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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-545141</link>
		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;golden2huskey:
I have a real problem with the government taking property like this. What would be acceptable is a massive fine, like the $10,000 previously mentioned. That would be a good deterrent. If you can’t pony up the bucks, then take the car as collateral.&lt;/i&gt;

I completely agree.

Furthermore, the often law makes it much easier to take a paid off 5 year old car than a 1 year old car  that&#039;s halfway thru a lease. Leasing firms have the deep pockets (and political connections) to fight back.</description>
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I have a real problem with the government taking property like this. What would be acceptable is a massive fine, like the $10,000 previously mentioned. That would be a good deterrent. If you can’t pony up the bucks, then take the car as collateral.</i></p>
<p>I completely agree.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the often law makes it much easier to take a paid off 5 year old car than a 1 year old car  that&#8217;s halfway thru a lease. Leasing firms have the deep pockets (and political connections) to fight back.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-544991</link>
		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have always liked this. Take the car, make the debt on the car non-dischargeable &lt;/em&gt;...

I have a real problem with the government taking property like this.  What would be acceptable is a massive fine, like the $10,000 previously mentioned.  That would be a good deterrent.  If you can&#039;t pony up the bucks, then take the car as collateral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I have always liked this. Take the car, make the debt on the car non-dischargeable </em>&#8230;</p>
<p>I have a real problem with the government taking property like this.  What would be acceptable is a massive fine, like the $10,000 previously mentioned.  That would be a good deterrent.  If you can&#8217;t pony up the bucks, then take the car as collateral.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-544922</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any thing that can be beaten by a hand driven air pump and a pair of rubber gloves just isn&#039;t worth doing.</description>
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		<title>By: yankinwaoz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-544661</link>
		<dc:creator>yankinwaoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will never happen. There is simply too much money being earned by the DUI industry to actually stop DUIs from happening. Every DUI results in at least a $10k cash infusion from normally law abiding (read - working and tax paying) citizens. Between all the lawyer fees, fines, special fines, fees, mandates, insurance premiums, and so on, there is a lot of incentive to keep this &quot;industry&quot; humming along nicely as it is.

If they really, really, wanted to stop DUIs. Then they would simply give mandatory 20 year prison sentences for the offense. No fines. No money involved to taint the objectiveness of law enforcement.

It may sound harsh, but I guarantee that no one would risk drinking and driving. Those that do, the hard core alcoholics, will eventually be caught and then sit and rot in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It will never happen. There is simply too much money being earned by the DUI industry to actually stop DUIs from happening. Every DUI results in at least a $10k cash infusion from normally law abiding (read &#8211; working and tax paying) citizens. Between all the lawyer fees, fines, special fines, fees, mandates, insurance premiums, and so on, there is a lot of incentive to keep this &#8220;industry&#8221; humming along nicely as it is.</p>
<p>If they really, really, wanted to stop DUIs. Then they would simply give mandatory 20 year prison sentences for the offense. No fines. No money involved to taint the objectiveness of law enforcement.</p>
<p>It may sound harsh, but I guarantee that no one would risk drinking and driving. Those that do, the hard core alcoholics, will eventually be caught and then sit and rot in prison.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tony-e30</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony-e30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue that this is actually a good idea...until they program it to automatically lock all the doors and call the police.</description>
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		<title>By: Qwerty</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-544331</link>
		<dc:creator>Qwerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Take their car away&lt;/em&gt;

I have always liked this.  Take the car, make the debt on the car non-dischargeable in bankruptcy, and make wage garnishment easy.  Americans value their cars so much, the risk of losing them would be a powerful motivation not to drink and drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Take their car away</em></p>
<p>I have always liked this.  Take the car, make the debt on the car non-dischargeable in bankruptcy, and make wage garnishment easy.  Americans value their cars so much, the risk of losing them would be a powerful motivation not to drink and drive.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-544232</link>
		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, this is one of those &quot;moral majority&quot; ideas that sounds great, but doesn&#039;t play out in real life.  It also scuttles more reasonable legislation that would actually address the problem.  

If someone is a chronic drunk driver, they&#039;ll always be so.  They&#039;ll take great pains to retain their ability to do (like, say, by fiendish methods like wearing gloves or bagging sober breath).  People who don&#039;t drive drunk, don&#039;t drive drunk, so this won&#039;t address any problems on that side, either.

Want to stop people drunk-driving?  Take their car away, fine them ten grand and/or throw them in jail.  Coincidentally, this is what Ontario does now for speeding, yet a larger percentage of drunk drivers are involved in fatal accidents than speeders.  Of course, addressing and convicting drunk drivers takes effort (patrol, catch, breathalize, test, require a full BAC, go to court, etc); nabbing and sentencing speeders takes a pull of a trigger.  

It&#039;s like the security stupidity surrounding air travel, post-9/11.  Want to stop another 9/11?  Lock the cockpit door.  Don&#039;t bother with facial recognition software, no-fly lists, banning toothpaste and national ID cards.  Lock the door.  Of course, locking the door doesn&#039;t make security consultants money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Again, this is one of those &#8220;moral majority&#8221; ideas that sounds great, but doesn&#8217;t play out in real life.  It also scuttles more reasonable legislation that would actually address the problem.  </p>
<p>If someone is a chronic drunk driver, they&#8217;ll always be so.  They&#8217;ll take great pains to retain their ability to do (like, say, by fiendish methods like wearing gloves or bagging sober breath).  People who don&#8217;t drive drunk, don&#8217;t drive drunk, so this won&#8217;t address any problems on that side, either.</p>
<p>Want to stop people drunk-driving?  Take their car away, fine them ten grand and/or throw them in jail.  Coincidentally, this is what Ontario does now for speeding, yet a larger percentage of drunk drivers are involved in fatal accidents than speeders.  Of course, addressing and convicting drunk drivers takes effort (patrol, catch, breathalize, test, require a full BAC, go to court, etc); nabbing and sentencing speeders takes a pull of a trigger.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the security stupidity surrounding air travel, post-9/11.  Want to stop another 9/11?  Lock the cockpit door.  Don&#8217;t bother with facial recognition software, no-fly lists, banning toothpaste and national ID cards.  Lock the door.  Of course, locking the door doesn&#8217;t make security consultants money.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people will accept it, like they&#039;ve accepted every other safety nanny.</description>
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		<title>By: Blunozer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/feds-looking-into-mandatory-breathalizers/comment-page-1/#comment-544182</link>
		<dc:creator>Blunozer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another gizmo that&#039;s gonna break and leave you stranded.  

Instead of forcing another safety device on everybody, just come down harder on the actual drunk drivers. 

I say put&#039;em in a jail cell with someone that uses the word &quot;fist&quot; as a verb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Just another gizmo that&#8217;s gonna break and leave you stranded.  </p>
<p>Instead of forcing another safety device on everybody, just come down harder on the actual drunk drivers. </p>
<p>I say put&#8217;em in a jail cell with someone that uses the word &#8220;fist&#8221; as a verb.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SpottyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpottyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would we want to put more (mandatory) cost into vehicles so stupidly? Some people and their crudsades never cease to amaze me. Did they ever think of how easy this would be to defeat? Anyone ever hear of gloves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Why would we want to put more (mandatory) cost into vehicles so stupidly? Some people and their crudsades never cease to amaze me. Did they ever think of how easy this would be to defeat? Anyone ever hear of gloves?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
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		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting perspective from the vonMises Institute:
http://www.mises.org/story/2343</description>
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<a href="http://www.mises.org/story/2343" rel="nofollow">http://www.mises.org/story/2343</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if people who wear way too much perfume will set this thing off since it all has alcohol in it. Does anyone know how these sensors work?

There is going to be a point in our future where freedom is just something refered to in history books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I wonder if people who wear way too much perfume will set this thing off since it all has alcohol in it. Does anyone know how these sensors work?</p>
<p>There is going to be a point in our future where freedom is just something refered to in history books.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Detroit-Iron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Detroit-Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you&#039;re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear&quot;

&quot;Driving is a privilege&quot;

&quot;if it saves just one life&quot;

And finally, a rejoinder commonly attributed to Franklin:

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;If you&#8217;re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Driving is a privilege&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;if it saves just one life&#8221;</p>
<p>And finally, a rejoinder commonly attributed to Franklin:</p>
<p>Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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