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	<title>Comments on: Curbside Classics: 1970 Plymouth Duster 340</title>
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		<title>By: ole timer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ole timer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking for a 70 Duster like the one from my early days.  340 4spd. 391 posi. rear end.  Black on black w/black pin stripes.  The ones I have looked at are advertised as &quot;stock, original, etc&quot; but most have drum brakes, ( disc was standard on the 340 car), wrong dash, wrong year grill, spoilers, ( not even a option on the 70 to my knowledge), on and on. thanks for the article.</description>
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		<title>By: Bizjetfixr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bizjetfixr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a 340 four speed car &quot;back in the day&quot;.....since 1977, I&#039;ve had a Duster/Dart Sport around somewhere, currently (semi-)daily driving a 73 DartSport/340/auto........and I&#039;ve NEVER had a mullet.

All the attention is focused on the 426 and 440-6 cars, but the reality is that it was the 340 and 440-4 cars that MADE CHRYSLER&#039;S REP ON THE STREET!!!!!  You hardly ever even saw the Hemi and 440-6 cars, and they raced even less.  Mostly, they sat around with their hoods opened, when they bothered to come out at all.

The 340/A-body was a great combination.....everything else Chrysler made was too heavy for a small-block, and needed a big block to motivate properly.  The NHRA Pro Stock guys figured out the same thing by 1972 (back when Pro Stock was based on REAL CARS) 

Since finishing the 73 DS, I&#039;ve noticed:

-Yeah, it&#039;s noisy.....wind noise, suspension noise on rough pavement, overassisted steering.  But it&#039;s a nice drive out on the Interstate, and the engine soundtrack makes up for many sins.  And, depending on how willing you are to modify one, a lot of these issues can be addressed.

-It&#039;s got massive amounts of room.  I&#039;m 6&#039;5&quot;, and it&#039;s the most comfortable car I own.  
Now if I can just figure out a way to modify the seat backs, so the rake is adjustable.....

-EVERYBODY loves Dusters/Dart Sports.....you meet all kinds of new friends every time you drive it. (unfortunately about 99% guys........although 16-18 year old high school girls seem to like it too).  From 5 year old kids, to high school kids who know what the &quot;H&quot; in the VIN means, to the 70 year old who told me about how he and his buddy got back from Vietnam, bought a 340 Duster in California, and drove it cross-country to their new duty station in Virginia.

-These old cars are dirt cheap to fix, and easy to work on in the driveway.  And the stuff you have to farm out (like auto trans rebuilds) are dirt cheap as well, compared to fixing the new stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had a 340 four speed car &#8220;back in the day&#8221;&#8230;..since 1977, I&#8217;ve had a Duster/Dart Sport around somewhere, currently (semi-)daily driving a 73 DartSport/340/auto&#8230;&#8230;..and I&#8217;ve NEVER had a mullet.</p>
<p>All the attention is focused on the 426 and 440-6 cars, but the reality is that it was the 340 and 440-4 cars that MADE CHRYSLER&#8217;S REP ON THE STREET!!!!!  You hardly ever even saw the Hemi and 440-6 cars, and they raced even less.  Mostly, they sat around with their hoods opened, when they bothered to come out at all.</p>
<p>The 340/A-body was a great combination&#8230;..everything else Chrysler made was too heavy for a small-block, and needed a big block to motivate properly.  The NHRA Pro Stock guys figured out the same thing by 1972 (back when Pro Stock was based on REAL CARS) </p>
<p>Since finishing the 73 DS, I&#8217;ve noticed:</p>
<p>-Yeah, it&#8217;s noisy&#8230;..wind noise, suspension noise on rough pavement, overassisted steering.  But it&#8217;s a nice drive out on the Interstate, and the engine soundtrack makes up for many sins.  And, depending on how willing you are to modify one, a lot of these issues can be addressed.</p>
<p>-It&#8217;s got massive amounts of room.  I&#8217;m 6&#8242;5&#8243;, and it&#8217;s the most comfortable car I own.<br />
Now if I can just figure out a way to modify the seat backs, so the rake is adjustable&#8230;..</p>
<p>-EVERYBODY loves Dusters/Dart Sports&#8230;..you meet all kinds of new friends every time you drive it. (unfortunately about 99% guys&#8230;&#8230;..although 16-18 year old high school girls seem to like it too).  From 5 year old kids, to high school kids who know what the &#8220;H&#8221; in the VIN means, to the 70 year old who told me about how he and his buddy got back from Vietnam, bought a 340 Duster in California, and drove it cross-country to their new duty station in Virginia.</p>
<p>-These old cars are dirt cheap to fix, and easy to work on in the driveway.  And the stuff you have to farm out (like auto trans rebuilds) are dirt cheap as well, compared to fixing the new stuff.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1970 Duster 340 was the true heir apparent to the legendary 1968 Roadrunner (which, by 1970, was beginning to get expensive as dealers/buyers loaded them up with options and the base cars got more and more decontented). The high-winding small-block was every bit as fast as the base 383 Roadrunner for less coin and was better equipped (by 1970, the Roadrunner was reducted to a standard 3-speed and drum brakes, while the Duster 340 came with a 4-speed and discs). For street cred on the cheap, it just didn&#039;t get much better than the Duster 340. The only other compact musclecars that would ever come close would be the &#039;66-&#039;67 small-block Novas or the later big-block versions, or Chrysler&#039;s own late sixties&#039; Dart GTS or Swinger 340 (but not the big-blocks - the engine bays of Chrysler&#039;s compacts could never take them without serious, horsepower-limiting compromises). Ford never had any kind of decent compact musclecar while poor AMC had a competent (but short-lived) run with the 1969 SC/Rambler.


Although the Roadrunner gets all the fame for originating the bargain-basement musclecar, in actuality, the Duster 340 was, by far, the most successful of the breed, easily eclipsing the Roadrunner&#039;s best sales years. In fact, Chrysler&#039;s overlapping musclecars cannibalized significant sales from their own marques. It&#039;s an obvious conclusion that the success of the Duster 340 was a contributing factor to the demise of the rest of the Mopar musclecar line-up.

As a footnote, it&#039;s worth mentioning that one of the original names kicked around for the Duster 340 was simply &#039;CK&#039; as in &#039;Clark Kent&#039;. Plymouth&#039;s art department even came up with a phone booth picture with a Superman-style cape for use as an underhood pad. Fortunately, they went with the much more palatable Duster emblem which, in and of itself, was a thinly disguised rip-off of the Warner Bros Tazmanian Devil. Apparently, as Chrysler had gotten the rights to the Roadrunner cartoon for a relatively small amount and the car was a huge success, Warner Bros. wasn&#039;t about to let them use another of their cartoon characters for nearly as cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The 1970 Duster 340 was the true heir apparent to the legendary 1968 Roadrunner (which, by 1970, was beginning to get expensive as dealers/buyers loaded them up with options and the base cars got more and more decontented). The high-winding small-block was every bit as fast as the base 383 Roadrunner for less coin and was better equipped (by 1970, the Roadrunner was reducted to a standard 3-speed and drum brakes, while the Duster 340 came with a 4-speed and discs). For street cred on the cheap, it just didn&#8217;t get much better than the Duster 340. The only other compact musclecars that would ever come close would be the &#8216;66-&#8217;67 small-block Novas or the later big-block versions, or Chrysler&#8217;s own late sixties&#8217; Dart GTS or Swinger 340 (but not the big-blocks &#8211; the engine bays of Chrysler&#8217;s compacts could never take them without serious, horsepower-limiting compromises). Ford never had any kind of decent compact musclecar while poor AMC had a competent (but short-lived) run with the 1969 SC/Rambler.</p>
<p>Although the Roadrunner gets all the fame for originating the bargain-basement musclecar, in actuality, the Duster 340 was, by far, the most successful of the breed, easily eclipsing the Roadrunner&#8217;s best sales years. In fact, Chrysler&#8217;s overlapping musclecars cannibalized significant sales from their own marques. It&#8217;s an obvious conclusion that the success of the Duster 340 was a contributing factor to the demise of the rest of the Mopar musclecar line-up.</p>
<p>As a footnote, it&#8217;s worth mentioning that one of the original names kicked around for the Duster 340 was simply &#8216;CK&#8217; as in &#8216;Clark Kent&#8217;. Plymouth&#8217;s art department even came up with a phone booth picture with a Superman-style cape for use as an underhood pad. Fortunately, they went with the much more palatable Duster emblem which, in and of itself, was a thinly disguised rip-off of the Warner Bros Tazmanian Devil. Apparently, as Chrysler had gotten the rights to the Roadrunner cartoon for a relatively small amount and the car was a huge success, Warner Bros. wasn&#8217;t about to let them use another of their cartoon characters for nearly as cheap.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@davey49
My parents had the &#039;70 Valiant, and then a &#039;76 Volare wagon. I don&#039;t even remember the interior materials on the Volare. I do remember how utterly tepid the performance was compared to the Valiant, and how the damn thing stalled repeatedly when it was cold. And I remember how, after the Volare was totaled when my mother was hit from behind on a cold day as she pulled out onto a minor arterial road because the Volare chose that moment to stall, my father said, &quot;We&#039;re well rid of that car!&quot; 

My mechanic friend, Don told me that when he used to get Volares in the shop with the stalling complaint for a second time, they&#039;d drill out something in the carb to prevent the stalling.</description>
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My parents had the &#8216;70 Valiant, and then a &#8216;76 Volare wagon. I don&#8217;t even remember the interior materials on the Volare. I do remember how utterly tepid the performance was compared to the Valiant, and how the damn thing stalled repeatedly when it was cold. And I remember how, after the Volare was totaled when my mother was hit from behind on a cold day as she pulled out onto a minor arterial road because the Volare chose that moment to stall, my father said, &#8220;We&#8217;re well rid of that car!&#8221; </p>
<p>My mechanic friend, Don told me that when he used to get Volares in the shop with the stalling complaint for a second time, they&#8217;d drill out something in the carb to prevent the stalling.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: davey49</title>
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		<dc:creator>davey49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd thing about the Aspen/Volare comments. They were actually much nicer cars and had the desired &quot;nicer interior materials&quot; that people talk in length about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Odd thing about the Aspen/Volare comments. They were actually much nicer cars and had the desired &#8220;nicer interior materials&#8221; that people talk in length about now.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
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		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned to drive on a &quot;73 Scamp.  The six was bulletproof, as was the Torqueflite.  Nothing usually broke on these cars but they did have a couple of weak points.  The rear leaf spring mounts rotted away from the frame, and the radiator sprang leaks every three years.  The problem of wet distributors on the six was because the distributor was located next tot he wheel well and often the person doing the alignment would fail to put back the rubber cover that pegged into the wheel tub.  Hit a puddle and the distributor would becomes soaked.

Best thing about these cars?  The little doors hidden under the dash for &quot;ram air&quot; venting.  A great place to hide the bong!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I learned to drive on a &#8220;73 Scamp.  The six was bulletproof, as was the Torqueflite.  Nothing usually broke on these cars but they did have a couple of weak points.  The rear leaf spring mounts rotted away from the frame, and the radiator sprang leaks every three years.  The problem of wet distributors on the six was because the distributor was located next tot he wheel well and often the person doing the alignment would fail to put back the rubber cover that pegged into the wheel tub.  Hit a puddle and the distributor would becomes soaked.</p>
<p>Best thing about these cars?  The little doors hidden under the dash for &#8220;ram air&#8221; venting.  A great place to hide the bong!!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In &#039;70, my best friend had an electric blue 340-the automatic was just amazing!

 My brother had a &#039;68 Dart 273 auto., complete w/ 13&quot;wheels, that was a dog.

 His &#039;64 dart 225 w/red bucket seats and push button auto was a much classier ride.</description>
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<p> My brother had a &#8216;68 Dart 273 auto., complete w/ 13&#8243;wheels, that was a dog.</p>
<p> His &#8216;64 dart 225 w/red bucket seats and push button auto was a much classier ride.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: obbop</title>
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		<dc:creator>obbop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the Duster shown is a &#039;72 model year.

I forget the exact change in the parking lights within the grille but the tail lights are a dead giveaway.

1972 had the upper/lower tail lights on each side touching, assembled as one unit while 1970 and 1971 had some body sheet metal between the upper/lower portion of the tail lights on each side.

Memory is imperfect.

Wondering how many lids were sucked up the vent and into the blower motor.

Little seeds spewing through the car. Requiring years to find every last one to rid one&#039;s self of evidence.

70-71  http://www.valiant.org/photos/duster.jpg

72 http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/72duster7a.jpg

No biggie, very minor differences between the cars, barring minor trim and the effects of smog devices upon engines, etc.

Didn&#039;t the Duster use torsion bars vice coil springs up front?

Too lazy to research upon the Webaroni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I believe the Duster shown is a &#8216;72 model year.</p>
<p>I forget the exact change in the parking lights within the grille but the tail lights are a dead giveaway.</p>
<p>1972 had the upper/lower tail lights on each side touching, assembled as one unit while 1970 and 1971 had some body sheet metal between the upper/lower portion of the tail lights on each side.</p>
<p>Memory is imperfect.</p>
<p>Wondering how many lids were sucked up the vent and into the blower motor.</p>
<p>Little seeds spewing through the car. Requiring years to find every last one to rid one&#8217;s self of evidence.</p>
<p>70-71  <a href="http://www.valiant.org/photos/duster.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.valiant.org/photos/duster.jpg</a></p>
<p>72 <a href="http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/72duster7a.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/72duster7a.jpg</a></p>
<p>No biggie, very minor differences between the cars, barring minor trim and the effects of smog devices upon engines, etc.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t the Duster use torsion bars vice coil springs up front?</p>
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		<title>By: TonyJZX</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyJZX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never heard or seen of this car

but it looks like something from a tarantino movie so therefore looks like quite the classic

does it have a &#039;pussy wagon&#039; decal on the back?

still, looks like any of the muscle cars of that era... ie. worth quite a bit if restored?</description>
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<p>but it looks like something from a tarantino movie so therefore looks like quite the classic</p>
<p>does it have a &#8216;pussy wagon&#8217; decal on the back?</p>
<p>still, looks like any of the muscle cars of that era&#8230; ie. worth quite a bit if restored?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, excellent review.

Dad had 2 Dart GT, same body as the Duster. We didn&#039;t got the Duster here. I guess they had the 318.

I still remember that he chirped the tyres for my pleasure from time to time, the V8 burble and the dual chrome exhaust tips.</description>
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<p>Dad had 2 Dart GT, same body as the Duster. We didn&#8217;t got the Duster here. I guess they had the 318.</p>
<p>I still remember that he chirped the tyres for my pleasure from time to time, the V8 burble and the dual chrome exhaust tips.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ttacgreg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ttacgreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This still a beautiful car to my eye. This, the W-31 Ooldsmobile, and the 302 z-28 ere my favorites back then.  I liked screaming small (relative to back ten) v-8&#039;s</description>
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		<title>By: Corvair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corvair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same experience as cjdumm. I bought a &#039;71 Duster, and that thing just about ran forever. When my wife needed a new car a few years later, I got her a Volare. What a disaster. Somehow I managed to stay married.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Same experience as cjdumm. I bought a &#8216;71 Duster, and that thing just about ran forever. When my wife needed a new car a few years later, I got her a Volare. What a disaster. Somehow I managed to stay married.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jpcavanaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpcavanaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>psarhjinian :
&lt;em&gt;My dad’s jaw hit the floor when he heard Chrysler was dusting off the Aspen nameplate.&lt;/em&gt;

I will confess to having the same reaction.  But I came to terms with it when I saw that the new one was actually uglier than the old one.  Is it too late to rename the Sebring as the Chrysler Volare?</description>
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<em>My dad’s jaw hit the floor when he heard Chrysler was dusting off the Aspen nameplate.</em></p>
<p>I will confess to having the same reaction.  But I came to terms with it when I saw that the new one was actually uglier than the old one.  Is it too late to rename the Sebring as the Chrysler Volare?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JTParts</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTParts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had 2 1970 Dart swingers at the same time. Car number one had been my mom&#039;s and it was &quot;given&quot; to me dead in the gutter. I new distributor got the 225 going again. Car 2 was a 318 two barrel car, that I put all the typical go fast goodies on. I had them painted in grey primer and would take the six to the street races and line up races then change over to the V8 on the way to the start! only got away with that a few times. Car number two ended up with the 6 in it and car number one got a built up 360 I pulled from a monaco. Reverse manual valve body 727 and a 390 posi were good for 13.30&#039;s. Dad sent that car to the junkyard after I moved out and I have never forgiven him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had 2 1970 Dart swingers at the same time. Car number one had been my mom&#8217;s and it was &#8220;given&#8221; to me dead in the gutter. I new distributor got the 225 going again. Car 2 was a 318 two barrel car, that I put all the typical go fast goodies on. I had them painted in grey primer and would take the six to the street races and line up races then change over to the V8 on the way to the start! only got away with that a few times. Car number two ended up with the 6 in it and car number one got a built up 360 I pulled from a monaco. Reverse manual valve body 727 and a 390 posi were good for 13.30&#8217;s. Dad sent that car to the junkyard after I moved out and I have never forgiven him.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 86er</title>
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		<dc:creator>86er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I always felt that the Scamp had a much more solid, quality feel to it than the Dusters.&lt;/em&gt;

My dad owned a &#039;76 and I can vouch for that.  

Not to mention it was the only car of ours that started on a -40 morning one frosty January day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I always felt that the Scamp had a much more solid, quality feel to it than the Dusters.</em></p>
<p>My dad owned a &#8216;76 and I can vouch for that.  </p>
<p>Not to mention it was the only car of ours that started on a -40 morning one frosty January day.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mattdaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472690</link>
		<dc:creator>mattdaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dad has a Moulin Rouge Duster while I was a kid. He still pines for that car. I still remember my skin burning on the black vinyl seats. He still wishes that was the one car he kept.

Years later they brought that colour back on the Neon. My Dad still cringes about it. Great colour, pink in the day, dark purple almost black at night. A dream for a guy that was an auto paint chemist for CIL/ICI/PPG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My Dad has a Moulin Rouge Duster while I was a kid. He still pines for that car. I still remember my skin burning on the black vinyl seats. He still wishes that was the one car he kept.</p>
<p>Years later they brought that colour back on the Neon. My Dad still cringes about it. Great colour, pink in the day, dark purple almost black at night. A dream for a guy that was an auto paint chemist for CIL/ICI/PPG.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472687</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even Chrysler, btw, has traded on the knuckledragging drooling yahoo with a Duster 340 stereotype. The &quot;that thing got a HEMI?&quot; ads had the rubes driving a dirty old Duster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Even Chrysler, btw, has traded on the knuckledragging drooling yahoo with a Duster 340 stereotype. The &#8220;that thing got a HEMI?&#8221; ads had the rubes driving a dirty old Duster.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472684</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are interesting numbers floating around. According to valiant.org, total Valiant/Duster sales in 1970 were 268,002, with 217,192 being Dusters. Not quite a quater-million Dusters, and certainly not all 340&#039;s, but still a helluva success.

http://www.valiant.org/duster.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->There are interesting numbers floating around. According to valiant.org, total Valiant/Duster sales in 1970 were 268,002, with 217,192 being Dusters. Not quite a quater-million Dusters, and certainly not all 340&#8217;s, but still a helluva success.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.valiant.org/duster.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.valiant.org/duster.html</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geeber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472673</link>
		<dc:creator>geeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;David Holzman: Very interesting. I’m glad they used the funds to create the duster, rather than restyle the Valiant, because that 1970 styling was, in my opinion, the best since the first Valiant. Boxy, yes, but very nicely done, and very crisp and clean. I give it an A.&lt;/i&gt;

The Valiant had a simple, clean style that endured for years. Although the safety bumpers installed on both ends after the 1972 model year didn&#039;t do it any favors. I do prefer the Darts of those years, with the forward-leaning front. 

&lt;i&gt;258exp: A quarter of a million sold in 1970 alone? I think you’re off by an order of magnitude.&lt;/i&gt;

The sales figures I found show that the Duster sold 193,375 units in 1970. The Valiant itself sold 50,810 units, so total Duster/Valiant sales were about a quarter of a million units.

By 1974, total Duster sales were a little over 280,000 units. Adding Valiant and Scamp sales to the mix brought total sales to around 450,000. 

And that doesn&#039;t include Dodge Dart/Swinger/Sport sales.

Chrysler dominated the domestic compact market in the early 1970s. While its total market share was usually about 15-16 percent, it claimed over 30 percent of the compact market. Unfortunately, profits were lower there than in the full-size and intermediate segments, which GM dominated.

When I was a kid, the Mopar compacts were everywhere...kind of like the Civic and the Corolla today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>David Holzman: Very interesting. I’m glad they used the funds to create the duster, rather than restyle the Valiant, because that 1970 styling was, in my opinion, the best since the first Valiant. Boxy, yes, but very nicely done, and very crisp and clean. I give it an A.</i></p>
<p>The Valiant had a simple, clean style that endured for years. Although the safety bumpers installed on both ends after the 1972 model year didn&#8217;t do it any favors. I do prefer the Darts of those years, with the forward-leaning front. </p>
<p><i>258exp: A quarter of a million sold in 1970 alone? I think you’re off by an order of magnitude.</i></p>
<p>The sales figures I found show that the Duster sold 193,375 units in 1970. The Valiant itself sold 50,810 units, so total Duster/Valiant sales were about a quarter of a million units.</p>
<p>By 1974, total Duster sales were a little over 280,000 units. Adding Valiant and Scamp sales to the mix brought total sales to around 450,000. </p>
<p>And that doesn&#8217;t include Dodge Dart/Swinger/Sport sales.</p>
<p>Chrysler dominated the domestic compact market in the early 1970s. While its total market share was usually about 15-16 percent, it claimed over 30 percent of the compact market. Unfortunately, profits were lower there than in the full-size and intermediate segments, which GM dominated.</p>
<p>When I was a kid, the Mopar compacts were everywhere&#8230;kind of like the Civic and the Corolla today.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@285exp,

No I&#039;m not. All Duster sales, not just 340&#039;s.</description>
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<p>No I&#8217;m not. All Duster sales, not just 340&#8217;s.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472666</link>
		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Aspen/Volare was Chrysler’s own version of GM’s X cars...In both cases the companies ended up selling a lot of people unreliable junk and convinced a generation of people that American cars suck.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll testify to this: the Aspen is the reason my parents and grandparents (who owned Chryslers since the Plymouth reviewed a few days ago) dropped Chrysler like a hot rock.  Brief subsequent experiences with the Citation (rental, transmission cracked) and Tempo (bought, returned under lemon suit) only served to drive them right into Toyota&#039;s waiting arms.

My dad&#039;s jaw hit the floor when he heard Chrysler was dusting off the Aspen nameplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The Aspen/Volare was Chrysler’s own version of GM’s X cars&#8230;In both cases the companies ended up selling a lot of people unreliable junk and convinced a generation of people that American cars suck.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll testify to this: the Aspen is the reason my parents and grandparents (who owned Chryslers since the Plymouth reviewed a few days ago) dropped Chrysler like a hot rock.  Brief subsequent experiences with the Citation (rental, transmission cracked) and Tempo (bought, returned under lemon suit) only served to drive them right into Toyota&#8217;s waiting arms.</p>
<p>My dad&#8217;s jaw hit the floor when he heard Chrysler was dusting off the Aspen nameplate.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472661</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Aspen/Volare was Chrysler&#039;s own version of GM&#039;s X cars - poorly developed and heavily hyped bread and butter sedans that replaced very well selling cars late in their development cycles. In both cases the companies ended up selling a lot of people unreliable junk and convinced a generation of people that American cars suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Aspen/Volare was Chrysler&#8217;s own version of GM&#8217;s X cars &#8211; poorly developed and heavily hyped bread and butter sedans that replaced very well selling cars late in their development cycles. In both cases the companies ended up selling a lot of people unreliable junk and convinced a generation of people that American cars suck.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 285exp</title>
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		<dc:creator>285exp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quarter of a million sold in 1970 alone? I think you&#039;re off by an order of magnitude.</description>
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		<title>By: Cerbera LM</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472640</link>
		<dc:creator>Cerbera LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://bringatrailer.com/2009/04/15/neighborhood-menace-73-plymouth-duster-340/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bring A Trailer&lt;/a&gt; posted a Duster 340 last week. Back when I played dodge ball during recess, a high school kid had a 340 with the back end jacked up so the wide Firestones wouldn&#039;t rube the fenders. We thought it was cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href="http://bringatrailer.com/2009/04/15/neighborhood-menace-73-plymouth-duster-340/" rel="nofollow">Bring A Trailer</a> posted a Duster 340 last week. Back when I played dodge ball during recess, a high school kid had a 340 with the back end jacked up so the wide Firestones wouldn&#8217;t rube the fenders. We thought it was cool.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorial-curbside-classics-plymouth-duster-cc/comment-page-1/#comment-1472633</link>
		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Geeber  Interestingly, the original Duster was done on the sly. Plymouth used funds that were appropriated for a restyle of the Valiant to create the Duster. Chrysler brass was initially not too happy when it discovered that Plymouth had created the Duster instead of restyling the Valiant. But the car was given a green light, and ended up as one of the success stories of 1970.&lt;/em&gt;

Very interesting. I&#039;m glad they used the funds to create the duster, rather than restyle the Valiant, because that 1970 styling was, in my opinion, the best since the first Valiant. Boxy, yes, but very nicely done, and very crisp and clean. I give it an A. And much better looking than any of its competitors. It didn&#039;t need to be restyled also because people bought Valiants for the quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Geeber  Interestingly, the original Duster was done on the sly. Plymouth used funds that were appropriated for a restyle of the Valiant to create the Duster. Chrysler brass was initially not too happy when it discovered that Plymouth had created the Duster instead of restyling the Valiant. But the car was given a green light, and ended up as one of the success stories of 1970.</em></p>
<p>Very interesting. I&#8217;m glad they used the funds to create the duster, rather than restyle the Valiant, because that 1970 styling was, in my opinion, the best since the first Valiant. Boxy, yes, but very nicely done, and very crisp and clean. I give it an A. And much better looking than any of its competitors. It didn&#8217;t need to be restyled also because people bought Valiants for the quality.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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