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	<title>Comments on: Dinan Cold Air Intake and ECU Software Review</title>
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		<title>By: jdv</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dinan&#039;s CAI is routed into the bumper/front apron area.  On some BMW models (E36 M3), it is fed by the brake duct cooling.

I had the CAI and software on my previous M3, the primary benefit was sound.  At wide open throttle the car just ROARED.

On my current BMW 540, I purchased their software during their 1/2 off sale 2 summers ago, so I paid $150.  The difference in the car was dramatic, not so much at full throttle, but more so at partial throttle, where most of us spend most of our time driving. Dinan advertises a peak torque gain of 25 tq @ 2500 rpm.  I don&#039;t know if that is the number or not, but it sure felt different after the software.  The downside is the requirement for premium fuel.</description>
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<p>I had the CAI and software on my previous M3, the primary benefit was sound.  At wide open throttle the car just ROARED.</p>
<p>On my current BMW 540, I purchased their software during their 1/2 off sale 2 summers ago, so I paid $150.  The difference in the car was dramatic, not so much at full throttle, but more so at partial throttle, where most of us spend most of our time driving. Dinan advertises a peak torque gain of 25 tq @ 2500 rpm.  I don&#8217;t know if that is the number or not, but it sure felt different after the software.  The downside is the requirement for premium fuel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: doctorv8</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/dinan-cold-air-intake-and-ecu-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-94765</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorv8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10-20 HP is optimistic for the E39 M5 CAI. Dinan makes a quality sealed piece, but 5-7 HP is more like it, ie not a significant gain.</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of points: 

I am assuming Dinan&#039;s CAI kit is actually routed in the engine compartment to not be a hot-air intake, but I&#039;ve seen plenty of CAIs that don&#039;t seal the conical filter from the hot engine bay.  Just wanted to make sure Dinan isn&#039;t making a carbon fiber version of the CAIs you can get at WalMart for $25. :)

As mentioned before, a baseline dyno of the car is really necessary to show before and after improvements.  This could be a good thing, maybe the (before) test vehicle is not performing to its SAE-blessed ratings, and the increase in power (after) is more impressive. But from what I&#039;ve seen in the M5 crowd, the baseline would show the same thing: 10-20 more horses, no governor, higher rpm, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Couple of points: </p>
<p>I am assuming Dinan&#8217;s CAI kit is actually routed in the engine compartment to not be a hot-air intake, but I&#8217;ve seen plenty of CAIs that don&#8217;t seal the conical filter from the hot engine bay.  Just wanted to make sure Dinan isn&#8217;t making a carbon fiber version of the CAIs you can get at WalMart for $25. :)</p>
<p>As mentioned before, a baseline dyno of the car is really necessary to show before and after improvements.  This could be a good thing, maybe the (before) test vehicle is not performing to its SAE-blessed ratings, and the increase in power (after) is more impressive. But from what I&#8217;ve seen in the M5 crowd, the baseline would show the same thing: 10-20 more horses, no governor, higher rpm, etc.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NICKNICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICKNICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virtual Insanity :
If they&#039;re getting horsepower gains just from cutting up the box (I&#039;ve seen this in the VW world), it&#039;s because of increased air flow, not lower air temperature.</description>
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If they&#8217;re getting horsepower gains just from cutting up the box (I&#8217;ve seen this in the VW world), it&#8217;s because of increased air flow, not lower air temperature.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: doctorv8</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/dinan-cold-air-intake-and-ecu-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-94568</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorv8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t see the point of writing this article without a baseline dyno run.

The 17.5% dyno correction factor you used is purely arbitrary, so saying that your modded car makes 244 crank HP is misleading, at best.

Would you review the results of a botox injection without a &quot;before&quot; photo...and tell your readers that &quot;I feel a bit younger?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I really don&#8217;t see the point of writing this article without a baseline dyno run.</p>
<p>The 17.5% dyno correction factor you used is purely arbitrary, so saying that your modded car makes 244 crank HP is misleading, at best.</p>
<p>Would you review the results of a botox injection without a &#8220;before&#8221; photo&#8230;and tell your readers that &#8220;I feel a bit younger?&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bustamove:

No aftermarket product will void a warrenty.  Ever.  The only way an aftermarket part will cause your warrenty to be void is if it is directly associated with the failure of the part.  There&#039;s a federal law for it.  And no, Dinan doesn&#039;t match that part.</description>
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<p>No aftermarket product will void a warrenty.  Ever.  The only way an aftermarket part will cause your warrenty to be void is if it is directly associated with the failure of the part.  There&#8217;s a federal law for it.  And no, Dinan doesn&#8217;t match that part.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bustamove</title>
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		<dc:creator>bustamove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone please point a few things to me. 

1. Where is the dyno results of the M Roadster BEFORE the CAI and ECU were installed?

2. Was there any mention of Dinan&#039;s warranty? Dinan products do not void the BMW factory warranty (unlike most aftermarket products) and they backup their products for two full years after the product is installed by an authorized Dinan dealer. Go to the Dinan website and read the details.

Yes, Dinan products are generally more expensive than their competitors, but Dinan puts more R &amp; D into their products than most other BMW/MINI aftermarket parts manufacturers and they fully support their products.

I interviewed Steve Dinan and spent several hours with the man touring his Morgan Hill facility. Most of the negativism towards Dinan is because few people understand the company&#039;s philosophy and the amount of work to produce a product that improves the performance of a car with ZERO compromises. How many aftermarket performance parts have you installed that have some ill effects along with their claimed benefits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Someone please point a few things to me. </p>
<p>1. Where is the dyno results of the M Roadster BEFORE the CAI and ECU were installed?</p>
<p>2. Was there any mention of Dinan&#8217;s warranty? Dinan products do not void the BMW factory warranty (unlike most aftermarket products) and they backup their products for two full years after the product is installed by an authorized Dinan dealer. Go to the Dinan website and read the details.</p>
<p>Yes, Dinan products are generally more expensive than their competitors, but Dinan puts more R &amp; D into their products than most other BMW/MINI aftermarket parts manufacturers and they fully support their products.</p>
<p>I interviewed Steve Dinan and spent several hours with the man touring his Morgan Hill facility. Most of the negativism towards Dinan is because few people understand the company&#8217;s philosophy and the amount of work to produce a product that improves the performance of a car with ZERO compromises. How many aftermarket performance parts have you installed that have some ill effects along with their claimed benefits?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/dinan-cold-air-intake-and-ecu-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-94488</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Active Autowerke, Rogue Engineering, ESS, etc.  There are a tonf of companies that make parts just for BMW and blow Dinan prices out of the water.  UUC is ok, but they tend to be on the pricey side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Active Autowerke, Rogue Engineering, ESS, etc.  There are a tonf of companies that make parts just for BMW and blow Dinan prices out of the water.  UUC is ok, but they tend to be on the pricey side.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
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		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dinan&#039;s products are of high quality, IMHO. I like the fact that they are engineered to work with the car. Many aftermarket companies seem to lack the commitment to actually test their products and ensure they don&#039;t degrade the reliability of the vehicle. However, they are way overpriced for what you get. I did install the Stage II suspension on my car because it offered the spring/stabar tuning I was looking for, and I love it, but I would never blow this kind of cash on a CAI or the $1200 their high flow exhaust goes for. Also, there are aftermarket companies who do engineer and build their products very well, like Active Autowerke, and sell them for much, much less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Dinan&#8217;s products are of high quality, IMHO. I like the fact that they are engineered to work with the car. Many aftermarket companies seem to lack the commitment to actually test their products and ensure they don&#8217;t degrade the reliability of the vehicle. However, they are way overpriced for what you get. I did install the Stage II suspension on my car because it offered the spring/stabar tuning I was looking for, and I love it, but I would never blow this kind of cash on a CAI or the $1200 their high flow exhaust goes for. Also, there are aftermarket companies who do engineer and build their products very well, like Active Autowerke, and sell them for much, much less.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NICKNICK:

I disagree.  Many people in the Mazdaspeed3 Community, and most turbocharged cars, can show very noticable gains at the wheels from nothing more than a simple Open Element filter.  Using the Speed3, for example, people have dynoed upwards of a ten wheel horsepower gain from just cutting up the stock box, and almost 20whp and good torque gains from an intake.

Cretinx:

I agree 100%.  I read his white paper about underdrive pullies, and had to laugh.  The only reason he doesn&#039;t like UD pullies is because UR wont sell him theirs, and you can&#039;t charge 200% mark up for them.</description>
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<p>I disagree.  Many people in the Mazdaspeed3 Community, and most turbocharged cars, can show very noticable gains at the wheels from nothing more than a simple Open Element filter.  Using the Speed3, for example, people have dynoed upwards of a ten wheel horsepower gain from just cutting up the stock box, and almost 20whp and good torque gains from an intake.</p>
<p>Cretinx:</p>
<p>I agree 100%.  I read his white paper about underdrive pullies, and had to laugh.  The only reason he doesn&#8217;t like UD pullies is because UR wont sell him theirs, and you can&#8217;t charge 200% mark up for them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dinan is a huge scam.  Overpriced garbage for little to no gains - pretty much everyone in the BMW community knows this.

Steve Dinan is also a huge jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Dinan is a huge scam.  Overpriced garbage for little to no gains &#8211; pretty much everyone in the BMW community knows this.</p>
<p>Steve Dinan is also a huge jerk.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NICKNICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICKNICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how does it sound?
the only reason i&#039;d put a CAI on anything is for the noises.
i don&#039;t really buy the whole hot air in the engine bay thing.  on a cold day when you can see exhaust, look how big of a cloud you make and how fast; that&#039;s all air that went through your engine.  engines suck so much air that intake air doesn&#039;t spend enough time in the engine bay to heat up significantly.  when you&#039;re at the absolute limits in a race engine, maybe a degree or two is the difference between detonation and not.  for street cars, i don&#039;t see the point.  but if it sounds good, it&#039;s easily worth the $200 for entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->how does it sound?<br />
the only reason i&#8217;d put a CAI on anything is for the noises.<br />
i don&#8217;t really buy the whole hot air in the engine bay thing.  on a cold day when you can see exhaust, look how big of a cloud you make and how fast; that&#8217;s all air that went through your engine.  engines suck so much air that intake air doesn&#8217;t spend enough time in the engine bay to heat up significantly.  when you&#8217;re at the absolute limits in a race engine, maybe a degree or two is the difference between detonation and not.  for street cars, i don&#8217;t see the point.  but if it sounds good, it&#8217;s easily worth the $200 for entertainment.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cyclopticgaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyclopticgaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice info.  I generally drool at the Dinan letters on the back of a bimmer, then immediately wonder what options the person purchased in order to get enough Dinan points to earn the badge.  You can no doubt spec out a &quot;Dinanized&quot; car and earn the badge without much increase in performance over stock.  Or, you could spend the big bucks and spec the car out with all the chassis tuning they offer (it&#039;s all Koni, Brembo, etc. anyway) and have a real screamer.  I&#039;m glad Dinan does what he does, but for the money I&#039;d be hard-pressed to go that route.  Maybe TC Kline.  Still pricey, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice info.  I generally drool at the Dinan letters on the back of a bimmer, then immediately wonder what options the person purchased in order to get enough Dinan points to earn the badge.  You can no doubt spec out a &#8220;Dinanized&#8221; car and earn the badge without much increase in performance over stock.  Or, you could spend the big bucks and spec the car out with all the chassis tuning they offer (it&#8217;s all Koni, Brembo, etc. anyway) and have a real screamer.  I&#8217;m glad Dinan does what he does, but for the money I&#8217;d be hard-pressed to go that route.  Maybe TC Kline.  Still pricey, though.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Dinan snare snags another one.  Always stood back from Dinan parts, to much money for to much nothing.  I had a carbonio CF CAI on my 3, it cost me 200 shipped, install took fifteen minutes in my drive way.  Looked the exact same as the Dinan CAI, just a different sticker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->And the Dinan snare snags another one.  Always stood back from Dinan parts, to much money for to much nothing.  I had a carbonio CF CAI on my 3, it cost me 200 shipped, install took fifteen minutes in my drive way.  Looked the exact same as the Dinan CAI, just a different sticker.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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