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	<title>Comments on: Comparo: 2009 Hyundai Elantra vs. 2009 Kia Spectra</title>
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		<title>By: ponchoman49</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/comparo-2009-huyndai-elantra-vs-2009-kia-spectra/comment-page-1/#comment-1208771</link>
		<dc:creator>ponchoman49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not impressed at what they did to the new style Elantra. It just looks wrong to me and my friends eyes. Very dull plain and lumpy with those strange curves on the sides and the never ending removal of all exterior trim and bodyside molding protection.. The Kia looks better IMO but it&#039;s interior isn&#039;t as nice as the Elantras. SO if they could put the interior of the Elantra into the Spectra, I would buy it as a small commuter car.</description>
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		<title>By: cobase</title>
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		<dc:creator>cobase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s the bargain-priced GLS, whereas the SE trim handling is better, and was Consumer Reports #1 compact car, i.e. top of the barrel. Car and Driver similarly rated the SE #4, above the Corolla and Sentra (they also picked $18,500+ cars as #1 and #2) Edmunds rated the Cobalt close to last place, even the old (2005) Elantra was ranked higher, and the Spectra was #3. There&#039;s always comments like &quot;for a few thousand more you can get a Mazda 3 or Civic.&quot; Well, for a few thousand more you could get an &#039;09 Sonata too. It stickers at $16,700 (MSRP-rebate) right now, but no, it won&#039;t out-handle the Mazda 3 either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I guess that&#8217;s the bargain-priced GLS, whereas the SE trim handling is better, and was Consumer Reports #1 compact car, i.e. top of the barrel. Car and Driver similarly rated the SE #4, above the Corolla and Sentra (they also picked $18,500+ cars as #1 and #2) Edmunds rated the Cobalt close to last place, even the old (2005) Elantra was ranked higher, and the Spectra was #3. There&#8217;s always comments like &#8220;for a few thousand more you can get a Mazda 3 or Civic.&#8221; Well, for a few thousand more you could get an &#8216;09 Sonata too. It stickers at $16,700 (MSRP-rebate) right now, but no, it won&#8217;t out-handle the Mazda 3 either.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: boredlawstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>boredlawstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyundai has always made cars that look better on paper than they do in real life. This Elantra, or for that matter the Genesis are prime examples. Having driven the Genesis, I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that most of the hype surrounding this car came from looking at it on paper and not actually driving it. Reviewers, so mesmerized by the impressive engine output or Hyundai&#039;s claims of superiority over BMW and MB wrote glowing reviews without even stepping foot in the car. Had they done just that (like I did), they most assuredly would be less than impressed. 

W/R/T the Elantra, spending just a few bucks more gets you a supremely better and safer car such as a Rabbit, Impreza, Civic, or Mazda3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hyundai has always made cars that look better on paper than they do in real life. This Elantra, or for that matter the Genesis are prime examples. Having driven the Genesis, I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that most of the hype surrounding this car came from looking at it on paper and not actually driving it. Reviewers, so mesmerized by the impressive engine output or Hyundai&#8217;s claims of superiority over BMW and MB wrote glowing reviews without even stepping foot in the car. Had they done just that (like I did), they most assuredly would be less than impressed. </p>
<p>W/R/T the Elantra, spending just a few bucks more gets you a supremely better and safer car such as a Rabbit, Impreza, Civic, or Mazda3.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: don1967</title>
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		<dc:creator>don1967</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent convert to Hyundai, I am impressed but sometimes puzzled by the direction the company is taking.

In terms of design quality and overall product orientation, Hyundai is clearly aiming to be the new Toyota while Toyota becomes the new GM. But while the Scion/Toyota/Lexus brands are organized hierarchically, Hyundai/Kia suffers from brand confusion much like Chevrolet/Pontiac. 

Just when Hyundai seems to be emerging as the more upscale Korean brand, it goes on a cheapest-car-in-North-America campaign while giving the all-new $40,000 Borrego to Kia.  And just when Kia seems to be emerging as the more funky/youthful brand, Hyundai gets the Genesis Coupe.  Meanwhile, the core models from each brand are barely differentiated, often competing against, rather than complementing, each other.   How do you say &quot;perplexing&quot; in Korean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As a recent convert to Hyundai, I am impressed but sometimes puzzled by the direction the company is taking.</p>
<p>In terms of design quality and overall product orientation, Hyundai is clearly aiming to be the new Toyota while Toyota becomes the new GM. But while the Scion/Toyota/Lexus brands are organized hierarchically, Hyundai/Kia suffers from brand confusion much like Chevrolet/Pontiac. </p>
<p>Just when Hyundai seems to be emerging as the more upscale Korean brand, it goes on a cheapest-car-in-North-America campaign while giving the all-new $40,000 Borrego to Kia.  And just when Kia seems to be emerging as the more funky/youthful brand, Hyundai gets the Genesis Coupe.  Meanwhile, the core models from each brand are barely differentiated, often competing against, rather than complementing, each other.   How do you say &#8220;perplexing&#8221; in Korean?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rpn453</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpn453</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review.  I even read parts of it aloud to my girlfriend.</description>
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		<title>By: Liger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/comparo-2009-huyndai-elantra-vs-2009-kia-spectra/comment-page-1/#comment-973082</link>
		<dc:creator>Liger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hyundai&#039;s with cloth seats do smell bad when new.  I think it is the dye they use for the cloth seats.  The Hyundai&#039;s with leather don&#039;t seem to smell as bad.</description>
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		<title>By: Demetri</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/comparo-2009-huyndai-elantra-vs-2009-kia-spectra/comment-page-1/#comment-971462</link>
		<dc:creator>Demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re right on about the smell.  The Elantra I test drove really dig stink.  I&#039;ve heard that all Hyundai/Kias are like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->They&#8217;re right on about the smell.  The Elantra I test drove really dig stink.  I&#8217;ve heard that all Hyundai/Kias are like that.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Liger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/comparo-2009-huyndai-elantra-vs-2009-kia-spectra/comment-page-1/#comment-969242</link>
		<dc:creator>Liger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back when Car and Driver was worth reading, they did a great comparison test of economy cars. The previous generation Kia Spectra was in the comparison test, out of 10 cars, it finished 10th.  

From Car and Driver:

Highs: Sharp-looking alloy wheels, pretty decent front seats, starts every time.

Lows: Nose-blowing sound from the engine, slack-cable feel of the steering, loosey-goosey handling.

The Verdict: Why buy used when you can get brand-new &#039;80s sophistication? 


The Elantra was a good car even back then.  It finished 2nd.

Highs: Gutsy performance; driver-friendly cockpit; satisfying responses from the machinery; and low, low price.

Lows: Stinky new-car smell, high-speed handling a little queasy.

The Verdict: If you can find a better portfolio of feels and features at this price, buy it.


This comparison test sold me alot of Elantras at the Hyundai dealership.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/2002_kia_spectra_vs_dodge_neon_ford_focus_honda_civic_and_four_more_economy_cars_comparison_test+page-10.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Back when Car and Driver was worth reading, they did a great comparison test of economy cars. The previous generation Kia Spectra was in the comparison test, out of 10 cars, it finished 10th.  </p>
<p>From Car and Driver:</p>
<p>Highs: Sharp-looking alloy wheels, pretty decent front seats, starts every time.</p>
<p>Lows: Nose-blowing sound from the engine, slack-cable feel of the steering, loosey-goosey handling.</p>
<p>The Verdict: Why buy used when you can get brand-new &#8217;80s sophistication? </p>
<p>The Elantra was a good car even back then.  It finished 2nd.</p>
<p>Highs: Gutsy performance; driver-friendly cockpit; satisfying responses from the machinery; and low, low price.</p>
<p>Lows: Stinky new-car smell, high-speed handling a little queasy.</p>
<p>The Verdict: If you can find a better portfolio of feels and features at this price, buy it.</p>
<p>This comparison test sold me alot of Elantras at the Hyundai dealership.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/2002_kia_spectra_vs_dodge_neon_ford_focus_honda_civic_and_four_more_economy_cars_comparison_test+page-10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/2002_kia_spectra_vs_dodge_neon_ford_focus_honda_civic_and_four_more_economy_cars_comparison_test+page-10.html</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SupaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SupaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review!

Hit the nail on the head when it comes to the Elantra. I have an &#039;02 model and the engine/auto tranny combo is severely mismatched. I was a bit pissed when Hyundai redesigned the car that the makeover wasn&#039;t more substantial. Same platform, same engines, same transmissions. Same crappy driving dynamics. I can&#039;t wait to get the Mazdaspeed3 and inject some driving excitement in my life.</description>
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<p>Hit the nail on the head when it comes to the Elantra. I have an &#8216;02 model and the engine/auto tranny combo is severely mismatched. I was a bit pissed when Hyundai redesigned the car that the makeover wasn&#8217;t more substantial. Same platform, same engines, same transmissions. Same crappy driving dynamics. I can&#8217;t wait to get the Mazdaspeed3 and inject some driving excitement in my life.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerseydevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerseydevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fine review, thanks.

about the cars, i prefer to buy gently used cars for that money.  You can get some pretty cool wheels for 14 or 15 large, a few years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->fine review, thanks.</p>
<p>about the cars, i prefer to buy gently used cars for that money.  You can get some pretty cool wheels for 14 or 15 large, a few years old.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BEAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BEAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me in order to save gas on Manual.

I avoid lower gears and drive nuetral on heavy traffic without tapping the brakes.
Drive your car like a 10 wheeler no tailgating and avoid excessive braking.

Bu the most important thing these cars will survive because of the price and fuel economy.

General Motors Crushed their future when they ended the life of the Electric Vehicle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->For me in order to save gas on Manual.</p>
<p>I avoid lower gears and drive nuetral on heavy traffic without tapping the brakes.<br />
Drive your car like a 10 wheeler no tailgating and avoid excessive braking.</p>
<p>Bu the most important thing these cars will survive because of the price and fuel economy.</p>
<p>General Motors Crushed their future when they ended the life of the Electric Vehicle<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: shaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the owner of a 2008 Hyundai Elantra SE 5 spd, I can only agree with a few of the shortcomings (less than class-leading MPG, numb steering) in the comparo.

Now, if you drove the GLS with the 195-65-15 tires, then there was your handling problem right there...

To somehow say that a bland-ass Cobalt is better than an Elantra shows some sort of bias that defies logic.

I looked at all of the numbers, and the Elantra is a &quot;Four-Star&quot; car in its segment, while a Cobalt is a solid &quot;Three&quot; (except for the SS, but that&#039;s over 20k).

The interior of the Elantra is just fine, BTW, whereas the Cobalt just seems stamped out of the same dull plastic. Hyundai actually put rubber moldings around the front windshield, the Cobalt&#039;s looks like it was just dropped in place.

And despite some initial body roll, the Elantra SE (with 205-55-16) marks a 55.5 MPH run through CR&#039;s &quot;Avoidance Maneuver&quot;, while a Cobalt LT (with the same size tires) manages 51 MPH (The SS does it @ 56.5 MPH, 1 MPH better than the Elantra)

But the Elantra is NOT a supercar, admittedly, it would be quite boring with an automatic; but to say that it&#039;s &quot;bottom of the barrel&quot; and less than equivalent to a Cobalt is misleading in the face of facts.

Either the Elantra, the Spectra or the Cobalt would be a solid choice for basic transportation in this segment, but the Korean twins are a bit less bland than the workaday Cobalt -- it really depends on who&#039;s rebate is bigger...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As the owner of a 2008 Hyundai Elantra SE 5 spd, I can only agree with a few of the shortcomings (less than class-leading MPG, numb steering) in the comparo.</p>
<p>Now, if you drove the GLS with the 195-65-15 tires, then there was your handling problem right there&#8230;</p>
<p>To somehow say that a bland-ass Cobalt is better than an Elantra shows some sort of bias that defies logic.</p>
<p>I looked at all of the numbers, and the Elantra is a &#8220;Four-Star&#8221; car in its segment, while a Cobalt is a solid &#8220;Three&#8221; (except for the SS, but that&#8217;s over 20k).</p>
<p>The interior of the Elantra is just fine, BTW, whereas the Cobalt just seems stamped out of the same dull plastic. Hyundai actually put rubber moldings around the front windshield, the Cobalt&#8217;s looks like it was just dropped in place.</p>
<p>And despite some initial body roll, the Elantra SE (with 205-55-16) marks a 55.5 MPH run through CR&#8217;s &#8220;Avoidance Maneuver&#8221;, while a Cobalt LT (with the same size tires) manages 51 MPH (The SS does it @ 56.5 MPH, 1 MPH better than the Elantra)</p>
<p>But the Elantra is NOT a supercar, admittedly, it would be quite boring with an automatic; but to say that it&#8217;s &#8220;bottom of the barrel&#8221; and less than equivalent to a Cobalt is misleading in the face of facts.</p>
<p>Either the Elantra, the Spectra or the Cobalt would be a solid choice for basic transportation in this segment, but the Korean twins are a bit less bland than the workaday Cobalt &#8212; it really depends on who&#8217;s rebate is bigger&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tonycd</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonycd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William M,

Speaking of the Forenza, as long as that sack o&#039; tinfoil is in said barrel, the Hyundai mehmobiles can&#039;t be lining the bottom.</description>
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<p>Speaking of the Forenza, as long as that sack o&#8217; tinfoil is in said barrel, the Hyundai mehmobiles can&#8217;t be lining the bottom.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the Elantra and Spectra to be meh.  I&#039;m hopeful that the Elantra Touring might be something special.  

It has completely different, but still very bland, sheet metal that distinguishes it from the Elantra Sedan and the Spectra.  As a sort of hatchback/mini station wagon thing, it seems to be more on the station wagon side of things where its only direct competition is the crappy Suzuki Forenza and the over-priced VW Jetta.</description>
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<p>It has completely different, but still very bland, sheet metal that distinguishes it from the Elantra Sedan and the Spectra.  As a sort of hatchback/mini station wagon thing, it seems to be more on the station wagon side of things where its only direct competition is the crappy Suzuki Forenza and the over-priced VW Jetta.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Demetri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think manual and auto EPA #s are directly comparable.  The manual is extremely dependent on how you drive, and there are more techniques that you can use to save fuel with a manual.  You also have to consider gearing; a manual usually has shorter gearing which will give you more power at the cost of EPA mpgs.  In reality you only need to keep the revs low on these short geared manuals to get big gains.  The short 5th gear on something like the Fit kills the epa highway mpg, but you get more power without downshifting, and if you drop you speed, you can make massive gains.  I get over 40mpg in my Mazda3.  Try doing that with the autobox version.</description>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<dc:creator>argentla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would seriously question whether the Elantra autobox really produces better real-world mileage than the 5-speed. An unhappy week spent with the last of the previous generation -- which I&#039;m pretty sure had the same engine and transmission -- returned about 10% poorer fuel economy than my 5-speed Mazda3, despite 300 cc less displacement and 22 fewer horsepower. 

Not only were its gear ratios ill-matched to the engine, it was hyper-sensitive to throttle-induced downshifts. The engine was relatively quiet in around-town driving (to its credit), but I quickly realized that if you didn&#039;t pay attention, the transmission would shift up, then immediately kick down and stay in the next lower gear. That improved throttle response, certainly, but it resulted in less than 20 mpg in city traffic. The only way I got the transmission to behave was to drive like there was an egg under the throttle and make a point of lifting off after every upshift (especially into fourth). My feeling was, &quot;This is a labor-saving device?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I would seriously question whether the Elantra autobox really produces better real-world mileage than the 5-speed. An unhappy week spent with the last of the previous generation &#8212; which I&#8217;m pretty sure had the same engine and transmission &#8212; returned about 10% poorer fuel economy than my 5-speed Mazda3, despite 300 cc less displacement and 22 fewer horsepower. </p>
<p>Not only were its gear ratios ill-matched to the engine, it was hyper-sensitive to throttle-induced downshifts. The engine was relatively quiet in around-town driving (to its credit), but I quickly realized that if you didn&#8217;t pay attention, the transmission would shift up, then immediately kick down and stay in the next lower gear. That improved throttle response, certainly, but it resulted in less than 20 mpg in city traffic. The only way I got the transmission to behave was to drive like there was an egg under the throttle and make a point of lifting off after every upshift (especially into fourth). My feeling was, &#8220;This is a labor-saving device?&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SpacemanSpiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpacemanSpiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone seen an Elantra Touring yet?  According to Hyundai they will have a Sportier/European style ride.  I&#039;m looking forward to seeing a review...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Anyone seen an Elantra Touring yet?  According to Hyundai they will have a Sportier/European style ride.  I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing a review&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeveto3</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeveto3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Against my better judgment, I bought my now ex a Hyundai Elantra instead of a Civic.  She thought the Civic was boring, fell in love with the red Elantra&#039;s purple dash lights.

We purchased the quasi-SAAB model with the hatchback and the knockoff SAAB &quot;waterfall&quot; dashboard.  Much to my surprise, the car ended up being really nice.  It now has well over 100K miles on it, and has not had any issues.

My only criticism of the car, was with the auto-transmission gearing, whose second gear would dump the engine into lower revs where no torque existed.

Otherwise, the Elantra was reliable and returned as high as 37mpg on long trips.  No, the car was not Mazda fun, but otherwise it did everything I expect of a car.

As for the new model, call me crazy, but I really like the new look.  I wish it was available with a hatchback, and I admit that at some angles it looks a little weak-kneed.  But otherwise, I really like it.  I&#039;m constantly confusing it (at a distance) with a Lexus.  Which is to say to Hyundai, &quot;mission accomplished.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Against my better judgment, I bought my now ex a Hyundai Elantra instead of a Civic.  She thought the Civic was boring, fell in love with the red Elantra&#8217;s purple dash lights.</p>
<p>We purchased the quasi-SAAB model with the hatchback and the knockoff SAAB &#8220;waterfall&#8221; dashboard.  Much to my surprise, the car ended up being really nice.  It now has well over 100K miles on it, and has not had any issues.</p>
<p>My only criticism of the car, was with the auto-transmission gearing, whose second gear would dump the engine into lower revs where no torque existed.</p>
<p>Otherwise, the Elantra was reliable and returned as high as 37mpg on long trips.  No, the car was not Mazda fun, but otherwise it did everything I expect of a car.</p>
<p>As for the new model, call me crazy, but I really like the new look.  I wish it was available with a hatchback, and I admit that at some angles it looks a little weak-kneed.  But otherwise, I really like it.  I&#8217;m constantly confusing it (at a distance) with a Lexus.  Which is to say to Hyundai, &#8220;mission accomplished.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;...there are no truly terrible compact cars available in the United States market any more...&lt;/em&gt;

Dodge.  Caliber.

Well, ok, maybe it&#039;s not Lada terrible.  Or even Kia Sephia/Chevy Cavalier/Hyundai Excel terrible, but it manages to be worse than the Neon, and that takes real effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>&#8230;there are no truly terrible compact cars available in the United States market any more&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Dodge.  Caliber.</p>
<p>Well, ok, maybe it&#8217;s not Lada terrible.  Or even Kia Sephia/Chevy Cavalier/Hyundai Excel terrible, but it manages to be worse than the Neon, and that takes real effort.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BEAT</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/comparo-2009-huyndai-elantra-vs-2009-kia-spectra/comment-page-1/#comment-965732</link>
		<dc:creator>BEAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any difference with the Kia and the Huyndai sorry I meant Hyundai.

It&#039;s a typical car for typical people. Nothing to brag abou.

A car that can take you to work and back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t see any difference with the Kia and the Huyndai sorry I meant Hyundai.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a typical car for typical people. Nothing to brag abou.</p>
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		<title>By: gslippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gslippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like them both.

[Hey... Fix your &quot;Hyundai&quot; spelling in the headline.]</description>
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		<title>By: Demetri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for the Spectra, but if you buy an Elantra, my guess is that you don&#039;t care much about handling.  Seriously sloppy steering and it completely gives up when pushed even slightly.  A Corolla is a big step up from the steering and handling of an Elantra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I can&#8217;t speak for the Spectra, but if you buy an Elantra, my guess is that you don&#8217;t care much about handling.  Seriously sloppy steering and it completely gives up when pushed even slightly.  A Corolla is a big step up from the steering and handling of an Elantra.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;However, there is still a barrel, and there are still cars to be found at the bottom. And here they are.&lt;/em&gt;

This is poetry.  Nice review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>However, there is still a barrel, and there are still cars to be found at the bottom. And here they are.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Orian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the current Spectra was built upon the old Elantra platform, however I don&#039;t believe Hyundai did major upgrades to the new Elantra platform outside of new sheet metal and interior so it may be closer than I think.

I&#039;m pretty sure they are coming out of different plants, but could be mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I thought the current Spectra was built upon the old Elantra platform, however I don&#8217;t believe Hyundai did major upgrades to the new Elantra platform outside of new sheet metal and interior so it may be closer than I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That formula won&#039;t work for Detroit. To gain back their bearings they will have to offer technology and customer service that are beyond most of the Hyundai and Kia models.

H/K don&#039;t really have very good long-term quality. Once they hit the century mark, they tend to get far rougher and defect prone than their Detroit brethren. At least that&#039;s been my experiences at the auctions.

As for late models, I&#039;m seeing a lot more cost cutting in new models than those from the prior generations. The technology has also improved a great deal, especially with the development of metals. I would say that the greatest benefit of the American marketplace is that vehicles are finally becoming safer without necessarily having to be heavier. Until recently, the pricing pressures on commodities have negated whatever improvements would have been possible in material quality.

An interesting comparo that would probably highlight this is taking a 1994 Camry and comparing it with a 2009 Corolla. The thickness of the body panels, the technology and maintenance ease (or lack of ease) of the engines, the quality of the interiors... and even the perceived quality of the product vis-a-vis it&#039;s competitors. Despite Toyota&#039;s reputation these days, their older models were the ones that earned the premium for quality. The current models have a far heavier focus on decontenting in order to keep them price competitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That formula won&#8217;t work for Detroit. To gain back their bearings they will have to offer technology and customer service that are beyond most of the Hyundai and Kia models.</p>
<p>H/K don&#8217;t really have very good long-term quality. Once they hit the century mark, they tend to get far rougher and defect prone than their Detroit brethren. At least that&#8217;s been my experiences at the auctions.</p>
<p>As for late models, I&#8217;m seeing a lot more cost cutting in new models than those from the prior generations. The technology has also improved a great deal, especially with the development of metals. I would say that the greatest benefit of the American marketplace is that vehicles are finally becoming safer without necessarily having to be heavier. Until recently, the pricing pressures on commodities have negated whatever improvements would have been possible in material quality.</p>
<p>An interesting comparo that would probably highlight this is taking a 1994 Camry and comparing it with a 2009 Corolla. The thickness of the body panels, the technology and maintenance ease (or lack of ease) of the engines, the quality of the interiors&#8230; and even the perceived quality of the product vis-a-vis it&#8217;s competitors. Despite Toyota&#8217;s reputation these days, their older models were the ones that earned the premium for quality. The current models have a far heavier focus on decontenting in order to keep them price competitive.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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