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	<title>Comments on: Ford Drops $2.72b, Finance Unit Stumbles</title>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-drops-272b-finance-unit-stumbles/comment-page-1/#comment-179452</link>
		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want another example of why Ford is struggling, go to the ford.ca website and try and configure and price a Ford Ranger.  Let me know what your experience is like.</description>
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		<title>By: Edward Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thank you. It ain&#039;t easy keeping track of all that loss...

I agree with &lt;em&gt;RobertSD&lt;/em&gt; about things not being as dire as they could be. Based on how dependent auto sales are on credit though, I&#039;d be very hesitant to start counting the &quot;profitable by &#039;09&quot; chickens before they hatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yes, thank you. It ain&#8217;t easy keeping track of all that loss&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with <em>RobertSD</em> about things not being as dire as they could be. Based on how dependent auto sales are on credit though, I&#8217;d be very hesitant to start counting the &#8220;profitable by &#8216;09&#8243; chickens before they hatch.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers have been corrected. Thanks for keeping us honest.</description>
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		<title>By: jaje</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-drops-272b-finance-unit-stumbles/comment-page-1/#comment-178372</link>
		<dc:creator>jaje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add to the fact that NHTSA just released a request to 4.6m Ford owners to immediately bring their Ford to a dealer to deactivate the cruise control from the fire hazard it has had for so long.  Note that ~ 16m Fords have this Ford designed / TI built cruise control unit but Ford only recalled 9m of them and not all (even though the danger was the same).  Note that Ford had rerecall 300k vehicles b/c the repairs were improper.

So there&#039;s ~ 7m Fords that have this danger but no recall however there&#039;s an on going NHTSA investigation and Ford will be forced to finally fix this fiery forgotten fatal defect (That&#039;s a lot of &quot;f&quot;s.) Note there are over 100 fatalities from houses burning down b/c the vehicle was parked in the garage.  This will hit their profits pretty badly when this comes to fruition and a lot of Ford customers realize that their safety and wellfare are not &quot;job 1&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Add to the fact that NHTSA just released a request to 4.6m Ford owners to immediately bring their Ford to a dealer to deactivate the cruise control from the fire hazard it has had for so long.  Note that ~ 16m Fords have this Ford designed / TI built cruise control unit but Ford only recalled 9m of them and not all (even though the danger was the same).  Note that Ford had rerecall 300k vehicles b/c the repairs were improper.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s ~ 7m Fords that have this danger but no recall however there&#8217;s an on going NHTSA investigation and Ford will be forced to finally fix this fiery forgotten fatal defect (That&#8217;s a lot of &#8220;f&#8221;s.) Note there are over 100 fatalities from houses burning down b/c the vehicle was parked in the garage.  This will hit their profits pretty badly when this comes to fruition and a lot of Ford customers realize that their safety and wellfare are not &#8220;job 1&#8243;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only $2.7B? Pfft, that&#039;s nothing compared to what my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Earns-Sprint-Nextel.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;employers&lt;/a&gt; lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Only $2.7B? Pfft, that&#8217;s nothing compared to what my <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Earns-Sprint-Nextel.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">employers</a> lost.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RobertSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really confused by those numbers as well.  Last year (2006) they lost $12.6 billion, about $5 billion of that was operational loss (is that where the $4.97 billion comes from?).  In 2007, they lost $2.7 billion, about $300 million of which was an operational loss.  So, excluding special items, Ford had a nearly $5 billion swing.  FMC saw declining profits, which means that all of that improvement was in the auto business which saw an operational loss of just over $1 billion worldwide, I think (I haven&#039;t looked at the filing in a few weeks).  

I&#039;d say that this substantial progress is a good &quot;indication of profits to come.&quot;  It is by no means guaranteed, as you point out, and will be extremely difficult this year for sure with the credit markets and economic slump, as you also mention, but it is not nearly as dire as some portray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m really confused by those numbers as well.  Last year (2006) they lost $12.6 billion, about $5 billion of that was operational loss (is that where the $4.97 billion comes from?).  In 2007, they lost $2.7 billion, about $300 million of which was an operational loss.  So, excluding special items, Ford had a nearly $5 billion swing.  FMC saw declining profits, which means that all of that improvement was in the auto business which saw an operational loss of just over $1 billion worldwide, I think (I haven&#8217;t looked at the filing in a few weeks).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that this substantial progress is a good &#8220;indication of profits to come.&#8221;  It is by no means guaranteed, as you point out, and will be extremely difficult this year for sure with the credit markets and economic slump, as you also mention, but it is not nearly as dire as some portray.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: frontline</title>
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		<dc:creator>frontline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,
 Were those losses for a 1 month period?</description>
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 Were those losses for a 1 month period?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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