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		<title>By: Civarlo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-2/#comment-1567985</link>
		<dc:creator>Civarlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A typical find on a Willamette Valley street, right up there with some bicyclist in a rain poncho. Love it. Glad to see that some of these are around. Reminds me of my brother&#039;s 1978 Datsun B210; the predecessor of this model. The Iron Cockroach: ugly as sin, but wouldn&#039;t die. Had a hardy character that&#039;s rather hard to describe in much depth. Seems like the mechanicals on these things last long after the surrounding body panels have rusted to pieces.</description>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
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		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But back to our regularly scheduled programming. Does anyone else remember the slogan, probably from the early 70s: Drive a Datsun – Then decide.&lt;/em&gt;...

How about &quot;It&#039;s a long way to empty, in a Datsun&quot;.  The yellow B210...wasn&#039;t that the &quot;honey bee&quot; version?  Really scraping the grey matter now...we&#039;re talking fourth grade...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>But back to our regularly scheduled programming. Does anyone else remember the slogan, probably from the early 70s: Drive a Datsun – Then decide.</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>How about &#8220;It&#8217;s a long way to empty, in a Datsun&#8221;.  The yellow B210&#8230;wasn&#8217;t that the &#8220;honey bee&#8221; version?  Really scraping the grey matter now&#8230;we&#8217;re talking fourth grade&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VanillaDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>VanillaDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1980, foreign cars were still making headway into the US market. The Sunny was a transitional vehicle that demonstrated an ability to provide US buyers with a reliable rear drive small car for less money. The wood trim makes sense too, in that Japan was discovering how to mimic US design tastes on Japanese cars. This was deliberate, and in the end, successful. What we are not seeing is how this car, and most Japanese cars of this era, were mirroring and pacing the US market and making US buyers accustomed to accepting their brands for future purchases. American cars of this era looked similar. What Nissan is doing here, is offering their take of a popular American automobile style, with a Japanese twist.

If we take a look at Japanese cars of this era, we see transitioning, not revolution. The reason for this makes common sense. By 1980, the Japanese recognized that many Americans didn&#039;t consider Japanese cars to be reliable - just as they considered American cars of the period to be periodically unreliable. American shoppers of this period were often in dealer garages, and have accepted a certain level of crap in their vehicles. Reliability wasn&#039;t expected.

What the Sunny and the Corolla did was demonstrate that not only were these cars Japanese, but that they were reliable. This was new. To accomplish this, the Sunny and the Corolla were old-school. They used designs that were reliable. So we see rear drive, and bullet-proof mechanicals within these 1980 cars. What they lacked in cutting edge - they more than made up for in reliability and value. This was an important step for Japanese manufacturers in this era.

If you look at Mazda&#039;s history in the US, you see why their Japanese competition went with dated reliable designs. Mazda made a big publicity splash with Wankel engines. Mazda saw outstanding growth and PR with these engines. But just as publically, Mazda tanked when these engines didn&#039;t deliver the frugality and reliability expected. Mazda looked like a goner until the GLC saved them from extinction. There was no way Honda, Toyota or Nissan would allow this to occur to their companies. Consequentially, these companies handled new product with great care.

Laugh at the Sunny, but what you are not seeing is how well these boring tinny little cars caused the US market to reconsider Japanese manufacturers when they didn&#039;t before. These cars were comfortable considerations for buyers of this era. They didn&#039;t frighten away the US customer. They demonstrated value, frugality and reliability in an automobile at a time when US manufacturers were unable to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->In 1980, foreign cars were still making headway into the US market. The Sunny was a transitional vehicle that demonstrated an ability to provide US buyers with a reliable rear drive small car for less money. The wood trim makes sense too, in that Japan was discovering how to mimic US design tastes on Japanese cars. This was deliberate, and in the end, successful. What we are not seeing is how this car, and most Japanese cars of this era, were mirroring and pacing the US market and making US buyers accustomed to accepting their brands for future purchases. American cars of this era looked similar. What Nissan is doing here, is offering their take of a popular American automobile style, with a Japanese twist.</p>
<p>If we take a look at Japanese cars of this era, we see transitioning, not revolution. The reason for this makes common sense. By 1980, the Japanese recognized that many Americans didn&#8217;t consider Japanese cars to be reliable &#8211; just as they considered American cars of the period to be periodically unreliable. American shoppers of this period were often in dealer garages, and have accepted a certain level of crap in their vehicles. Reliability wasn&#8217;t expected.</p>
<p>What the Sunny and the Corolla did was demonstrate that not only were these cars Japanese, but that they were reliable. This was new. To accomplish this, the Sunny and the Corolla were old-school. They used designs that were reliable. So we see rear drive, and bullet-proof mechanicals within these 1980 cars. What they lacked in cutting edge &#8211; they more than made up for in reliability and value. This was an important step for Japanese manufacturers in this era.</p>
<p>If you look at Mazda&#8217;s history in the US, you see why their Japanese competition went with dated reliable designs. Mazda made a big publicity splash with Wankel engines. Mazda saw outstanding growth and PR with these engines. But just as publically, Mazda tanked when these engines didn&#8217;t deliver the frugality and reliability expected. Mazda looked like a goner until the GLC saved them from extinction. There was no way Honda, Toyota or Nissan would allow this to occur to their companies. Consequentially, these companies handled new product with great care.</p>
<p>Laugh at the Sunny, but what you are not seeing is how well these boring tinny little cars caused the US market to reconsider Japanese manufacturers when they didn&#8217;t before. These cars were comfortable considerations for buyers of this era. They didn&#8217;t frighten away the US customer. They demonstrated value, frugality and reliability in an automobile at a time when US manufacturers were unable to do so.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ponchoman49&lt;/em&gt;, yes, I think it took them a while to fully appreciate the caustic effect of road salt.  Around these parts by spring time cars that go unwashed have a layer of &#039;frosting&#039; eagerly devouring any exposed metal surface.  Funny the Koreans didn&#039;t learn from them and did exactly the same thing.  I&#039;ve taken longer to finish a 24 of beer than it took for Hyundai Pony&#039;s to start rusting out.</description>
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		<title>By: ponchoman49</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponchoman49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, I haven&#039;t seen one of those piles in about 20 years or so. Most of them fell apart and rotted away when they were 5-6 years old. Memories! Meanwhile not a day goes by that I don&#039;t see an 80&#039;s Ford, GM, Chrysler, Mercedes or BMW. Guess those makes were better equipped for harsh weather climates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Gosh, I haven&#8217;t seen one of those piles in about 20 years or so. Most of them fell apart and rotted away when they were 5-6 years old. Memories! Meanwhile not a day goes by that I don&#8217;t see an 80&#8217;s Ford, GM, Chrysler, Mercedes or BMW. Guess those makes were better equipped for harsh weather climates.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: DweezilSFV</title>
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		<dc:creator>DweezilSFV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just wow,PN. You captured my feelings about the unloved with such precision. 

Anyone can salivate over beautiful cars [ the ones everyone seems to feature], but it takes a true car lover to appreciate the value of the pedestrian stuff and it&#039;s time and place in the automotive scheme of things.

It made me sad to hear about that poor old Granada
I hope the end wasn&#039;t painful.....

Thanks again.Reminds me of that feature in Hemmings Classic Car: Driveable Dreams. 

To those whose day was ruined by this feature, you&#039;ll live.
If you don&#039;t get it, you&#039;ll never understand it, so why hate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow. Just wow,PN. You captured my feelings about the unloved with such precision. </p>
<p>Anyone can salivate over beautiful cars [ the ones everyone seems to feature], but it takes a true car lover to appreciate the value of the pedestrian stuff and it&#8217;s time and place in the automotive scheme of things.</p>
<p>It made me sad to hear about that poor old Granada<br />
I hope the end wasn&#8217;t painful&#8230;..</p>
<p>Thanks again.Reminds me of that feature in Hemmings Classic Car: Driveable Dreams. </p>
<p>To those whose day was ruined by this feature, you&#8217;ll live.<br />
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		<title>By: gridmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>gridmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned to drive in a piss yellow B210 in central New York in 1984.  My dad bought it used as a second car.  Although only a couple of years old, it was already suffering from salt-induced Mohawk Valley cancer.

It was actually not a bad ride.  With snows, it did just fine.  The struts or shock towers or whatever eventually gave way to the rust and the front of the car collapsed in on itself.</description>
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<p>It was actually not a bad ride.  With snows, it did just fine.  The struts or shock towers or whatever eventually gave way to the rust and the front of the car collapsed in on itself.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ronman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Mother had a one of those in as a Sedan.... my first automotive experience is owed to it, i swiped the keys and was planning for a joyride when i was 7, didnt know that i had to change gears and declutch, just turned the ignition and had my first crash, all be it minor with the wheel turned to the curb... was shook up and got spanked (i think) but within the year i could get the stick out of first and turn the car on...but couldn&#039;t reach the clutch.... 

the war in Lebanon heated up after that and spilled into our front and back yard, a 150mm tore through the poor Datsun...i just wish i had photos to share... so I didn&#039;t get a chance to actually experience the drive. but i hear stories from my dad (who worked abroad) that mom drove it for a good 7 month once with no oil in the engine as the stupid mechanic forgot to tighten the filter well...he put oil back in and the car worked as it&#039;s supposed to, never gave my family a problem with its almost 11 years of service, until the shit was blown out of it...talk about a way to go, i guess casualty of war is a bit more acceptable than the crusher...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My Mother had a one of those in as a Sedan&#8230;. my first automotive experience is owed to it, i swiped the keys and was planning for a joyride when i was 7, didnt know that i had to change gears and declutch, just turned the ignition and had my first crash, all be it minor with the wheel turned to the curb&#8230; was shook up and got spanked (i think) but within the year i could get the stick out of first and turn the car on&#8230;but couldn&#8217;t reach the clutch&#8230;. </p>
<p>the war in Lebanon heated up after that and spilled into our front and back yard, a 150mm tore through the poor Datsun&#8230;i just wish i had photos to share&#8230; so I didn&#8217;t get a chance to actually experience the drive. but i hear stories from my dad (who worked abroad) that mom drove it for a good 7 month once with no oil in the engine as the stupid mechanic forgot to tighten the filter well&#8230;he put oil back in and the car worked as it&#8217;s supposed to, never gave my family a problem with its almost 11 years of service, until the shit was blown out of it&#8230;talk about a way to go, i guess casualty of war is a bit more acceptable than the crusher&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Garak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never understood hating the Sunny. Sure, in the 1970s it was obsolecent, but the fwd models were really good in their day. My friend&#039;s 1985 Sunny Sportswagon was still running in 2002 - seldom serviced, never repaired and never broke down until rust killed it.

Also, I&#039;ll say that the 1985-1990 Euro-spec Sunny was one of the best cars in the world. You still see them every day, 19 years after the end of production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve never understood hating the Sunny. Sure, in the 1970s it was obsolecent, but the fwd models were really good in their day. My friend&#8217;s 1985 Sunny Sportswagon was still running in 2002 &#8211; seldom serviced, never repaired and never broke down until rust killed it.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ll say that the 1985-1990 Euro-spec Sunny was one of the best cars in the world. You still see them every day, 19 years after the end of production.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: DearS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DearS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father had a Sedan when I was little in the late 80s. I think it was the 120 variant. Cool looking little car. No A/C, power windows, or big power, but it worked for us in the Dominican. 

Until it was painted white after a crash, instead of blue with green accessories. The hell with that.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, I hope to meet you some day in my travels.

You have a gift for bringing to life those things that are endearing and enduring.</description>
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		<title>By: tpandw</title>
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		<dc:creator>tpandw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really great stuff.  Paul Niedermeyer has hit a chord with many of us.  I have realized that I&#039;m a bit older than Mr. N., but both of were in Iowa City at the same time--he apparently a teenager, me a grad student.  This piece reminds me that I&#039;ve never owned a car I really didn&#039;t like.  And I&#039;ve owned some pieces of crap--a Vega, a Renault, a Corvair.  But at the time I had them (and they weren&#039;t being difficult) I loved every one of them.  Thinking of them brings back parts of my life I thought I had forgotten, and time edits out the bad parts.  Anyway, thanks, Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is really great stuff.  Paul Niedermeyer has hit a chord with many of us.  I have realized that I&#8217;m a bit older than Mr. N., but both of were in Iowa City at the same time&#8211;he apparently a teenager, me a grad student.  This piece reminds me that I&#8217;ve never owned a car I really didn&#8217;t like.  And I&#8217;ve owned some pieces of crap&#8211;a Vega, a Renault, a Corvair.  But at the time I had them (and they weren&#8217;t being difficult) I loved every one of them.  Thinking of them brings back parts of my life I thought I had forgotten, and time edits out the bad parts.  Anyway, thanks, Paul!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so we didn&#039;t learn much about the Sunny, which was probably a very decent car in its day. But we did get a lyrical snapshot of Eugene. I had to google the Pizza Research Institute. And I&#039;m almost feeling sorry I don&#039;t live near Mt. Rainier Maryland anymore, a community similarly full of classic cars, similarly funky vintage houses, and the Glut food coop (but not quite, because it&#039;s right next to DC).</description>
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		<title>By: italianstallion</title>
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		<dc:creator>italianstallion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;as much mileage as Michelle Duggar’s uterus&quot;
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Priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>&#8220;as much mileage as Michelle Duggar’s uterus&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Russycle : Paul, if you’re hittin’ on old Datsuns how about some love for the F10?&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m there, literally; delayed gratification is good.

gus plus, thanks; and the money is flowing again,in the right direction. 

Sam Bonds get-together: Yes. a Saturday later this year. We can check out the 50 Caddy, just a few blocks away. I&#039;ll put up a post/invite. Maybe some weekend when son Ed is in town. Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Russycle : Paul, if you’re hittin’ on old Datsuns how about some love for the F10?</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m there, literally; delayed gratification is good.</p>
<p>gus plus, thanks; and the money is flowing again,in the right direction. </p>
<p>Sam Bonds get-together: Yes. a Saturday later this year. We can check out the 50 Caddy, just a few blocks away. I&#8217;ll put up a post/invite. Maybe some weekend when son Ed is in town. Stay tuned.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: H Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>H Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in.  I&#039;m at Sam Bond&#039;s quite often, relaxedly enjoying some Brutal Bitter or Oakshire Hazelnut Stout.  Even the random PBR to stay sober.  Fine food, as well.  (Rachel makes a killer tostada, but be warned: I was tricked into eatting a vegetarian sandwich.)

Bottoms up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Count me in.  I&#8217;m at Sam Bond&#8217;s quite often, relaxedly enjoying some Brutal Bitter or Oakshire Hazelnut Stout.  Even the random PBR to stay sober.  Fine food, as well.  (Rachel makes a killer tostada, but be warned: I was tricked into eatting a vegetarian sandwich.)</p>
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		<title>By: gusplus</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-1/#comment-1553883</link>
		<dc:creator>gusplus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Let me pile onto the CC love. Paul, you&#039;ve definitely hit your stride with this series. 

You&#039;ve added much appreciated context, both personal and national, to these little essays.

These are the cars most of us grew up with. Sure, many were heaps of crap, but you&#039;ve found a way to put the appropriate lens on your writing to romantacize each and every one of them. That&#039;s not so bad.

Write them long. Write them short. Let the car decide.

If you&#039;re not making money at this by now, then the Best and Brightest have spoken on your behalf. Again. Still.

And...Curbside Classics would make a badass, smart-ass coffee table book. Just imagine...thick, creamy, glossy pages of crumbling, rusting relics from the eclectic avenues of Eugene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yes. Let me pile onto the CC love. Paul, you&#8217;ve definitely hit your stride with this series. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve added much appreciated context, both personal and national, to these little essays.</p>
<p>These are the cars most of us grew up with. Sure, many were heaps of crap, but you&#8217;ve found a way to put the appropriate lens on your writing to romantacize each and every one of them. That&#8217;s not so bad.</p>
<p>Write them long. Write them short. Let the car decide.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not making money at this by now, then the Best and Brightest have spoken on your behalf. Again. Still.</p>
<p>And&#8230;Curbside Classics would make a badass, smart-ass coffee table book. Just imagine&#8230;thick, creamy, glossy pages of crumbling, rusting relics from the eclectic avenues of Eugene.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ritchie628</title>
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		<dc:creator>ritchie628</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. If you keep it up Paul, I&#039;m gonna be forced to move back down to Eugene. And wifey wouldn&#039;t like that. 

 If there&#039;s gonna be a TTAC fest at Sam Bond&#039;s, I&#039;m there. While my friends were attending the U of O, I spent many a weekend with them attending shows. One of my greatest memories was of Elliot Smith at Sam Bond&#039;s. 

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow. If you keep it up Paul, I&#8217;m gonna be forced to move back down to Eugene. And wifey wouldn&#8217;t like that. </p>
<p> If there&#8217;s gonna be a TTAC fest at Sam Bond&#8217;s, I&#8217;m there. While my friends were attending the U of O, I spent many a weekend with them attending shows. One of my greatest memories was of Elliot Smith at Sam Bond&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Forty2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-1/#comment-1553875</link>
		<dc:creator>Forty2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received a 210 2-door automatic as a loaner once when my &#039;78 Datsun truck was in for some warranty work. I had to turn around and take it back because it couldn&#039;t reach a then-55mph on the freeway. The only slower car on the road then was maybe a MBz 240d automatic. They gave me a manual version that wasn&#039;t much better but at least I could get into highway traffic without causing a SIG-alert (this was So. Calif).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I received a 210 2-door automatic as a loaner once when my &#8216;78 Datsun truck was in for some warranty work. I had to turn around and take it back because it couldn&#8217;t reach a then-55mph on the freeway. The only slower car on the road then was maybe a MBz 240d automatic. They gave me a manual version that wasn&#8217;t much better but at least I could get into highway traffic without causing a SIG-alert (this was So. Calif).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Russycle</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-1/#comment-1553867</link>
		<dc:creator>Russycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, if you&#039;re hittin&#039; on old Datsuns how about some love for the F10?  More personality there than you can shake a stick at.

And what&#039;s with all the hate for the Citation?  My parents bought one, and compared to the Pinto  wagon (complete with faux wood siding!) it replaced it was heaven.  Roomy, and the V6 had decent power (compared to the Pinto remember) and gas mileage.  Ugly as hell?  Well yeah, but name a GM car built between 1975 and 1990 that wasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Paul, if you&#8217;re hittin&#8217; on old Datsuns how about some love for the F10?  More personality there than you can shake a stick at.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with all the hate for the Citation?  My parents bought one, and compared to the Pinto  wagon (complete with faux wood siding!) it replaced it was heaven.  Roomy, and the V6 had decent power (compared to the Pinto remember) and gas mileage.  Ugly as hell?  Well yeah, but name a GM car built between 1975 and 1990 that wasn&#8217;t.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-1/#comment-1553864</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H Man, that sentence was getting too long; but Sam Bond&#039;s will undoubtedly make another appearance. Wouldn&#039;t a CC look great in front of it?

Definitely the place for a Eugene TTAC fest, now that there&#039;s more than three of us. 

gusplus, seen it, but not tasted, yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->H Man, that sentence was getting too long; but Sam Bond&#8217;s will undoubtedly make another appearance. Wouldn&#8217;t a CC look great in front of it?</p>
<p>Definitely the place for a Eugene TTAC fest, now that there&#8217;s more than three of us. </p>
<p>gusplus, seen it, but not tasted, yet.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gusplus</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-1/#comment-1553860</link>
		<dc:creator>gusplus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask and ye shall receive. Paul, have you been to the Hung Far Low in Portland?
Uh, and if you don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about, then you didn&#039;t receive the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ask and ye shall receive. Paul, have you been to the Hung Far Low in Portland?<br />
Uh, and if you don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about, then you didn&#8217;t receive the picture.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Canucknucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canucknucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first car, ie not a truck, was a 1973 Datsun 1200 which I bought, much used, in 1983 as school commuter. At the time I had a 1973 International Scout II for bushwhacking and a 1975 Honda CB550 Supersport for barnstorming. I was going to drive 50 km to school and back and often another 75km in top of that to work. I paid $500 for that Datsun.

It was rough, crude and noisy but in the whole two years I drove it, it never once failed me, this on a car that had many, many miles on it before I got it. In that two years I replaced my alternator and starter on it, both myself and with simple tools. Try that these days! I must have put another 100,000km on in in that two and a half years I had it and I drove it at ridiculous speeds, like 120 km/h on that tiny 1200cc motor.

After said two and a half years it was getting towards the end of its service life. It need a valve grind a the very least but it made it to the scrap yard under its own power. I took the near new 12&quot; tires off of it and installed them on my newly acquired 1985 Chevy Sprint. It owed me nothing.

At the time I disdained my Datsun 1200 but looking back, it was one heck of a little car. It was indestructible. So was my CB550. No matter how hard I flogged each of these poor beasts they kept coming back for more. Now compare the Datsun to a Vega or a Pinto of the era or the CB550 to a shovelhead hog! These were the products that put the Japanese makers on the map; they were far and away better than anything Detroit could produce at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My first car, ie not a truck, was a 1973 Datsun 1200 which I bought, much used, in 1983 as school commuter. At the time I had a 1973 International Scout II for bushwhacking and a 1975 Honda CB550 Supersport for barnstorming. I was going to drive 50 km to school and back and often another 75km in top of that to work. I paid $500 for that Datsun.</p>
<p>It was rough, crude and noisy but in the whole two years I drove it, it never once failed me, this on a car that had many, many miles on it before I got it. In that two years I replaced my alternator and starter on it, both myself and with simple tools. Try that these days! I must have put another 100,000km on in in that two and a half years I had it and I drove it at ridiculous speeds, like 120 km/h on that tiny 1200cc motor.</p>
<p>After said two and a half years it was getting towards the end of its service life. It need a valve grind a the very least but it made it to the scrap yard under its own power. I took the near new 12&#8243; tires off of it and installed them on my newly acquired 1985 Chevy Sprint. It owed me nothing.</p>
<p>At the time I disdained my Datsun 1200 but looking back, it was one heck of a little car. It was indestructible. So was my CB550. No matter how hard I flogged each of these poor beasts they kept coming back for more. Now compare the Datsun to a Vega or a Pinto of the era or the CB550 to a shovelhead hog! These were the products that put the Japanese makers on the map; they were far and away better than anything Detroit could produce at the time.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: H Man</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/curbside-classic-1980-datsun-210-sunny/comment-page-1/#comment-1553848</link>
		<dc:creator>H Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An article about a CC in the Whiteaker and no mention of Sam Bond&#039;s Garage???  Best bar in town, bar none. *cough*  And used to be an auto mechanic shop, to boot.  Even a (near) life-sized cutout of Mr. Bond inside.  But one of the hippy stoner slack-knuckled under-employed workers pierced his damn ears!

Should have a Eugene area TTAC enthusiast drink-athon there at some point.

Great writeup, in any event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->An article about a CC in the Whiteaker and no mention of Sam Bond&#8217;s Garage???  Best bar in town, bar none. *cough*  And used to be an auto mechanic shop, to boot.  Even a (near) life-sized cutout of Mr. Bond inside.  But one of the hippy stoner slack-knuckled under-employed workers pierced his damn ears!</p>
<p>Should have a Eugene area TTAC enthusiast drink-athon there at some point.</p>
<p>Great writeup, in any event.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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