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	<title>Comments on: Ford Death Watch 1: Desperate Times</title>
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		<title>By: Checksum Crusader</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-11267</link>
		<dc:creator>Checksum Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just look at Ford&#8217;s European division. This is the Ford Mondeo for 2007. This best can be compared to the US Fusion. I think the Mondeo is better inside and out. Here is the rest of the Euro Ford line up. Hands down they crush the US line. Considering Ford needs to really start &#8220;hitting cars out of the park&#8220;, I don&#8217;t think they need to look to far out of the company to find ideas. It is really no mystery why Ford North America is in trouble. Outside of trucks and SUVs Ford invested very little in the rest of its product line. They continued to loose market share and have been pounded by labor agreements that would sink just about any company. Then as the cost of fuel went up, the truck and SUV sales slowed to a trickle. Now they have lots of metal sitting on lots they cannot move, more dealers than they know what to do with and car line that leaves much to be desired. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->[...] Just look at Ford&#8217;s European division. This is the Ford Mondeo for 2007. This best can be compared to the US Fusion. I think the Mondeo is better inside and out. Here is the rest of the Euro Ford line up. Hands down they crush the US line. Considering Ford needs to really start &#8220;hitting cars out of the park&#8220;, I don&#8217;t think they need to look to far out of the company to find ideas. It is really no mystery why Ford North America is in trouble. Outside of trucks and SUVs Ford invested very little in the rest of its product line. They continued to loose market share and have been pounded by labor agreements that would sink just about any company. Then as the cost of fuel went up, the truck and SUV sales slowed to a trickle. Now they have lots of metal sitting on lots they cannot move, more dealers than they know what to do with and car line that leaves much to be desired. [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Need 4 Cars &#187; Ford gets a Death Watch - TTAC thinks time is ticking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need 4 Cars &#187; Ford gets a Death Watch - TTAC thinks time is ticking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Truth About Car (TTAC)&#8217;s &#8220;Death Watch&#8221; series, whose sole occupant was General Motors, now welcomes Ford Motor Co. into its billowing folds.    TTAC&#8217;s Matthew Neundorf, armed with blunt facts and near-razor wit, lays bare the automaker&#8217;s litany of problems: the recent $254 million loss; a drop in sales of the popular F-150 Series; and the company&#8217;s inexplicable cancellation of its big people movers like the Lincoln Town Car when, to quote Neundorf, &#8216;&#8230;the American market is flooding with SUV refugees...&#8217; And while he acknowledges the Blue Oval&#8217;s Mexican-built triplets (aka Fusion/Milan/Zephyr) are doing well sales-wise, their contributions are just too late. He views the possible sale of Jaguar as a necessary amputation pruning, as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->[...] The Truth About Car (TTAC)&#8217;s &#8220;Death Watch&#8221; series, whose sole occupant was General Motors, now welcomes Ford Motor Co. into its billowing folds.    TTAC&#8217;s Matthew Neundorf, armed with blunt facts and near-razor wit, lays bare the automaker&#8217;s litany of problems: the recent $254 million loss; a drop in sales of the popular F-150 Series; and the company&#8217;s inexplicable cancellation of its big people movers like the Lincoln Town Car when, to quote Neundorf, &#8216;&#8230;the American market is flooding with SUV refugees&#8230;&#8217; And while he acknowledges the Blue Oval&#8217;s Mexican-built triplets (aka Fusion/Milan/Zephyr) are doing well sales-wise, their contributions are just too late. He views the possible sale of Jaguar as a necessary amputation pruning, as well. [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-5235</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t mean ato get technical in all of this oil analysis, but to point out the terrible fragility of the supply pipeline (literally). Here we have companies depending on 35 gallong tanks in trucks to be filled economically and easily to justify selling these rigs. I would love to know the percentage of people who really need these trucks for carriage and work and those who like to ride in them. It&#039;s the latter who will be dumped out in an extended fuel crisis. In either case the big v8&#039;s are doomed because even the industrial users will demand diesels for these light trucks. Then we get to cars which also must become more efficient to survive. If the American companies think that this is only a passing fancy, they will be history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I didn&#8217;t mean ato get technical in all of this oil analysis, but to point out the terrible fragility of the supply pipeline (literally). Here we have companies depending on 35 gallong tanks in trucks to be filled economically and easily to justify selling these rigs. I would love to know the percentage of people who really need these trucks for carriage and work and those who like to ride in them. It&#8217;s the latter who will be dumped out in an extended fuel crisis. In either case the big v8&#8217;s are doomed because even the industrial users will demand diesels for these light trucks. Then we get to cars which also must become more efficient to survive. If the American companies think that this is only a passing fancy, they will be history.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chanman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-5078</link>
		<dc:creator>chanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œIn any ordinary business, you lose product you lose profits, not so in the oil business. You now sell the lesser amount you can deliver for more money. It may prove profitable to have the line down for a few months. And you thought the BP execs werenâ€™t the brightest bulbs on the tree.â€

BP *does* lose money - they have a lot less oil to sell.

The ones that profit are competing oil companies that get to face the higher price with their own supplies undiminished.

Thatâ€™s why cartels are hard to put together - if everyone tightens production, everyone gets to reap higher prices. But if everyone else tightens production, and you donâ€™t, you get to sell more at a higher price.

If OPEC tightens the screws again, the big winners will be non-OPEC oil producing countries like Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->â€œIn any ordinary business, you lose product you lose profits, not so in the oil business. You now sell the lesser amount you can deliver for more money. It may prove profitable to have the line down for a few months. And you thought the BP execs werenâ€™t the brightest bulbs on the tree.â€</p>
<p>BP *does* lose money &#8211; they have a lot less oil to sell.</p>
<p>The ones that profit are competing oil companies that get to face the higher price with their own supplies undiminished.</p>
<p>Thatâ€™s why cartels are hard to put together &#8211; if everyone tightens production, everyone gets to reap higher prices. But if everyone else tightens production, and you donâ€™t, you get to sell more at a higher price.</p>
<p>If OPEC tightens the screws again, the big winners will be non-OPEC oil producing countries like Russia.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geozinger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-4947</link>
		<dc:creator>geozinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerry weber writes: 

&quot;In any ordinary business, you lose product you lose profits, not so in the oil business. You now sell the lesser amount you can deliver for more money.&quot;

Amen brother.

I guess this is all part of the plan to move &quot;beyond petroleum&quot;...</description>
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<p>&#8220;In any ordinary business, you lose product you lose profits, not so in the oil business. You now sell the lesser amount you can deliver for more money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen brother.</p>
<p>I guess this is all part of the plan to move &#8220;beyond petroleum&#8221;&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-4936</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on the Alsakan pipeline. It seems BP last cleaned it in 1992. Even my house was cleaned more recently than that. The competitors have also used an internal probe to look from the inside, BPO thought it was expensive and did ultrasound from the outside. In any ordinary business, you lose product you lose profits, not so in the oil business. You now sell the lesser amount you can deliver for more money. It may prove profitable to have the line down for a few months. And you thought the BP execs weren&#039;t the brightest bulbs on the tree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Update on the Alsakan pipeline. It seems BP last cleaned it in 1992. Even my house was cleaned more recently than that. The competitors have also used an internal probe to look from the inside, BPO thought it was expensive and did ultrasound from the outside. In any ordinary business, you lose product you lose profits, not so in the oil business. You now sell the lesser amount you can deliver for more money. It may prove profitable to have the line down for a few months. And you thought the BP execs weren&#8217;t the brightest bulbs on the tree.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gbh</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-4886</link>
		<dc:creator>gbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best part is BP (theoretically) pumped millions of gallons of corrosion inhibitors through those pipes every year. 

Ooops.

I&#039;m with ya Jerry, I love that BP says that they were &quot;surprised&quot; and &quot;never expected&quot; that kind of damage.

You&#039;d think that there would be some sort of regular testing of a pipeline that is kind of critical.  But, that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The best part is BP (theoretically) pumped millions of gallons of corrosion inhibitors through those pipes every year. </p>
<p>Ooops.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with ya Jerry, I love that BP says that they were &#8220;surprised&#8221; and &#8220;never expected&#8221; that kind of damage.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that there would be some sort of regular testing of a pipeline that is kind of critical.  But, that&#8217;s just me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-4878</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to geozinger &amp; glenn You are not reading what&#039;s happening in Alaska. The pipe is not leaking, it has lost 3/4 of it&#039;s thickness due to corrosion. It doesn&#039;t need to be patched but totally replaced. This will take months. The only question is how come now they notice 3/4 of the metal gone ina pipe?The pipeline is already 100% shutdown and there are no predictions as to the reopening time. This is huge, not speculation. We lost 8%of our oil, thank you BP for being the modern foreward thinking scientific company who neither saw this happening or figured out a way to stop the corrosion when say the pipe was  sayonly 10% eroded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->to geozinger &amp; glenn You are not reading what&#8217;s happening in Alaska. The pipe is not leaking, it has lost 3/4 of it&#8217;s thickness due to corrosion. It doesn&#8217;t need to be patched but totally replaced. This will take months. The only question is how come now they notice 3/4 of the metal gone ina pipe?The pipeline is already 100% shutdown and there are no predictions as to the reopening time. This is huge, not speculation. We lost 8%of our oil, thank you BP for being the modern foreward thinking scientific company who neither saw this happening or figured out a way to stop the corrosion when say the pipe was  sayonly 10% eroded.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geozinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>geozinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn:

I&#039;m in Grand Rapids. The gas price this morning? 

$3.19. 

This evening?

Who knows.

I&#039;m betting as this BP issue continues, we&#039;ll see higher prices yet...</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m in Grand Rapids. The gas price this morning? </p>
<p>$3.19. </p>
<p>This evening?</p>
<p>Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not take too much of a stretch to imagine the possibilities behind the BP oil line &quot;leak&quot; which will supposedly take &quot;weeks&quot; to fix.  Leaks surely don&#039;t take weeks to fix, whereas sabotage (like an explosion) might.  But of course, this is more speculation.  However, many of the explosions in Texas at refineries over the last year have seemed rather - um &quot;suspect&quot; to me.  Plus, we know terrorists have actually tried to destroy Saudi facilities.  

I&#039;m guessing this is why gas was $3.13 this morning in my town, about 13 cents or 4.5% higher than the national average.  I&#039;ve just checked www.hybridcars.com and looked, and at least we are now a penny less than the Californians today - last week, we were about 3 cents a gallon HIGHER than California in my northern Michigan town.  

That&#039;s what I get for my parents moving to a beautiful area in 1970, and my moving back 14 years ago - it has become a tourist trap and gas prices are the highest in Michigan.  Lucky us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It does not take too much of a stretch to imagine the possibilities behind the BP oil line &#8220;leak&#8221; which will supposedly take &#8220;weeks&#8221; to fix.  Leaks surely don&#8217;t take weeks to fix, whereas sabotage (like an explosion) might.  But of course, this is more speculation.  However, many of the explosions in Texas at refineries over the last year have seemed rather &#8211; um &#8220;suspect&#8221; to me.  Plus, we know terrorists have actually tried to destroy Saudi facilities.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing this is why gas was $3.13 this morning in my town, about 13 cents or 4.5% higher than the national average.  I&#8217;ve just checked <a href="http://www.hybridcars.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hybridcars.com</a> and looked, and at least we are now a penny less than the Californians today &#8211; last week, we were about 3 cents a gallon HIGHER than California in my northern Michigan town.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I get for my parents moving to a beautiful area in 1970, and my moving back 14 years ago &#8211; it has become a tourist trap and gas prices are the highest in Michigan.  Lucky us.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: hdroofer</title>
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		<dc:creator>hdroofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford will never file chapter 11. I am not an attorney but, I am reasonably certain that if Ford were to file bankruptcy, the Ford family would lose their controlling stock in which case, the family members would have to actually find jobs they are qualified for. Aint gonna happen.
 Willy Clay ran the Detroit Lions for years before he took over Ford and look how well that turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ford will never file chapter 11. I am not an attorney but, I am reasonably certain that if Ford were to file bankruptcy, the Ford family would lose their controlling stock in which case, the family members would have to actually find jobs they are qualified for. Aint gonna happen.<br />
 Willy Clay ran the Detroit Lions for years before he took over Ford and look how well that turned out.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geozinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>geozinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerry weber:

A lot of what you posted there is speculation. There&#039;s no need to ratchet up the anxiety. 

I do have a question for BP however...

WTF?

Don&#039;t they pay someone to assess the pipelines and keep this kind of thing from happening?</description>
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<p>A lot of what you posted there is speculation. There&#8217;s no need to ratchet up the anxiety. </p>
<p>I do have a question for BP however&#8230;</p>
<p>WTF?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they pay someone to assess the pipelines and keep this kind of thing from happening?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. update on my fuel cost comment, BP has just announced that Prudhoe Bay Alaska is shutting down indefininetly for repairs. That&#039;s 8% of all gas for the U.S. Forget the $3.00 gallon and think $4.00. This is if all goes well, however the &quot;Wall Street&quot; crowd are saying buy Xmas we will see prices crash to $60.00 a barrel. Believe that and you can join the Auto execs in their market share predictions for next year. Let me give you an even scarier prediction, if Israel or America attack Iran there will be no gas for a protracted period. Any fuel would have to be allocated for power generation and defense. What little there is would be $10.00 to $20.00 per gallon. Now the prius brings $50,000 per copy on the black market newly redesigned silverados bring $0. It&#039;s a long shot, but so is the prediction that fuel goes back to &quot;old levels&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->p.s. update on my fuel cost comment, BP has just announced that Prudhoe Bay Alaska is shutting down indefininetly for repairs. That&#8217;s 8% of all gas for the U.S. Forget the $3.00 gallon and think $4.00. This is if all goes well, however the &#8220;Wall Street&#8221; crowd are saying buy Xmas we will see prices crash to $60.00 a barrel. Believe that and you can join the Auto execs in their market share predictions for next year. Let me give you an even scarier prediction, if Israel or America attack Iran there will be no gas for a protracted period. Any fuel would have to be allocated for power generation and defense. What little there is would be $10.00 to $20.00 per gallon. Now the prius brings $50,000 per copy on the black market newly redesigned silverados bring $0. It&#8217;s a long shot, but so is the prediction that fuel goes back to &#8220;old levels&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chanman</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 04:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe what we need is an automaker dead pool.  One for the companies proper, and one for brands.</description>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-death-watch-1-desperate-times/comment-page-2/#comment-4770</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with all of the gm news, we forget Hery&#039;s old company. I believe as many of theabove writers that gm and ford are destined to be importers of captive brands in the future. Look at lincoln, as another writer said 7 years ago Ford was within striking distance of GM, in that time frame they actually passed Cadillac as America&#039;s largest seller of luxury cars. The division that is melting away fastest is Lincoln mercury. They go from 200,000+ lincoln units to about 100,000. My friends these are not focus sales these were $40,000 units as Lincoln didn&#039;t have a stable of rebadged mazdas back then. Lincolns were highly profitable. The town car is history last unsuccesfully reworked some 7 years ago, like taurus it was the engine that pulled the train. What does a company say that trashes the #1 selling car taurus, and the #1 selling luxury car? How many chances do you get in a business where the competitors are already two model cycles ahead of you? Who do we nowblame? In the 1930&#039;s  they blamed old Henry for not changing with the times and blowing his lead to GM. It won&#039;t matter, will it? Even the mustang, it was clean, fresh and renewed two years ago, now seems to look well old like it&#039;s imitated 1964 progenitor. AS for the F150, for 25 years Gm has played catch up, now with new products from chevy, gmc here goes another lead down the tubes. ( however if gm, ford , and chrysler ever think pickup trucks will come back to where they were they truly should retire. I came back from a five day vacation and found gas to be 10 cents higher.) No it&#039;s over, and yes maybe ford has been given a free ride while we all watch GM&#039;s death watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->with all of the gm news, we forget Hery&#8217;s old company. I believe as many of theabove writers that gm and ford are destined to be importers of captive brands in the future. Look at lincoln, as another writer said 7 years ago Ford was within striking distance of GM, in that time frame they actually passed Cadillac as America&#8217;s largest seller of luxury cars. The division that is melting away fastest is Lincoln mercury. They go from 200,000+ lincoln units to about 100,000. My friends these are not focus sales these were $40,000 units as Lincoln didn&#8217;t have a stable of rebadged mazdas back then. Lincolns were highly profitable. The town car is history last unsuccesfully reworked some 7 years ago, like taurus it was the engine that pulled the train. What does a company say that trashes the #1 selling car taurus, and the #1 selling luxury car? How many chances do you get in a business where the competitors are already two model cycles ahead of you? Who do we nowblame? In the 1930&#8217;s  they blamed old Henry for not changing with the times and blowing his lead to GM. It won&#8217;t matter, will it? Even the mustang, it was clean, fresh and renewed two years ago, now seems to look well old like it&#8217;s imitated 1964 progenitor. AS for the F150, for 25 years Gm has played catch up, now with new products from chevy, gmc here goes another lead down the tubes. ( however if gm, ford , and chrysler ever think pickup trucks will come back to where they were they truly should retire. I came back from a five day vacation and found gas to be 10 cents higher.) No it&#8217;s over, and yes maybe ford has been given a free ride while we all watch GM&#8217;s death watch.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ford gets a Death Watch - TTAC thinks time is ticking - auto blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ford gets a Death Watch - TTAC thinks time is ticking - auto blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Truth About Car (TTAC)&#8217;s &#8220;Death Watch&#8221; series, whose sole occupant was General Motors, now welcomes Ford Motor Co. into its billowing folds. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->[...] The Truth About Car (TTAC)&#8217;s &#8220;Death Watch&#8221; series, whose sole occupant was General Motors, now welcomes Ford Motor Co. into its billowing folds. [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: James2</title>
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		<dc:creator>James2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Bill Ford needs to do is fire &lt;strong&gt;everyone&lt;/strong&gt; who works in Dearborn and do a wholesale importing of Ford of Europe&#039;s lineup. 

The Ka/Fiesta would run rings around the Yaris and Honda Fit. Everyone already knows how good the Euro Focus is... it&#039;s called the Mazda 3. Coming soon is the next Mondeo, which makes the Fusion/Milan look so 20th century. There are a pair of minivans, er, whatever... called the S-Max and Galaxy that make every other minivan on the road look ancient.

Oh, and replace the Crown Victoria with the Australian Falcon.

About the only North American products this new-and-improved Ford need carry is the Mustang, Escape and the F-series. The Econoline can be replaced by the Euro Transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What Bill Ford needs to do is fire <strong>everyone</strong> who works in Dearborn and do a wholesale importing of Ford of Europe&#8217;s lineup. </p>
<p>The Ka/Fiesta would run rings around the Yaris and Honda Fit. Everyone already knows how good the Euro Focus is&#8230; it&#8217;s called the Mazda 3. Coming soon is the next Mondeo, which makes the Fusion/Milan look so 20th century. There are a pair of minivans, er, whatever&#8230; called the S-Max and Galaxy that make every other minivan on the road look ancient.</p>
<p>Oh, and replace the Crown Victoria with the Australian Falcon.</p>
<p>About the only North American products this new-and-improved Ford need carry is the Mustang, Escape and the F-series. The Econoline can be replaced by the Euro Transit.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nino</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 03:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don Whitefield says;

The US companies have a very good reason not import small cars like the Focus from Germany. You guys forget that cars are going for a lot more money in Europe than in North America. There is not much of a profit in small cars to start with and it completely disappears when shipping european made cars to the US. They also have to be fitted and certified to comply with the rules over here. 


I don&#039;t believe that importing these cars is the intent of posters who have shown preference for these models. 

In the case of the Euro Focus, Fiesta, and the Ka, the intent is that they be produced in this country (or Mexico) in the factories that are producing the present Focus. Since the Euro Focus is based on the same platform as the Mazda3 and Volvo S40, US certification, at least for that model, shouldn&#039;t be a big concern.</description>
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<p>The US companies have a very good reason not import small cars like the Focus from Germany. You guys forget that cars are going for a lot more money in Europe than in North America. There is not much of a profit in small cars to start with and it completely disappears when shipping european made cars to the US. They also have to be fitted and certified to comply with the rules over here. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that importing these cars is the intent of posters who have shown preference for these models. </p>
<p>In the case of the Euro Focus, Fiesta, and the Ka, the intent is that they be produced in this country (or Mexico) in the factories that are producing the present Focus. Since the Euro Focus is based on the same platform as the Mazda3 and Volvo S40, US certification, at least for that model, shouldn&#8217;t be a big concern.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Don Whitefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Whitefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US companies have a very good reason not import small cars like the Focus from Germany. You guys forget that cars are going for a lot more money in Europe than in North America. There is not much of a profit in small cars to start with and it completely disappears when shipping european made cars to the US. They also have to be fitted and certified to comply with the rules over here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The US companies have a very good reason not import small cars like the Focus from Germany. You guys forget that cars are going for a lot more money in Europe than in North America. There is not much of a profit in small cars to start with and it completely disappears when shipping european made cars to the US. They also have to be fitted and certified to comply with the rules over here.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nino</title>
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		<dc:creator>nino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nino,
I actually think the Freestyle is actually a very sensible alternative to a large SUV and the 500 looks OK to me too. But it doesnâ€™t matter what you or I think. Those cars arenâ€™t selling.&quot; 



Other than the styling, I can&#039;t figure out why. The Freestyle is based on the Volvo XC90 platform and that car seems to be a favorite of those who prefer Euro SUVs.  But you&#039;re right in that nobody cares what we think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Nino,<br />
I actually think the Freestyle is actually a very sensible alternative to a large SUV and the 500 looks OK to me too. But it doesnâ€™t matter what you or I think. Those cars arenâ€™t selling.&#8221; </p>
<p>Other than the styling, I can&#8217;t figure out why. The Freestyle is based on the Volvo XC90 platform and that car seems to be a favorite of those who prefer Euro SUVs.  But you&#8217;re right in that nobody cares what we think.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 210delray</title>
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		<dc:creator>210delray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to believe that 7 short years ago Ford seemed poised to pass GM in global market share to become the new #1.  Oh, that halycon year of 1999, before the Explorer/Firestone mess, terrorism in the US (ignoring that homegrown monster McVeigh), the stock market crash and continuing malaise, Bush and Iraq, $3 gas...how the mighty have fallen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s hard to believe that 7 short years ago Ford seemed poised to pass GM in global market share to become the new #1.  Oh, that halycon year of 1999, before the Explorer/Firestone mess, terrorism in the US (ignoring that homegrown monster McVeigh), the stock market crash and continuing malaise, Bush and Iraq, $3 gas&#8230;how the mighty have fallen!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ThriftyTechie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThriftyTechie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skor,
I&#039;ve been thinking about posting a snarky bet remark and you just asked for it. I&#039;ll bet, err... I mean subscribe to TTAC for $50 if GM goes bankrupt before Ford.

Mr. F, an interesting excercise may be a poll/futures market concerning odds of Ford and GM bankruptcy, brand axeing (Mercury, Buick, etc.)


Nino,
I actually think the Freestyle is actually a very sensible alternative to a large SUV and the 500 looks OK to me too. But it doesn&#039;t matter what you or I think. Those cars aren&#039;t selling. 

Meanwhile few people around here think much of GMs Impala, G6, Malibu and Cobalt. But they ARE selling, apparently (going by July &#039;06 sales data).

Also an unscientific observation a la Joe C:
There are many new Impalas, G6s, Cobalts and SAABS on the roads here in the NYC metro area. (And no, they&#039;re not all rentals and police cars =) )</description>
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I&#8217;ve been thinking about posting a snarky bet remark and you just asked for it. I&#8217;ll bet, err&#8230; I mean subscribe to TTAC for $50 if GM goes bankrupt before Ford.</p>
<p>Mr. F, an interesting excercise may be a poll/futures market concerning odds of Ford and GM bankruptcy, brand axeing (Mercury, Buick, etc.)</p>
<p>Nino,<br />
I actually think the Freestyle is actually a very sensible alternative to a large SUV and the 500 looks OK to me too. But it doesn&#8217;t matter what you or I think. Those cars aren&#8217;t selling. </p>
<p>Meanwhile few people around here think much of GMs Impala, G6, Malibu and Cobalt. But they ARE selling, apparently (going by July &#8216;06 sales data).</p>
<p>Also an unscientific observation a la Joe C:<br />
There are many new Impalas, G6s, Cobalts and SAABS on the roads here in the NYC metro area. (And no, they&#8217;re not all rentals and police cars =) )<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chanman</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global platform, the Mazda 3, European Ford Focus and Volvo S40 all ride on the Volvo-developed Ford C1 platform.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C1_Platform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Global platform, the Mazda 3, European Ford Focus and Volvo S40 all ride on the Volvo-developed Ford C1 platform.</p>
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		<title>By: geozinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>geozinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nweaver:

GM has Daewoo. Looking outside of North America, Daewoo does a &lt;strong&gt;lot&lt;/strong&gt; of GM&#039;s heavy lifting worldwide.

Daewoo is responsible for the Aveo and most of the Suzuki models we see in the States. They&#039;re responsible for the European and Asian Chevy counterpart to the Equinox (I can&#039;t think of the name), which is getting rave reviews. Many Opels are Daewoo engineered.

I&#039;ve said it before, the Koreans have mastered the inexpensive car game. (Which is smart, because the Chinese are coming...)

I think that Daewoo carries so much of the load it was part of the reason why GM gave up some of it&#039;s cooperation with other Japanese car companies, like Subaru. Why duplicate efforts? 

It&#039;s great that Mazda can contribute so much to Fords North American lineup, don&#039;t count out Volvo. I&#039;ve spent some time in a 500, it&#039;s not a bad place to be. On another note, I thought the European Focus was the Volvo V40 (or V30)?</description>
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<p>GM has Daewoo. Looking outside of North America, Daewoo does a <strong>lot</strong> of GM&#8217;s heavy lifting worldwide.</p>
<p>Daewoo is responsible for the Aveo and most of the Suzuki models we see in the States. They&#8217;re responsible for the European and Asian Chevy counterpart to the Equinox (I can&#8217;t think of the name), which is getting rave reviews. Many Opels are Daewoo engineered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, the Koreans have mastered the inexpensive car game. (Which is smart, because the Chinese are coming&#8230;)</p>
<p>I think that Daewoo carries so much of the load it was part of the reason why GM gave up some of it&#8217;s cooperation with other Japanese car companies, like Subaru. Why duplicate efforts? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that Mazda can contribute so much to Fords North American lineup, don&#8217;t count out Volvo. I&#8217;ve spent some time in a 500, it&#8217;s not a bad place to be. On another note, I thought the European Focus was the Volvo V40 (or V30)?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a pretty good article but one important point was missed, and that is whereas many (if not all) of GM&#039;s problems can be traced back to one name (Roger Smith), all of Ford&#039;s current ills can be answered with a single word: 

Nasser.

Nasser was the one who got the company so diverted from their core automotive business that they were unable to either deal with the Explorer situation effectively, nor were they able to concentrate on maintaining market share of current models (the late Focus model upgrades is a prime example).

All car companies have major debacles which they either recover from, or they don&#039;t. It will be interesting to see if the Explorer roll-over fiasco, which was then compounded by skyrocketing gas prices which has squelched sales of their main profit generators (big trucks and SUVs), will be what goes down in history as doing Ford in.</description>
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<p>Nasser.</p>
<p>Nasser was the one who got the company so diverted from their core automotive business that they were unable to either deal with the Explorer situation effectively, nor were they able to concentrate on maintaining market share of current models (the late Focus model upgrades is a prime example).</p>
<p>All car companies have major debacles which they either recover from, or they don&#8217;t. It will be interesting to see if the Explorer roll-over fiasco, which was then compounded by skyrocketing gas prices which has squelched sales of their main profit generators (big trucks and SUVs), will be what goes down in history as doing Ford in.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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