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		<title>By: philr</title>
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		<dc:creator>philr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice car!
 1965 Buicks are my favourite cars. When I was 9 years old, the mother on one of my classmates had a LeSabre Custom hardtop coupe like this one (but without the &quot;400&quot; package) and with a black interior, faded green paint, surface rust on the roof, rust holes in the lower quarters and two remaining hubcaps, one on the driver side rear wheel and another on the passenger side front wheel!
 When I saw it, it instantly became my favourite car even if it wasn&#039;t in good condition! I was also impressed by the 6 window cranks in a two door (that was in 1986...) and the fact that there was no center post like there were in most cars of the eighties (except a few japanese and some MB models) really got my attention. Since then, pilarless hardtops became my favourite body styles and I still wonder why US automakers stopped making them in the late seventies. Buick was the first brand to introduce pilarless hardtops in &#039;49 but it was soon followed by Cadillac and Olds and within a year, most brands from the big three had pilarless hardtops in their lineup.  Hardtops disappeared almost as quickly in the seventies and the padded landau roofs and fixed side glass that replaced them were quite uncool!



210delray, as you said, these cars came equipped with lap belts in the front but in 1965, it was still possible to delete them and get a credit (for the last time!).

Jonny I read your comments about the engine and I can tell you the engine pictured is not a Buick 350. The &#039;65 LeSabre 400 had a 300-4 barrel and &#039;66-67 LeSabre 400 models had 340-4 barrel engines which look the same as the &#039;65 300. The exhaust manifolds shown on the picture indicates this engine is either a Buick 300 or a newer 340 but they would not fit a Buick 350.
The 350 also has different valve covers. 

This car lightly modified from original.
The engine was painted gold but it left the factory with light green paint.  The tail panel is painted gold but it was originally the same color as the body (but it looks good like that!). Some parts of the interior were redone in black but they should be the same color as the rest of the interior (except the dashpad that should be brown). The original steering had two spokes that were curved down to allow reading the gauges. 

Shaker, the &#039;65 Buicks could also be equipped with the cruise control. In that case, the black needle with a yellow dot in the speedometer would indicate the set speed and pushing on the set button would make the car accelerate quickly from still to to the set speed without having to touch the accelerator pedal. Once there or above that speed, the &quot;cruise&quot; light came on above the 60 MPH mark in the speedometer. (see the link to my page on CarDomain below for images of it). 

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/772306

And &#039;65 LeSabres had cast iron drums which were not so good (and the featured car lacks power assist, not common on these cars!) but models with the bigger engines like the Wildcat, Electra 225 and Riviera got aluminium brake drums which were the best drums on the market. I have a &#039;67 Buick Riviera with disc brakes (and 4 piston calipers) and they are not much better than the aluminium drums in my &#039;65 Wildcat.

Andy, the floor dimmers didn&#039;t disappear in 1966, there were still used in the seventies. That&#039;s what I have in my &#039;75 Buick Electra and newer cars have them too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice car!<br />
 1965 Buicks are my favourite cars. When I was 9 years old, the mother on one of my classmates had a LeSabre Custom hardtop coupe like this one (but without the &#8220;400&#8243; package) and with a black interior, faded green paint, surface rust on the roof, rust holes in the lower quarters and two remaining hubcaps, one on the driver side rear wheel and another on the passenger side front wheel!<br />
 When I saw it, it instantly became my favourite car even if it wasn&#8217;t in good condition! I was also impressed by the 6 window cranks in a two door (that was in 1986&#8230;) and the fact that there was no center post like there were in most cars of the eighties (except a few japanese and some MB models) really got my attention. Since then, pilarless hardtops became my favourite body styles and I still wonder why US automakers stopped making them in the late seventies. Buick was the first brand to introduce pilarless hardtops in &#8216;49 but it was soon followed by Cadillac and Olds and within a year, most brands from the big three had pilarless hardtops in their lineup.  Hardtops disappeared almost as quickly in the seventies and the padded landau roofs and fixed side glass that replaced them were quite uncool!</p>
<p>210delray, as you said, these cars came equipped with lap belts in the front but in 1965, it was still possible to delete them and get a credit (for the last time!).</p>
<p>Jonny I read your comments about the engine and I can tell you the engine pictured is not a Buick 350. The &#8216;65 LeSabre 400 had a 300-4 barrel and &#8216;66-67 LeSabre 400 models had 340-4 barrel engines which look the same as the &#8216;65 300. The exhaust manifolds shown on the picture indicates this engine is either a Buick 300 or a newer 340 but they would not fit a Buick 350.<br />
The 350 also has different valve covers. </p>
<p>This car lightly modified from original.<br />
The engine was painted gold but it left the factory with light green paint.  The tail panel is painted gold but it was originally the same color as the body (but it looks good like that!). Some parts of the interior were redone in black but they should be the same color as the rest of the interior (except the dashpad that should be brown). The original steering had two spokes that were curved down to allow reading the gauges. </p>
<p>Shaker, the &#8216;65 Buicks could also be equipped with the cruise control. In that case, the black needle with a yellow dot in the speedometer would indicate the set speed and pushing on the set button would make the car accelerate quickly from still to to the set speed without having to touch the accelerator pedal. Once there or above that speed, the &#8220;cruise&#8221; light came on above the 60 MPH mark in the speedometer. (see the link to my page on CarDomain below for images of it). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cardomain.com/ride/772306" rel="nofollow">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/772306</a></p>
<p>And &#8216;65 LeSabres had cast iron drums which were not so good (and the featured car lacks power assist, not common on these cars!) but models with the bigger engines like the Wildcat, Electra 225 and Riviera got aluminium brake drums which were the best drums on the market. I have a &#8216;67 Buick Riviera with disc brakes (and 4 piston calipers) and they are not much better than the aluminium drums in my &#8216;65 Wildcat.</p>
<p>Andy, the floor dimmers didn&#8217;t disappear in 1966, there were still used in the seventies. That&#8217;s what I have in my &#8216;75 Buick Electra and newer cars have them too!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: C. Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a room mate in college who oned a 66&#039; Ford Galaxy 4 door.  That car was massive, and we called &quot;The Star Destroyer&quot;.  We pulled a joke on him once and advertised the trunk of car for rent as an apartment in the college paper.

My own exposure to &#039;60s cars has been limited to the &#039;67 Mustang I am trying to restore.  Driving that car with 4 wheel manual drum brakes is an adventure.  You have to get used to really stomping on the brakes to get it to stop.

There are not a lot of these cars left mainly due to rust.  If it was not seen, chances are detroit did not bother to paint it at the factory.  Replacing rusted out floor plans, and cowls are the first order of business when restoring alot of these cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had a room mate in college who oned a 66&#8242; Ford Galaxy 4 door.  That car was massive, and we called &#8220;The Star Destroyer&#8221;.  We pulled a joke on him once and advertised the trunk of car for rent as an apartment in the college paper.</p>
<p>My own exposure to &#8217;60s cars has been limited to the &#8216;67 Mustang I am trying to restore.  Driving that car with 4 wheel manual drum brakes is an adventure.  You have to get used to really stomping on the brakes to get it to stop.</p>
<p>There are not a lot of these cars left mainly due to rust.  If it was not seen, chances are detroit did not bother to paint it at the factory.  Replacing rusted out floor plans, and cowls are the first order of business when restoring alot of these cars.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kluttz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Kluttz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem here is, I&#039;m looking at a 1966 LeSabre.  Those are 1966 taillights.  And I am sure.  I was 9 in 1966 and I remember the Wildcat.  The 1965 had two unframed lights in the same place, but with the reverse light nestled between them.  Do some research...I&#039;ll be watching for a rebuttal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Problem here is, I&#8217;m looking at a 1966 LeSabre.  Those are 1966 taillights.  And I am sure.  I was 9 in 1966 and I remember the Wildcat.  The 1965 had two unframed lights in the same place, but with the reverse light nestled between them.  Do some research&#8230;I&#8217;ll be watching for a rebuttal.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My early 70s VW Beetgle had the turn signal lever mounted high / low beam switch. Works just like my modern Honda. 

The one that I was glad to get rid of was my &#039;81 Mustang. The &amp;*%@ horn was activated by pushing IN on the turn signal stalk. I don&#039;t remember where the high/low beam switch was. I want to say the floor just like my &#039;66 Mustang. I either want the switch on the floor or at least a GOOD turn signal lever switch like a decent foreign car. The current domestics are good - smooth with just the right feel too. My VWs and Hondas are for me the benchmark on switch feel. 

As for the through the floor pedals: our family had a 1935 Ford fordor (no I didn&#039;t spell that wrong) in the 1980s. It was an unrestored car on it&#039;s second paint job. Neat old car. Vacum wiper system that was uh less than optimum. One rainy weekend we drove it from Chattanooga to Pigeon Forge (a place where they made cast iron birds?) for a car show. We were humming along at 50-55 mph when Dad hit a low spot in the road and got a face full of road water!!! Us two kids in the back seat thought this was endlessly funny. Mom was a good sport dealing with a leaky roof (rubber insert top) over her door. The wiper would slow to a crawl on the hill climbs and then race as we coasted down the other side. My &#039;49 Chevy did exactly the same thing. 

They are fun old cars but I am glad that this isn&#039;t what we all HAVE to drive everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My early 70s VW Beetgle had the turn signal lever mounted high / low beam switch. Works just like my modern Honda. </p>
<p>The one that I was glad to get rid of was my &#8216;81 Mustang. The &amp;*%@ horn was activated by pushing IN on the turn signal stalk. I don&#8217;t remember where the high/low beam switch was. I want to say the floor just like my &#8216;66 Mustang. I either want the switch on the floor or at least a GOOD turn signal lever switch like a decent foreign car. The current domestics are good &#8211; smooth with just the right feel too. My VWs and Hondas are for me the benchmark on switch feel. </p>
<p>As for the through the floor pedals: our family had a 1935 Ford fordor (no I didn&#8217;t spell that wrong) in the 1980s. It was an unrestored car on it&#8217;s second paint job. Neat old car. Vacum wiper system that was uh less than optimum. One rainy weekend we drove it from Chattanooga to Pigeon Forge (a place where they made cast iron birds?) for a car show. We were humming along at 50-55 mph when Dad hit a low spot in the road and got a face full of road water!!! Us two kids in the back seat thought this was endlessly funny. Mom was a good sport dealing with a leaky roof (rubber insert top) over her door. The wiper would slow to a crawl on the hill climbs and then race as we coasted down the other side. My &#8216;49 Chevy did exactly the same thing. </p>
<p>They are fun old cars but I am glad that this isn&#8217;t what we all HAVE to drive everyday.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shaker:

Yes, but my mother thinks I&#039;m stupid.</description>
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<p>Yes, but my mother thinks I&#8217;m stupid.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: shaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonny:
You&#039;re a brave soul  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Jonny:<br />
You&#8217;re a brave soul  ;-)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaker,

Thank you -- I had been wondering what the hell the black needle on the speedo was for.

Very cool.

And for the record, it was set to 90 mph. The fastest I ever went was 85 mph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Shaker,</p>
<p>Thank you &#8212; I had been wondering what the hell the black needle on the speedo was for.</p>
<p>Very cool.</p>
<p>And for the record, it was set to 90 mph. The fastest I ever went was 85 mph.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: shaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty nasty mismatch between that bench seat and the interior trim.

My first car (in 1973) was a &#039;65 LeSabre 4-door hardtop, which started life as a gold metallic color, but when my uncle sold it to me for $500, he had &quot;livened it up&quot; with an Earl Scheib &#039;Daytona Orange&#039; job with a white, sprayed-on &#039;vinyl&#039; top. Once I had spray-painted the grille with gloss-black paint (except for the large cross-bars), the look was complete.
300 V8, Super Turbine 400 tranny and the worst (drum) brakes ever for a beast that size.
Since I walked to work at US Steel in those days, the car was only really used to take my Dad shopping, and for me and my buddies to cruise around on my days off, the trusty six-pack always occupying the center-front seat position.
I can say that the bullet-proof tranny, being pulled all the way down to &quot;L&quot; (with two feet firmly planted on the brake pedal) ended many a drag race just short of disaster when it finally scrubbed off the ill-advised velocity of that lovely, lovely behemoth.

The Carter carb&#039;s automatic choke never worked right (despite numerous attempts to fix it); but proper feathering of the throttle would usually bring the engine to life in all but the coldest weather. I can&#039;t remember what kind of gas mileage I got, but in those days, it didn&#039;t matter.
I do remember that the car was extraordinarily quick for its size/engine combo; I once measured a 0-60 time of 9 seconds up a slight grade; I raced later-model 318 Plymouth Dusters and er, dusted them...
The stock AM radio came with an adjustable &quot;reverb&quot; for the rear speaker, you could set it between &quot;bathroom&quot; and &quot;bad acid trip&quot; settings.
Instead of a cruise control, the speedo had an adjustable extra needle (like an alarm clock), where a buzzer would go off if you exceeded the set speed. (I couldn&#039;t see the sense of it; the buzzer would merely irritate you to set the pointer to 100mph). The six-way power seat was always set to &quot;pimp&quot; mode to accommodate my lanky frame.
Surprisingly, the car ended life after a woman crossed a double-yellow line and crushed the driver&#039;s side of the car from the back door through the rear fender -- her insurance co. &quot;totaled&quot; it for me, and wrote me a check for $500.

Thanks for allowing me to wallow in my automotive past... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Pretty nasty mismatch between that bench seat and the interior trim.</p>
<p>My first car (in 1973) was a &#8216;65 LeSabre 4-door hardtop, which started life as a gold metallic color, but when my uncle sold it to me for $500, he had &#8220;livened it up&#8221; with an Earl Scheib &#8216;Daytona Orange&#8217; job with a white, sprayed-on &#8216;vinyl&#8217; top. Once I had spray-painted the grille with gloss-black paint (except for the large cross-bars), the look was complete.<br />
300 V8, Super Turbine 400 tranny and the worst (drum) brakes ever for a beast that size.<br />
Since I walked to work at US Steel in those days, the car was only really used to take my Dad shopping, and for me and my buddies to cruise around on my days off, the trusty six-pack always occupying the center-front seat position.<br />
I can say that the bullet-proof tranny, being pulled all the way down to &#8220;L&#8221; (with two feet firmly planted on the brake pedal) ended many a drag race just short of disaster when it finally scrubbed off the ill-advised velocity of that lovely, lovely behemoth.</p>
<p>The Carter carb&#8217;s automatic choke never worked right (despite numerous attempts to fix it); but proper feathering of the throttle would usually bring the engine to life in all but the coldest weather. I can&#8217;t remember what kind of gas mileage I got, but in those days, it didn&#8217;t matter.<br />
I do remember that the car was extraordinarily quick for its size/engine combo; I once measured a 0-60 time of 9 seconds up a slight grade; I raced later-model 318 Plymouth Dusters and er, dusted them&#8230;<br />
The stock AM radio came with an adjustable &#8220;reverb&#8221; for the rear speaker, you could set it between &#8220;bathroom&#8221; and &#8220;bad acid trip&#8221; settings.<br />
Instead of a cruise control, the speedo had an adjustable extra needle (like an alarm clock), where a buzzer would go off if you exceeded the set speed. (I couldn&#8217;t see the sense of it; the buzzer would merely irritate you to set the pointer to 100mph). The six-way power seat was always set to &#8220;pimp&#8221; mode to accommodate my lanky frame.<br />
Surprisingly, the car ended life after a woman crossed a double-yellow line and crushed the driver&#8217;s side of the car from the back door through the rear fender &#8212; her insurance co. &#8220;totaled&#8221; it for me, and wrote me a check for $500.</p>
<p>Thanks for allowing me to wallow in my automotive past&#8230; ;-)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 86er</title>
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		<dc:creator>86er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Theodore
I wonder what the last production car with a floor-mounted dimmer switch was.
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The last known model I&#039;m aware of was the 1980 F-350 my dad had as a work vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Theodore<br />
I wonder what the last production car with a floor-mounted dimmer switch was.<br />
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<p>The last known model I&#8217;m aware of was the 1980 F-350 my dad had as a work vehicle.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: william442</title>
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		<dc:creator>william442</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story. Nailheads were pretty easy to spot due to the configuration of the rocker arm covers.Knowing which engine was in your GM car was another story. Why did some  Olds 455s use Buick water pumps for example. I worked for the General and never got an answer. If anyone knows the real story, I would love to hear.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike66Chryslers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike66Chryslers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Floor-mounted dimmer switches survived into the 1970&#039;s.  my mom&#039;s second car was a 1973 Dodge Coronet and I remember her stomping on the dimmer switch in the winter trying to get the lights to change.

So who remembers the OTHER foot switch for Wonderbar station-seeking radios?  There was a feature that was ahead of it&#039;s time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Floor-mounted dimmer switches survived into the 1970&#8217;s.  my mom&#8217;s second car was a 1973 Dodge Coronet and I remember her stomping on the dimmer switch in the winter trying to get the lights to change.</p>
<p>So who remembers the OTHER foot switch for Wonderbar station-seeking radios?  There was a feature that was ahead of it&#8217;s time!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Theodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what the last production car with a floor-mounted dimmer switch was.  My &#039;78 LTD had one, and the high-beam indicator light on the dash was red, not blue like they are today.</description>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, floor mounted dimmer switches disappeared because manufacturers finally realized that putting an electrical device where it was very vulnerable to dampness and corrosion was a dumb idea. The potential for mischief wasn&#039;t limited to making it hard to switch between dims and brights; I had a Chrysler that would go entirely dark when the dimmer switch would act up. I suspect the switch was supplied by Lucas.

Now, if you go back far enough, you&#039;ll see holes in floorboards for clutch, brake and gas pedal linkages. The only thing that can be said for that design is that when the rubber boots inevitably deteriorated there was fresh air for the driver&#039;s feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Again, floor mounted dimmer switches disappeared because manufacturers finally realized that putting an electrical device where it was very vulnerable to dampness and corrosion was a dumb idea. The potential for mischief wasn&#8217;t limited to making it hard to switch between dims and brights; I had a Chrysler that would go entirely dark when the dimmer switch would act up. I suspect the switch was supplied by Lucas.</p>
<p>Now, if you go back far enough, you&#8217;ll see holes in floorboards for clutch, brake and gas pedal linkages. The only thing that can be said for that design is that when the rubber boots inevitably deteriorated there was fresh air for the driver&#8217;s feet.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10/30/69, I was driving  home through the twisties in my &#039;47 GMC pickup. I dipped the brights and  they went out. The lights had been flickering previously, but  I was too young and  bullet proof to worry about  such trivialities.  For  what ever  reasons, floor  mounted  dimmers  disappeared circa 1966.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->10/30/69, I was driving  home through the twisties in my &#8216;47 GMC pickup. I dipped the brights and  they went out. The lights had been flickering previously, but  I was too young and  bullet proof to worry about  such trivialities.  For  what ever  reasons, floor  mounted  dimmers  disappeared circa 1966.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: showbizkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>showbizkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to see this gorgeous piece of Detroit iron leaving the country. We Americans think so little of our heritage. But the Euros have been happily buying our old cars, the Japanese have been scooping up our old vinyl records, and the only people making good Soul music these days are 18-year-old British chicks. 

Meanwhile, we&#039;re pumping out gansta rap and Dodge Aspens. Hunh. There&#039;s a corollary here somewhere - I just can&#039;t put my finger on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sad to see this gorgeous piece of Detroit iron leaving the country. We Americans think so little of our heritage. But the Euros have been happily buying our old cars, the Japanese have been scooping up our old vinyl records, and the only people making good Soul music these days are 18-year-old British chicks. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, we&#8217;re pumping out gansta rap and Dodge Aspens. Hunh. There&#8217;s a corollary here somewhere &#8211; I just can&#8217;t put my finger on it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TriShield</title>
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		<dc:creator>TriShield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what Buicks (and American cars really) should always look like, beautiful with presence and distinctly American.  Not Japanese like the new ballyhooed Malibu.</description>
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		<title>By: 86er</title>
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		<dc:creator>86er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Verbal
Thus, the Rochester was rechristened “Quadraflood”.&lt;/em&gt;

Among other monikers such as &quot;Quadrajunk&quot;.  

Carburetors are one thing I don&#039;t miss.</description>
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Thus, the Rochester was rechristened “Quadraflood”.</em></p>
<p>Among other monikers such as &#8220;Quadrajunk&#8221;.  </p>
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		<title>By: Verbal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>menno: &lt;em&gt;Legally required (in many areas) ethanol mixed in the fuels are anywehere from inconvenient to catastrophic for pre-1980’s cars, depending upon the car, by the way.&lt;/em&gt;

Back in the day, I had a &#039;72 Pontiac Grand Ville with a Rochester Quadrajet carburetor.  The float pin had a rubber tip.  When the gas stations started pumping &quot;gasohol&quot;, the rubber degraded, causing the pin to get stuck.  Thus, the Rochester was rechristened &quot;Quadraflood&quot;.

Concur about ghettotastic rims on classics.  Surfing through the ads on craigslist, it is amazing how many people are selling old POS Detroiters with a set of 22&#039;s that are worth more than the rest of the car.  Who decided this was a good idea?</description>
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<p>Back in the day, I had a &#8216;72 Pontiac Grand Ville with a Rochester Quadrajet carburetor.  The float pin had a rubber tip.  When the gas stations started pumping &#8220;gasohol&#8221;, the rubber degraded, causing the pin to get stuck.  Thus, the Rochester was rechristened &#8220;Quadraflood&#8221;.</p>
<p>Concur about ghettotastic rims on classics.  Surfing through the ads on craigslist, it is amazing how many people are selling old POS Detroiters with a set of 22&#8217;s that are worth more than the rest of the car.  Who decided this was a good idea?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mud:

So&#039;s the guy buying it -- which is why the OG wheels are in the back seet.

And, to be fair -- these wheels are less pimp than they are Rock-a-Billy car gang.</description>
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<p>So&#8217;s the guy buying it &#8212; which is why the OG wheels are in the back seet.</p>
<p>And, to be fair &#8212; these wheels are less pimp than they are Rock-a-Billy car gang.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord I am SO tired of classic cars with pimp wheels.</description>
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		<title>By: jgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are some bling-tastic rims.  Thankfully they didn&#039;t hop the ride height like too many ghetto-fab Caprices I see.

Love the brass accents on the rear fascia though.</description>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick note about the engine. 

The owner had told us that it was a 401 Nailhead. Which sounded fishy to me, as that wasn&#039;t available with that transmission in 1965. but hey, swaps happen. 

The LeSabre 400 came with a 300 small block.

However, after checking the block numbers (and Farago thinks he&#039;s the only one with OCD) turns out that this puppy as a &#039;69 Buick 350.

Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A quick note about the engine. </p>
<p>The owner had told us that it was a 401 Nailhead. Which sounded fishy to me, as that wasn&#8217;t available with that transmission in 1965. but hey, swaps happen. </p>
<p>The LeSabre 400 came with a 300 small block.</p>
<p>However, after checking the block numbers (and Farago thinks he&#8217;s the only one with OCD) turns out that this puppy as a &#8216;69 Buick 350.</p>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
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		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queensmet,

Same here, I never had a floor mounted bright switch go south on me (I also grew up in NJ). And yes I think it was the Japanese who first put it on the control stalk, although I don&#039;t know if the Europeans did it before them or not.</description>
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<p>Same here, I never had a floor mounted bright switch go south on me (I also grew up in NJ). And yes I think it was the Japanese who first put it on the control stalk, although I don&#8217;t know if the Europeans did it before them or not.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Queensmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queensmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall it was not Detroit that moved away from floor maounted headlight switches, but Japan, but I could be wrong, it was just that all Japanese cars had it before all North Amercian cars. AND it was always in the same place. Today, when renting a car, you have to read the manual to figure out which stick on teh column turns on the lights and what you have to do to activate the high beams.
Never had one freeze up either and I live North of the MAson-Dixon line. Must have been lucky.</description>
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Never had one freeze up either and I live North of the MAson-Dixon line. Must have been lucky.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, what a beautiful car. I don&#039;t think I&#039;d want to own one, but it&#039;s sure nice to look at. It just exudes &lt;i&gt;class&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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