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	<title>Comments on: Citizen Petitions Put Photo Enforcement Companies on the Defensive</title>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511500</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>make_or_break 

Look, we all love seeing idiots get their due.
Its a good thing I don&#039;t carry a hand gun most days!
But I tried to explain THESE are NOT the ones getting the tickets.
Its the right-turn-on-reds getting the tickets.
AND the cameras don&#039;t tell the tale.
For instance IF you stop, creep up for better vision...YOU get a ticket.

And again another point is the first lie...it was to prevent accidents.
It is proven with data it isn&#039;t happening AND the right turn violators, the 75 percent getting fined, do NOT cause the accidents.

So let the sun shine on the bull and hopefully  sterilize.</description>
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<p>Look, we all love seeing idiots get their due.<br />
Its a good thing I don&#8217;t carry a hand gun most days!<br />
But I tried to explain THESE are NOT the ones getting the tickets.<br />
Its the right-turn-on-reds getting the tickets.<br />
AND the cameras don&#8217;t tell the tale.<br />
For instance IF you stop, creep up for better vision&#8230;YOU get a ticket.</p>
<p>And again another point is the first lie&#8230;it was to prevent accidents.<br />
It is proven with data it isn&#8217;t happening AND the right turn violators, the 75 percent getting fined, do NOT cause the accidents.</p>
<p>So let the sun shine on the bull and hopefully  sterilize.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511491</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor quibble: Red-light cameras weren&#039;t ousted from Cincinnati. The vote last fall was in essence a preemptive strike, and kept them from being installed. The City never got as far as letting a contract.

BTW, the vote only applied to the City of Cincinnati, but it seems to have had an effect on the suburbs as well. Not one suburban community has even discussed them seriously, so in that case, elected officials seem to realize what the public doesn&#039;t want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Minor quibble: Red-light cameras weren&#8217;t ousted from Cincinnati. The vote last fall was in essence a preemptive strike, and kept them from being installed. The City never got as far as letting a contract.</p>
<p>BTW, the vote only applied to the City of Cincinnati, but it seems to have had an effect on the suburbs as well. Not one suburban community has even discussed them seriously, so in that case, elected officials seem to realize what the public doesn&#8217;t want.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: make_or_break</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511430</link>
		<dc:creator>make_or_break</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh...I&#039;ve gotten used to them. I actually enjoy watching the idiots who are CLEARLY WAY LATE getting through the intersection set off the telltale flash. Sadistic I know, but I&#039;d rather have that than that driver t-boning me when the traffic signal says I&#039;m supposedly good to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Meh&#8230;I&#8217;ve gotten used to them. I actually enjoy watching the idiots who are CLEARLY WAY LATE getting through the intersection set off the telltale flash. Sadistic I know, but I&#8217;d rather have that than that driver t-boning me when the traffic signal says I&#8217;m supposedly good to go.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: snabster</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511412</link>
		<dc:creator>snabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, individuals citizens against the power of politicians desperate for cash, photo camera companies, insurance companies and traffic blue haired ladies?  One would think this is as stupid as revolutions based on quartering soldiers inside homes and stamp duties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Gosh, individuals citizens against the power of politicians desperate for cash, photo camera companies, insurance companies and traffic blue haired ladies?  One would think this is as stupid as revolutions based on quartering soldiers inside homes and stamp duties.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: findude</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511361</link>
		<dc:creator>findude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in Montgomery County, Maryland, http://wtopnews.com/?nid=706&amp;sid=1718050 cops caught by cameras get their tickets thrown out.

It&#039;s all about due process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->And in Montgomery County, Maryland, <a href="http://wtopnews.com/?nid=706&amp;sid=1718050" rel="nofollow">http://wtopnews.com/?nid=706&amp;sid=1718050</a> cops caught by cameras get their tickets thrown out.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about due process.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jaje</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511349</link>
		<dc:creator>jaje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t we have red light cameras - those not intended to make money.  The irresponsible installations reduce the yellow time to catch more people.  Mainly they don&#039;t extend the yellows.  I&#039;m not against them catching the few who habitually run red lights several seconds after it turns red b/c they are dangerous to those around us.  They seldomly get caught b/c a cop has to be there at the right time.  If you do install red light cameras - it should be required to post the yellow lights slightly longer maybe 1 - 2 seconds to give those who can make the light enough time.

A much easier fix is actually posting the green to flash 2-3 seconds before it will change b/c those stale green lights are the worst.  Give me time to make a decision not a fraction of a second to speed up or slam on the brakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Why can&#8217;t we have red light cameras &#8211; those not intended to make money.  The irresponsible installations reduce the yellow time to catch more people.  Mainly they don&#8217;t extend the yellows.  I&#8217;m not against them catching the few who habitually run red lights several seconds after it turns red b/c they are dangerous to those around us.  They seldomly get caught b/c a cop has to be there at the right time.  If you do install red light cameras &#8211; it should be required to post the yellow lights slightly longer maybe 1 &#8211; 2 seconds to give those who can make the light enough time.</p>
<p>A much easier fix is actually posting the green to flash 2-3 seconds before it will change b/c those stale green lights are the worst.  Give me time to make a decision not a fraction of a second to speed up or slam on the brakes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511346</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The city of Schaumburg did this as a result of angry voter petitioning.</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511345</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was announced in the Chicago papers today the city of Schaumburg, IL has removed all cameras from lights.

A featured series on this has run all week in the Daily Herald.

First, 75 percent of red light tickets has come from Right Turns at Red Lights...NOT from running red lights as advertised.

Second.  turning on red lights WITHOUT complete stops has NOT caused but a very few accidents, if any.
These are the proven statistics.

Therefore the cameras have always been about money.

IF they REALLY wanted to prevent accidents, this could get a whole lot uglier with speed enforced cameras or tollway pass records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It was announced in the Chicago papers today the city of Schaumburg, IL has removed all cameras from lights.</p>
<p>A featured series on this has run all week in the Daily Herald.</p>
<p>First, 75 percent of red light tickets has come from Right Turns at Red Lights&#8230;NOT from running red lights as advertised.</p>
<p>Second.  turning on red lights WITHOUT complete stops has NOT caused but a very few accidents, if any.<br />
These are the proven statistics.</p>
<p>Therefore the cameras have always been about money.</p>
<p>IF they REALLY wanted to prevent accidents, this could get a whole lot uglier with speed enforced cameras or tollway pass records.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511336</link>
		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can thank the UK for showing us what a monitored society ends up looking like along with how the traffic fines follow. It&#039;s a shame the subjects over there don&#039;t get to have a say in such matters, more like

&quot;Yes me Lord&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We can thank the UK for showing us what a monitored society ends up looking like along with how the traffic fines follow. It&#8217;s a shame the subjects over there don&#8217;t get to have a say in such matters, more like</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes me Lord&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: superbadd75</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/citizen-petitions-put-photo-enforcement-companies-on-the-defensive/comment-page-1/#comment-1511329</link>
		<dc:creator>superbadd75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The citizens are speaking, and traffic/red light cameras are not wanted! They are not for safety, they are for revenue. Big Brother will not be tolerated.</description>
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