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	<title>Comments on: Curbside Classics: 1971 Small Cars Comparison: Number 1 and GM Deadly Sin #2 — Chevrolet Vega</title>
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		<title>By: wmba</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great trip down memory lane. In late &#039;74, my parents committed grievous car-buying error #2. Having watched a &#039;71 Pinto dissolve before their eyes in 3 years and bequething it to me, they went out and bought a Vega. Argh.

It had a 3 speed auto and no headroom in back. The engine throbbed like no other I have ever driven.  Thrashing noises doesn&#039;t quite describe the sound of piston rings scratching themselves to death on the cylinder walls. The engine itself looked like an unpainted hot water radiator newly liberated from its mould.

After they had it for 3 years, I took it to the bodyman for some freshening. He wouldn&#039;t even come out of his garage to look at it! A lot of persuading, and he relented and looked at it. Scratched his head again and again. Nothing wrong with it at all. Didn&#039;t need any work. No rust, canya believe it?

Nor did that engine use any oil. 

Naturally, three weeks later, a car failed to stop at a sign, and my Mom T-boned the Chevelle at 35 mph or so. Ruined the Vega and the Chevelle, and broke my Mom&#039;s collarbone.

Then they went and bought a Mercury Zephyr, whose 200 cubic inch six actually had less advertised hp than the Vega.  (89 at 2900, it was a hottie!)

When that croaked 8 years later, it was Mazda 626 time. What a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Another great trip down memory lane. In late &#8216;74, my parents committed grievous car-buying error #2. Having watched a &#8216;71 Pinto dissolve before their eyes in 3 years and bequething it to me, they went out and bought a Vega. Argh.</p>
<p>It had a 3 speed auto and no headroom in back. The engine throbbed like no other I have ever driven.  Thrashing noises doesn&#8217;t quite describe the sound of piston rings scratching themselves to death on the cylinder walls. The engine itself looked like an unpainted hot water radiator newly liberated from its mould.</p>
<p>After they had it for 3 years, I took it to the bodyman for some freshening. He wouldn&#8217;t even come out of his garage to look at it! A lot of persuading, and he relented and looked at it. Scratched his head again and again. Nothing wrong with it at all. Didn&#8217;t need any work. No rust, canya believe it?</p>
<p>Nor did that engine use any oil. </p>
<p>Naturally, three weeks later, a car failed to stop at a sign, and my Mom T-boned the Chevelle at 35 mph or so. Ruined the Vega and the Chevelle, and broke my Mom&#8217;s collarbone.</p>
<p>Then they went and bought a Mercury Zephyr, whose 200 cubic inch six actually had less advertised hp than the Vega.  (89 at 2900, it was a hottie!)</p>
<p>When that croaked 8 years later, it was Mazda 626 time. What a difference.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drove one of these with a corvette 350 and a dana rear. Lots of fun.</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;strong&gt;Paul Niedermeyer&lt;/strong&gt;: This is a terrific writeup; I&#039;m going to pick a few nits now, but I&#039;ll buyyabeer next time I&#039;m in Lane County. 

&lt;em&gt;GM’s corporate styling was still at the top of their game in 1971&lt;/em&gt;

Styling is subjective, but you can&#039;t seriously say this until half the tube of airplane glue is…uh…dude…wait, what? GM&#039;s corporate styling tripped and fell off the floor in 1971, viz the newly obese, bloated, ungainly-from-any-angle &#039;71 Caprice/Impala. Ingvar has done a good job describing the specific elements of the Vega&#039;s maldesign.

&lt;em&gt;cast-iron head on top of the Vega aluminum block. A world first too, I assume.&lt;/em&gt;

Chrysler put about 50,000 slant-6 225 engines with die-cast aluminum open-deck blocks (with high-nickel iron sleeves) in late &#039;61 to early &#039;63 passenger cars, including one of mine. Every one of &#039;em had an iron head. They work well and reliably — surprisingly so, given the infancy of bimetal engines and 1961 head gasket technology — and gave no especial trouble to those owners who used glycol coolant year round; that was still a tall &quot;if&quot; in America in the 1960s.  Had aluminum not cost so much more than iron, slant-6s made of the latter material would&#039;ve become the seldom-seen variety instead of those made of the former. 


&lt;em&gt;136 lb/ft&lt;/em&gt;

This reads &quot;A hundred and thirty-six pounds per foot&quot;. You mean &lt;strong&gt;136 lb·ft&lt;/strong&gt;. If religious beliefs prevent you using the correct mid dot, then &quot;136 lb. ft.&quot; or &quot;136 lb-ft&quot; are acceptable substitutes.

@&lt;strong&gt;gzuckier&lt;/strong&gt;:
&lt;em&gt;you couldn’t turn the fan off, presumably to meet some kind of federal fresh air requirement.&lt;/em&gt;

No such requirement exists, nor ever has. This idea of the blower fan coming on whenever the ignition&#039;s switched on seemed to catch hold across Detroit in the early &#039;70s; I don&#039;t know who first did it. The idea was to pressurise the interior of the car slightly so all air leaks would be from the inside out, thus minimising dust ingress and wind whistle. This was probably cheaper than sealing the car properly. The automakers hyped it as a great new comfort feature, but it was definitely not universally popular. Chrysler printed a TSB in 1973 or &#039;74 explaining how to disable the full-time blower, but as far as I know GM told complainers to go hang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@<strong>Paul Niedermeyer</strong>: This is a terrific writeup; I&#8217;m going to pick a few nits now, but I&#8217;ll buyyabeer next time I&#8217;m in Lane County. </p>
<p><em>GM’s corporate styling was still at the top of their game in 1971</em></p>
<p>Styling is subjective, but you can&#8217;t seriously say this until half the tube of airplane glue is…uh…dude…wait, what? GM&#8217;s corporate styling tripped and fell off the floor in 1971, viz the newly obese, bloated, ungainly-from-any-angle &#8216;71 Caprice/Impala. Ingvar has done a good job describing the specific elements of the Vega&#8217;s maldesign.</p>
<p><em>cast-iron head on top of the Vega aluminum block. A world first too, I assume.</em></p>
<p>Chrysler put about 50,000 slant-6 225 engines with die-cast aluminum open-deck blocks (with high-nickel iron sleeves) in late &#8216;61 to early &#8216;63 passenger cars, including one of mine. Every one of &#8216;em had an iron head. They work well and reliably — surprisingly so, given the infancy of bimetal engines and 1961 head gasket technology — and gave no especial trouble to those owners who used glycol coolant year round; that was still a tall &#8220;if&#8221; in America in the 1960s.  Had aluminum not cost so much more than iron, slant-6s made of the latter material would&#8217;ve become the seldom-seen variety instead of those made of the former. </p>
<p><em>136 lb/ft</em></p>
<p>This reads &#8220;A hundred and thirty-six pounds per foot&#8221;. You mean <strong>136 lb·ft</strong>. If religious beliefs prevent you using the correct mid dot, then &#8220;136 lb. ft.&#8221; or &#8220;136 lb-ft&#8221; are acceptable substitutes.</p>
<p>@<strong>gzuckier</strong>:<br />
<em>you couldn’t turn the fan off, presumably to meet some kind of federal fresh air requirement.</em></p>
<p>No such requirement exists, nor ever has. This idea of the blower fan coming on whenever the ignition&#8217;s switched on seemed to catch hold across Detroit in the early &#8217;70s; I don&#8217;t know who first did it. The idea was to pressurise the interior of the car slightly so all air leaks would be from the inside out, thus minimising dust ingress and wind whistle. This was probably cheaper than sealing the car properly. The automakers hyped it as a great new comfort feature, but it was definitely not universally popular. Chrysler printed a TSB in 1973 or &#8216;74 explaining how to disable the full-time blower, but as far as I know GM told complainers to go hang.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: panzerfaust</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You managed to resurrect memories of my experiences with my Fiat 128 coupe and the Vega in the same story. While living in New Hampshire from 78-80 my room mate bought a 72 Vega notchback. Seven years of Eastern salt had eaten through most of the usual places and it had recieved a lot of fiberglass &#039;bodywork&#039; coverd with a cheap sliver metallic paintjob. But it also burned oil like a tramp steamer, so we decided to rebuild it ourselves. We stripped it down, pulled the head off and then the block out of the car without an engine hoist. 
The bare block was delivered to the machine shop by myself we managed to easily tuck it in the trunk of my 128.  Yes, it was sleeved. 
I think the first word that came to mind when driving the Vega was that the engine was &#039;asthmatic.&quot;  It should have easily out performed my little Fiat based on size alone. 
And if the troubles with the Vega weren&#039;t enough they were carried on through the Monza, which my Bostonian friend nicknamed &quot;the Monstah.&quot;
  The Kammback was a neat looking little car for its day and not a bad concept. Execution of the concept of course was the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->You managed to resurrect memories of my experiences with my Fiat 128 coupe and the Vega in the same story. While living in New Hampshire from 78-80 my room mate bought a 72 Vega notchback. Seven years of Eastern salt had eaten through most of the usual places and it had recieved a lot of fiberglass &#8216;bodywork&#8217; coverd with a cheap sliver metallic paintjob. But it also burned oil like a tramp steamer, so we decided to rebuild it ourselves. We stripped it down, pulled the head off and then the block out of the car without an engine hoist.<br />
The bare block was delivered to the machine shop by myself we managed to easily tuck it in the trunk of my 128.  Yes, it was sleeved.<br />
I think the first word that came to mind when driving the Vega was that the engine was &#8216;asthmatic.&#8221;  It should have easily out performed my little Fiat based on size alone.<br />
And if the troubles with the Vega weren&#8217;t enough they were carried on through the Monza, which my Bostonian friend nicknamed &#8220;the Monstah.&#8221;<br />
  The Kammback was a neat looking little car for its day and not a bad concept. Execution of the concept of course was the issue.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: urS4red</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>capdeblu : 
August 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm 


This reminds me of my first car. A used 1971 Mercury Capri. Although it looked good with its silver and black vinyl roof–this car was a total POS.

The car eventually would not go into reverse. This took some planning when traveling. The parking brake did not work which required me to carry a brick to place behind the tires to keep it from rolling down a hill. 

The a/c never got cold and using it would cause the engine to overheat. One day after hitting a pothole the engine mounts broke. Then the drive train collapsed. All of this with under 50,000 miles.


I also had a 1971 Capri. Mine had the 1600 Kent engine.  I had the same problems you did plus the following:
--Seat back broke while going up a hill cause me to fall backwards while going up a hill.
--side window fell out while driving.
--shifter came off in my hand.
--blew black smoke like one of 007&#039;s cars
--headlight switch caught on fire.</description>
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August 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm </p>
<p>This reminds me of my first car. A used 1971 Mercury Capri. Although it looked good with its silver and black vinyl roof–this car was a total POS.</p>
<p>The car eventually would not go into reverse. This took some planning when traveling. The parking brake did not work which required me to carry a brick to place behind the tires to keep it from rolling down a hill. </p>
<p>The a/c never got cold and using it would cause the engine to overheat. One day after hitting a pothole the engine mounts broke. Then the drive train collapsed. All of this with under 50,000 miles.</p>
<p>I also had a 1971 Capri. Mine had the 1600 Kent engine.  I had the same problems you did plus the following:<br />
&#8211;Seat back broke while going up a hill cause me to fall backwards while going up a hill.<br />
&#8211;side window fell out while driving.<br />
&#8211;shifter came off in my hand.<br />
&#8211;blew black smoke like one of 007&#8217;s cars<br />
&#8211;headlight switch caught on fire.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gzuckier</title>
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		<dc:creator>gzuckier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yeah, i forgot; from my experience with a lot of rental vegas at the time: the first car i ever experienced where you couldn&#039;t turn the fan off, presumably to meet some kind of federal fresh air requirement.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Baruth,

Porsche and Mercedes pioneered the successful use of silicon-aluminum blocks back in the late seventies, with the 928 and MB V8&#039;s. Both those engines had an excellent rep for longevity, at least in regard to the basic internals. Just about every alloy block engine in the last twenty years or so in the world has used it. Porosity is a different problem , to my understanding.

John Bond of Road and Track was a notorious kook; and his statement regarding the Vega&#039;s handling was not taken seriously, except by the FTC, which sparked and investigation. 

&quot;Handling&quot; is too broad a concept to apply the phrase: &quot;best handling car ever sold in America&quot;. Just saying it makes the comment and commentator suspect. There are too many parameters, and without specifying them, it&#039;s an empty quote, and one that many drivers of other cars at the time would take offense (or laugh) at: BMW 2002; Alfa Romeo GTV; Camaro Z28; Mustang Boss 302; just to name a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Jack Baruth,</p>
<p>Porsche and Mercedes pioneered the successful use of silicon-aluminum blocks back in the late seventies, with the 928 and MB V8&#8217;s. Both those engines had an excellent rep for longevity, at least in regard to the basic internals. Just about every alloy block engine in the last twenty years or so in the world has used it. Porosity is a different problem , to my understanding.</p>
<p>John Bond of Road and Track was a notorious kook; and his statement regarding the Vega&#8217;s handling was not taken seriously, except by the FTC, which sparked and investigation. </p>
<p>&#8220;Handling&#8221; is too broad a concept to apply the phrase: &#8220;best handling car ever sold in America&#8221;. Just saying it makes the comment and commentator suspect. There are too many parameters, and without specifying them, it&#8217;s an empty quote, and one that many drivers of other cars at the time would take offense (or laugh) at: BMW 2002; Alfa Romeo GTV; Camaro Z28; Mustang Boss 302; just to name a few.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: fincar1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That craigslist ad that was quoted contained a sentence that bugs me worse than anything &quot;It ran when parked.&quot; Of course it did, idiot, or you couldn&#039;t have parked it. When did you park it, yesterday or twenty years ago. /rant

I rented a Vega with Powerglide in Las Vegas. Scream up to about 30 or 35 in Low, then it shifts to High and you&#039;re at idle speed and well below the torque peak. Drive down the road, the a/c (which did still work) cuts in and it&#039;s like you drove into molasses. What a car.

On the other hand, my 75 Monza fastback with 262 V8 and 4-speed was one of my all-time favorite Chevys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That craigslist ad that was quoted contained a sentence that bugs me worse than anything &#8220;It ran when parked.&#8221; Of course it did, idiot, or you couldn&#8217;t have parked it. When did you park it, yesterday or twenty years ago. /rant</p>
<p>I rented a Vega with Powerglide in Las Vegas. Scream up to about 30 or 35 in Low, then it shifts to High and you&#8217;re at idle speed and well below the torque peak. Drive down the road, the a/c (which did still work) cuts in and it&#8217;s like you drove into molasses. What a car.</p>
<p>On the other hand, my 75 Monza fastback with 262 V8 and 4-speed was one of my all-time favorite Chevys.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jack Baruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Baruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding impregnated aluminum: &quot;Mercedes and Porsche went on to perfect this process&quot;. Well, yes, but not before Porsche had to replace thousands of 1997 Boxster engines for porosity.

@Detroit-Iron: I would absolutely believe that a Vega outhandled any Porsche you could buy in 1971. The chrome-bumper 911s were terrifying to drive at speed. Let history show that the first decent-handling street Porsche was the Audi-built 924.</description>
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<p>@Detroit-Iron: I would absolutely believe that a Vega outhandled any Porsche you could buy in 1971. The chrome-bumper 911s were terrifying to drive at speed. Let history show that the first decent-handling street Porsche was the Audi-built 924.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1976, I drove a 1970 Chevrolet taxi in San Diego that had 400k or 500k miles on it (the mechanic forgot how many times the 99k odometer turned over). The engine had been rebuilt along the way.

Slant six Mopars were good for several hundred k miles, and were very popular as taxis, and as reliable long-running used cars in the sixties and still today.

My &#039;66 Ford F-100 has turned its odometer at least once, probably twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->In 1976, I drove a 1970 Chevrolet taxi in San Diego that had 400k or 500k miles on it (the mechanic forgot how many times the 99k odometer turned over). The engine had been rebuilt along the way.</p>
<p>Slant six Mopars were good for several hundred k miles, and were very popular as taxis, and as reliable long-running used cars in the sixties and still today.</p>
<p>My &#8216;66 Ford F-100 has turned its odometer at least once, probably twice.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geeber</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;golden2husky: Did anything back then reliably make it past 100K? People of my dad’s generation always considered this a milestone. Today, anything can cross this threshold. Other than you occasional Mercedes, was there any brand that easily eclipsed 100K without rebuilds?&lt;/i&gt;

The Mercedes models of those years had their problems, too. During the 1960s, American cars were, as a whole, the most reliable cars on the market. 

It was quite common to reach 100,000 miles in the 1960s full-size and intermediate cars (with a few exceptions - the 1961-63 BOP compacts were interesting cars with some teething problems) without any major problems. 

Most American cars during that time were bought by people who often didn&#039;t even bother with oil changes, let alone regular maintenance, while imports were more likely to be bought by enthusiasts who paid attention to such things.

Put a 1960s Mercedes in the hands of a typical 1960s Chevrolet owner and it wouldn&#039;t last for 40,000 miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>golden2husky: Did anything back then reliably make it past 100K? People of my dad’s generation always considered this a milestone. Today, anything can cross this threshold. Other than you occasional Mercedes, was there any brand that easily eclipsed 100K without rebuilds?</i></p>
<p>The Mercedes models of those years had their problems, too. During the 1960s, American cars were, as a whole, the most reliable cars on the market. </p>
<p>It was quite common to reach 100,000 miles in the 1960s full-size and intermediate cars (with a few exceptions &#8211; the 1961-63 BOP compacts were interesting cars with some teething problems) without any major problems. </p>
<p>Most American cars during that time were bought by people who often didn&#8217;t even bother with oil changes, let alone regular maintenance, while imports were more likely to be bought by enthusiasts who paid attention to such things.</p>
<p>Put a 1960s Mercedes in the hands of a typical 1960s Chevrolet owner and it wouldn&#8217;t last for 40,000 miles.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Campisi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Campisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father often reminisces about his teenage years as one of the &quot;car people&quot; in the greater Los Angeles area. He actually doesn&#039;t remember the Vega being all that bad a car; having sleeves installed in an engine or replacing it with a V8 weren&#039;t that big a deal, he says, and other than that they were about as good as anything else. Vegas were considerably cheaper than everything else at the time (and rust was never a problem in California), so some engine work was never even close to enough of a hassle to make Vegas a bad used-car proposition.</description>
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		<title>By: Ingvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;The side and rear styling is very clean and well proportioned.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

I would say that it is anything BUT proportional. From a designing standpoint, the wheelbase is too short, the rear wheels pushed too far forwards towards the bulkhead, the front wheels is positioned too far forward, the rear overhang is too big, and the roof too low and flat. It has all the design traits of a mini pony car, and none of the traits needed for a small economy car. It is beautiful, it has a racy stance, it is sleek in the longer, lower, wider fashion. But proportional? Not for its intended purpose as an import beater. The body hardpoints was made to full use in the Datsun 280Z-beater, the Chevy Monza. And that should speak all of proportions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong>&#8220;The side and rear styling is very clean and well proportioned.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>I would say that it is anything BUT proportional. From a designing standpoint, the wheelbase is too short, the rear wheels pushed too far forwards towards the bulkhead, the front wheels is positioned too far forward, the rear overhang is too big, and the roof too low and flat. It has all the design traits of a mini pony car, and none of the traits needed for a small economy car. It is beautiful, it has a racy stance, it is sleek in the longer, lower, wider fashion. But proportional? Not for its intended purpose as an import beater. The body hardpoints was made to full use in the Datsun 280Z-beater, the Chevy Monza. And that should speak all of proportions&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: venator</title>
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		<dc:creator>venator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well, one can not win them all (or, in the Vega technology&#039;s case, any). But, I must admit, it was a beautiful car to look at, until it rusted away, right in front of one&#039;s eyes...</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>terry and ttacgreg,

GM Saginaw transmissions replaced the Opel units after &#039;73. And Opel had a three-speed unit in Europe too. The Powerglide was replaced by the THM after/in &#039;73 too.

The block design was intrinsically flawed, apart from the aluminum bores. Thanks for the additional details.</description>
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<p>GM Saginaw transmissions replaced the Opel units after &#8216;73. And Opel had a three-speed unit in Europe too. The Powerglide was replaced by the THM after/in &#8216;73 too.</p>
<p>The block design was intrinsically flawed, apart from the aluminum bores. Thanks for the additional details.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ttacgreg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ttacgreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry . . .  .
   Your post jogged my memory. I was aware all along that the  manual transmissions were Opel. At one point I had some of the parts needed for service, the 3rd  gear syncros in my hand. I was calling a mid level manager to see what the hold up on the remaining parts might be. Even after telling him I was looking right at the packaging and it said GM and Opel, and &quot;manufactured by Opel&quot; on it, he still absolutely denied the fact it was an Opel transmission, stating the the Vega was a 100% American built car, and that was one of the selling points about the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Terry . . .  .<br />
   Your post jogged my memory. I was aware all along that the  manual transmissions were Opel. At one point I had some of the parts needed for service, the 3rd  gear syncros in my hand. I was calling a mid level manager to see what the hold up on the remaining parts might be. Even after telling him I was looking right at the packaging and it said GM and Opel, and &#8220;manufactured by Opel&#8221; on it, he still absolutely denied the fact it was an Opel transmission, stating the the Vega was a 100% American built car, and that was one of the selling points about the car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all!
    The Vega 3-speed was actually the exact same gearbox as the Opel 4-speed MINUS A GEAR!!
  Like another poster, I had a &#039;72 Opel Manta Rallye, and it was light-years ahead of the Vega in all areas of technology, such as it was at the time.
 For you gearheads:
  1) The cam timing belt was tensioned by sliding the water pump across its paper gasket.
  2) The  4 cylinders were siameesed together--but this open-block design didnt have the cylinders supported at the block mating surface in any way. These engines wore out head gaskets from the cylinders vibrating back and forth.
 3) To get the torque, the cam lobes were extremely pointed, and valve adjustment was  done by turning a tapered Allen screw in the side of each lifter. intake clearance was .015&quot;, exhaust was .030(best I can remember--in &#039;77 I was a tech at a Chevy dealer), and these engines were LOUD.
 4) These engines vibrated so much that an 8-lb counterweight was bolted to the transmission tailhousing.
 5) The rear brake shoe adjuster was basically a 1-time use part. Special tool required, or you were DONE.
 The Manta and 1900 sedan were poor-man&#039;s BMW 2002s. The Vega wasnt even a poor man&#039;s Opel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hello all!<br />
    The Vega 3-speed was actually the exact same gearbox as the Opel 4-speed MINUS A GEAR!!<br />
  Like another poster, I had a &#8216;72 Opel Manta Rallye, and it was light-years ahead of the Vega in all areas of technology, such as it was at the time.<br />
 For you gearheads:<br />
  1) The cam timing belt was tensioned by sliding the water pump across its paper gasket.<br />
  2) The  4 cylinders were siameesed together&#8211;but this open-block design didnt have the cylinders supported at the block mating surface in any way. These engines wore out head gaskets from the cylinders vibrating back and forth.<br />
 3) To get the torque, the cam lobes were extremely pointed, and valve adjustment was  done by turning a tapered Allen screw in the side of each lifter. intake clearance was .015&#8243;, exhaust was .030(best I can remember&#8211;in &#8216;77 I was a tech at a Chevy dealer), and these engines were LOUD.<br />
 4) These engines vibrated so much that an 8-lb counterweight was bolted to the transmission tailhousing.<br />
 5) The rear brake shoe adjuster was basically a 1-time use part. Special tool required, or you were DONE.<br />
 The Manta and 1900 sedan were poor-man&#8217;s BMW 2002s. The Vega wasnt even a poor man&#8217;s Opel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZekeToronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZekeToronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Other than you occasional Mercedes, was there any brand that easily eclipsed 100K without rebuilds?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d say Volvos (which were considerably cheaper compared to Benzes back in the day than they are now), qualified. Very under-stressed engines (even for a long time after they started bolting turbos on them). Lots went 200+ with nothing but brake and exhaust work.

The reputation of the bricks (and I would include the 140-series and Amazons) was for many years very well deserved. (Disclosure: I&#039;m a former Volvo dealer, but no longer in the car business).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Other than you occasional Mercedes, was there any brand that easily eclipsed 100K without rebuilds?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say Volvos (which were considerably cheaper compared to Benzes back in the day than they are now), qualified. Very under-stressed engines (even for a long time after they started bolting turbos on them). Lots went 200+ with nothing but brake and exhaust work.</p>
<p>The reputation of the bricks (and I would include the 140-series and Amazons) was for many years very well deserved. (Disclosure: I&#8217;m a former Volvo dealer, but no longer in the car business).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: newfdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>newfdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this vehicle brings back memories-and not good ones, either.  What amazes me is how virtually all of the automotive press missed out on this thing.  When Chevrolet first released the Vega in 1971, the press was jubilant over the  features of the Vega and rather down on the Pinto which was regarded as a simple and crude device.  If memory serve me right, John R. Bond (who published Road &amp; Track) got into hot water with the Federal Trade Commission by claiming it was the best handling automobile built in the U.S. at that time.
Within a few years when all the problems of the Vega started coming to the surface-engine problems, body rust, poor overall quality to name a few..and nobody in the automotive press would openly admit they&#039;d really missed the mark on their evaluation of this vehicle.  Maybe I was young and naive at the time, but I&#039;ve been rather suspicious about how the major automotive magazines report on their experiences  with automobiles and  now rely primarily on Consumer Reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow, this vehicle brings back memories-and not good ones, either.  What amazes me is how virtually all of the automotive press missed out on this thing.  When Chevrolet first released the Vega in 1971, the press was jubilant over the  features of the Vega and rather down on the Pinto which was regarded as a simple and crude device.  If memory serve me right, John R. Bond (who published Road &amp; Track) got into hot water with the Federal Trade Commission by claiming it was the best handling automobile built in the U.S. at that time.<br />
Within a few years when all the problems of the Vega started coming to the surface-engine problems, body rust, poor overall quality to name a few..and nobody in the automotive press would openly admit they&#8217;d really missed the mark on their evaluation of this vehicle.  Maybe I was young and naive at the time, but I&#8217;ve been rather suspicious about how the major automotive magazines report on their experiences  with automobiles and  now rely primarily on Consumer Reports.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
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		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;My dad was a HUGE GM booster, and even he was surprised when a 50s-60s GM car crossed the 100k mark.&lt;/em&gt;...

Did anything back then reliably make it past 100K?  People of my dad&#039;s generation always considered this a milestone.  Today, anything can cross this threshold.  Other than you occasional Mercedes, was there any brand that easily eclipsed 100K without rebuilds?  Just thinking of how poorly carbs managed fuel, cylinder washdown seems like a given.  My dad said ring jobs were a common repair.  In all my years of driving, I removed only one head.
Being that I was not even 10 when this gem (which was supposed to be called Gemini...GM Mini...get it...) was built, one can&#039;t help but wonder how so many basic problems existed.  Most running gear on intermediates/full size cars back then were bulletproof and way more durable than what came from across the pond, let alone Asia.  How could any prototypes not exhibit these problems during durability testing?  Did GM simply ignore their engineers just to save money?  Did it not dawn on anybody that customers would begin to look elsewhere?  Back then, the quality of assembly was fully dependent on the workers (unlike much of the robotic assembly of today) and the workers often didn&#039;t give a shit for a variety of reasons. 
I&#039;m glad that I never had to deal with first generation small cars.  My first car was a &#039;72 Fury and it was reliable as an anvil and it didn&#039;t show any rust until it was 15 years old...impressive for pre-rustproofing days...and it was put into storage with over 250K on the clock...what was Detroit thinking with these little POS&#039;s...I guess their heart was never into the small rides...
Funny to think that when my parents considered their first Japanese car,they were dissuaded because the dealer was a long distance away...today, the nearest GM dealer to me is 20 miles away, yet major Japanese dealers are but 5 miles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>My dad was a HUGE GM booster, and even he was surprised when a 50s-60s GM car crossed the 100k mark.</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>Did anything back then reliably make it past 100K?  People of my dad&#8217;s generation always considered this a milestone.  Today, anything can cross this threshold.  Other than you occasional Mercedes, was there any brand that easily eclipsed 100K without rebuilds?  Just thinking of how poorly carbs managed fuel, cylinder washdown seems like a given.  My dad said ring jobs were a common repair.  In all my years of driving, I removed only one head.<br />
Being that I was not even 10 when this gem (which was supposed to be called Gemini&#8230;GM Mini&#8230;get it&#8230;) was built, one can&#8217;t help but wonder how so many basic problems existed.  Most running gear on intermediates/full size cars back then were bulletproof and way more durable than what came from across the pond, let alone Asia.  How could any prototypes not exhibit these problems during durability testing?  Did GM simply ignore their engineers just to save money?  Did it not dawn on anybody that customers would begin to look elsewhere?  Back then, the quality of assembly was fully dependent on the workers (unlike much of the robotic assembly of today) and the workers often didn&#8217;t give a shit for a variety of reasons.<br />
I&#8217;m glad that I never had to deal with first generation small cars.  My first car was a &#8216;72 Fury and it was reliable as an anvil and it didn&#8217;t show any rust until it was 15 years old&#8230;impressive for pre-rustproofing days&#8230;and it was put into storage with over 250K on the clock&#8230;what was Detroit thinking with these little POS&#8217;s&#8230;I guess their heart was never into the small rides&#8230;<br />
Funny to think that when my parents considered their first Japanese car,they were dissuaded because the dealer was a long distance away&#8230;today, the nearest GM dealer to me is 20 miles away, yet major Japanese dealers are but 5 miles&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Zarba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes Vega memories...

&quot;Fill the oil, check the gas&quot; 

A buddy had a 1973 GT Wagon, Green with black vinyl interior.  4-speed, thank God. 

Handled surprisingly well, for the day.  Cornered relatively flat and didn&#039;t plow mercilessly like most Detroit iron of the day. Credit the Wide Oval bias-plies.

No A/C, not that it would have worked worth a flip anyway. 

Had great times in that car; it was traded in 1979 for a new Sunbird coupe. His graduation &quot;present&quot; from his cheap dad. Horrible, boring POS.  At least the Vega had character.  Mostly bad, but character nonetheless. 

Me, I  had a 1963 Chevy II Nova. 230CID 6, powerglide. Handled much better after a set of Michelin XZX&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ah, yes Vega memories&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Fill the oil, check the gas&#8221; </p>
<p>A buddy had a 1973 GT Wagon, Green with black vinyl interior.  4-speed, thank God. </p>
<p>Handled surprisingly well, for the day.  Cornered relatively flat and didn&#8217;t plow mercilessly like most Detroit iron of the day. Credit the Wide Oval bias-plies.</p>
<p>No A/C, not that it would have worked worth a flip anyway. </p>
<p>Had great times in that car; it was traded in 1979 for a new Sunbird coupe. His graduation &#8220;present&#8221; from his cheap dad. Horrible, boring POS.  At least the Vega had character.  Mostly bad, but character nonetheless. </p>
<p>Me, I  had a 1963 Chevy II Nova. 230CID 6, powerglide. Handled much better after a set of Michelin XZX&#8217;s.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could the Vega have any flaws -- after all, when the car came out the advertisements called it &quot;The small car that does everything well&quot;.

I&#039;d love to know the inside story of the Vega&#039;s many deficiencies. Bean counters are always blamed but I have to think sheer incompetence on the part of engineers had to be a big factor.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d love to know the inside story of the Vega&#8217;s many deficiencies. Bean counters are always blamed but I have to think sheer incompetence on the part of engineers had to be a big factor.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Greg Locock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Locock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review. The side and rear styling is very clean and well proportioned. The headlights are horrid, sadly.</description>
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		<title>By: beken</title>
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		<dc:creator>beken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I owned a `1974 Pontiac Astre&#039; of same color as above, until 1985.  It was a base notchback with a 4 speed manual transmission.  It also had a glove box.  It made for a great high school shop class project.  I learned body work, replacing sheet metal and painting to fix rust.  I learned to rebuild an engine by boring and putting steel sleaves in the cylinders.  I was constantly adjusting the valves...every 2 to 3 weeks in fact.  I replaced my own clutch and timing belts and did my own carburator rebuilds.  When I sold the car (somebody paid money to me for it), the only thing that was still original on it was the battery.  Delco made great batteries back then.  I also managed a top speed run and got the car to 112mph.  I&#039;m amazed I&#039;m still alive today.  It wasn&#039;t a very good car, but it wasn&#039;t that bad either....or maybe it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I owned a `1974 Pontiac Astre&#8217; of same color as above, until 1985.  It was a base notchback with a 4 speed manual transmission.  It also had a glove box.  It made for a great high school shop class project.  I learned body work, replacing sheet metal and painting to fix rust.  I learned to rebuild an engine by boring and putting steel sleaves in the cylinders.  I was constantly adjusting the valves&#8230;every 2 to 3 weeks in fact.  I replaced my own clutch and timing belts and did my own carburator rebuilds.  When I sold the car (somebody paid money to me for it), the only thing that was still original on it was the battery.  Delco made great batteries back then.  I also managed a top speed run and got the car to 112mph.  I&#8217;m amazed I&#8217;m still alive today.  It wasn&#8217;t a very good car, but it wasn&#8217;t that bad either&#8230;.or maybe it was.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa...I recall a girl friend who purchased a bronze Vega brand new off the Chevy lot. This was 1972.  I recall the life, er...uh very short life of the car.   She had to trade it off at the 11th month of ownership, reasons: engine was smoking and failing, transmission was beginning to act weird, rust forming, pieces and parts literally falling off the thing. In the end she was almost afraid to drive this thing-and she didn&#039;t trash her cars.  The best part is yet to come.  She traded it at the same dealer she purchased, they took the car in trade and quietly sent it packing to a salvage yard-not even one year old on the road!!!

Is that some sort of record??? who knows.

Of course the flip side is I had a 1973 Pinto wagon, couldnt kill the darn thing, 175,000 miles, engine and trans never messed with.  toughest thing I had ever owned and I trashed and thrashed it trying to kill it.

Isn&#039;t life grand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Whoa&#8230;I recall a girl friend who purchased a bronze Vega brand new off the Chevy lot. This was 1972.  I recall the life, er&#8230;uh very short life of the car.   She had to trade it off at the 11th month of ownership, reasons: engine was smoking and failing, transmission was beginning to act weird, rust forming, pieces and parts literally falling off the thing. In the end she was almost afraid to drive this thing-and she didn&#8217;t trash her cars.  The best part is yet to come.  She traded it at the same dealer she purchased, they took the car in trade and quietly sent it packing to a salvage yard-not even one year old on the road!!!</p>
<p>Is that some sort of record??? who knows.</p>
<p>Of course the flip side is I had a 1973 Pinto wagon, couldnt kill the darn thing, 175,000 miles, engine and trans never messed with.  toughest thing I had ever owned and I trashed and thrashed it trying to kill it.</p>
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