Unless they’ve changed the chassis from 05 to the new ones (which is entirely possible since they seem to update the G/Z line every 2 years), it’s only the center of gravity that’s behind the front axle. On my ‘05 350Z, the engine clearly is over the front axle (offset towards the rear by a few inches).

I don’t particularly like the A4/C-class but still, that G35 looks way too 90s Japanmobile to me, only with a coule of big headlights.

If memmory serves me right the M is much better, but here in Europe I never see one (maybe I will since the brand has been here for a couple moths now, although as of yet I saw 1 or 2 FXs and that’s it), so I’ll check out some pictures now.

Its trying because it still hasn’t beaten it, and no matter how many things it has that look better than the BMW on paper, it doesn’t have that extra factor that really makes it come alive.

The Infiniti is like a precision engineered soldier – no emotions, no feelings, just there to serve its purpose. The BMW, on the other hand, is much like a puppy – playful and fun, and though it may disobey at times, its always lovable.

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You’re way too level-headed in your analysis. What do you think you’re doing?

Your comment confirms very much what I thought when I first drove a BMW, e34 540i. I thought it drove well but nothing out-of-this-world, excellent in every respect but nothing way, way better than other similar cars. Then I bought it, drove it for 6 years and have become a bimmer man. I would like to find a car that feels as good as a bimmer, from the seats, knobs, stereo, to the actual driving experience but I haven’t found such a car yet. I do believe that bimmers even though they are excellent are overpriced at least for me hence I have been buying them used and will until I find a cheaper equivalent.

What many people don’t seem to understand when reading a review like this is that with cars like these 2 the difference is mostly in your head. And it’s not just the quality of the difference but quantity as well. It’s all up to you how much value you assign to the differences. If you look at the specs and they are overwhelmingly in favor of G then G is your choice. If you drive both cars and try to be as neutral as possible most people would say that the bimmer has an edge. How big an edge it is is up to you. You may think the actual driving edge is just not worth the clear spec superiority of the G. And that’s fine. There is nothing wrong with that. But why get upset at people who pick that slight driving superiority of the bimmer over the G?

So I floored it and bombed my way through a desolate industrial neighborhood in Montreal, pushing the car to its limits for about 10 minutes.

I can’t say I thought it was anything special. Call me crazy, but I have more fun tossing my girlfriend’s Mazda3 GT around.

Other than that, I’d take a G37 coupe in all black with a 6-speed. I’ll figure out what to do about the exhaust note later :^)

Then you say this:

…it translates to a special, unified driving experience that can’t be overcome with power and tricks.

The G37 is the perfect expression of a pure RWD sports sedan with no tricks.

To get extra luxury toys on the 3-series, you have to pay through the nose — otherwise, you get vinyl upholstery and a lot of cheap touches. Not that nice upholstery makes something a good car, but a drawback of the 3-series has always been that it’s really pretty Spartan in standard form.

I think they messed up calling the Coupe and the big sedan the same name (Genesis), because now what would they call a 4 door version of the Genisis Coupe?

Driven them both, the new BMWs leave me numb, like a dry hump – there’s little of that teutonic steering feel we’ve grown accustomed to in the E30, E36 and even the E46 bodies. Not to mention about 200-400 extra pounds of bloat.

The G thrashes like some sort of garage band. The motor would fit better in a tractor. I found the interior to be incredibly cheap and the steering feel to be even MORE vague than the BMWs.

How?

I would prefer the sedan G37 to its Bimmer equivalent. I don’t like the current 3 sedan much at all (though the recent update is better, though I at first thought it worse (but not anymore)). But coupe-wise, 328 alllll the way.

No offense whatsoever to the commentator who wrote this, but it’s a perfect example of how spoiled we are, and, more to the point, how numbers and gimmicks are often deemed too important. Good seats with only 3 types of adjustments are better than crappy seats with 8 types of adjustments. And please, please, put cloth back in the seats. Leather is horrible for lateral support.

And I agree with other posters on the exhaust note of FXs and G coupes: horribly annoying. Sound like a bad videogame.

You’re forgetting the hideous factor. Or are they challenging BMW in that category too?

Hideous? Seriously? I thought BMW had patented hideous and were licencing it to Toyota…

Hyundai has had some questionable designs in the recent past (original Tiburon, anyone?). More recently they seemed to get either the front or the back of their cars right, but not both. Now however, the Genesis coupe looks to be their best styling effort to date; the front and the rear looks quite nice and well proportioned to my eye, and the profile reminds me of the G coupe. It is certainly not the most beautiful car, but far from hideous, IMHO.

When these start showing up in Canadian showrooms, I’m planning to take one for a drive. Screw the R-Spec though, I’m going for the V6. It’ll be north of $30k here for sure, but if it goes, stops and turns as well as I think it should…

I have always wanted a BMW but expense related horror stories scared me off. Accordingly, our next car will likely be an Infiniti G or M series.

Yesterday I doubled down into 2nd to take a turn on a whim and the resultant metallic snarl of that glorious straight six made me smile.

The BMW is a fantastic car. If it was my own money I’d buy another. Pity about the brand image and the haters. Oh well.

That being said, if I have the cash, I would no doubt take the 328 over the G37. As many here have noticed, the two simply don’t compare on paper – the G wins hands down. But cars are meant to be driven, not read about on paper. And once you spend some time in both cars, the difference becomes more pronounced, and the difference favors the bimmer. It’s simply a much more coherent package. The power is much more linear, usable, and controllable. Push it around the corners, and you feel like it’s an extension of your arms and legs, rather than a powerful car you’re trying to restrain. The steering is more direct; the shifter feels better. You simply feel more confident and feel like you can extract more out of the car. The G has more power, but not much else.

I’ve driven all the generations of the G, in coupe & sedan forms, and I’ve done the same with the 3 series. The bimmers are more expensive, provide less bang for the bucks, and are probably more expensive to maintain. But every time I take a test drive in both cars and compare the two, I inevitably tell myself that I would take the 3 over the G.

So, for the naysayers and G-lovers, I advise you not to take a test drive in the 3 series. That way, your opinions about the cars would remain intact. Beware!