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	<title>Comments on: Curbside Classic: 1971 Small Cars Comparison: Number 5 — VW Super Beetle</title>
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		<title>By: jose carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>jose carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, as this series is. And many memories that go over a quarter of a century. I had a ’61 as my first set of wheels, bought cheaply in 1981 during college. At the time they were still abundant and used to be “the first car” for many of us with a fresh driving license. Great time with it, though minor issues were coming: brakes, electrical, carburetor, you name. But the car had been abused and was holding together by wires. But any problem was easily traced and most of times solved on the spot. A set of pliers, wire, can of gas, tape. And also a blanket for heating. At the time the heating system was a simple heat exchanger with the exhaust gases and a couple of cable operated butterfly valves. When rusty (a certain thing) fumes would go straight into the passenger area. Also very recommendable were a couple of holes on the platform in order to keep water level inside at the lowest possible level. And always short on gasoline. But the sense of freedom of going anywhere was unmatched. A decade later I bought a ’65 1200cc which I still keep. It is restored up to a very good standard and turns heads around. From time to time, while driving, I feel I am back in my twenties. Like a pair of 501’s they are timeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Great article, as this series is. And many memories that go over a quarter of a century. I had a ’61 as my first set of wheels, bought cheaply in 1981 during college. At the time they were still abundant and used to be “the first car” for many of us with a fresh driving license. Great time with it, though minor issues were coming: brakes, electrical, carburetor, you name. But the car had been abused and was holding together by wires. But any problem was easily traced and most of times solved on the spot. A set of pliers, wire, can of gas, tape. And also a blanket for heating. At the time the heating system was a simple heat exchanger with the exhaust gases and a couple of cable operated butterfly valves. When rusty (a certain thing) fumes would go straight into the passenger area. Also very recommendable were a couple of holes on the platform in order to keep water level inside at the lowest possible level. And always short on gasoline. But the sense of freedom of going anywhere was unmatched. A decade later I bought a ’65 1200cc which I still keep. It is restored up to a very good standard and turns heads around. From time to time, while driving, I feel I am back in my twenties. Like a pair of 501’s they are timeless.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dolorean23</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolorean23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the best example of one the most loved cars you could find? One with dandelions and the remains of a meadow coming through the floorboards? To me, it screams everything I always hated about a Beetle; rust, wind noise, and a heater that never quite worked.</description>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted a Thing until after tuning up a friend&#039;s I drove it for a few miles... No thanks... Did not feel like a safe vehicle at all. Perhaps more miles would lead to a more confident feeling... VBG! I think it was the height and the ergonomics. My Beetle feels much more well planted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I wanted a Thing until after tuning up a friend&#8217;s I drove it for a few miles&#8230; No thanks&#8230; Did not feel like a safe vehicle at all. Perhaps more miles would lead to a more confident feeling&#8230; VBG! I think it was the height and the ergonomics. My Beetle feels much more well planted.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: paris-dakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>paris-dakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have fixed them in all sorts of odd places when I tried to get the very last miles out of worn parts. &lt;/em&gt;

In Mexico, you literally see Beetles being fixed EVERYWHERE.

Myself, I&#039;d love a Thing.  Or even better, a Schwimmwagen, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I have fixed them in all sorts of odd places when I tried to get the very last miles out of worn parts. </em></p>
<p>In Mexico, you literally see Beetles being fixed EVERYWHERE.</p>
<p>Myself, I&#8217;d love a Thing.  Or even better, a Schwimmwagen, LOL.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: hansbos</title>
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		<dc:creator>hansbos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Twotone

The Fiat 128 is FWD.</description>
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		<title>By: IGB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of very few inexpensive cars that transcends all class boundaries. It was as comfortable in a driveway in Greenwich, CT as it was in the Bronx.

I owned several serially in the late 80&#039;s along with a Karmann Ghia. With some minor modifications, they were great fun to drive.</description>
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<p>I owned several serially in the late 80&#8217;s along with a Karmann Ghia. With some minor modifications, they were great fun to drive.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nikita</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first car was a 1967 Euro-model 1500 Deluxe sunroof sedan, gray-market imported by a soldier. It had front disc brakes, but oddly was behind the US models in one important area. It was six volt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My first car was a 1967 Euro-model 1500 Deluxe sunroof sedan, gray-market imported by a soldier. It had front disc brakes, but oddly was behind the US models in one important area. It was six volt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Andy D: I never found the drum brakes to be an issue. The car couldnt go fast enough for fade to be a problem, and the swept area off the shoes was plenty fine considering a bug only weighed about 2200 pounds. &lt;/i&gt;

The brakes generally don&#039;t get hot but if you drive hard and do repeated hard stops they will overheat and fade away. I had this problem in Naples, Italy with my 1972 Super. That car was the same as a &#039;73 in the USA. Curved windshield, first year. However it only had a 1200cc 40HP engine and the lower gears. Didn&#039;t have the big bumpers either. 

Anyhow in Naples we would run ~100 kph and then have to stand on the brakes because around the next blind tunnel curve traffic would be stopped. With 2-3 people inside the Beetle the brakes would overheat after 3-4 hard stops.

Under the &#039;65 Beetle I brought back I put the &#039;69 IRS chassis and four wheel disc brakes for this reason. Also because on three different swing-axle vehicles I drove there that tried to tuck under hard maneuvering. I wanted the old looks but the newer suspension. 

&lt;i&gt; twotone: In the 1970’s I owned Fiat 128s, Datsun 210s and Opel Kadetts BECAUSE they were RWD.  &lt;/i&gt;

Weren&#039;t ALL of the Fiat 128 cars FWD? I thought it was the Fiat 131 cars that were RWD. Just asking...

&lt;i&gt; moedaman: I owned a ‘66 Beetle, and ‘75 and ‘81 microbuses. And while they were all fun, the lack of a good heating system just killed them. Of course I bought all of them after they were all 8+ years old. &lt;/i&gt;

The heat REALLY does work. Well. Until the weather gets below 25 degrees or so. However for all it&#039;s simplicity it is easy for the system to fail to function. All it takes is a loose ventilation hose or a rusty heater channel (rocker panel) or broken cable or missing thermostat. I have a friend with a &#039;78 VW camper like my Corvair powered Westfalia. It also made good heat down to below freezing when she first bought the van but once the van was in TN for a winter or two a double walled exhaust pipe had the outer layer rust off and the heat diminished considerably. Went from hot heat to warm heat.

&lt;i&gt; RogerB34: ‘70 was the last good year of VW Bugs.The Bug shown is rather pathetic and abused version of the late 60’s. &lt;/i&gt;

No, that is definitely a flat windshield Super Beetle with MacPherson struts. That makes it a &#039;70-&#039;72 in the USA. Might be a &#039;69 overseas somewhere. The US models were generally one year behind on styling and we usually didn&#039;t get any of the go fast goodies like disc brakes or dual carbs. Still getting short changed today with the Euro vs US versions I think by many car makers.

I have owned about 5 Beetles over the years - standard and Super. My current (and likely last) Beetle is a &#039;65 I bought in Italy while stationed there. It is a &#039;65 Beetle originally sold in the western part of my state! I three real gripes about the Beetles. They were noisy inside. Being addressed during my resto. They were slow on the hills. Don&#039;t want to drag race or cruise at 100 mph. Just don&#039;t want to climb hills in 3rd gear. To address this I have installed and run for several thousand miles a Type IV 2.0L engine. A solid 25 mpg no matter what I haul or tow behind me. It definitely doubles the original power. 

This engine was found in the Porsche 914 tuned for about 95 HP with different cam, heads and exhaust. In the bus it came with different lower compression heads, small valves and really mild cam. That version made 67 HP but alot more torque. I&#039;m aiming at about 80-90HP. 

If I can match the performance of my 90HP mid-80s VW GTI &#039;vert I would be happy. Also going to build up a Gene Berg 5-speed for the Beetle as well.

Lastly was the brakes. Didn&#039;t like them fading when hot or working poorly when they were wet. Also addressed by upgrading to disc brakes all the way around with a dual master cylinder. Car also got the &#039;69 chassis with better suspension and will get swaybars to boot and has been lowered in the front until it sits flat with the rear. Dropped spindles. The goal is to look stock but function much, much better. 

All of my Beetles were reliable as anything I ever owned but they did need more adjustments and maintenance (frequent oil changes, adjust the brakes and valves among others). I love working on them. They are &quot;alive&quot; and respond to an experienced mechanic well. I have fixed them in all sorts of odd places when I tried to get the very last miles out of worn parts. If I addressed wear problems when I first noticed the problem with new QUALITY parts (i.e. not just any new part from a catalog selling low quality junk - retailers you know who you are!) then the car was like new again and reliable. 

I still really like the look of a factory stock Beetle with good chrome and paint if none of the pieces are missing or damaged. A beat up Beetle can get really ugly fast to me. Must be something about the awkward shape. 

The cars (any brand) from this era are very desirable to me b/c they can be fixed easily and cheaply and still deliver good service and reasonable comfort with minor updates (a/c, noise control, suspension updates). The real challenge is finding parts for some brands and keeping the steel termites away. 

I&#039;d happily drive cars like this if I could buy one new with a/c and with rust proofing and some minor safety upgrades. 

Have several ideas that I am pondering that might lead me to buy another project Beetle after this one is complete. Perhaps a Hebmueller replica. Perhaps a full length ragtop sunroof (I added a shorty &#039;57 sunroof to mine). Perhaps some sort of hatchback Beetle with a suitcase VW motor. Stock from the outside, big hatchback ala new Beetle. Or perhaps stretching a Beetle about 6 inches in the wheelbase and slanting the windshield back and with a longer slope on the rear end and the front hood. Put the added length into the rear leg room and the front trunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i> Andy D: I never found the drum brakes to be an issue. The car couldnt go fast enough for fade to be a problem, and the swept area off the shoes was plenty fine considering a bug only weighed about 2200 pounds. </i></p>
<p>The brakes generally don&#8217;t get hot but if you drive hard and do repeated hard stops they will overheat and fade away. I had this problem in Naples, Italy with my 1972 Super. That car was the same as a &#8216;73 in the USA. Curved windshield, first year. However it only had a 1200cc 40HP engine and the lower gears. Didn&#8217;t have the big bumpers either. </p>
<p>Anyhow in Naples we would run ~100 kph and then have to stand on the brakes because around the next blind tunnel curve traffic would be stopped. With 2-3 people inside the Beetle the brakes would overheat after 3-4 hard stops.</p>
<p>Under the &#8216;65 Beetle I brought back I put the &#8216;69 IRS chassis and four wheel disc brakes for this reason. Also because on three different swing-axle vehicles I drove there that tried to tuck under hard maneuvering. I wanted the old looks but the newer suspension. </p>
<p><i> twotone: In the 1970’s I owned Fiat 128s, Datsun 210s and Opel Kadetts BECAUSE they were RWD.  </i></p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t ALL of the Fiat 128 cars FWD? I thought it was the Fiat 131 cars that were RWD. Just asking&#8230;</p>
<p><i> moedaman: I owned a ‘66 Beetle, and ‘75 and ‘81 microbuses. And while they were all fun, the lack of a good heating system just killed them. Of course I bought all of them after they were all 8+ years old. </i></p>
<p>The heat REALLY does work. Well. Until the weather gets below 25 degrees or so. However for all it&#8217;s simplicity it is easy for the system to fail to function. All it takes is a loose ventilation hose or a rusty heater channel (rocker panel) or broken cable or missing thermostat. I have a friend with a &#8216;78 VW camper like my Corvair powered Westfalia. It also made good heat down to below freezing when she first bought the van but once the van was in TN for a winter or two a double walled exhaust pipe had the outer layer rust off and the heat diminished considerably. Went from hot heat to warm heat.</p>
<p><i> RogerB34: ‘70 was the last good year of VW Bugs.The Bug shown is rather pathetic and abused version of the late 60’s. </i></p>
<p>No, that is definitely a flat windshield Super Beetle with MacPherson struts. That makes it a &#8216;70-&#8217;72 in the USA. Might be a &#8216;69 overseas somewhere. The US models were generally one year behind on styling and we usually didn&#8217;t get any of the go fast goodies like disc brakes or dual carbs. Still getting short changed today with the Euro vs US versions I think by many car makers.</p>
<p>I have owned about 5 Beetles over the years &#8211; standard and Super. My current (and likely last) Beetle is a &#8216;65 I bought in Italy while stationed there. It is a &#8216;65 Beetle originally sold in the western part of my state! I three real gripes about the Beetles. They were noisy inside. Being addressed during my resto. They were slow on the hills. Don&#8217;t want to drag race or cruise at 100 mph. Just don&#8217;t want to climb hills in 3rd gear. To address this I have installed and run for several thousand miles a Type IV 2.0L engine. A solid 25 mpg no matter what I haul or tow behind me. It definitely doubles the original power. </p>
<p>This engine was found in the Porsche 914 tuned for about 95 HP with different cam, heads and exhaust. In the bus it came with different lower compression heads, small valves and really mild cam. That version made 67 HP but alot more torque. I&#8217;m aiming at about 80-90HP. </p>
<p>If I can match the performance of my 90HP mid-80s VW GTI &#8216;vert I would be happy. Also going to build up a Gene Berg 5-speed for the Beetle as well.</p>
<p>Lastly was the brakes. Didn&#8217;t like them fading when hot or working poorly when they were wet. Also addressed by upgrading to disc brakes all the way around with a dual master cylinder. Car also got the &#8216;69 chassis with better suspension and will get swaybars to boot and has been lowered in the front until it sits flat with the rear. Dropped spindles. The goal is to look stock but function much, much better. </p>
<p>All of my Beetles were reliable as anything I ever owned but they did need more adjustments and maintenance (frequent oil changes, adjust the brakes and valves among others). I love working on them. They are &#8220;alive&#8221; and respond to an experienced mechanic well. I have fixed them in all sorts of odd places when I tried to get the very last miles out of worn parts. If I addressed wear problems when I first noticed the problem with new QUALITY parts (i.e. not just any new part from a catalog selling low quality junk &#8211; retailers you know who you are!) then the car was like new again and reliable. </p>
<p>I still really like the look of a factory stock Beetle with good chrome and paint if none of the pieces are missing or damaged. A beat up Beetle can get really ugly fast to me. Must be something about the awkward shape. </p>
<p>The cars (any brand) from this era are very desirable to me b/c they can be fixed easily and cheaply and still deliver good service and reasonable comfort with minor updates (a/c, noise control, suspension updates). The real challenge is finding parts for some brands and keeping the steel termites away. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d happily drive cars like this if I could buy one new with a/c and with rust proofing and some minor safety upgrades. </p>
<p>Have several ideas that I am pondering that might lead me to buy another project Beetle after this one is complete. Perhaps a Hebmueller replica. Perhaps a full length ragtop sunroof (I added a shorty &#8216;57 sunroof to mine). Perhaps some sort of hatchback Beetle with a suitcase VW motor. Stock from the outside, big hatchback ala new Beetle. Or perhaps stretching a Beetle about 6 inches in the wheelbase and slanting the windshield back and with a longer slope on the rear end and the front hood. Put the added length into the rear leg room and the front trunk.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: blautens</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two memories of bugs -

My friend&#039;s younger brother, working underneath his Beetle, had the rear end slip off jackstands and land on top of him. He screamed and whined, but just ended up being bruised and sore (and embarrassed). 

Also, as a young teenager, as I perused through the JC Whitney catalogs, it appeared as though you could buy all the parts to assemble an entirely new Beetle. Doors, body panels, rebuilt motors, you name it.</description>
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<p>My friend&#8217;s younger brother, working underneath his Beetle, had the rear end slip off jackstands and land on top of him. He screamed and whined, but just ended up being bruised and sore (and embarrassed). </p>
<p>Also, as a young teenager, as I perused through the JC Whitney catalogs, it appeared as though you could buy all the parts to assemble an entirely new Beetle. Doors, body panels, rebuilt motors, you name it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Europeans even got the front disc treatmen.&lt;/i&gt;
Needs the &#039;t&#039;

Europeans even got the front disc treatmen&lt;b&gt;t.
 
Nice piece.  I think everyone&#039;s got some kind of memory of driving/owning/being in a VW beetle, super or not. 

These comparos of older economy cars are super cool.  I&#039;d love to see more of these for other generations of cars &#039;70&#039;s muscle cars, or something.  But, maybe you&#039;d have to stick to older cars found in the Eugene area ;-)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Europeans even got the front disc treatmen.</i><br />
Needs the &#8216;t&#8217;</p>
<p>Europeans even got the front disc treatmen<b>t.</p>
<p>Nice piece.  I think everyone&#8217;s got some kind of memory of driving/owning/being in a VW beetle, super or not. </p>
<p>These comparos of older economy cars are super cool.  I&#8217;d love to see more of these for other generations of cars &#8217;70&#8217;s muscle cars, or something.  But, maybe you&#8217;d have to stick to older cars found in the Eugene area ;-)</b><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MadHungarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadHungarian</dc:creator>
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		<description>grog and geeber:

I owned both a &#039;70 Maverick and a &#039;71 Super Beetle (at different times).  Even though Ford marketed the Mav as a VW alternative, really they are such different cars it is hard to rank them one against the other.  The Ford had a real trunk (a pretty decent sized one actually), a real heater, a real automatic trans and could seat 5 in a pinch.  Mine also had a carburetor that resolutely refused to idle no matter what, and I eventually burned out said auto trans due to having to rev the engine in neutral at stop lights to keep from stalling, then dropping it suddenly into gear on green.  My Beetle had the semi-auto setup which, contrary to reputation is very reliable once it is set up properly.  Various other things broke on the Bug but of the two, it is the one I would like to have back.  There is something refreshingly honest, straightforward and, dammit, MECHANICAL about a Bug.</description>
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<p>I owned both a &#8216;70 Maverick and a &#8216;71 Super Beetle (at different times).  Even though Ford marketed the Mav as a VW alternative, really they are such different cars it is hard to rank them one against the other.  The Ford had a real trunk (a pretty decent sized one actually), a real heater, a real automatic trans and could seat 5 in a pinch.  Mine also had a carburetor that resolutely refused to idle no matter what, and I eventually burned out said auto trans due to having to rev the engine in neutral at stop lights to keep from stalling, then dropping it suddenly into gear on green.  My Beetle had the semi-auto setup which, contrary to reputation is very reliable once it is set up properly.  Various other things broke on the Bug but of the two, it is the one I would like to have back.  There is something refreshingly honest, straightforward and, dammit, MECHANICAL about a Bug.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nikita</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Zero to sixty now came in sixteen seconds, almost unheard of for a Beetle. That still made it the slowest in this comparison, but only just slightly so, against most of the competition.&quot;

I remember the Toyota Corona ad claiming the same acceleration number. It had a 1900cc engine as I recall. Where are all those Corona&#039;s now? Never see one, nor Opels or Fiats. Working on &quot;furrin&quot; cars to pay my college expenses, there are good reasons why old VW&#039;s are still around and virtually no Austin-MG, Fiat, Opel, Renault or Simca sedans still on the road. An electric-shifted semi-automatic Simca is still the strangest one I ever repaired.

Just like you, print car mags back then heaped praise on cars that may have performed better than VW&#039;s when new, but didnt last. C&amp;D at least panned the Kadette, and paid dearly for it in lost GM ad revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Zero to sixty now came in sixteen seconds, almost unheard of for a Beetle. That still made it the slowest in this comparison, but only just slightly so, against most of the competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>I remember the Toyota Corona ad claiming the same acceleration number. It had a 1900cc engine as I recall. Where are all those Corona&#8217;s now? Never see one, nor Opels or Fiats. Working on &#8220;furrin&#8221; cars to pay my college expenses, there are good reasons why old VW&#8217;s are still around and virtually no Austin-MG, Fiat, Opel, Renault or Simca sedans still on the road. An electric-shifted semi-automatic Simca is still the strangest one I ever repaired.</p>
<p>Just like you, print car mags back then heaped praise on cars that may have performed better than VW&#8217;s when new, but didnt last. C&amp;D at least panned the Kadette, and paid dearly for it in lost GM ad revenue.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: blowfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>blowfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was 1980 I bought a 69 bug from a friend. 
Another friend cut a piece of plywood and bolted it under the front bumper. That was the best piece of front spoiler we had done to the car. Gone were the front end light when going on any highway speed.
I drove her across Canada from van to Toronto. 
Never had any bad vacuuming experience before.
I ran like a top, until 2 yrs later I bought a Civic.
VeeDub were definitely something else. The poor man&#039;s porsche.
Wish they still make them.
probably not going to be long, as lots of 356 replicas been made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->it was 1980 I bought a 69 bug from a friend.<br />
Another friend cut a piece of plywood and bolted it under the front bumper. That was the best piece of front spoiler we had done to the car. Gone were the front end light when going on any highway speed.<br />
I drove her across Canada from van to Toronto.<br />
Never had any bad vacuuming experience before.<br />
I ran like a top, until 2 yrs later I bought a Civic.<br />
VeeDub were definitely something else. The poor man&#8217;s porsche.<br />
Wish they still make them.<br />
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		<title>By: venator</title>
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		<dc:creator>venator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, excellent choice of words, the 1200 felt more organic. AS for the lack of power, it was a blessing in disguise, as the suspect handling would have been more exposed at higher speeds. Keeping in mind that the original suspension was the handiwork of Ferdinand Porsche, who never in his 45-year-long career  designed a car with exemplary roadholding, power in the 34 to 40 HP range is just about right for that car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Paul, excellent choice of words, the 1200 felt more organic. AS for the lack of power, it was a blessing in disguise, as the suspect handling would have been more exposed at higher speeds. Keeping in mind that the original suspension was the handiwork of Ferdinand Porsche, who never in his 45-year-long career  designed a car with exemplary roadholding, power in the 34 to 40 HP range is just about right for that car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>venator,

Thanks for the correction. I agree with you; I liked my 1200 better too, even if it was slower. It felt more organic.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the correction. I agree with you; I liked my 1200 better too, even if it was slower. It felt more organic.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: venator</title>
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		<dc:creator>venator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul Niedermayer, The body of the Kdf-Wagen (later VW) was designed by Erwin Komenda, and not Edwin Kommenda!
As for the Super-Beetle, being familiar with VWs, the first car I bought upon moving to North America from Europe was a 1974 Super-Beetle. What a POS it was compared to the VW 1200. I could not wait to get rid of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@Paul Niedermayer, The body of the Kdf-Wagen (later VW) was designed by Erwin Komenda, and not Edwin Kommenda!<br />
As for the Super-Beetle, being familiar with VWs, the first car I bought upon moving to North America from Europe was a 1974 Super-Beetle. What a POS it was compared to the VW 1200. I could not wait to get rid of it!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why is there grass in the car?&lt;/em&gt;

There isn&#039;t; it&#039;s a reflection of the grass outside.</description>
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		<title>By: joeveto3</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeveto3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why is there grass in the car?&lt;/i&gt;

My first guess is that picture is the author&#039;s best shot an honest representation of what so many Bug interiors look like -- grass growing right through the floorboards.  The Bug I bought off of eBay sure suffered from this (despite anything the seller claimed).

Those floors (along with the battery trays and heater channels) did a disappearing act at the first sight of salt covered roads.  Just add salt, and there went the floors and the heat...

Otherwise, I found the bug to be one of the most fun cars I have ever owned.  I couldn&#039;t help but fall in love with the simplicity of it all.  The Bug is about essentials, and nothing else.  Too cool.</description>
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<p>My first guess is that picture is the author&#8217;s best shot an honest representation of what so many Bug interiors look like &#8212; grass growing right through the floorboards.  The Bug I bought off of eBay sure suffered from this (despite anything the seller claimed).</p>
<p>Those floors (along with the battery trays and heater channels) did a disappearing act at the first sight of salt covered roads.  Just add salt, and there went the floors and the heat&#8230;</p>
<p>Otherwise, I found the bug to be one of the most fun cars I have ever owned.  I couldn&#8217;t help but fall in love with the simplicity of it all.  The Bug is about essentials, and nothing else.  Too cool.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rcolayco</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcolayco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My very first car was a &#039;58 Beetle.  Imagine my excitement when at our Golden Jubilee (yes, 50 years after graduation) high school reunion last year, I discovered that my classmate had two of the very last Beetles that had rolled off the production lines in Brazil.  He lent one of them to me for a week.

It wasn&#039;t like the old ones.  It had factory air, for one thing.  But I must admit driving the thing was like meeting that girl you were crazy about in high school who married someone else.  You wonder what you were thinking then.

Yes, it was cramped, etc. etc.  What put me off most of all was the way it drove.  No power, awful handling, not bad ride.  But what WAS I thinking?  I knew all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My very first car was a &#8216;58 Beetle.  Imagine my excitement when at our Golden Jubilee (yes, 50 years after graduation) high school reunion last year, I discovered that my classmate had two of the very last Beetles that had rolled off the production lines in Brazil.  He lent one of them to me for a week.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t like the old ones.  It had factory air, for one thing.  But I must admit driving the thing was like meeting that girl you were crazy about in high school who married someone else.  You wonder what you were thinking then.</p>
<p>Yes, it was cramped, etc. etc.  What put me off most of all was the way it drove.  No power, awful handling, not bad ride.  But what WAS I thinking?  I knew all that.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Aloysius Vampa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aloysius Vampa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is there grass in the car?</description>
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		<title>By: obbop</title>
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		<dc:creator>obbop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Beetles&#039; engine was truly a Fab Four.

Groan</description>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to guess that the demographics of Eugene and the popularity of the Beetle in &#039;71 relative to the Japanese and Euro competition account for the fact taht the Beetles are much easier to find there than Corollas, Datsuns, Fiats, or Simcas. (I haven&#039;t seen a Simca anywhere in probably decades.) Of course, VWs were always easy to repair, but were they really better than Corollas? My &#039;77 Corolla was a little tank, and if it hadn&#039;t been for car cancer, and the fact that Bryant&#039;s brother ran it into a tree after I sold it to Bryant in &#039;94, that thing--whose first owner was David Albright, who later became one of the Iraq weapons inspectors--might still be going. 

Regarding the style, what bothers me more than the shnoz is the vents behind the rear windows, which I think were introduced in &#039;68. They did a number on the artistic integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m going to guess that the demographics of Eugene and the popularity of the Beetle in &#8216;71 relative to the Japanese and Euro competition account for the fact taht the Beetles are much easier to find there than Corollas, Datsuns, Fiats, or Simcas. (I haven&#8217;t seen a Simca anywhere in probably decades.) Of course, VWs were always easy to repair, but were they really better than Corollas? My &#8216;77 Corolla was a little tank, and if it hadn&#8217;t been for car cancer, and the fact that Bryant&#8217;s brother ran it into a tree after I sold it to Bryant in &#8216;94, that thing&#8211;whose first owner was David Albright, who later became one of the Iraq weapons inspectors&#8211;might still be going. </p>
<p>Regarding the style, what bothers me more than the shnoz is the vents behind the rear windows, which I think were introduced in &#8216;68. They did a number on the artistic integrity.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: johnny ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were great to drive on secondary roads. They had a nice feel to them when they were in good shape. VAG products still do.</description>
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		<title>By: RogerB34</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogerB34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;70 was the last good year of VW Bugs.
Smog hampered crap followed in the USA.
The Bug shown is rather pathetic and abused version of the late 60&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8216;70 was the last good year of VW Bugs.<br />
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		<title>By: tonycd</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonycd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iacocca did market the Maverick straight at the Beetle. I distinctly remember a Maverick sales brochure that used the line &quot;That&#039;s all, Volks!&quot;

If that wasn&#039;t painful enough, they gave the colors clever &quot;youth market&quot; names. For one agonizing example, the bright green metallic was dubbed &quot;Anti-Establish Mint.&quot; I am not making this up.</description>
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<p>If that wasn&#8217;t painful enough, they gave the colors clever &#8220;youth market&#8221; names. For one agonizing example, the bright green metallic was dubbed &#8220;Anti-Establish Mint.&#8221; I am not making this up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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