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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler Suicide Watch 37: No Lease on Life</title>
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		<title>By: Josh34</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drive by my local Chrysler dealer frequently.

A few weeks ago their lot became stuffed with 300s and trucks.
Nothing there I would look twice at.
It&#039;s very obvious what isn&#039;t selling. I feel sorry for my dealer being stuck with so much of this unpopular stock.

I hope they survive so I can get original parts for my oldie Chrysler until they build a car I&#039;m interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I drive by my local Chrysler dealer frequently.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago their lot became stuffed with 300s and trucks.<br />
Nothing there I would look twice at.<br />
It&#8217;s very obvious what isn&#8217;t selling. I feel sorry for my dealer being stuck with so much of this unpopular stock.</p>
<p>I hope they survive so I can get original parts for my oldie Chrysler until they build a car I&#8217;m interested in.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These three distinct V6 engine families are due to be replaced with a single new engine (available in several displacements) due in 2010.&quot;

And if they make it, they will replicate a strategy Nissan has used successfully with their VQ engine series for almost 15 years now.  Talk about being late to the game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;These three distinct V6 engine families are due to be replaced with a single new engine (available in several displacements) due in 2010.&#8221;</p>
<p>And if they make it, they will replicate a strategy Nissan has used successfully with their VQ engine series for almost 15 years now.  Talk about being late to the game!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: morbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>morbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Barbera Dodge, where screaming ads and loud mouthed sales guy can get you into a 2007 Sebring for only $399 down and $399 a month.

That joker (Gary Barbera) has one of the sweetest bayfront summer homes in Ocean City, NJ, with a private canal/boat launch.  He ain&#039;t hurtin&#039; (yet).

Funny thing is that the only bigger jackass for car sales in the Tri-State area (PA/SJ/DE), Frank Kerbeck, is two blocks down from him.  Guess assholes love company.

 windswords - Atlantic City / Ocean City area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Gary Barbera Dodge, where screaming ads and loud mouthed sales guy can get you into a 2007 Sebring for only $399 down and $399 a month.</p>
<p>That joker (Gary Barbera) has one of the sweetest bayfront summer homes in Ocean City, NJ, with a private canal/boat launch.  He ain&#8217;t hurtin&#8217; (yet).</p>
<p>Funny thing is that the only bigger jackass for car sales in the Tri-State area (PA/SJ/DE), Frank Kerbeck, is two blocks down from him.  Guess assholes love company.</p>
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		<title>By: MLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3.3L and 3.8L engines used in the minivans, Wrangler, and the late base model Pacifica are closely related.  The 3.7L truck engine (Liberty, Nitro, Ram, Dakota, Durango/Aspen) is most closely related to the 4.7L V8.  The 3.5L and 4.0L V6s (300/Charger/Challenger, minivans, Pacifica, Sebring/Avenger/Journey) are closely related.

These three distinct V6 engine families are due to be replaced with a single new engine (available in several displacements) due in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The 3.3L and 3.8L engines used in the minivans, Wrangler, and the late base model Pacifica are closely related.  The 3.7L truck engine (Liberty, Nitro, Ram, Dakota, Durango/Aspen) is most closely related to the 4.7L V8.  The 3.5L and 4.0L V6s (300/Charger/Challenger, minivans, Pacifica, Sebring/Avenger/Journey) are closely related.</p>
<p>These three distinct V6 engine families are due to be replaced with a single new engine (available in several displacements) due in 2010.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Chrysler have so many V6s?  They had a display at the local mall, and had four vehicles.  The Jeep Wrangler had a 3.8L, the Liberty a 3.7, the Journey a 3.5, and the van had a 3.3.  That doesn&#039;t seem very cost effective, or any of these engines closely related mills with different displacements?</description>
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		<title>By: shiney</title>
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		<dc:creator>shiney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;jim3480 : 
July 28th, 2008 at 12:49 pm 


Hey c’mon everyone. This is Cerberus. Why, these guys are Masters of the Universe, dontchya know? Show a little respect!

Who else would buy a car company with vastly inferior products at the very peak of a Finance/Insurance/Real Estate bubble - and that comes with an extortionary labor union relationship that will bleed you to death - and best of all, hire Bob Nardelli to run it the whole shebang?

Geniuses, every one of ‘em!&lt;/em&gt;

+1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>jim3480 :<br />
July 28th, 2008 at 12:49 pm </p>
<p>Hey c’mon everyone. This is Cerberus. Why, these guys are Masters of the Universe, dontchya know? Show a little respect!</p>
<p>Who else would buy a car company with vastly inferior products at the very peak of a Finance/Insurance/Real Estate bubble &#8211; and that comes with an extortionary labor union relationship that will bleed you to death &#8211; and best of all, hire Bob Nardelli to run it the whole shebang?</p>
<p>Geniuses, every one of ‘em!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rodster205

&lt;em&gt;I figured this out back in 1996 when I looked at several leasing options. The 36 mo. lease payment on an $18K Chevy Cavalier (ha!)&lt;/em&gt;

They were selling Cavs for $18k in 1996?!  That&#039;s like $24k today!  Did it come with solid-gold trim or something?</description>
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<p><em>I figured this out back in 1996 when I looked at several leasing options. The 36 mo. lease payment on an $18K Chevy Cavalier (ha!)</em></p>
<p>They were selling Cavs for $18k in 1996?!  That&#8217;s like $24k today!  Did it come with solid-gold trim or something?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jim3480</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim3480</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey c&#039;mon everyone.  This is Cerberus.  Why, these guys are Masters of the Universe, dontchya know? Show a little respect!

Who else would buy a car company with vastly inferior products at the very peak of a Finance/Insurance/Real Estate bubble - and that comes with an extortionary labor union relationship that will bleed you to death - and best of all, hire Bob Nardelli to run it the whole shebang?

Geniuses, every one of &#039;em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hey c&#8217;mon everyone.  This is Cerberus.  Why, these guys are Masters of the Universe, dontchya know? Show a little respect!</p>
<p>Who else would buy a car company with vastly inferior products at the very peak of a Finance/Insurance/Real Estate bubble &#8211; and that comes with an extortionary labor union relationship that will bleed you to death &#8211; and best of all, hire Bob Nardelli to run it the whole shebang?</p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dodge dealer I drive by every morning was sitting on a lot full of Dodge trucks. Now they have a lot full of avengers, or chargers or whatever. I&#039;m wondering where all the trucks suddenly went, because there is no way in hell they sold all of them that quickly./</description>
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		<title>By: Wulv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wulv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how that guy who started the massive Chrysler dealership in Edmonton ( or Calgary?)  feels right now hearing about the leases being dumped...</description>
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		<title>By: Ronin317</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronin317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rodster,

the sad thing is that most people don&#039;t know just how bad of a deal it is...

Man, I&#039;m lucky I ditched my SUV in April of &#039;06. I don&#039;t even know why I bought it in the first place...what the hell was I thinking? Young and Stupid...</description>
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<p>the sad thing is that most people don&#8217;t know just how bad of a deal it is&#8230;</p>
<p>Man, I&#8217;m lucky I ditched my SUV in April of &#8216;06. I don&#8217;t even know why I bought it in the first place&#8230;what the hell was I thinking? Young and Stupid&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: indi500fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>indi500fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sherman
Why would Cerb want to divorce the UAW?
The UAW holds the key to a financial bailout from a Democrat Congress &amp; President in 09.</description>
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Why would Cerb want to divorce the UAW?<br />
The UAW holds the key to a financial bailout from a Democrat Congress &amp; President in 09.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rodster205</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodster205</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;I bet if you stole one the dealer and the three headed dog would thank you.&lt;/cite&gt;

Did you check the iginiton?  They may have left the keys in them for you...

It&#039;s no suprise that leases are dead for the big 2.8 since the largest component of the lease payment is depreciation, as determined by the &quot;residual value&quot; at the end of the lease.  The leasing companies set optimistic residual values on SUVs and trucks 2-3 years ago and now are &quot;upside down&quot; because the SUV/truck is worth far less than the leasing company predicted. 

I figured this out back in 1996 when I looked at several leasing options.  The 36 mo. lease payment on an $18K Chevy Cavalier (ha!) was $100 more per month than to buy it with zero down for 60 months.  But an $18K Honda Accord had a lease payment $100 LESS than the zero down/60 mo. payment.  The difference was the residual value, about $12K on the Accord and about $7K on the Cavalier.  And that $7K was pretty optimistic even then.  After I got done laughing the Chevy finance guy admitted that it was a horrible deal to lease a Cavalier.</description>
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<p>Did you check the iginiton?  They may have left the keys in them for you&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no suprise that leases are dead for the big 2.8 since the largest component of the lease payment is depreciation, as determined by the &#8220;residual value&#8221; at the end of the lease.  The leasing companies set optimistic residual values on SUVs and trucks 2-3 years ago and now are &#8220;upside down&#8221; because the SUV/truck is worth far less than the leasing company predicted. </p>
<p>I figured this out back in 1996 when I looked at several leasing options.  The 36 mo. lease payment on an $18K Chevy Cavalier (ha!) was $100 more per month than to buy it with zero down for 60 months.  But an $18K Honda Accord had a lease payment $100 LESS than the zero down/60 mo. payment.  The difference was the residual value, about $12K on the Accord and about $7K on the Cavalier.  And that $7K was pretty optimistic even then.  After I got done laughing the Chevy finance guy admitted that it was a horrible deal to lease a Cavalier.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sherman Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So tell me Airhen how was Cerberus ging to buy Chrysler and divorce the UAW? Once workers vote to have a union in a work place it exists for that workplace forever unless the workers vote to decertify the union which virtually never happens.

Even if they go Ch11 they may be off the hook for some obligations but its up to the bankruptcy courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->So tell me Airhen how was Cerberus ging to buy Chrysler and divorce the UAW? Once workers vote to have a union in a work place it exists for that workplace forever unless the workers vote to decertify the union which virtually never happens.</p>
<p>Even if they go Ch11 they may be off the hook for some obligations but its up to the bankruptcy courts.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chrylser out, GM out, Ford to follow?  Interesting times.

rtz...are you sure Target isn&#039;t selling them?</description>
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		<title>By: Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At some point, these will be enough of a bargain that someone will take it. The crossfire is a dog at $40k, but at 20k it&#039;s worth buying...even if the company tanks you can still fix it with MB parts.</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I always wondered about Cerberus buying Chrysler is them buying a car company that is married to the UAW? Maybe the oil prices caught them by surprise, however I would think that they would have had a long term plan, including a divorce with the UAW? Honda is building a new plant in my home state to build non-union Civics to start with. It just seems like to me that they would want the same thing, along with GM and Ford. Providing that they survive, this may be a way to do so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What I always wondered about Cerberus buying Chrysler is them buying a car company that is married to the UAW? Maybe the oil prices caught them by surprise, however I would think that they would have had a long term plan, including a divorce with the UAW? Honda is building a new plant in my home state to build non-union Civics to start with. It just seems like to me that they would want the same thing, along with GM and Ford. Providing that they survive, this may be a way to do so?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting morbo talks about leave overs in Jersey. There are more than a couple of 2007 and a few 2006 leave overs from the big three out there and not just in Jersey. 

The thing to remember is the 2007&#039;s and 2006&#039;s have nothing to do with the fuel crisis this Spring. They should have been gone. 

Let me tell you what you can buy around NE Pa. 2006 300SRV&#039;s dodge durangos, and Jeep commanders and cherokees. (If you like GM bargains, how about Caddy DTS, Buick Lucernes.)The overbuilding of mostly trucks and suv&#039;s was going to come to a halt by the end of this year anyway. The gas crunch just accelerated it six months. 

Again, as someone who was inside a dealership, unless you have some highly profitable other dealerships, you cannot be a chrysler dealer for long with this amount of iron laying around. Farago talked about this overbuilding at chrysler a year ago. 

Chrysler may get their wish of having less dealers, but I don&#039;t think the parent company can last any longer than some of these stretched dealers. 

Some wag made an interesting comment about the lifetime engine warranty at Chrysler. Whose lifetime is insured the car or the factory? Could this warranty be actually less than the 3/36 you get from other companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It is interesting morbo talks about leave overs in Jersey. There are more than a couple of 2007 and a few 2006 leave overs from the big three out there and not just in Jersey. </p>
<p>The thing to remember is the 2007&#8217;s and 2006&#8217;s have nothing to do with the fuel crisis this Spring. They should have been gone. </p>
<p>Let me tell you what you can buy around NE Pa. 2006 300SRV&#8217;s dodge durangos, and Jeep commanders and cherokees. (If you like GM bargains, how about Caddy DTS, Buick Lucernes.)The overbuilding of mostly trucks and suv&#8217;s was going to come to a halt by the end of this year anyway. The gas crunch just accelerated it six months. </p>
<p>Again, as someone who was inside a dealership, unless you have some highly profitable other dealerships, you cannot be a chrysler dealer for long with this amount of iron laying around. Farago talked about this overbuilding at chrysler a year ago. </p>
<p>Chrysler may get their wish of having less dealers, but I don&#8217;t think the parent company can last any longer than some of these stretched dealers. </p>
<p>Some wag made an interesting comment about the lifetime engine warranty at Chrysler. Whose lifetime is insured the car or the factory? Could this warranty be actually less than the 3/36 you get from other companies?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
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		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morbo,

What part of South Jersey do you hail from? I grew up in Millville.</description>
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		<title>By: AccAzda</title>
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		<dc:creator>AccAzda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..

I second the comment about Chrysler overflow..

I live in the DE / Phila state area. The local Dodge / Chrysler/ Jeep dealership has so much overflow.. (Gary Barbara 2-3 blocks south of Cottman Ave on the Blvd) I thought I had lost my mind. Ive never seen.. so much excess. ShTT, I bet ya could rent a whirlybird and look over the area and see a big DESPERATE SIGN over the dealership. Poor stupid bas*rds.

The Chrysler / Dodge / Jeep dealership has about 4 extra lots that hold inventory.

He has his main lot that is busting at the seams. He has a lot next to main one that has some overflow.
There is a lot up the street that used to be a other car sales company, that building went, and the whole massive lot is dodge trucks.
A wawa is across the street from that with Dodge Trucks sitting behind it.
And behind them all, is a 70s duplexes, and they all look on a swarm, as in a mad mad insano swarm of UNSOLD DODGE VEHICLES.

You couldnt get me in there if you pushed me. I avoid that place like the plague.</description>
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<p>I second the comment about Chrysler overflow..</p>
<p>I live in the DE / Phila state area. The local Dodge / Chrysler/ Jeep dealership has so much overflow.. (Gary Barbara 2-3 blocks south of Cottman Ave on the Blvd) I thought I had lost my mind. Ive never seen.. so much excess. ShTT, I bet ya could rent a whirlybird and look over the area and see a big DESPERATE SIGN over the dealership. Poor stupid bas*rds.</p>
<p>The Chrysler / Dodge / Jeep dealership has about 4 extra lots that hold inventory.</p>
<p>He has his main lot that is busting at the seams. He has a lot next to main one that has some overflow.<br />
There is a lot up the street that used to be a other car sales company, that building went, and the whole massive lot is dodge trucks.<br />
A wawa is across the street from that with Dodge Trucks sitting behind it.<br />
And behind them all, is a 70s duplexes, and they all look on a swarm, as in a mad mad insano swarm of UNSOLD DODGE VEHICLES.</p>
<p>You couldnt get me in there if you pushed me. I avoid that place like the plague.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My co-worker just bought an &#039;06 Crossfire for 17k. 12k miles. Someone took a big bath on that one. How on earth could you sell a new one for $40k?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My co-worker just bought an &#8216;06 Crossfire for 17k. 12k miles. Someone took a big bath on that one. How on earth could you sell a new one for $40k?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Sir Edward Grey&#039;s morose observation in August, 1914, &quot;The lights are going out all over Auburn Hills and I doubt we will see them go on again in our lifetime.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->To paraphrase Sir Edward Grey&#8217;s morose observation in August, 1914, &#8220;The lights are going out all over Auburn Hills and I doubt we will see them go on again in our lifetime.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: morbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>morbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s bad when you can still buy brand &#039;new&#039; 2007 models eight months in 2008.

It&#039;s beyond bad when there are still multiple &#039;new&#039; 2006 models available eight months into 2008..

Maybe it&#039;s just South Jersey, but several local DCJ dealers around here still have &#039;new&#039; 2006 Crossfire&#039;s, Caravans, and Grand Cherokee&#039;s for sale.

And they&#039;re still not selling with $10K+ on the hoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s bad when you can still buy brand &#8216;new&#8217; 2007 models eight months in 2008.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s beyond bad when there are still multiple &#8216;new&#8217; 2006 models available eight months into 2008..</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just South Jersey, but several local DCJ dealers around here still have &#8216;new&#8217; 2006 Crossfire&#8217;s, Caravans, and Grand Cherokee&#8217;s for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Detroit-Iron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Detroit-Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rtz

I bet if you stole one the dealer and the three headed dog would thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are trying to get suppliers to loan them money. By taking longer and longer to pay, they are in effect taking large working capital loans from their supplier base. This will not end well. Cash burn rate is the only thing that matters- well, that and new products. At some point depreciation on their products will be so bad that even fleets will bail. Believe me, Hertz knows exactly what it costs to buy/rent/sell an Avenger. That is when CerberusAuto is toast. The other trigger could very well be the death of a supplier. Some of the domestic suppliers are in very bad shape indeed. They can&#039;t afford to float Chrysler a loan. And if Cerbeus goes broke,  if they are caught with the debt at the bankruptcy, good luck, go stand in line.


As for the financials, I expect that they will be leaked eventually. This is the Youtube age, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->They are trying to get suppliers to loan them money. By taking longer and longer to pay, they are in effect taking large working capital loans from their supplier base. This will not end well. Cash burn rate is the only thing that matters- well, that and new products. At some point depreciation on their products will be so bad that even fleets will bail. Believe me, Hertz knows exactly what it costs to buy/rent/sell an Avenger. That is when CerberusAuto is toast. The other trigger could very well be the death of a supplier. Some of the domestic suppliers are in very bad shape indeed. They can&#8217;t afford to float Chrysler a loan. And if Cerbeus goes broke,  if they are caught with the debt at the bankruptcy, good luck, go stand in line.</p>
<p>As for the financials, I expect that they will be leaked eventually. This is the Youtube age, after all.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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