>By: Sometimes I miss the old country. &#171; The Cat Herder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sometimes I miss the old country. &#171; The Cat Herder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the US, we get this. Europe gets this instead despite gas being $10 a gallon, bad traffic and vehemently anti-car [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Babygus15</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-434921</link>
		<dc:creator>Babygus15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but notice that pretty much to the person, every single horrible review is from people who don;t own the car.  They just eat what the articles reviewer says and regurgetate it, pretty much verbatum.  On the flip side, all the people posting who own the car seem to really like it, you might argue that they have a biased opinion and are trying to defend their choice.  But then again, the people who have rented one also seem to like it.  They all seem to say the same thing &quot;Nothing special, but it gets great fuel economy and got us where we needed to go.&quot;

Lets disabuse those of you who don&#039;t own one of a few notions: its not sexy, its not fast, it won&#039;t turn heads.

That said, and if you haven&#039;t guessed already...I own a 2008 2 door Focus SES.  I test drove a civic, mazda3,Pontiac G5, Cobalt and Elantra.

I drive 160 miles roundtrip to work 3 days a week, I am also 6&#039;7&quot;.  I was looking for a pure commuter car.  I eliminated the two best cars in this class immediately: the civic and mazda3 because they could not get their cars down into the $14k and $15k range. I really liked the Elantra SE(it has ECS --AKA greatest safety invention since seatbelt)but I am 6&#039;7&quot; and just wasnt comfortable.

You want a true POS try the G5 or Cobalt.  I knew something was amiss when the Pontiac dealer came down to $11,900 on the automatic G5 to keep me on the lot.

So I got the Focus, and I also paid an extra $1300 and got 100k mile BUMBER TO BUMPER warranty, because I drive about 22k miles a year. 

I average 35 mpg on the freeway to and from work, its got sync, which really is pretty cool. The ride and handling is fine and just like the people who rented it said &quot;It gets me where I need to go&quot;.  

To all the people slamming this car and don&#039;t own one and can&#039;t understand why someone would buy one:  ITS A GOOD COMMUTER CAR AT A VERY GOOD PRICE--GET OVER IT.

The one weird thing is I like the exterior styling.  Hope that doesnt invalidate everything else Iv said.  Of course I think the Inifinit FX and Scion XB and Nissan Murano et all look insanely stupid. SO if you like those, then obviously we difer in what is aesthetivally appealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I can&#8217;t help but notice that pretty much to the person, every single horrible review is from people who don;t own the car.  They just eat what the articles reviewer says and regurgetate it, pretty much verbatum.  On the flip side, all the people posting who own the car seem to really like it, you might argue that they have a biased opinion and are trying to defend their choice.  But then again, the people who have rented one also seem to like it.  They all seem to say the same thing &#8220;Nothing special, but it gets great fuel economy and got us where we needed to go.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets disabuse those of you who don&#8217;t own one of a few notions: its not sexy, its not fast, it won&#8217;t turn heads.</p>
<p>That said, and if you haven&#8217;t guessed already&#8230;I own a 2008 2 door Focus SES.  I test drove a civic, mazda3,Pontiac G5, Cobalt and Elantra.</p>
<p>I drive 160 miles roundtrip to work 3 days a week, I am also 6&#8242;7&#8243;.  I was looking for a pure commuter car.  I eliminated the two best cars in this class immediately: the civic and mazda3 because they could not get their cars down into the $14k and $15k range. I really liked the Elantra SE(it has ECS &#8211;AKA greatest safety invention since seatbelt)but I am 6&#8242;7&#8243; and just wasnt comfortable.</p>
<p>You want a true POS try the G5 or Cobalt.  I knew something was amiss when the Pontiac dealer came down to $11,900 on the automatic G5 to keep me on the lot.</p>
<p>So I got the Focus, and I also paid an extra $1300 and got 100k mile BUMBER TO BUMPER warranty, because I drive about 22k miles a year. </p>
<p>I average 35 mpg on the freeway to and from work, its got sync, which really is pretty cool. The ride and handling is fine and just like the people who rented it said &#8220;It gets me where I need to go&#8221;.  </p>
<p>To all the people slamming this car and don&#8217;t own one and can&#8217;t understand why someone would buy one:  ITS A GOOD COMMUTER CAR AT A VERY GOOD PRICE&#8211;GET OVER IT.</p>
<p>The one weird thing is I like the exterior styling.  Hope that doesnt invalidate everything else Iv said.  Of course I think the Inifinit FX and Scion XB and Nissan Murano et all look insanely stupid. SO if you like those, then obviously we difer in what is aesthetivally appealing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: The Luigiian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-415292</link>
		<dc:creator>The Luigiian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 08:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I haven’t read all the comments - someone may have already brought it up - but if the American people are wondering why they were fed this POS,they should look in the mirror.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes they should. Americans believe that compact cars should be fuel efficient, small and lightweight, and the current Focus is as fuel efficient, small and lightweight as they can get it. It gets around 28 mpg @145 hp. By contrast, the Mazda3 gets 26. That&#039;s around a $150 per year difference. Plus, the Focus is $2000 cheaper.

&lt;i&gt;Up here in Canada the Focus was quite popular, in particular the wagon and hatchback models, but stateside these models have been demonized for reasons I cannot begin to understand.&lt;/i&gt;

I think that station wagons and hatchbacks are ugly. I think most Americans dislike them for pretty much that reason, which is why so many like compact SUVs. If you can build Americans a hatchback that does not have a curvy front and abruptly cut off rear end like the old Focus had (looks bizarre) more Americans will buy it.

&lt;i&gt;We know Americans like big sedans, soft suspension and slushboxes for tranny’s, and gas engines only please, the Focus is a direct result of this line of thinking. This thing is the Ford Tempo of its time.&lt;/i&gt;

The Mazda3 everybody wants is bigger. If Ford were out to Americanize the Focus, it would have went for the slightly larger and heavier Euro Focus design. We prefer automatics because we don&#039;t want to row a manual tranny. Gas engines are preferred because diesel costs 40 cents a gallon more than gas in the United States. Bring diesel to premium gas level pricing and many more Americans will gladly buy a more fuel efficient diesel car.

&lt;i&gt;And Canada is too small a market to justify the exporting the Euro model so we’re force fed what the average American wants. Don’t get me wrong nice people, nice country but when it comes to cars sometimes they’re not all there.&lt;/i&gt;

Americans have their own taste in cars, just as they have their own taste in everything, but everyone agrees that the current Focus is ugly. The styling isn&#039;t what the average American wants, this Focus was kept because it has better fuel economy, is smaller and is cheaper than the Euro Focus it was to be replaced by.

Also: You guys are getting the Fiesta along with us come 2010, along with hatch and Euro styling.

I saw a Focus at our local Ford dealer and was impressed. It&#039;s a completely different car in person than it appears in photographs. I&#039;m seriously considering buying a coupe for the fuel economy, and because the Focus coupe has the most rear seat room of any coupes on the market. It may seem silly to buy a two-door car and demand good rear seat room, but I tend to have strange tastes. I always liked the old Focus but wanted a 2-door version. I never liked the hatch. I guess I might just get it, even if the car it comes with is somewhat ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>I haven’t read all the comments &#8211; someone may have already brought it up &#8211; but if the American people are wondering why they were fed this POS,they should look in the mirror.</i></p>
<p>Yes they should. Americans believe that compact cars should be fuel efficient, small and lightweight, and the current Focus is as fuel efficient, small and lightweight as they can get it. It gets around 28 mpg @145 hp. By contrast, the Mazda3 gets 26. That&#8217;s around a $150 per year difference. Plus, the Focus is $2000 cheaper.</p>
<p><i>Up here in Canada the Focus was quite popular, in particular the wagon and hatchback models, but stateside these models have been demonized for reasons I cannot begin to understand.</i></p>
<p>I think that station wagons and hatchbacks are ugly. I think most Americans dislike them for pretty much that reason, which is why so many like compact SUVs. If you can build Americans a hatchback that does not have a curvy front and abruptly cut off rear end like the old Focus had (looks bizarre) more Americans will buy it.</p>
<p><i>We know Americans like big sedans, soft suspension and slushboxes for tranny’s, and gas engines only please, the Focus is a direct result of this line of thinking. This thing is the Ford Tempo of its time.</i></p>
<p>The Mazda3 everybody wants is bigger. If Ford were out to Americanize the Focus, it would have went for the slightly larger and heavier Euro Focus design. We prefer automatics because we don&#8217;t want to row a manual tranny. Gas engines are preferred because diesel costs 40 cents a gallon more than gas in the United States. Bring diesel to premium gas level pricing and many more Americans will gladly buy a more fuel efficient diesel car.</p>
<p><i>And Canada is too small a market to justify the exporting the Euro model so we’re force fed what the average American wants. Don’t get me wrong nice people, nice country but when it comes to cars sometimes they’re not all there.</i></p>
<p>Americans have their own taste in cars, just as they have their own taste in everything, but everyone agrees that the current Focus is ugly. The styling isn&#8217;t what the average American wants, this Focus was kept because it has better fuel economy, is smaller and is cheaper than the Euro Focus it was to be replaced by.</p>
<p>Also: You guys are getting the Fiesta along with us come 2010, along with hatch and Euro styling.</p>
<p>I saw a Focus at our local Ford dealer and was impressed. It&#8217;s a completely different car in person than it appears in photographs. I&#8217;m seriously considering buying a coupe for the fuel economy, and because the Focus coupe has the most rear seat room of any coupes on the market. It may seem silly to buy a two-door car and demand good rear seat room, but I tend to have strange tastes. I always liked the old Focus but wanted a 2-door version. I never liked the hatch. I guess I might just get it, even if the car it comes with is somewhat ugly.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kazoomaloo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-357222</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spent a week in Maui with a little silver Focus, and I have to admit that it seemed a decent little car.  I still stand by the fact that it&#039;s ugly, way ugly, Aztek ugly, but it did the job it was meant to do, and the gas mileage info (you can call up the lifetime mpg in a little information box in the gauge array) stated it was returning 29.5 mpg.  That&#039;s pretty impressive given the driving conditions in Maui, no long freeway rides or anything, lots of stop and go and mountain driving.

Also the active MPG meter (another option on the gauge array) was super nifty and made me really try to keep the bars at maximum.  All told, I liked the car and it got my wife and I where we needed to go (and the A/C worked great) so I hereby rescind my bafflement as to why someone would buy this car.  It&#039;s decent for what it is, but it&#039;s clear that the Focus isn&#039;t trying to be anything other than cheap.</description>
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<p>Also the active MPG meter (another option on the gauge array) was super nifty and made me really try to keep the bars at maximum.  All told, I liked the car and it got my wife and I where we needed to go (and the A/C worked great) so I hereby rescind my bafflement as to why someone would buy this car.  It&#8217;s decent for what it is, but it&#8217;s clear that the Focus isn&#8217;t trying to be anything other than cheap.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cooz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-337062</link>
		<dc:creator>cooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Becomethemedia, I just read your comment.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You know, we are so called &#8220;Force Fed&#8221; with this car as well, but it seems that we like this car just the way it is. Take a look at the reviews. These reviews are from people who actually own one and I&#8217;m talking about the &#8220;2008 Ford Focus&#8221;. The reason for all the positive reviews is because &#8220;WE&#8221; know a high quality Inexpensive vehicle when we see it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Becomethemedia, I just read your comment.</p>
<p>You know, we are so called &ldquo;Force Fed&rdquo; with this car as well, but it seems that we like this car just the way it is. Take a look at the reviews. These reviews are from people who actually own one and I&rsquo;m talking about the &ldquo;2008 Ford Focus&rdquo;. The reason for all the positive reviews is because &ldquo;WE&rdquo; know a high quality Inexpensive vehicle when we see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Becomethemedia</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-299872</link>
		<dc:creator>Becomethemedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read all the comments - someone may have already brought it up - but if the American people are wondering why they were fed this POS,they should look in the mirror. 
Up here in Canada the Focus was quite popular, in particular the wagon and hatchback models, but stateside these models have been demonized for reasons I cannot begin to understand.
We know Americans like big sedans, soft suspension and slushboxes for tranny&#039;s, and gas engines only please, the Focus is a direct result of this line of thinking.This thing is the Ford Tempo of its time.
And Canada is too small a market to justify the exporting the Euro model so we&#039;re force fed what the average American wants. Don&#039;t get me wrong nice people, nice country but when it comes to cars sometimes they&#039;re not all there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I haven&#8217;t read all the comments &#8211; someone may have already brought it up &#8211; but if the American people are wondering why they were fed this POS,they should look in the mirror.<br />
Up here in Canada the Focus was quite popular, in particular the wagon and hatchback models, but stateside these models have been demonized for reasons I cannot begin to understand.<br />
We know Americans like big sedans, soft suspension and slushboxes for tranny&#8217;s, and gas engines only please, the Focus is a direct result of this line of thinking.This thing is the Ford Tempo of its time.<br />
And Canada is too small a market to justify the exporting the Euro model so we&#8217;re force fed what the average American wants. Don&#8217;t get me wrong nice people, nice country but when it comes to cars sometimes they&#8217;re not all there.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rower30</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? The Sebring is a $25,000-$32,000 car.  I have a $50,00 Mercedes E320 and I like it better than a 425,000 Sebring. But so? The comparison isn&#039;t valid. Align the price points, please. Try something around $16,000-$17,000 well equipped to the Focus. 

The point is, you have to spend a LOT more to get this kind of value and equipment level outside of the Ford Focus. This car isn&#039;t a special interest car like the Mazda 3 (zoom zoom and expensive), Honda Civic (fit and finish that you pay even more dearly for), Toyota Corolla (what interest, and it still is expensive) or Korean models (low price with awfull driving dynamics). The Focus is a well rounded ECONOMY car with above average driving dynamics. And, it does this very well.</description>
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<p>The point is, you have to spend a LOT more to get this kind of value and equipment level outside of the Ford Focus. This car isn&#8217;t a special interest car like the Mazda 3 (zoom zoom and expensive), Honda Civic (fit and finish that you pay even more dearly for), Toyota Corolla (what interest, and it still is expensive) or Korean models (low price with awfull driving dynamics). The Focus is a well rounded ECONOMY car with above average driving dynamics. And, it does this very well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ekulwyo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People always talk about the Sebring being unattractive-I think the Sebring is a Lexus quality car compared to the Focus.  Interior sucks harder than the Sebring ever could, and the exterior, at least of the 2-door, is ten times worse.  Damn, I just hate this car.</description>
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		<title>By: rower30</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I understand the comments on the Focus engine. It has the second highest HP in the class with the best torque at the lowest RPM to boot. And, this engine is sweet where you use it, with addressable midrange power the others only dreams of. For a small engine, the compromise of power and handling of this powerplant are excellent. And, the power characteristics of the Focus 2.0L engine pull an automatic like no other small engine I&#039;ve driven. Granted, the stick is the best with a smaller engine.

This engine is easy to service, too. No cam belt to add $1,000.00 replacement bills (it&#039;s a chain) and the oil filter and drain plug are right under the front of the engine. Oil goes right in the drain pan, not all over the car. 

Only the Mazda is faster, and it is a high RPM hyper fest, too, and not much to my liking. All that tuning for just 8 more HP isn&#039;t worth it. 

By the way, that engine wire &quot;tape&quot; is tough as hell. I have it in my 1992 sixteen year old Ranger, and it looks the same as day one. Now, if it is suppoosed to protect and hold wires together, where&#039;s the beef? Fiberglass textile is excellent material in an engine compartment. What you all don&#039;t understand, is that PVC and TPE soft tough material outgas all the light weight oils that make them pliable and soft, over time. Then, they crack and get hard. Ethylene based plastic (PE, HDPE, LLDPE ETC)may feel more waxy, but it will stay that way for the life of YOU. Not to mention it is FAR easier to clean since it doesn&#039;t pick up stains as badly. I&#039;ll take harder PVC and Ethylene materials anyday.

The Focus has a ride that feels like a bigger more secure car. Say, a BMW. It is good handling and quiet at the same time. No, it isn&#039;t as hard as the Mazda or Civic (thank God), nor does it have the pure chassis of a sports car. Besides, why would Ford build another Mazda 3? They have one already, go get the Mazda 3 sedan or hatch and ZOOM, ZOOM. Must all the rest of us suffer adolescent urges just to be in a smaller car?

If you compare this car comparably equipped, it is an amazing deal. I drove everything out there, and this car was clearly better than the rest as a daily driver And, several thousand dollars less, too. My sixteen year old Ranger is still running like new confirming Ford&#039;s reliability, and my 1999 E320 MB is going to be VERY jealous of this car.

The Europeans? The Saturn Astra is poorly matched to its 1.8 liter engine and transmission. Too little torque, even though it is at a commendably low RPM. With an automatic the drive train makes this car feel heavy and lethargic. Where is the so called European superiority here? Drive an Astra back to back with the Focus, each with an auto and see for yourself. The stick is even harsher on the Astra. The Focus will muscle away every time in town.

VW? The five cylinder engine is harsh and noisey. And, you pay like heck for it, too. May as well go mid sized as the mileage is awful. This is a great interior effort, though. But the car is oddly placed for size, cost and economy. Its NVH is off the scale for the mid sized class (where it is in price).

The Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla have the same fate. Too expensive to really compare comparably equipped. For $3,000.00 higher and more they better seem better somewhere! The Corolla really is as dull as last weeks razor blade, even thiough it might look sharp. The Honda is what the Prelude once was, a parts bin of new tech look engineering but pushed onto the masses this time. I don&#039;t need to have a big old tach when I can feel what the car&#039;s engine is telling me. What I do need is an easy way to discern speed at a side glance rowing through the gears in this small rev happy engine. What do you get? A  small digital speedometer placed two feet farther out in front of you that you have to &quot;read&quot;. Hint, a big speedometer, please. As a matter of fact, you can drive a good stick with no tach at all if you pay attention to your car. Of course, this is a Honda so we hear nothing of this car&#039;s silly season instrumentation. 

Back to the Focus. Sync? Well, I forgot to memorize all my song names and artists. So, I won&#039;t be talking too much to my car. But, I will load up a nice big thumb drive and plug it in and leave the CD&#039;s behind. I never have been so lame in planning as to have to call anybody from my car, so that&#039;s out, too. But it does recognize speech very well.

We liked the car so well we bought two of them, a stick (me) and the Auto (my wife). For the money, with such a thought out chassis and drive train, I don&#039;t know how you could go too wrong. I think that if this car had any other name plate on it than Ford, it would be heralded as a breakthrough product for overall composure and refinement. What&#039;s wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m not sure I understand the comments on the Focus engine. It has the second highest HP in the class with the best torque at the lowest RPM to boot. And, this engine is sweet where you use it, with addressable midrange power the others only dreams of. For a small engine, the compromise of power and handling of this powerplant are excellent. And, the power characteristics of the Focus 2.0L engine pull an automatic like no other small engine I&#8217;ve driven. Granted, the stick is the best with a smaller engine.</p>
<p>This engine is easy to service, too. No cam belt to add $1,000.00 replacement bills (it&#8217;s a chain) and the oil filter and drain plug are right under the front of the engine. Oil goes right in the drain pan, not all over the car. </p>
<p>Only the Mazda is faster, and it is a high RPM hyper fest, too, and not much to my liking. All that tuning for just 8 more HP isn&#8217;t worth it. </p>
<p>By the way, that engine wire &#8220;tape&#8221; is tough as hell. I have it in my 1992 sixteen year old Ranger, and it looks the same as day one. Now, if it is suppoosed to protect and hold wires together, where&#8217;s the beef? Fiberglass textile is excellent material in an engine compartment. What you all don&#8217;t understand, is that PVC and TPE soft tough material outgas all the light weight oils that make them pliable and soft, over time. Then, they crack and get hard. Ethylene based plastic (PE, HDPE, LLDPE ETC)may feel more waxy, but it will stay that way for the life of YOU. Not to mention it is FAR easier to clean since it doesn&#8217;t pick up stains as badly. I&#8217;ll take harder PVC and Ethylene materials anyday.</p>
<p>The Focus has a ride that feels like a bigger more secure car. Say, a BMW. It is good handling and quiet at the same time. No, it isn&#8217;t as hard as the Mazda or Civic (thank God), nor does it have the pure chassis of a sports car. Besides, why would Ford build another Mazda 3? They have one already, go get the Mazda 3 sedan or hatch and ZOOM, ZOOM. Must all the rest of us suffer adolescent urges just to be in a smaller car?</p>
<p>If you compare this car comparably equipped, it is an amazing deal. I drove everything out there, and this car was clearly better than the rest as a daily driver And, several thousand dollars less, too. My sixteen year old Ranger is still running like new confirming Ford&#8217;s reliability, and my 1999 E320 MB is going to be VERY jealous of this car.</p>
<p>The Europeans? The Saturn Astra is poorly matched to its 1.8 liter engine and transmission. Too little torque, even though it is at a commendably low RPM. With an automatic the drive train makes this car feel heavy and lethargic. Where is the so called European superiority here? Drive an Astra back to back with the Focus, each with an auto and see for yourself. The stick is even harsher on the Astra. The Focus will muscle away every time in town.</p>
<p>VW? The five cylinder engine is harsh and noisey. And, you pay like heck for it, too. May as well go mid sized as the mileage is awful. This is a great interior effort, though. But the car is oddly placed for size, cost and economy. Its NVH is off the scale for the mid sized class (where it is in price).</p>
<p>The Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla have the same fate. Too expensive to really compare comparably equipped. For $3,000.00 higher and more they better seem better somewhere! The Corolla really is as dull as last weeks razor blade, even thiough it might look sharp. The Honda is what the Prelude once was, a parts bin of new tech look engineering but pushed onto the masses this time. I don&#8217;t need to have a big old tach when I can feel what the car&#8217;s engine is telling me. What I do need is an easy way to discern speed at a side glance rowing through the gears in this small rev happy engine. What do you get? A  small digital speedometer placed two feet farther out in front of you that you have to &#8220;read&#8221;. Hint, a big speedometer, please. As a matter of fact, you can drive a good stick with no tach at all if you pay attention to your car. Of course, this is a Honda so we hear nothing of this car&#8217;s silly season instrumentation. </p>
<p>Back to the Focus. Sync? Well, I forgot to memorize all my song names and artists. So, I won&#8217;t be talking too much to my car. But, I will load up a nice big thumb drive and plug it in and leave the CD&#8217;s behind. I never have been so lame in planning as to have to call anybody from my car, so that&#8217;s out, too. But it does recognize speech very well.</p>
<p>We liked the car so well we bought two of them, a stick (me) and the Auto (my wife). For the money, with such a thought out chassis and drive train, I don&#8217;t know how you could go too wrong. I think that if this car had any other name plate on it than Ford, it would be heralded as a breakthrough product for overall composure and refinement. What&#8217;s wrong with that?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cooz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-274282</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Binker. I own a 2008 focus as well and can honestly say that this car rides more like a midsize sedan. My brother&#039;s each own Honda&#039;s...A 2008 Civic and a 2008 CRV and my car rides quieter and just better overall. For all the clueless people that have posted on this site, here&#039;s some reviews from people that actually OWN this vehicle!!

http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_focus-reviews_user/

http://autos.msn.com/research/userreviews/reviewlist.aspx?modelid=12750

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/2008/consumerreview.html

http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/2008-ford-focus-is-a-hit-with-online-consumers-41441.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I totally agree with Binker. I own a 2008 focus as well and can honestly say that this car rides more like a midsize sedan. My brother&#8217;s each own Honda&#8217;s&#8230;A 2008 Civic and a 2008 CRV and my car rides quieter and just better overall. For all the clueless people that have posted on this site, here&#8217;s some reviews from people that actually OWN this vehicle!!</p>
<p><a href="http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_focus-reviews_user/" rel="nofollow">http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_focus-reviews_user/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://autos.msn.com/research/userreviews/reviewlist.aspx?modelid=12750" rel="nofollow">http://autos.msn.com/research/userreviews/reviewlist.aspx?modelid=12750</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/2008/consumerreview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/2008/consumerreview.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/2008-ford-focus-is-a-hit-with-online-consumers-41441.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/2008-ford-focus-is-a-hit-with-online-consumers-41441.php</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: binker</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-269332</link>
		<dc:creator>binker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your review of the 08 Focus and member comments, I must say there are a lot of really angry people out there. I have had my Focus for about a month now. I’ve put just under 4k miles on it. My review is as follows:  I do a lot of highway driving. I am considered an extreme commuter as I drive 70 miles one way to work. I purchased my Focus because I need the great gas mileage. Because of the price of gas, I keep the cruise control set to 65 and I am getting just under 40 mpg with my automatic 4dr SES.  I have no problems with passing though I don’t pass many as everyone seems to be driving 65 now adays. This car handles so much nicer than the 01 Gr. Am that died on me.  Great visibility, quiet ride and a comfortable seat.  I love the Sync. Its no problem to receive a call or make a call.  The rear seating is kind of small but I didn’t by this car to drive my family around.  As for the looks, I think it looks pretty cool. I don’t really see a big difference with other cars in its class. They all look pretty much the same to me. I don’t think it looks cheap or poorly made.  I have had a few people comment that they liked the look. My teenage kids love the ambient lighting. I know when I bought this car that I wasn’t buying a Lexus. I was buying a car that had a few bells and whistles and was economic to drive. That’s what I got.  I’m very happy with it. So all you manic depressed, expect everything to be perfect posters should take a chill pill and relax. It’s not as bad as you make it out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->After reading your review of the 08 Focus and member comments, I must say there are a lot of really angry people out there. I have had my Focus for about a month now. I’ve put just under 4k miles on it. My review is as follows:  I do a lot of highway driving. I am considered an extreme commuter as I drive 70 miles one way to work. I purchased my Focus because I need the great gas mileage. Because of the price of gas, I keep the cruise control set to 65 and I am getting just under 40 mpg with my automatic 4dr SES.  I have no problems with passing though I don’t pass many as everyone seems to be driving 65 now adays. This car handles so much nicer than the 01 Gr. Am that died on me.  Great visibility, quiet ride and a comfortable seat.  I love the Sync. Its no problem to receive a call or make a call.  The rear seating is kind of small but I didn’t by this car to drive my family around.  As for the looks, I think it looks pretty cool. I don’t really see a big difference with other cars in its class. They all look pretty much the same to me. I don’t think it looks cheap or poorly made.  I have had a few people comment that they liked the look. My teenage kids love the ambient lighting. I know when I bought this car that I wasn’t buying a Lexus. I was buying a car that had a few bells and whistles and was economic to drive. That’s what I got.  I’m very happy with it. So all you manic depressed, expect everything to be perfect posters should take a chill pill and relax. It’s not as bad as you make it out to be.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: limmin</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-190542</link>
		<dc:creator>limmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my research of this car, I must disagree with this review. I&#039;ve read dozens of user reviews and they&#039;re all flattering. Owners especially love the new interior and the incredible mileage.

Reviewer is correct about the excess wiring in the engine bay. The Ford 2.3L has the same problem, I&#039;ve noticed. (By contrast, the GM ecotec4 is wire-free in the bay.)

This new Focus should have been a Mazda3 clone. As usual, Ford took the easy way out. But not necessarily a bad way out....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Based on my research of this car, I must disagree with this review. I&#8217;ve read dozens of user reviews and they&#8217;re all flattering. Owners especially love the new interior and the incredible mileage.</p>
<p>Reviewer is correct about the excess wiring in the engine bay. The Ford 2.3L has the same problem, I&#8217;ve noticed. (By contrast, the GM ecotec4 is wire-free in the bay.)</p>
<p>This new Focus should have been a Mazda3 clone. As usual, Ford took the easy way out. But not necessarily a bad way out&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: sardini</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-86750</link>
		<dc:creator>sardini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new focus is a BIG disappointment.  Just what nobody wanted another pricepoint entry level sedan... boriing.

Why didn&#039;t Ford bring in the European model????? It&#039;s friggin beautiful compared with anything on the roads here in North America!!!  

To go away from a hatchback is a big step backward too.  

It&#039;s too bad because I sure would&#039;ve bought one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The new focus is a BIG disappointment.  Just what nobody wanted another pricepoint entry level sedan&#8230; boriing.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t Ford bring in the European model????? It&#8217;s friggin beautiful compared with anything on the roads here in North America!!!  </p>
<p>To go away from a hatchback is a big step backward too.  </p>
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		<title>By: tomaxhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-86222</link>
		<dc:creator>tomaxhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally saw this car driving down the road.  It was a 2-door model with what looked like basic trim level.  My impression:  really cheap looking. It appears like one could dent a body panel with a firm finger push.  I never trust a car with too-skinny factory rubber either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I finally saw this car driving down the road.  It was a 2-door model with what looked like basic trim level.  My impression:  really cheap looking. It appears like one could dent a body panel with a firm finger push.  I never trust a car with too-skinny factory rubber either.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: threeer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-85286</link>
		<dc:creator>threeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAAAAAUUUGGGGHHHH...my eyes!!  They&#039;re burning!  My God, what is causing this immense pain?  ...wait...wait a minute...off in the distance, that blob of metal and plastic, it&#039;s searing my retinas!  It&#039;s...it&#039;s...the new Ford Focus...can&#039;t...stare...too...long...may...cause...permanent...damage...

There should be a warning label on each new Focus to keep people from looking directly at it when driving.  Jeez, what in the world was Ford thinking?  Oh, wait a minute...they WEREN&#039;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->AAAAAAUUUGGGGHHHH&#8230;my eyes!!  They&#8217;re burning!  My God, what is causing this immense pain?  &#8230;wait&#8230;wait a minute&#8230;off in the distance, that blob of metal and plastic, it&#8217;s searing my retinas!  It&#8217;s&#8230;it&#8217;s&#8230;the new Ford Focus&#8230;can&#8217;t&#8230;stare&#8230;too&#8230;long&#8230;may&#8230;cause&#8230;permanent&#8230;damage&#8230;</p>
<p>There should be a warning label on each new Focus to keep people from looking directly at it when driving.  Jeez, what in the world was Ford thinking?  Oh, wait a minute&#8230;they WEREN&#8217;T.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jcp2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-83882</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to see more of the new Foci on the roads around me. Aside from the fake silver vent behind the front wheels, which I think should be removed, they don&#039;t look as horrible as the article makes them out to be. The double bladed grill with the slanted headlights seem to channel a vibe similar to the Honda Civic.</description>
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		<title>By: jeremy5000</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-83242</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy5000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s worse is the Focus seems to cost more than a Civic in Canada. Even if it comes with more standard options I don&#039;t care, who would even consider this over a brand new, cheaper, better made, better looking, more modern Honda? Redesigning the same car twice, no, bad Ford. This is the new Cavalier/Sunfire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What&#8217;s worse is the Focus seems to cost more than a Civic in Canada. Even if it comes with more standard options I don&#8217;t care, who would even consider this over a brand new, cheaper, better made, better looking, more modern Honda? Redesigning the same car twice, no, bad Ford. This is the new Cavalier/Sunfire.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quattrolife</title>
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		<dc:creator>quattrolife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The D3 with their blame-culture seem to excel at producing excuses more than excellent vehicles.&lt;/em&gt;

Spot on. The Euro Focus is such an excellent car, but the American version is simply that, an excuse on wheels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The D3 with their blame-culture seem to excel at producing excuses more than excellent vehicles.</em></p>
<p>Spot on. The Euro Focus is such an excellent car, but the American version is simply that, an excuse on wheels.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quattrolife</title>
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		<dc:creator>quattrolife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate this car. It represents everything that has gone wrong at Ford. And not only that, but the pricing is absolutely the only reason to buy one. I&#039;d go as far as to say I&#039;d buy a Toyota Corolla (which although aging, has a newer chassis) over the &quot;new&quot; Ford. Hideous. Cheap. Tacky. Gimmicky. Say what you will, but one word describes it best: failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I hate this car. It represents everything that has gone wrong at Ford. And not only that, but the pricing is absolutely the only reason to buy one. I&#8217;d go as far as to say I&#8217;d buy a Toyota Corolla (which although aging, has a newer chassis) over the &#8220;new&#8221; Ford. Hideous. Cheap. Tacky. Gimmicky. Say what you will, but one word describes it best: failure.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tech98</title>
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		<dc:creator>tech98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I will bet my last dollar that the real reason for the US-only Out-Of-Focus is that the US small car fiefdom was allowed to have it’s way against the best interests of both the company and it’s customers.&lt;/em&gt; 

Some people in Detroit still seem to hold the 70s antedilevian idea that small cars are meant to be cheap, deliberately crappy penalty boxes produced grudgingly for those oddballs who can&#039;t be steered into buying a REAL MURKAN big car -- an idea that should have expired with Lee Iacocca&#039;s checked polyester pants.

There are too many imports producing very good small cars and making good profits selling them at premium prices because they are good. Whining that labor costs mean you have to produce cut-cornered junk? Build it in Mexico at $3 an hour. The Fusion/Milan is built south of the border and I don&#039;t see it leading its class in engineering, refinement or dynamics, either. The D3 with their blame-culture seem to excel at producing excuses more than excellent vehicles. 

The D3 won&#039;t survive selling only to the shrinking pool of blinkered small-town midwesterners who only shop at the local Ford dealer and want something basic with a fat rebate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I will bet my last dollar that the real reason for the US-only Out-Of-Focus is that the US small car fiefdom was allowed to have it’s way against the best interests of both the company and it’s customers.</em> </p>
<p>Some people in Detroit still seem to hold the 70s antedilevian idea that small cars are meant to be cheap, deliberately crappy penalty boxes produced grudgingly for those oddballs who can&#8217;t be steered into buying a REAL MURKAN big car &#8212; an idea that should have expired with Lee Iacocca&#8217;s checked polyester pants.</p>
<p>There are too many imports producing very good small cars and making good profits selling them at premium prices because they are good. Whining that labor costs mean you have to produce cut-cornered junk? Build it in Mexico at $3 an hour. The Fusion/Milan is built south of the border and I don&#8217;t see it leading its class in engineering, refinement or dynamics, either. The D3 with their blame-culture seem to excel at producing excuses more than excellent vehicles. </p>
<p>The D3 won&#8217;t survive selling only to the shrinking pool of blinkered small-town midwesterners who only shop at the local Ford dealer and want something basic with a fat rebate.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ash78</title>
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		<dc:creator>ash78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing wrong with &quot;businesspeople&quot; running the show, they just have to have passion for the biz. On the flipside, you can&#039;t really have engineers designing everything about a car. Otherwise the Focus would cost $40k and last 30+ years ;)  (not a great business decision in this era of planned obsolescence and consumer excess)

Based on a few of the leaders brought into the 2.8 in recent years, I&#039;m somehow doubting that automotive passion is paramount in selecting the boss. Especially Nardelli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nothing wrong with &#8220;businesspeople&#8221; running the show, they just have to have passion for the biz. On the flipside, you can&#8217;t really have engineers designing everything about a car. Otherwise the Focus would cost $40k and last 30+ years ;)  (not a great business decision in this era of planned obsolescence and consumer excess)</p>
<p>Based on a few of the leaders brought into the 2.8 in recent years, I&#8217;m somehow doubting that automotive passion is paramount in selecting the boss. Especially Nardelli.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the guy defending Ford&#039;s Ivy League MBA&#039;s, I know an engineer who has an MBA from Harvard.  He graduated from the same university (a small regionally known Catholic university) as I did with the same degree, and he claims that his undergrad was much harder than anything he found in Business School.  Not to say that they&#039;re a bunch of dummies in the Harvard Business School, but just like certain car marques, sometimes, you pay alot for a name.  And anyone who thinks its a GOOD idea to rebadge a 500, slap on some tacky lights and some &#039;bling&#039; and call it a Taurus, can&#039;t be all that smart.  (That is what they did right?)

About the car, not having seen one in person, I can&#039;t say much, but having seen several Euro Focuses, including a few of the ST models, there doesn&#039;t seem to be much of an excuse to give us the current NA styling instead of the Euro styling, unless they think that the NA market is like a flock of morons drawn to shiny things.  The Euro Focus looks modern, with a crisp design.  This...thing...doesn&#039;t.  And that&#039;s just the styling, not the C1 or whatever chassis, or the 2.3L 4-cylinder we&#039;re not getting.  They really must think that the average American consumer doesn&#039;t expect much from Ford, so why raise the bar when they don&#039;t have to?  Except they do need to raise the bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->To the guy defending Ford&#8217;s Ivy League MBA&#8217;s, I know an engineer who has an MBA from Harvard.  He graduated from the same university (a small regionally known Catholic university) as I did with the same degree, and he claims that his undergrad was much harder than anything he found in Business School.  Not to say that they&#8217;re a bunch of dummies in the Harvard Business School, but just like certain car marques, sometimes, you pay alot for a name.  And anyone who thinks its a GOOD idea to rebadge a 500, slap on some tacky lights and some &#8216;bling&#8217; and call it a Taurus, can&#8217;t be all that smart.  (That is what they did right?)</p>
<p>About the car, not having seen one in person, I can&#8217;t say much, but having seen several Euro Focuses, including a few of the ST models, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much of an excuse to give us the current NA styling instead of the Euro styling, unless they think that the NA market is like a flock of morons drawn to shiny things.  The Euro Focus looks modern, with a crisp design.  This&#8230;thing&#8230;doesn&#8217;t.  And that&#8217;s just the styling, not the C1 or whatever chassis, or the 2.3L 4-cylinder we&#8217;re not getting.  They really must think that the average American consumer doesn&#8217;t expect much from Ford, so why raise the bar when they don&#8217;t have to?  Except they do need to raise the bar.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: blowfish</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80901</link>
		<dc:creator>blowfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just met a guy selling Ford for a living for few mths now. I had to keep all the unsolicited opinion all to myself. Is kind of hard.
He says he&#039;s doing OK, I didnt have the nerve to ask him the definition of OK. Say if he moves 1-2 /week with decent prof then is not bad living. 
He said since he started working there, other car dealers tried to entice him there too. Hopefully he&#039;s doing OK. He used to sell Finance/ Life Ins.
SO he&#039;s no rookie in sales.
Should Ford lose $3k per car somebody must find them as a good deal.

I would say these new Focus has a face only a mother could love. 
Why dont they just bring back Edsels, or make her a face like a Shar Pei dog.
Few yrs the Troll doll was a hit too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I just met a guy selling Ford for a living for few mths now. I had to keep all the unsolicited opinion all to myself. Is kind of hard.<br />
He says he&#8217;s doing OK, I didnt have the nerve to ask him the definition of OK. Say if he moves 1-2 /week with decent prof then is not bad living.<br />
He said since he started working there, other car dealers tried to entice him there too. Hopefully he&#8217;s doing OK. He used to sell Finance/ Life Ins.<br />
SO he&#8217;s no rookie in sales.<br />
Should Ford lose $3k per car somebody must find them as a good deal.</p>
<p>I would say these new Focus has a face only a mother could love.<br />
Why dont they just bring back Edsels, or make her a face like a Shar Pei dog.<br />
Few yrs the Troll doll was a hit too.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-focus-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80894</link>
		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2008 Focus seems like an updated, Ford-version of the 1998 Toyota Tercel.</description>
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