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		<title>By: kurtamaxxguy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1507248</link>
		<dc:creator>kurtamaxxguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Points and old school distributors rewarded me many hours of timing adjustments and installing electronic point-preservers.  It&#039;s good not to have to fool around with that any more.

But maintenance remains important. You still have filters to clean, fluids to check/change, etc.  Yourself, or a qualified technician can do those.  

Ignoring those basics will eventually result in an undriveable or severely damaged vehicle.  Service techs I know have told me they get customers who have not changed oil in +10 K miles, then wondered why their engines were ruined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Points and old school distributors rewarded me many hours of timing adjustments and installing electronic point-preservers.  It&#8217;s good not to have to fool around with that any more.</p>
<p>But maintenance remains important. You still have filters to clean, fluids to check/change, etc.  Yourself, or a qualified technician can do those.  </p>
<p>Ignoring those basics will eventually result in an undriveable or severely damaged vehicle.  Service techs I know have told me they get customers who have not changed oil in +10 K miles, then wondered why their engines were ruined.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: thoots</title>
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		<dc:creator>thoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been driving Toyotas since the 1969 Corona I had in high school.  Apologies, but I&#039;ve just never had any of this &quot;broken down on the side of the road&quot; business.  And that&#039;s a big part of why I continue to buy Toyotas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve been driving Toyotas since the 1969 Corona I had in high school.  Apologies, but I&#8217;ve just never had any of this &#8220;broken down on the side of the road&#8221; business.  And that&#8217;s a big part of why I continue to buy Toyotas.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1507167</link>
		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course nobody wants an unreliable ride.  But the point that there is a complete loss of connection with the machine cannot be understated.  As a kid, I also had and old car (72 Fury) but I did not really have to work on it out of need because I was fortunate enough that my father was willing to pay for all repairs and maintenance.  However, I was drawn into tinkering out of curiosity, not economics.  I began to enter an intimate relationship with the car; I was able to identify problems often before they might put me on the side of the road (only once in 200K of driving, all for a stuck carb float).  Fast forward to today, I still have a sense of involvement with my cars, though there are certain things that are beyond my ability.  But I still do all my own maintenance, I bought own my own scan tool, and perform most repairs.  I certainly could pay a &quot;professional&quot; to do all the work, but I choose not to for most repairs.  And when your regular mechanic knows that you are knowledgeable, you are way less likely to get ripped off when you do chose the &quot;do if for my&quot; route.  And that is important.  The stories I hear about how people get ripped off are crazy  Knowledge is power.  The more you know, the less of a target you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Of course nobody wants an unreliable ride.  But the point that there is a complete loss of connection with the machine cannot be understated.  As a kid, I also had and old car (72 Fury) but I did not really have to work on it out of need because I was fortunate enough that my father was willing to pay for all repairs and maintenance.  However, I was drawn into tinkering out of curiosity, not economics.  I began to enter an intimate relationship with the car; I was able to identify problems often before they might put me on the side of the road (only once in 200K of driving, all for a stuck carb float).  Fast forward to today, I still have a sense of involvement with my cars, though there are certain things that are beyond my ability.  But I still do all my own maintenance, I bought own my own scan tool, and perform most repairs.  I certainly could pay a &#8220;professional&#8221; to do all the work, but I choose not to for most repairs.  And when your regular mechanic knows that you are knowledgeable, you are way less likely to get ripped off when you do chose the &#8220;do if for my&#8221; route.  And that is important.  The stories I hear about how people get ripped off are crazy  Knowledge is power.  The more you know, the less of a target you are.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: zerofoo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1507162</link>
		<dc:creator>zerofoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked in a car audio shop while I was in college, and it was common to see cars with the trunks loaded up with tools, coolant, oil, grease, extra belts etc.

Through the years, I&#039;ve stopped by the old shop and noticed that almost no one carries extra parts and tools around anymore...classic car guys excluded.

Engineering, cell phones, and AAA have almost eliminated the &quot;roadside mechanic&quot;.

-ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I worked in a car audio shop while I was in college, and it was common to see cars with the trunks loaded up with tools, coolant, oil, grease, extra belts etc.</p>
<p>Through the years, I&#8217;ve stopped by the old shop and noticed that almost no one carries extra parts and tools around anymore&#8230;classic car guys excluded.</p>
<p>Engineering, cell phones, and AAA have almost eliminated the &#8220;roadside mechanic&#8221;.</p>
<p>-ted<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: zenith</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1506978</link>
		<dc:creator>zenith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole thread reminds me of a conversation I had in &#039;97 with a co-worker concerning how little time I was spending fiddling under car hoods since my entire &quot;fleet&quot; was finally free of carbs and distributors.

He said, &quot;You need some adventure in your life. I&#039;ve got an AMF-era Harley that&#039;ll put grease back under your fingernails.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This whole thread reminds me of a conversation I had in &#8216;97 with a co-worker concerning how little time I was spending fiddling under car hoods since my entire &#8220;fleet&#8221; was finally free of carbs and distributors.</p>
<p>He said, &#8220;You need some adventure in your life. I&#8217;ve got an AMF-era Harley that&#8217;ll put grease back under your fingernails.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: wsn</title>
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		<dc:creator>wsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only time I was stranded was when my father was about to purchase a new Camry to replace his 13 year old Corolla.

That Corolla broke down, for the first time ever, on our way to the Toyota dealership. Fortunately, it&#039;s only a 10 minute walk to our house. It&#039;s turns out to be a failed alternator. So, next day, the fixed Corolla (with no power steering) fetched $3000 in trade in for a new Camry.

My family concluded that somehow the Corolla knew we were about to sell it and went on strike for the first and last time.

Who says the Corolla doesn&#039;t have a soul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The only time I was stranded was when my father was about to purchase a new Camry to replace his 13 year old Corolla.</p>
<p>That Corolla broke down, for the first time ever, on our way to the Toyota dealership. Fortunately, it&#8217;s only a 10 minute walk to our house. It&#8217;s turns out to be a failed alternator. So, next day, the fixed Corolla (with no power steering) fetched $3000 in trade in for a new Camry.</p>
<p>My family concluded that somehow the Corolla knew we were about to sell it and went on strike for the first and last time.</p>
<p>Who says the Corolla doesn&#8217;t have a soul?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tuckerdawg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1506532</link>
		<dc:creator>tuckerdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to keep a bicycle in the trunk of my car for this reason...</description>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1506190</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have two aircooled VWs and are using them to educate our two young sons. I think any guy ought to be able to take care of his family&#039;s needs and part of that means keeping the cars fixed. For some guys that means making enough money to replace their vehicles often or take them to the dealer. For others like me that means knowing how to replace the engine with a donor or even rebuild it. Huge time sucker to work on a flaky car but a huge money saver too. 

I&#039;ve lived with daily drivers that ranged from an unrestored &#039;49 Chevy p/u (in 1999) to carb&#039;d motorcycles year round in TN weather to very high mileage cars and the parts that need to be replaced from time to time. With enough experience most failures can be detected and planned for well in advance. I no longer rely on used parts when possible b/c that partly worn out part is going to wear out sooner rather than later. Using this method my two high mileage vehicles are getting more reliable instead of the other way around... VBG!

Driving an old car just requires more maintenance more often and a little planning ahead in case the engine vapor locks or some guy wants to tell you all about the old truck his Daddy had that looks alot like your truck. Or the aircooled VW that doesn&#039;t climb the hills very fast. Or the old car with drum brakes that can&#039;t safely go down the mountain at the same fast pace as a modern sports car. 

FWIW though I prefer my daily drivers to be reliable and ready to go when I am so I keep them well maintained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We have two aircooled VWs and are using them to educate our two young sons. I think any guy ought to be able to take care of his family&#8217;s needs and part of that means keeping the cars fixed. For some guys that means making enough money to replace their vehicles often or take them to the dealer. For others like me that means knowing how to replace the engine with a donor or even rebuild it. Huge time sucker to work on a flaky car but a huge money saver too. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lived with daily drivers that ranged from an unrestored &#8216;49 Chevy p/u (in 1999) to carb&#8217;d motorcycles year round in TN weather to very high mileage cars and the parts that need to be replaced from time to time. With enough experience most failures can be detected and planned for well in advance. I no longer rely on used parts when possible b/c that partly worn out part is going to wear out sooner rather than later. Using this method my two high mileage vehicles are getting more reliable instead of the other way around&#8230; VBG!</p>
<p>Driving an old car just requires more maintenance more often and a little planning ahead in case the engine vapor locks or some guy wants to tell you all about the old truck his Daddy had that looks alot like your truck. Or the aircooled VW that doesn&#8217;t climb the hills very fast. Or the old car with drum brakes that can&#8217;t safely go down the mountain at the same fast pace as a modern sports car. </p>
<p>FWIW though I prefer my daily drivers to be reliable and ready to go when I am so I keep them well maintained.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kowsnofskia</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1506098</link>
		<dc:creator>kowsnofskia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more than just improvements in car technology that have made being stranded less dreadful than it was in the past; it&#039;s also the development of peripheral technologies like cell phones, portable GPS units, etc. Remember when breaking down on a deserted section of highway often meant a long walk to the next exit? Well, now you just bust out your cell phone and you&#039;re all set (assuming you have signal, that is). 

And with the advent of GPS units, Mapquest, etc getting lost has become much less of an issue than it was before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s more than just improvements in car technology that have made being stranded less dreadful than it was in the past; it&#8217;s also the development of peripheral technologies like cell phones, portable GPS units, etc. Remember when breaking down on a deserted section of highway often meant a long walk to the next exit? Well, now you just bust out your cell phone and you&#8217;re all set (assuming you have signal, that is). </p>
<p>And with the advent of GPS units, Mapquest, etc getting lost has become much less of an issue than it was before.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-roll-right-through/comment-page-1/#comment-1506009</link>
		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can appreciate both sides of the &quot;argument&quot; that has been formed here in the comments. I love having a reliable car that gets you to your destination with no fuss or muss. But those times when you have to persevere thru a problem and depend on your own wits and resources are character building events that stay with you for a lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I can appreciate both sides of the &#8220;argument&#8221; that has been formed here in the comments. I love having a reliable car that gets you to your destination with no fuss or muss. But those times when you have to persevere thru a problem and depend on your own wits and resources are character building events that stay with you for a lifetime.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thursday morning,  my son and I are  driving  from Hartford to Mississaga ON in  his  83  533i,  It will  have my  toolkit and  a few spares  in the trunk. 
In  &#039;96, I bought an 88 528e with 150k miles on it.  I drove  the  Borman6 for 11 yrs and   put 200k  on it. In that time, the only  thing  that   broke was   the throttle cable  and I had one in  the trunk. 20 minutes  and   my son  had   it back  on  the  road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thursday morning,  my son and I are  driving  from Hartford to Mississaga ON in  his  83  533i,  It will  have my  toolkit and  a few spares  in the trunk.<br />
In  &#8216;96, I bought an 88 528e with 150k miles on it.  I drove  the  Borman6 for 11 yrs and   put 200k  on it. In that time, the only  thing  that   broke was   the throttle cable  and I had one in  the trunk. 20 minutes  and   my son  had   it back  on  the  road.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: blowfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>blowfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Crappy tires&#039; Service /repair dept were Horrible. Kind of eat u alive.
Way under paid their Mechanics/ Technicians  so they need to find more things wrong with your car kind of padded up the bills.

In the old days, Crappy tires were totally intransigence, if u wanna to order a part where they dont have it in stock, u need to go there paid for it first. Can u use your plastic card to order over the phone? No dice. So u need to arrive at the store to pay for it plastic or cash then wait patiently for it to arrive and pick it up there. Is hard if your only car is not working at that very moment.
Anyways now there&#039;re many other types of parts stores around u no need to deal with Mr. Parts Nazi anymore. 
They do get bigger now in store footage, but also closing many smaller stores. So kind of gave more opportunity to other competitors.

Another annoying issue is they hire high school kids to run the parts counter. They only knew how to operate the computer and nothing else, whatever is not listed in there = u cannot buy it. Is nothing wrong to give HS kids a chance to learn, but when u need some advice, u feel more lost than them, I am sure they are even more frightened when ask these difficult questions. 
They should either properly train them or hire some more experienced person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I heard Crappy tires&#8217; Service /repair dept were Horrible. Kind of eat u alive.<br />
Way under paid their Mechanics/ Technicians  so they need to find more things wrong with your car kind of padded up the bills.</p>
<p>In the old days, Crappy tires were totally intransigence, if u wanna to order a part where they dont have it in stock, u need to go there paid for it first. Can u use your plastic card to order over the phone? No dice. So u need to arrive at the store to pay for it plastic or cash then wait patiently for it to arrive and pick it up there. Is hard if your only car is not working at that very moment.<br />
Anyways now there&#8217;re many other types of parts stores around u no need to deal with Mr. Parts Nazi anymore.<br />
They do get bigger now in store footage, but also closing many smaller stores. So kind of gave more opportunity to other competitors.</p>
<p>Another annoying issue is they hire high school kids to run the parts counter. They only knew how to operate the computer and nothing else, whatever is not listed in there = u cannot buy it. Is nothing wrong to give HS kids a chance to learn, but when u need some advice, u feel more lost than them, I am sure they are even more frightened when ask these difficult questions.<br />
They should either properly train them or hire some more experienced person.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mike66Chryslers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike66Chryslers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CarShark:  I had to google &quot;Godwin rule&quot; to figure out what you were talking about.  Excuse me for trying to finish off my comment with something a little pointed.  :P

Just to bring this back to the topic of cars:  ...and that&#039;s why I don&#039;t like the Toyota Prius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->CarShark:  I had to google &#8220;Godwin rule&#8221; to figure out what you were talking about.  Excuse me for trying to finish off my comment with something a little pointed.  :P</p>
<p>Just to bring this back to the topic of cars:  &#8230;and that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t like the Toyota Prius.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Martin Albright nailed it.  

That said, I recall reading the owners manual of my brothers &#039;62 Lark.  The manual advised that in the case of engine overheating, pull over and wait a while until it cools off.   

In &#039;62 people might have had time to pull over and wait.   Not today.  Even if one was willing, imagine a cop&#039;s reaction - no way are you just going to sit by the side of the road for a half an hour or more.   You&#039;ll have a tow truck whether you want one or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think Martin Albright nailed it.  </p>
<p>That said, I recall reading the owners manual of my brothers &#8216;62 Lark.  The manual advised that in the case of engine overheating, pull over and wait a while until it cools off.   </p>
<p>In &#8216;62 people might have had time to pull over and wait.   Not today.  Even if one was willing, imagine a cop&#8217;s reaction &#8211; no way are you just going to sit by the side of the road for a half an hour or more.   You&#8217;ll have a tow truck whether you want one or not.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: CarShark</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarShark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Electronics may be able to perform the job of controlling an engine much better than the pressure/vacuum, electromechanical and mechanical systems they have replaced, but computers are soulless in their perfection.&lt;/em&gt;

I think there should be some Godwin rule appropriate for using the word &quot;soulless&quot; when describing a car. It&#039;s such a default position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Electronics may be able to perform the job of controlling an engine much better than the pressure/vacuum, electromechanical and mechanical systems they have replaced, but computers are soulless in their perfection.</em></p>
<p>I think there should be some Godwin rule appropriate for using the word &#8220;soulless&#8221; when describing a car. It&#8217;s such a default position.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@psarhjinian

&lt;em&gt;when Windows goes bad, it really goes bad&lt;/em&gt;

Having used Windows since 3.1... when it actually went GOOD?

Honestly, Windows started working decently since NT, 2000 or XP, the last one enjoyed by most people.

Up to the advent of NT based Windows, you ALWAYS prayed the stupid thing not to crash. And saved frequently your work, which I currently still do.</description>
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<p><em>when Windows goes bad, it really goes bad</em></p>
<p>Having used Windows since 3.1&#8230; when it actually went GOOD?</p>
<p>Honestly, Windows started working decently since NT, 2000 or XP, the last one enjoyed by most people.</p>
<p>Up to the advent of NT based Windows, you ALWAYS prayed the stupid thing not to crash. And saved frequently your work, which I currently still do.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Goolsbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Goolsbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great writeup. 

This is one reason why I love to &lt;em&gt;travel&lt;/em&gt; an old car. Mind you I said &quot;travel&quot; not &quot;commute&quot; or &quot;drive&quot;... for daily driver type stuff I prefer a reliable new(ish) car. But for long trips, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-1965-jaguar-e-type/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the old car wins&lt;/a&gt;, hands down. It really is more about the journey, not the destination. Many of my trips are just that... long drives without a real destination. The last few summers I&#039;ve driven the old Jaguar around Montana, Idaho, BC &amp; Alberta. This summer I&#039;m driving down and back up the Pacific Coast with my two sons (oldest southbound, youngest northbound - swapping them by plane in LA.) No schedule except their flights. No real plan beyond following our nose with a few changes of clothes, and a box of tools &amp; spares. If the car breaks, we&#039;ll fix it. If it doesn&#039;t that&#039;s fine too.

We leave in mid-July (12th-14th), and you&#039;re all welcome to follow along on &lt;a href=&quot;http://chuck.goolsbee.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my website&lt;/a&gt;. Should be a blast.

--chuck</description>
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<p>This is one reason why I love to <em>travel</em> an old car. Mind you I said &#8220;travel&#8221; not &#8220;commute&#8221; or &#8220;drive&#8221;&#8230; for daily driver type stuff I prefer a reliable new(ish) car. But for long trips, <a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-1965-jaguar-e-type/" rel="nofollow">the old car wins</a>, hands down. It really is more about the journey, not the destination. Many of my trips are just that&#8230; long drives without a real destination. The last few summers I&#8217;ve driven the old Jaguar around Montana, Idaho, BC &amp; Alberta. This summer I&#8217;m driving down and back up the Pacific Coast with my two sons (oldest southbound, youngest northbound &#8211; swapping them by plane in LA.) No schedule except their flights. No real plan beyond following our nose with a few changes of clothes, and a box of tools &amp; spares. If the car breaks, we&#8217;ll fix it. If it doesn&#8217;t that&#8217;s fine too.</p>
<p>We leave in mid-July (12th-14th), and you&#8217;re all welcome to follow along on <a href="http://chuck.goolsbee.org" rel="nofollow">my website</a>. Should be a blast.</p>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s great that you have all that knowledge and experience now

but by your own admission, its useless with today&#039;s cars, cell phones, GPS, onstar, and AAA</description>
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		<title>By: Robstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70 Chevelle SS454&gt;

You are correct -- I&#039;m not an expert on women either :)</description>
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<p>You are correct &#8212; I&#8217;m not an expert on women either :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 70 Chevelle SS454</title>
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		<dc:creator>70 Chevelle SS454</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Robstar :&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I’m not an expert on cars OR bikes...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or women, apparently.</description>
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<blockquote><p><i>I’m not an expert on cars OR bikes&#8230;</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mike66Chryslers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike66Chryslers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 to Mr.Sutherland.  I think I know where he&#039;s coming from.  It&#039;s not about getting stranded at the side of the road, it&#039;s about being able to get UN-stranded without a towtruck ride to some garage.

I&#039;m an electronics Engineer in my mid-30s and I own (and have mecnanically restored) several old cars, and my viewpoint is similarly tempered.  For me at least, there&#039;s a certain satisfaction in diagnosing and repairing a problem that doesn&#039;t involve plugging-in a scantool.

When I see an old car, an old prop plane, steam locomotive, etc. still in operation, it gives me the warm fuzzies because I know that it&#039;s because someone understands and loves their machine.  I understand and appreciate modern technology as an Engineer, but it doesn&#039;t evoke that feeling (unless it&#039;s something I designed myself).

Electronics may be able to perform the job of controlling an engine much better than the pressure/vacuum, electromechanical and mechanical systems they have replaced, but computers are soulless in their perfection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->+1 to Mr.Sutherland.  I think I know where he&#8217;s coming from.  It&#8217;s not about getting stranded at the side of the road, it&#8217;s about being able to get UN-stranded without a towtruck ride to some garage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an electronics Engineer in my mid-30s and I own (and have mecnanically restored) several old cars, and my viewpoint is similarly tempered.  For me at least, there&#8217;s a certain satisfaction in diagnosing and repairing a problem that doesn&#8217;t involve plugging-in a scantool.</p>
<p>When I see an old car, an old prop plane, steam locomotive, etc. still in operation, it gives me the warm fuzzies because I know that it&#8217;s because someone understands and loves their machine.  I understand and appreciate modern technology as an Engineer, but it doesn&#8217;t evoke that feeling (unless it&#8217;s something I designed myself).</p>
<p>Electronics may be able to perform the job of controlling an engine much better than the pressure/vacuum, electromechanical and mechanical systems they have replaced, but computers are soulless in their perfection.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Albright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Albright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides all of the above comments, anyone who &lt;strong&gt;really &lt;/strong&gt;craves the &quot;excitement&quot; of being stranded by the side of the road and the &quot;thrill&quot; of trying to diagnose an intermittent electrical problem during a blizzard can zip over to craigslist.org and find an infinite number of trouble prone hoopties in various states of decay to satisfy their fondest MacGyver wishes.   And most of them can be had for a song (some of them for nothing as in &quot;just get this heap out of my garage/driveway/street.&quot;)  

That Mr. Sutherland has apparently not done so (at least as I gather from the article) tells me that duct-tape-and-bailing-wire repairs are a lot more fun to reminisce about than they are to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Besides all of the above comments, anyone who <strong>really </strong>craves the &#8220;excitement&#8221; of being stranded by the side of the road and the &#8220;thrill&#8221; of trying to diagnose an intermittent electrical problem during a blizzard can zip over to craigslist.org and find an infinite number of trouble prone hoopties in various states of decay to satisfy their fondest MacGyver wishes.   And most of them can be had for a song (some of them for nothing as in &#8220;just get this heap out of my garage/driveway/street.&#8221;)  </p>
<p>That Mr. Sutherland has apparently not done so (at least as I gather from the article) tells me that duct-tape-and-bailing-wire repairs are a lot more fun to reminisce about than they are to do.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Today’s cell phone-wielding, speed-dialing AAA members will have no idea what Im talking about. In the olden days, a breakdown mandated an immediate, hands-on mechanical inspection.&lt;/em&gt;

It also happened far, far more often.  Old cars were, for all their simplicity and ease of maintenance, quite crude and problematic.  People don&#039;t know this because, quite frankly, they don&#039;t need to put up with that kind of crap any longer** 

Take the carbuerator (please, ba-dum-boom!).  When that anachronistic lump of metal was excised from the engine bays of cars everywhere, all sorts of problems just up and vanished.  Between that and the need to continually make sure the engine&#039;s timing wasn&#039;t off, cars are quite simply better.  With that improvement in precision comes these side-effects:
* People don&#039;t need to know what to do, nor should they be expected to.  Just like computer users today shouldn&#039;t be expected to put up with crap like editing CONFIG.SYS.
* When something goes wrong, the precision of the machine means it&#039;s not as easy to fix with a few hand tools on the side of the road.  Again, to stretch the computer analogy: when Windows goes bad, it really goes bad.

I&#039;d consider this a good thing, on the whole. Once cars became an appliance and not a hobby for me, cleaning carbs and screwing with timing and checking fouled plugs and all the crap that went with an older car became decidedly less amusing.  Fixing a side-of-the-road incident when you&#039;re a single teenager is one thing; as a parent with two toddlers in tow, it&#039;s quite another.  I&#039;ll call CAA, thanks.</description>
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<p>It also happened far, far more often.  Old cars were, for all their simplicity and ease of maintenance, quite crude and problematic.  People don&#8217;t know this because, quite frankly, they don&#8217;t need to put up with that kind of crap any longer** </p>
<p>Take the carbuerator (please, ba-dum-boom!).  When that anachronistic lump of metal was excised from the engine bays of cars everywhere, all sorts of problems just up and vanished.  Between that and the need to continually make sure the engine&#8217;s timing wasn&#8217;t off, cars are quite simply better.  With that improvement in precision comes these side-effects:<br />
* People don&#8217;t need to know what to do, nor should they be expected to.  Just like computer users today shouldn&#8217;t be expected to put up with crap like editing CONFIG.SYS.<br />
* When something goes wrong, the precision of the machine means it&#8217;s not as easy to fix with a few hand tools on the side of the road.  Again, to stretch the computer analogy: when Windows goes bad, it really goes bad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d consider this a good thing, on the whole. Once cars became an appliance and not a hobby for me, cleaning carbs and screwing with timing and checking fouled plugs and all the crap that went with an older car became decidedly less amusing.  Fixing a side-of-the-road incident when you&#8217;re a single teenager is one thing; as a parent with two toddlers in tow, it&#8217;s quite another.  I&#8217;ll call CAA, thanks.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: shaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up until I was 35, every car I ever owned had me under it or over it, hands coated with grease and sometimes, blood.

I remember that in 1976, I had a girl out on a date in my (recently purchased used) &#039;67 Chevelle, and the tranny got stuck in 1st and 3rd at a red light because of the cheap 4-speed shifter that the previous owner had installed in it - I had to get out and crawl underneath to set the linkages to &quot;neutral&quot;, while horns blared. You&#039;d think the chick would have been impressed at my quick thinking and mechanical prowess... but nooo, she was pissed at me having a crappy car.

So goes my life. Replaced girl, then bushings later on.</description>
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<p>I remember that in 1976, I had a girl out on a date in my (recently purchased used) &#8216;67 Chevelle, and the tranny got stuck in 1st and 3rd at a red light because of the cheap 4-speed shifter that the previous owner had installed in it &#8211; I had to get out and crawl underneath to set the linkages to &#8220;neutral&#8221;, while horns blared. You&#8217;d think the chick would have been impressed at my quick thinking and mechanical prowess&#8230; but nooo, she was pissed at me having a crappy car.</p>
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		<title>By: golf4me</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had (still have actually) a 1979 Chevy LUV. Nothing electronic except the radio. Used to take it up skiing (about 160 miles of 7% grades)which means full throttle, and I&#039;d have to A)set points twice B)fiddle with the mixture on the carb b/c it didn&#039;t adjust for altitude (7k change). That was on stuff that wasn&#039;t really broken. There were other things that were in poor repair that I&#039;d have to fiddle with on the side of the road. Knew every tool I needed for the entire truck, and they were few, so always had a kit with me. To this day my friends call me Macgyver (sp?) because they were always amazed that I knew exactly what to do to keep that baby running. We still laugh about those trips to this day...25 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Had (still have actually) a 1979 Chevy LUV. Nothing electronic except the radio. Used to take it up skiing (about 160 miles of 7% grades)which means full throttle, and I&#8217;d have to A)set points twice B)fiddle with the mixture on the carb b/c it didn&#8217;t adjust for altitude (7k change). That was on stuff that wasn&#8217;t really broken. There were other things that were in poor repair that I&#8217;d have to fiddle with on the side of the road. Knew every tool I needed for the entire truck, and they were few, so always had a kit with me. To this day my friends call me Macgyver (sp?) because they were always amazed that I knew exactly what to do to keep that baby running. We still laugh about those trips to this day&#8230;25 years later.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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