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	<title>Comments on: E85 Boondoggle Of The Day: Cost-Benefit Analysis</title>
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		<title>By: Tommy Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/e85-boondoggle-of-the-day-cost-benefit-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-721251</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; &lt;i&gt; I guess we do live in a capitalist society.&lt;/i&gt;

I wish we did.</description>
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		<title>By: robertann</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/e85-boondoggle-of-the-day-cost-benefit-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-720672</link>
		<dc:creator>robertann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the cost benefit scenarios include the engine lasting twice as long because the oil isn&#039;t contaminated from the Gas impurities?

Does the cost benefit scenarios include cuting your oil changes in half because or oil stays cleaner longer?

Does the cost benefit scenarios include a proper mileage figure for a car the is built to run on ethanol higher octane?

Does the cost benefit scenarios include the cost of being vaporized for funding the nuclear ambitions of an ememy sworn to God to eliminate the US due to its sinful nasty life style?</description>
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<p>Does the cost benefit scenarios include cuting your oil changes in half because or oil stays cleaner longer?</p>
<p>Does the cost benefit scenarios include a proper mileage figure for a car the is built to run on ethanol higher octane?</p>
<p>Does the cost benefit scenarios include the cost of being vaporized for funding the nuclear ambitions of an ememy sworn to God to eliminate the US due to its sinful nasty life style?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JoeEgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeEgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s interesting that most of the harsh words about ethanol are price based. I guess we do live in a capitalist society.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s the beauty of money.  The cost/benefit calculations can account for future scenarios if you want to make a long term argument.  Most people focus on much shorter terms where the costs are easy to understand.  It just so happens that ethanol&#039;s problems can be seen in the short term (efficiency vs price vs storage &amp; distribution) as well as the long term (environmental damage and sustainability).

A capitalist society means people and companies will move away from ethanol because of these factors - unless there are plenty of subsidies and kickbacks to go around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>It’s interesting that most of the harsh words about ethanol are price based. I guess we do live in a capitalist society.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the beauty of money.  The cost/benefit calculations can account for future scenarios if you want to make a long term argument.  Most people focus on much shorter terms where the costs are easy to understand.  It just so happens that ethanol&#8217;s problems can be seen in the short term (efficiency vs price vs storage &amp; distribution) as well as the long term (environmental damage and sustainability).</p>
<p>A capitalist society means people and companies will move away from ethanol because of these factors &#8211; unless there are plenty of subsidies and kickbacks to go around.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/e85-boondoggle-of-the-day-cost-benefit-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-719591</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SunnyvaleCA,

I know, in California, hydrogen produced by solar power and plug in hybrids are the answer.</description>
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<p>I know, in California, hydrogen produced by solar power and plug in hybrids are the answer.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/e85-boondoggle-of-the-day-cost-benefit-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-719111</link>
		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I guess we do live in a capitalist society.&lt;/em&gt;

This is the primary problem with these eco ideas. Ignoring economics for the sake of everything else dooms it from the start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I guess we do live in a capitalist society.</em></p>
<p>This is the primary problem with these eco ideas. Ignoring economics for the sake of everything else dooms it from the start.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SunnyvaleCA</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/e85-boondoggle-of-the-day-cost-benefit-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-718792</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyvaleCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lumbergh21, I realize you are just kidding.  But, to set the record straight:  California has petitioned the feds multiple times to &lt;i&gt;stop&lt;/i&gt; the requirement for ethanol use.  (Ethanol actually makes meeting CA&#039;s tougher clean-fuel standards harder.)  The higher prices of fuel in CA (due to clean-fuel standards, higher taxes, and overall higher costs for everything) are probably the leading reason CA residents use less gasoline per person than residents of most other states.</description>
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		<title>By: SunnyvaleCA</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/e85-boondoggle-of-the-day-cost-benefit-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-718772</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyvaleCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you optimized an engine to run ethanol exclusively, you could make up some of the energy content difference with better ICE efficiency.  The latest direct-inject turbocharged engines might have a chance, especially if boost were reprogrammed.

It&#039;s interesting that most of the harsh words about ethanol are price based.  I guess we do live in a capitalist society.  Ethanol supporters often note all the other problems with gasoline (foreign wars, non-renewable, carbon liberation) but then forget corn ethanol&#039;s problems:  topsoil depletion, topsoil erosion, rivers polluted by fertilizer runoff, massive water use, pesticide use, monoculture, use of non-renewable fertilizers.  Hybridized corn isn&#039;t a native plant and isn&#039;t exactly easy on the ecosystem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If you optimized an engine to run ethanol exclusively, you could make up some of the energy content difference with better ICE efficiency.  The latest direct-inject turbocharged engines might have a chance, especially if boost were reprogrammed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that most of the harsh words about ethanol are price based.  I guess we do live in a capitalist society.  Ethanol supporters often note all the other problems with gasoline (foreign wars, non-renewable, carbon liberation) but then forget corn ethanol&#8217;s problems:  topsoil depletion, topsoil erosion, rivers polluted by fertilizer runoff, massive water use, pesticide use, monoculture, use of non-renewable fertilizers.  Hybridized corn isn&#8217;t a native plant and isn&#8217;t exactly easy on the ecosystem.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were California, they wouldn&#039;t let a pesky little truth like decreased fuel economy stop them from bellying up to the E85 bar.  What&#039;s wrong with these people in NewYork?  Don&#039;t they want to save the environment, free the US from foriegn entanglements, and create a utopian society that runs on liquid love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If it were California, they wouldn&#8217;t let a pesky little truth like decreased fuel economy stop them from bellying up to the E85 bar.  What&#8217;s wrong with these people in NewYork?  Don&#8217;t they want to save the environment, free the US from foriegn entanglements, and create a utopian society that runs on liquid love?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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