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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/delphi-shafts-suppliers-union-executive-bonuses-escape-unscathed/comment-page-1/#comment-88084</link>
		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;
Matthew Danda:
Who would want to be a manager at Delphi if they didn’t give bonuses?&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s a certain logic to that. Especially in a firm that has &lt;strike&gt; bribed &lt;/strike&gt; bought out many union members to retire early. 

But the upper management ranks should be the ones held accountable. IF this money was more widely spread over all managers (some of whom haven&#039;t got raises in a while), there may be justification. But $400K over 500 people seems way too pricey. 

One possible solution to this: Ease corporate takeovers.</description>
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Matthew Danda:<br />
Who would want to be a manager at Delphi if they didn’t give bonuses?</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a certain logic to that. Especially in a firm that has <strike> bribed </strike> bought out many union members to retire early. </p>
<p>But the upper management ranks should be the ones held accountable. IF this money was more widely spread over all managers (some of whom haven&#8217;t got raises in a while), there may be justification. But $400K over 500 people seems way too pricey. </p>
<p>One possible solution to this: Ease corporate takeovers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: taxman100</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/delphi-shafts-suppliers-union-executive-bonuses-escape-unscathed/comment-page-1/#comment-88063</link>
		<dc:creator>taxman100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate America is run for the benefit of executives and Wall Street - any other entities or individuals who derive any positives are completely unintentual. 

The government figured out how to get themselves in the group of executives and investors, but they have guns and are allowed to use them to get their way.</description>
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<p>The government figured out how to get themselves in the group of executives and investors, but they have guns and are allowed to use them to get their way.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why the union should be treated any different than the other suppliers. As soon as they start working under a union contract they really work for the union that is now providing labor for the company. I know that&#039;s not how the law sees it, but I see it that way.

Actual employees should be first to be defended, followed by suppliers.  Now the real pickle are the officers of the company. In our present system it seems that the stock holders are not really running the company, and I have to agree that the first ones burned should really be the officers.

Would someone here please explain how the stockholders suddenly lose their rights to fire all the management? It would seem to me that the stockholders would ALWAYS choose to liquidate the company if there were any chance at all of getting money back for their investment.  Even if there was not, it would seem they would somehow set themselves up to get preferential treatment to buy back into the new company.

I am really at a loss as to how the officers can ignore their fiduciary obligations to everyone other than themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t see why the union should be treated any different than the other suppliers. As soon as they start working under a union contract they really work for the union that is now providing labor for the company. I know that&#8217;s not how the law sees it, but I see it that way.</p>
<p>Actual employees should be first to be defended, followed by suppliers.  Now the real pickle are the officers of the company. In our present system it seems that the stock holders are not really running the company, and I have to agree that the first ones burned should really be the officers.</p>
<p>Would someone here please explain how the stockholders suddenly lose their rights to fire all the management? It would seem to me that the stockholders would ALWAYS choose to liquidate the company if there were any chance at all of getting money back for their investment.  Even if there was not, it would seem they would somehow set themselves up to get preferential treatment to buy back into the new company.</p>
<p>I am really at a loss as to how the officers can ignore their fiduciary obligations to everyone other than themselves.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ca36gtp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ca36gtp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that CEO bonuses and whatnot are a private sector decision, and while reprehensible in many cases, are not and SHOULD NOT be illegal. There&#039;s a little thing called liberty we claim to defend in the free world.

Everyone has liberty to be a moron.</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is gonna change until CEOs across the board get fined/jailed/publicly humiliated for what they&#039;re doing to our companies. 

And that&#039;s never gonna happen. Maybe TTAC should start an Executive Compensation Watch, just to make the plebeians feel better.</description>
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<p>And that&#8217;s never gonna happen. Maybe TTAC should start an Executive Compensation Watch, just to make the plebeians feel better.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bonuses are insane. From what I understand, Delphi is having trouble keeping mid-level management and engineers. 

But ~500 managers are going to carve up ~$200 mil?!? That&#039;s $400K each!?!

If I were a Ford or GM manager looking at this, I&#039;d have to think, &quot;We need to git this judge when we file.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->These bonuses are insane. From what I understand, Delphi is having trouble keeping mid-level management and engineers. </p>
<p>But ~500 managers are going to carve up ~$200 mil?!? That&#8217;s $400K each!?!</p>
<p>If I were a Ford or GM manager looking at this, I&#8217;d have to think, &#8220;We need to git this judge when we file.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ca36gtp</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/delphi-shafts-suppliers-union-executive-bonuses-escape-unscathed/comment-page-1/#comment-88014</link>
		<dc:creator>ca36gtp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The easiest way to get rich for life is to make it to the upper echelons of a company and then *screw up*. Just look at Chuck Prince.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Danda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Danda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would want to be a manager at Delphi if they didn&#039;t give bonuses?</description>
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		<title>By: yankinwaoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>yankinwaoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the $1.4b pension liability. Would that not be a liability no matter what happens by 31-Dec?   In other words, the liability doesn&#039;t appear on 01-Jan. It is already there. The only question is when it gets paid.

But I expect, like most other pensions in the US, that the taxpayers are going to end up picking up the pension. Just like United Airlines did.

So that liability really isn&#039;t one since the PGBC is waiting on the sidelines to catch it, and screw the taxpayers one more time, when it does fail. I doubt the executives at Delphi spend one second worrying about it.</description>
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<p>But I expect, like most other pensions in the US, that the taxpayers are going to end up picking up the pension. Just like United Airlines did.</p>
<p>So that liability really isn&#8217;t one since the PGBC is waiting on the sidelines to catch it, and screw the taxpayers one more time, when it does fail. I doubt the executives at Delphi spend one second worrying about it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cammy Corrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cammy Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate America (and many other countries) are the only houses where the rot starts from the stop.

This is disgusting on a level I&#039;ve never seen before. I can&#039;t believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Corporate America (and many other countries) are the only houses where the rot starts from the stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Unfortunately the only way is for the companies to disappear, but then everyone suffers.&lt;/em&gt;

That is what I thought, I was hoping someone would have a better answer. Any wayt the employees could take back the company from the incompitant management, sort of like Harley did. 
I know it&#039;s wishful thinking, but I was hoping it could be fixed without hurting the hardworking employees who really do all the work and make the comapny function. 
It&#039;s sad the people who really need to be drug through the coals never will and the undeserving will be hurt the most including the rest of us Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Unfortunately the only way is for the companies to disappear, but then everyone suffers.</em></p>
<p>That is what I thought, I was hoping someone would have a better answer. Any wayt the employees could take back the company from the incompitant management, sort of like Harley did.<br />
I know it&#8217;s wishful thinking, but I was hoping it could be fixed without hurting the hardworking employees who really do all the work and make the comapny function.<br />
It&#8217;s sad the people who really need to be drug through the coals never will and the undeserving will be hurt the most including the rest of us Americans.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The culture needs to change.I,ve seen incompetant,lazy, and just plain stupid people get promoted.One thing they all had in common was agreeing to every thing thier boss had to say.
 At the same time I,ve seen brilliant young men and women, quit in disgust.
 I don&#039;t know if its true in sucessfull companys but its a way of life at GM</description>
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 At the same time I,ve seen brilliant young men and women, quit in disgust.<br />
 I don&#8217;t know if its true in sucessfull companys but its a way of life at GM<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Is there anyway to get rid of the rot at the top of the companies?&quot;

Unfortunately the only way is for the companies to disappear, but then everyone suffers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8221; Is there anyway to get rid of the rot at the top of the companies?&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately the only way is for the companies to disappear, but then everyone suffers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anyway to get rid of the &lt;strong&gt;rot&lt;/strong&gt; at the top of the companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Is there anyway to get rid of the <strong>rot</strong> at the top of the companies?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets get it straight,the top dogs with skillfull management run the company to chapter 11.Do that and you get a bonus?
 Suppliers get screwed,along with shareholders,and the workers.
 Silly me,I was under the impression it was the greedy unions fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Lets get it straight,the top dogs with skillfull management run the company to chapter 11.Do that and you get a bonus?<br />
 Suppliers get screwed,along with shareholders,and the workers.<br />
 Silly me,I was under the impression it was the greedy unions fault.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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