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		<title>By: hal</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-refresh-and-market-like-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1560219</link>
		<dc:creator>hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Seth L: Lancia was doing badly in the UK and Ireland so FIAT pulled the plug and stopped making Lancias in RHD sometime in the nineties.
Never saw the point of Lancia personally - not a lot of space between FIAT and Alfa Romeo for a third marque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@Seth L: Lancia was doing badly in the UK and Ireland so FIAT pulled the plug and stopped making Lancias in RHD sometime in the nineties.<br />
Never saw the point of Lancia personally &#8211; not a lot of space between FIAT and Alfa Romeo for a third marque.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: WetWilly</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-refresh-and-market-like-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1560216</link>
		<dc:creator>WetWilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At least the logo is kind of nice.&lt;/i&gt;

I dunno. The first time I saw it, I thought someone resized the old logo but forgot to click the &quot;Keep Aspect Ratio&quot; checkbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>At least the logo is kind of nice.</i></p>
<p>I dunno. The first time I saw it, I thought someone resized the old logo but forgot to click the &#8220;Keep Aspect Ratio&#8221; checkbox.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Via Nocturna</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-refresh-and-market-like-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1560165</link>
		<dc:creator>Via Nocturna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They seriously marched this &quot;lifestyle&quot; tripe out &lt;em&gt;again&lt;/em&gt;?

I think Mr. Sparky had the right idea. The desperately prolonged existence of the PT Cruiser needs to be terminated, and the less said about the Sebring, the better. Despite my distaste for it, I concede that the 300 has its merits, and minivans were one of the few things this company managed to do right. The Chrysler brand is just going to have to tread water until 2012 and hope the rest of the Fiatsler portfolio can make up the slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->They seriously marched this &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; tripe out <em>again</em>?</p>
<p>I think Mr. Sparky had the right idea. The desperately prolonged existence of the PT Cruiser needs to be terminated, and the less said about the Sebring, the better. Despite my distaste for it, I concede that the 300 has its merits, and minivans were one of the few things this company managed to do right. The Chrysler brand is just going to have to tread water until 2012 and hope the rest of the Fiatsler portfolio can make up the slack.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: leothelionator</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-refresh-and-market-like-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1560068</link>
		<dc:creator>leothelionator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the whole thing very entertaining.  Just how many ways can you dress up a pig?

MBella wrote:  I’m sure that logo will get people to confuse a Sebring with an Aston Martin.

I was thinking it&#039;ll get mistaken for a Ford Thunderbird logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I find the whole thing very entertaining.  Just how many ways can you dress up a pig?</p>
<p>MBella wrote:  I’m sure that logo will get people to confuse a Sebring with an Aston Martin.</p>
<p>I was thinking it&#8217;ll get mistaken for a Ford Thunderbird logo.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Seth L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ed, you deserve hazard pay for sitting through these presentations.  Chrysler has done special editions on most of it&#039;s cars every year.  How is this any different?

Anyone have an idea why Lancia&#039;s are not sold in the UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks Ed, you deserve hazard pay for sitting through these presentations.  Chrysler has done special editions on most of it&#8217;s cars every year.  How is this any different?</p>
<p>Anyone have an idea why Lancia&#8217;s are not sold in the UK?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: detlef</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-refresh-and-market-like-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-1559929</link>
		<dc:creator>detlef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Chrysler is getting the axe in Europe and the Voyager (T&amp;C) will be relabled a Lancia, too.&lt;/em&gt;

What, they couldn&#039;t call it the &quot;T&amp;C by Maserati&quot;?

I wonder how Chrysler will badge the Viper replacement in Europe, assuming one ever sees the light of day.  Simply as the &quot;Viper&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Chrysler is getting the axe in Europe and the Voyager (T&amp;C) will be relabled a Lancia, too.</em></p>
<p>What, they couldn&#8217;t call it the &#8220;T&amp;C by Maserati&#8221;?</p>
<p>I wonder how Chrysler will badge the Viper replacement in Europe, assuming one ever sees the light of day.  Simply as the &#8220;Viper&#8221;?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=244692&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chrysler is getting the axe in Europe&lt;/a&gt; and the Voyager (T&amp;C) will be relabled a Lancia, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href="http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?AR=244692" rel="nofollow">Chrysler is getting the axe in Europe</a> and the Voyager (T&#038;C) will be relabled a Lancia, too.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: detlef</title>
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		<dc:creator>detlef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An LX-based Lancia, eh?  I think that would make it the first Lancia with front-engine, rwd architecture since the Flaminia ended production in 1970.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->An LX-based Lancia, eh?  I think that would make it the first Lancia with front-engine, rwd architecture since the Flaminia ended production in 1970.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MBella</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that logo will get people to confuse a Sebring with an Aston Martin.</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the logo is kind of nice.  

Of course, no one will notice when you glue it on the hood of a Sebring.

Why not just kill Sebring and Cruiser (they have Avenger and Caliber in the same showroom) and focus on the refeshed 300 and TC?  

That would help with the reinvention and give customer a while to forget about Sebring before the Fiat based midsized sedan shows up.  Really, the sooner people start forgetting about the Sebring, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->At least the logo is kind of nice.  </p>
<p>Of course, no one will notice when you glue it on the hood of a Sebring.</p>
<p>Why not just kill Sebring and Cruiser (they have Avenger and Caliber in the same showroom) and focus on the refeshed 300 and TC?  </p>
<p>That would help with the reinvention and give customer a while to forget about Sebring before the Fiat based midsized sedan shows up.  Really, the sooner people start forgetting about the Sebring, the better.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers don&#039;t seem completely crazy. They aren&#039;t talking about getting back to 2008 sales levels until 2012, and 2008 was hardly a barnburner year.

I think a huge problem with repositioning the Chrysler brand is going to be the dealer network. The remaining Chrysler dealers are all co-located with Dodge, &quot;Ram&quot; and Jeep sales. How does the same salesperson pitch Ram Tough and &quot;sophisticated sexiness&quot;. Do they play country and western or classical music in the service waiting room? Strippers or ballet dancers? Imagine selling Freightliners and Mercedes Benz S-classes in the same showroom with the same sales people. Doesn&#039;t work, does it?

Also these dealers have been battle hardened into the pile &#039;em high and sell &#039;em cheap mode, and that&#039;s the good ones! The bad ones are just crooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The numbers don&#8217;t seem completely crazy. They aren&#8217;t talking about getting back to 2008 sales levels until 2012, and 2008 was hardly a barnburner year.</p>
<p>I think a huge problem with repositioning the Chrysler brand is going to be the dealer network. The remaining Chrysler dealers are all co-located with Dodge, &#8220;Ram&#8221; and Jeep sales. How does the same salesperson pitch Ram Tough and &#8220;sophisticated sexiness&#8221;. Do they play country and western or classical music in the service waiting room? Strippers or ballet dancers? Imagine selling Freightliners and Mercedes Benz S-classes in the same showroom with the same sales people. Doesn&#8217;t work, does it?</p>
<p>Also these dealers have been battle hardened into the pile &#8216;em high and sell &#8216;em cheap mode, and that&#8217;s the good ones! The bad ones are just crooks.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: th009</title>
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		<dc:creator>th009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A god analysis but ... those two 6 MP images do take forever to load.  Maybe you could pick up smaller (and better-quality) images from Chrysler&#039;s original slide deck here:
http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/pdf/business/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A god analysis but &#8230; those two 6 MP images do take forever to load.  Maybe you could pick up smaller (and better-quality) images from Chrysler&#8217;s original slide deck here:<br />
<a href="http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/pdf/business/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/pdf/business/</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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