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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler Suicide Watch 20: Cerberus Bares Its Teeth</title>
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		<title>By: seldomawake</title>
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		<dc:creator>seldomawake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, am sorry to hear it.

I was sorry to see what happened to Home Depot, which used to be one of my absolutely favorite stores, also. I still have a $50 gift card to Home Depot because I couldn&#039;t bring myself to buy anything there.

I suspect that the Home Depot story is going to parallel Chrysler&#039;s. I also suspect that Walter Chrysler isn&#039;t going to be thrilled.</description>
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<p>I was sorry to see what happened to Home Depot, which used to be one of my absolutely favorite stores, also. I still have a $50 gift card to Home Depot because I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to buy anything there.</p>
<p>I suspect that the Home Depot story is going to parallel Chrysler&#8217;s. I also suspect that Walter Chrysler isn&#8217;t going to be thrilled.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. No</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. No</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nardelli should be good for 10 fresh &quot;Death March&quot; columns.  Cerberus, feeling Wall Street angst, succumbed to the immediacy that cost-cutting brings to the financials.  This ignores the one thing that could save Chrysler:  PRODUCT!  It&#039;s sad that Wolfgang won&#039;t be there to launch the vehicles people want.

And Cerberus won&#039;t have a turnaround:  it will be a Gekko sequel (sell the parts and dump it!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nardelli should be good for 10 fresh &#8220;Death March&#8221; columns.  Cerberus, feeling Wall Street angst, succumbed to the immediacy that cost-cutting brings to the financials.  This ignores the one thing that could save Chrysler:  PRODUCT!  It&#8217;s sad that Wolfgang won&#8217;t be there to launch the vehicles people want.</p>
<p>And Cerberus won&#8217;t have a turnaround:  it will be a Gekko sequel (sell the parts and dump it!).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without reading all of the posts, I&#039;m going to offer a different opinion than what is generally seen on these pages.  People are constantly posting about how accountants destroy the car companies and what is needed is a &quot;car guy.&quot;  However, if you look at the history of the car business as a whole, there are many &quot;car guys&quot; that have fallen by the wayside because they ignored the business side of what is a business.  Good accountants just don&#039;t look at the expenditures side of the ledger, they also look at the revenue side.  A good accountant looks for ways to grow sales as well as cut the per unit cost.  The problem with at least some of the Detroit bean counters in recent history has been the focus on cutting production costs with no regard to sales/product.  Saving $20 on the cost of even a cheap car isn&#039;t a good idea if the car ends up feeling and driving cheap.  The Corvair has been cited on these pages as the turning point in the culture at GM, when the bean counters took over.  In order to save something like $20, they produced a car that was much less than it could have been, and as a result, didn&#039;t sell nearly as well as they needed it to.  This is an exmaple of bad accounting at work not accounting in general.  This is something that could happen at Chrysler if they just start hacking away without looking at the big picture.  Sure it may be cheaper to build cars in China, but if nobody buys them, you will lose money.  And, it doesn&#039;t take an accountant to figure that one out.

No, I&#039;m not an accountant; I&#039;m actually an engineer, whose married to a good accountant, one that has grown her company&#039;s business (but, unfortunately hasn&#039;t been able to keep her CEO&#039;s spending in check).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Without reading all of the posts, I&#8217;m going to offer a different opinion than what is generally seen on these pages.  People are constantly posting about how accountants destroy the car companies and what is needed is a &#8220;car guy.&#8221;  However, if you look at the history of the car business as a whole, there are many &#8220;car guys&#8221; that have fallen by the wayside because they ignored the business side of what is a business.  Good accountants just don&#8217;t look at the expenditures side of the ledger, they also look at the revenue side.  A good accountant looks for ways to grow sales as well as cut the per unit cost.  The problem with at least some of the Detroit bean counters in recent history has been the focus on cutting production costs with no regard to sales/product.  Saving $20 on the cost of even a cheap car isn&#8217;t a good idea if the car ends up feeling and driving cheap.  The Corvair has been cited on these pages as the turning point in the culture at GM, when the bean counters took over.  In order to save something like $20, they produced a car that was much less than it could have been, and as a result, didn&#8217;t sell nearly as well as they needed it to.  This is an exmaple of bad accounting at work not accounting in general.  This is something that could happen at Chrysler if they just start hacking away without looking at the big picture.  Sure it may be cheaper to build cars in China, but if nobody buys them, you will lose money.  And, it doesn&#8217;t take an accountant to figure that one out.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not an accountant; I&#8217;m actually an engineer, whose married to a good accountant, one that has grown her company&#8217;s business (but, unfortunately hasn&#8217;t been able to keep her CEO&#8217;s spending in check).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Biro</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65639</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Biro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with those who blame Chrysler&#039;s current situation on the Germans. The Chrysler 300 proved that a gold mine could be found in the strategy calling for the use of previous-generation Mercedes platforms for the each new generation of Chryslers and Dodges.  It was genius.  It was perfect.  

Until a group of hard-core elitists at Mercedes decided they were terrified at diluting the exclusivity of their brand.  And so, the Chrysler Group was starved of product and the funding to develop its own up-to-date platforms.  Never mind that Chrysler kept the cash coming in while Mercedes dealt with quality-control problems and sagging sales in the early part of this decade.

Look.  Maybe Cerberus&#039;s turn at the helm of Chrysler will work out much better than any of us expect.  But, as of right now, it looks like our worst fears are about the be realized.  I am not interested in buying a trebadged Chery with a Dodge nameplate on it.  

All this is enough to make me think about buying a new Chevy, Pontiac, Ford or Mercury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree with those who blame Chrysler&#8217;s current situation on the Germans. The Chrysler 300 proved that a gold mine could be found in the strategy calling for the use of previous-generation Mercedes platforms for the each new generation of Chryslers and Dodges.  It was genius.  It was perfect.  </p>
<p>Until a group of hard-core elitists at Mercedes decided they were terrified at diluting the exclusivity of their brand.  And so, the Chrysler Group was starved of product and the funding to develop its own up-to-date platforms.  Never mind that Chrysler kept the cash coming in while Mercedes dealt with quality-control problems and sagging sales in the early part of this decade.</p>
<p>Look.  Maybe Cerberus&#8217;s turn at the helm of Chrysler will work out much better than any of us expect.  But, as of right now, it looks like our worst fears are about the be realized.  I am not interested in buying a trebadged Chery with a Dodge nameplate on it.  </p>
<p>All this is enough to make me think about buying a new Chevy, Pontiac, Ford or Mercury.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: d996</title>
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		<dc:creator>d996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me, this ship has sunk. The only way to re-float it is going to take a massive herculean effort. People like Nardelli are the only hope. Their self-importance is only exceeded by their ego which are needed to change dramatically the way C operates. What is puzzling though is why they blew out Wolfbang, he is one crazy dude-just what C needs. If Nardelli can&#039;t do it expect the salvage operation to begin by next summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Believe me, this ship has sunk. The only way to re-float it is going to take a massive herculean effort. People like Nardelli are the only hope. Their self-importance is only exceeded by their ego which are needed to change dramatically the way C operates. What is puzzling though is why they blew out Wolfbang, he is one crazy dude-just what C needs. If Nardelli can&#8217;t do it expect the salvage operation to begin by next summer.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whitenose: I didn&#039;t blame Iaccoca for anything, I just pointed out the truth. The dirty secret is that no ONE has blame, it&#039;s all of them! They like it that way.

One of the biggest responsibilities of a leader is to ensure the continued success of his organization after he leaves.

Modern CEO&#039;s don&#039;t seem to be held accountable for that. They should. More of their stock options should be held from vesting until 5 years after they leave.  Then maybe they would pay attention.

Nope, none of the late American car guys are getting credit as &quot;great&quot; because they should have made corrections back in the seventies. Anyone after that who had the right ideas apparently never got control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Whitenose: I didn&#8217;t blame Iaccoca for anything, I just pointed out the truth. The dirty secret is that no ONE has blame, it&#8217;s all of them! They like it that way.</p>
<p>One of the biggest responsibilities of a leader is to ensure the continued success of his organization after he leaves.</p>
<p>Modern CEO&#8217;s don&#8217;t seem to be held accountable for that. They should. More of their stock options should be held from vesting until 5 years after they leave.  Then maybe they would pay attention.</p>
<p>Nope, none of the late American car guys are getting credit as &#8220;great&#8221; because they should have made corrections back in the seventies. Anyone after that who had the right ideas apparently never got control.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jackc10</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65538</link>
		<dc:creator>jackc10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the Chrysler execs like to eat a catered lunch in coat and tie for two hours every day, no matter what else is hapopening. They will get to hear stories about how great a man Nardelli is, great cost cutting plans and tales and cheers from his playing football at some minor college.

 Next will be suppliers and vendors installing their parts on the cars and trucks to save having Chrysler employees do it. Hey, it was a mess at HD, but maybe it will work on a Dodge.

This guy is just out for himself and is an example that idiots can be in charge and rich. He managed to savage Home Depot and provide a great opportunity for Lowes expansion.

I do not work for HD but have some friends who did. Chaos at the top and praise for the boss will be the norm, not matter what investors or customers might see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I hope the Chrysler execs like to eat a catered lunch in coat and tie for two hours every day, no matter what else is hapopening. They will get to hear stories about how great a man Nardelli is, great cost cutting plans and tales and cheers from his playing football at some minor college.</p>
<p> Next will be suppliers and vendors installing their parts on the cars and trucks to save having Chrysler employees do it. Hey, it was a mess at HD, but maybe it will work on a Dodge.</p>
<p>This guy is just out for himself and is an example that idiots can be in charge and rich. He managed to savage Home Depot and provide a great opportunity for Lowes expansion.</p>
<p>I do not work for HD but have some friends who did. Chaos at the top and praise for the boss will be the norm, not matter what investors or customers might see.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pb35</title>
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		<dc:creator>pb35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I posted previously, I worked at home office for THD and I must say that it was the worst job that I&#039;ve ever had. I couldn&#039;t get out of there fast enough. The final straw was when my position was outsourced to India. I was promoted as a result of this but part of my new job description was to train our &quot;partners in India&quot; or as I call it &quot;digging my own grave.&quot; Rather than complain about my situation I found another job elsewhere.

As for my former position, my sources tell me that my job is coming back stateside this month. Good job Bob! And good luck Chrysler employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Like I posted previously, I worked at home office for THD and I must say that it was the worst job that I&#8217;ve ever had. I couldn&#8217;t get out of there fast enough. The final straw was when my position was outsourced to India. I was promoted as a result of this but part of my new job description was to train our &#8220;partners in India&#8221; or as I call it &#8220;digging my own grave.&#8221; Rather than complain about my situation I found another job elsewhere.</p>
<p>As for my former position, my sources tell me that my job is coming back stateside this month. Good job Bob! And good luck Chrysler employees.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jdv</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be a great thing.
Massive beancounter layoffs are long overdue.</description>
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Massive beancounter layoffs are long overdue.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: OverheadCam9000</title>
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		<dc:creator>OverheadCam9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dog has already put up the gates to keep the troops from bolting....

See:
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070808/AUTO01/708080379/1148/rss25

&quot;Chrysler LLC is discouraging white-collar employees from applying for jobs at former parent Daimler AG or its Chrysler Financial unit in a bid to keep jittery workers from leaving the automaker during its transition under a new owner and a new chief executive.&quot; 8/8/07 Detroit News.

Sit, stay....until &lt;strong&gt;we&lt;/strong&gt; are ready to boot you out the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Dog has already put up the gates to keep the troops from bolting&#8230;.</p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070808/AUTO01/708080379/1148/rss25" rel="nofollow">http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070808/AUTO01/708080379/1148/rss25</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Chrysler LLC is discouraging white-collar employees from applying for jobs at former parent Daimler AG or its Chrysler Financial unit in a bid to keep jittery workers from leaving the automaker during its transition under a new owner and a new chief executive.&#8221; 8/8/07 Detroit News.</p>
<p>Sit, stay&#8230;.until <strong>we</strong> are ready to boot you out the door.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s look at another GE high exec who was passed over for Welch&#039;s chair and went on to the automotive industry:  David Cote.

Cote was welcomed as heir apparent by the (very) longtime head of TRW, a tier-1 automotive supplier of everything from seatbelts and airbags to electronics.  

Within 2 years of being named CEO TRW as a company was decimated of employees and manufacturing, had this and that division sold off or spun off, and then quickly ran out the back door, leaving TRW reeling, a shell of its former self.

This Chrysler thing has all the appearance of an individual chosen not for management skills, but for overseeing whatever it takes for quick bottom line enhancement so that Chrysler can a) go public, or b)sold out, Cerberus can make a killing, and whoever the bag holder is in 2-3 years (China, or IPO shareholders) is stuck with the fruits of this play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Let&#8217;s look at another GE high exec who was passed over for Welch&#8217;s chair and went on to the automotive industry:  David Cote.</p>
<p>Cote was welcomed as heir apparent by the (very) longtime head of TRW, a tier-1 automotive supplier of everything from seatbelts and airbags to electronics.  </p>
<p>Within 2 years of being named CEO TRW as a company was decimated of employees and manufacturing, had this and that division sold off or spun off, and then quickly ran out the back door, leaving TRW reeling, a shell of its former self.</p>
<p>This Chrysler thing has all the appearance of an individual chosen not for management skills, but for overseeing whatever it takes for quick bottom line enhancement so that Chrysler can a) go public, or b)sold out, Cerberus can make a killing, and whoever the bag holder is in 2-3 years (China, or IPO shareholders) is stuck with the fruits of this play.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Captain Tungsten (of GM)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Tungsten (of GM)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big win for Chrysler Purchasing.  Think of the deals they are going to get on fasteners and tools.</description>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ends with Chrysler manufacturing nothing, in which case an ***-kicker who could care less about what anyone thinks or feels might be just the kind of guy the Three Headed Monster wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This ends with Chrysler manufacturing nothing, in which case an ***-kicker who could care less about what anyone thinks or feels might be just the kind of guy the Three Headed Monster wants.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: taxman100</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxman100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good car for $20k and the equivalent of a 2 speed Waring blender?  I suggest the Mercury Grand Marquis.  
The reason they don&#039;t sell is people want the cheap crap with a lot of shiny buttons, ala Walmart.  That&#039;s why a crappy Mariner outsells a durable Grand Marquis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A good car for $20k and the equivalent of a 2 speed Waring blender?  I suggest the Mercury Grand Marquis.<br />
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		<title>By: NICKNICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICKNICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that I and everyone who comments at TTAC says that it&#039;s the product that sells cars and that detroit (and everyone else) needs to stop making crap...but a thought just hit me: what if that&#039;s not enough?  what if people *want* crap?

Waring makes a perfectly great blender--bombproof construction, just two speeds, and about $130.  Their sales pale in comparison to $30 Osters with a billion junk buttons at Wal-Mart.  There *ARE* good cars out there: BMW 3-series and Toyota Land Cruisers for example.  But they&#039;re expensive.

Can anyone really make a GOOD blender for $30 or a GOOD car for $20K?  Since cars are appliances to most people, aren&#039;t they just going to buy crap anyway?  If good is what they want, well, it&#039;s already out there for the buying, and they&#039;re not doing it.

There&#039;s only room for so many crap blenders and so many crap cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I know that I and everyone who comments at TTAC says that it&#8217;s the product that sells cars and that detroit (and everyone else) needs to stop making crap&#8230;but a thought just hit me: what if that&#8217;s not enough?  what if people *want* crap?</p>
<p>Waring makes a perfectly great blender&#8211;bombproof construction, just two speeds, and about $130.  Their sales pale in comparison to $30 Osters with a billion junk buttons at Wal-Mart.  There *ARE* good cars out there: BMW 3-series and Toyota Land Cruisers for example.  But they&#8217;re expensive.</p>
<p>Can anyone really make a GOOD blender for $30 or a GOOD car for $20K?  Since cars are appliances to most people, aren&#8217;t they just going to buy crap anyway?  If good is what they want, well, it&#8217;s already out there for the buying, and they&#8217;re not doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: cheezeweggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheezeweggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray for Ceberus. Chrysler needs a good kick in the ass.</description>
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		<title>By: ttilley</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65492</link>
		<dc:creator>ttilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiring a failed CEO is hardly a hopeful sign regarding Chrysler&#039;s new ownership. It&#039;s nice that Cerebus doesn&#039;t need to deal with pesky issues like producing value for publicly-held ownership, but really...Detroit&#039;s biggest problem over the last several decades has been it&#039;s failure to do exactly that.

Nardelli may well shake things up at Chrysler, and Chrysler may well need shaking up, but as a Home Depot shareholder I&#039;d point out that this doesn&#039;t mean anyone needs things to be shaken up _a_la_Nardelli_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hiring a failed CEO is hardly a hopeful sign regarding Chrysler&#8217;s new ownership. It&#8217;s nice that Cerebus doesn&#8217;t need to deal with pesky issues like producing value for publicly-held ownership, but really&#8230;Detroit&#8217;s biggest problem over the last several decades has been it&#8217;s failure to do exactly that.</p>
<p>Nardelli may well shake things up at Chrysler, and Chrysler may well need shaking up, but as a Home Depot shareholder I&#8217;d point out that this doesn&#8217;t mean anyone needs things to be shaken up _a_la_Nardelli_.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, Chrysler styling.  I don&#039;t want to wander off thread, but I they have a long history of sabotaging themselves with bad design.  60 was horrific, 61 worse still, and the 62 redesign...well, look them up.  When success rears it&#039;s head, whoever is running Chrysler has always found a way to drop marbles under their own feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ah yes, Chrysler styling.  I don&#8217;t want to wander off thread, but I they have a long history of sabotaging themselves with bad design.  60 was horrific, 61 worse still, and the 62 redesign&#8230;well, look them up.  When success rears it&#8217;s head, whoever is running Chrysler has always found a way to drop marbles under their own feet.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: whitenose</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65477</link>
		<dc:creator>whitenose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landcrusher: If you want to blame someone, you could equally blame K.T. Keller, who ran Chrysler during the immediate postwar years and utterly failed to recognize the importance of styling. That&#039;s when Chrysler really lost the plot. Chrysler would never again attain the same heights or respect it had in the late 30&#039;s.

Further, you could blame Lynne Townshend, for totally destroying Chrysler&#039;s management structure with his oddball theories on how employees should be trained. And bad investments into foreign car companies. His decisions in the 60&#039;s directly lead to the crisis in the late 70&#039;s/early 80&#039;s.

Without Iaccoca, Chrysler would have ceased to exist in 1981. His greatest failure was that he didn&#039;t reinvest in R&amp;D and core platform development. This led to the problems in the late 80&#039;s. (Most consumers didn&#039;t want new 8 year old cars: who knew...?) But Iaccoca ultimately left the company in pretty good shape, in the early 90&#039;s. They had new platforms, reasonably good cars, and a clear plan for moving forward.

The current failure is the total responsibility of the Germans. Despite having total managerial control over Chrysler and deep cash reserves, they took something that worked reasonably well and had some potential and ran it into the ground. To say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Landcrusher: If you want to blame someone, you could equally blame K.T. Keller, who ran Chrysler during the immediate postwar years and utterly failed to recognize the importance of styling. That&#8217;s when Chrysler really lost the plot. Chrysler would never again attain the same heights or respect it had in the late 30&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Further, you could blame Lynne Townshend, for totally destroying Chrysler&#8217;s management structure with his oddball theories on how employees should be trained. And bad investments into foreign car companies. His decisions in the 60&#8217;s directly lead to the crisis in the late 70&#8217;s/early 80&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Without Iaccoca, Chrysler would have ceased to exist in 1981. His greatest failure was that he didn&#8217;t reinvest in R&amp;D and core platform development. This led to the problems in the late 80&#8217;s. (Most consumers didn&#8217;t want new 8 year old cars: who knew&#8230;?) But Iaccoca ultimately left the company in pretty good shape, in the early 90&#8217;s. They had new platforms, reasonably good cars, and a clear plan for moving forward.</p>
<p>The current failure is the total responsibility of the Germans. Despite having total managerial control over Chrysler and deep cash reserves, they took something that worked reasonably well and had some potential and ran it into the ground. To say the least.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65475</link>
		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nardelli&#039;s appointment is interesting. He does represent one of the less-friendly sides of capitalism, but maybe that what Chrysler needs. 

Cerberus paid ~$8 Billion for Chrysler? Sheesh, Starbucks is worth $20 Billion.

With the right labor agreement that allows them to shed jobs and close factories (even if it takes a strike), the Chrysler and Jeep &lt;i&gt;NAMES&lt;/i&gt; alone are worth 8 billion+. It&#039;ll be interesting how they get to the point where they can carve out the value...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nardelli&#8217;s appointment is interesting. He does represent one of the less-friendly sides of capitalism, but maybe that what Chrysler needs. </p>
<p>Cerberus paid ~$8 Billion for Chrysler? Sheesh, Starbucks is worth $20 Billion.</p>
<p>With the right labor agreement that allows them to shed jobs and close factories (even if it takes a strike), the Chrysler and Jeep <i>NAMES</i> alone are worth 8 billion+. It&#8217;ll be interesting how they get to the point where they can carve out the value&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Claude Dickson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65466</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t see a scenario for Chrysler&#039;s survival.  The long shot (very long shot IMHO) is entering new expanding markets overseas.  But I doubt this (or bringing in Chinese autos) happening fast enough to make a difference.

Chrysler doesn&#039;t have any product right now and precious little in the pipeline.  You can cut and slash all you want, but a car company without product that consumers want to buy is dead in the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I just don&#8217;t see a scenario for Chrysler&#8217;s survival.  The long shot (very long shot IMHO) is entering new expanding markets overseas.  But I doubt this (or bringing in Chinese autos) happening fast enough to make a difference.</p>
<p>Chrysler doesn&#8217;t have any product right now and precious little in the pipeline.  You can cut and slash all you want, but a car company without product that consumers want to buy is dead in the water.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cry &quot;Bullshit&quot;.

If Lee Iacoca was such a success, why did Chrysler so quickly turn back into trash?

He was a limited success with a great personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I cry &#8220;Bullshit&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Lee Iacoca was such a success, why did Chrysler so quickly turn back into trash?</p>
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		<title>By: Cicero</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-suicide-watch-20-cerberus-bares-its-teeth/comment-page-1/#comment-65463</link>
		<dc:creator>Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this Nardelli hire has some logic to it.  The Sebring sucks as a car, but it could kick ass as a riding mower.</description>
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		<title>By: starlightmica (Richard Chen)</title>
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		<dc:creator>starlightmica (Richard Chen)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;indi500fan:&lt;/em&gt;

I think that Chainsaw Al would be the perfect antidote to Rabid Rick.  Bring him on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>indi500fan:</em></p>
<p>I think that Chainsaw Al would be the perfect antidote to Rabid Rick.  Bring him on!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: oboylepr</title>
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		<dc:creator>oboylepr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz will wipe the floor with him! :-)</description>
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