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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler Kills 11 Fewer Dealers Than Reported (789)</title>
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		<title>By: Old Guy Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-kills-11-fewe-dealers-than-reported-789/comment-page-2/#comment-1483796</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Guy Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Does this corporation have an animus against certain cities?&lt;/b&gt;

Closing existing dealers does not preclude opening a new dealer in the area in the future.

As Forbes (or someone, forgot who) pointed out, Toyota does quite well with only 1200 dealers nationwide.  Perhaps they are trying to imitate that model.  Apparently, most states have franchising laws protecting the dealers from getting shut off by corporate, so this is a rare chance to get rid of the weaker links.</description>
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<p>Closing existing dealers does not preclude opening a new dealer in the area in the future.</p>
<p>As Forbes (or someone, forgot who) pointed out, Toyota does quite well with only 1200 dealers nationwide.  Perhaps they are trying to imitate that model.  Apparently, most states have franchising laws protecting the dealers from getting shut off by corporate, so this is a rare chance to get rid of the weaker links.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Domestic Hearse:
2. Lots of remote points in the sticks were closed. Flyover, drive-by country. Areas where rural men work the land, drive trucks, battle the elements. And where do you think these buyers are going for their next new trucks, now that the nearest Dodge or Jeep point is hundreds of miles away?&lt;/i&gt;

They&#039;ll either drive (like many import owners), pick a closer domestic brand dealer, or buy a used Chrysler product from a local indie lot / internet seller.

The new auto market is best served by fewer, larger dealers. The corporate mother ship can better control the brand damage that crap dealers are capable of.

Although, in my urban neck of the woods, the domestics&#039; cannibalistic tendencies are reinforced by too many suburban stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Domestic Hearse:<br />
2. Lots of remote points in the sticks were closed. Flyover, drive-by country. Areas where rural men work the land, drive trucks, battle the elements. And where do you think these buyers are going for their next new trucks, now that the nearest Dodge or Jeep point is hundreds of miles away?</i></p>
<p>They&#8217;ll either drive (like many import owners), pick a closer domestic brand dealer, or buy a used Chrysler product from a local indie lot / internet seller.</p>
<p>The new auto market is best served by fewer, larger dealers. The corporate mother ship can better control the brand damage that crap dealers are capable of.</p>
<p>Although, in my urban neck of the woods, the domestics&#8217; cannibalistic tendencies are reinforced by too many suburban stores.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rottenbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rottenbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I looked at the dealerships in Washington on the list. Both the Dodge and Chrysler dealers in Tacoma get the ax... Both the Jeep and Chrysler stores in Longview get it. Both the Jeep and Chrysler stores in Yakima get it. I do not get it. Does this corporation have an animus against certain cities?&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, and I noticed that both Kirkland and Bellevue CDJ dealerships remain, even though they&#039;re only about 6 miles apart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I looked at the dealerships in Washington on the list. Both the Dodge and Chrysler dealers in Tacoma get the ax&#8230; Both the Jeep and Chrysler stores in Longview get it. Both the Jeep and Chrysler stores in Yakima get it. I do not get it. Does this corporation have an animus against certain cities?</em></p>
<p>Yeah, and I noticed that both Kirkland and Bellevue CDJ dealerships remain, even though they&#8217;re only about 6 miles apart!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rottenbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rottenbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The dealer itself would have made THOUSANDS on me. Wouldn’t budge one inch.&lt;/em&gt;

I had the &lt;strong&gt;SAME&lt;/strong&gt; experience at one of the Jeep dealerships I visited. The salesman said &quot;We don&#039;t negotiate on price.&quot; Wouldn&#039;t budge. This was on the Saturday after Chryco declared bankruptcy!! Unbelievable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The dealer itself would have made THOUSANDS on me. Wouldn’t budge one inch.</em></p>
<p>I had the <strong>SAME</strong> experience at one of the Jeep dealerships I visited. The salesman said &#8220;We don&#8217;t negotiate on price.&#8221; Wouldn&#8217;t budge. This was on the Saturday after Chryco declared bankruptcy!! Unbelievable!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a dried up supply line from the factories being closed, this actually makes sense. Closing dealerships *forces* them to sell their cars to the remaining dealerships (at a substantial loss, unfortunately). Theoretically, the surviving dealerships will need new vehicles from somewhere since Chrysler isn&#039;t building them anymore (for the time being, I suppose).

If Chrysler didn&#039;t close dealerships, you&#039;d (eventually) have all these empty lots with very few new vehicles on them to sell.

This is undoubtedly what GM is planning to do soon, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->With a dried up supply line from the factories being closed, this actually makes sense. Closing dealerships *forces* them to sell their cars to the remaining dealerships (at a substantial loss, unfortunately). Theoretically, the surviving dealerships will need new vehicles from somewhere since Chrysler isn&#8217;t building them anymore (for the time being, I suppose).</p>
<p>If Chrysler didn&#8217;t close dealerships, you&#8217;d (eventually) have all these empty lots with very few new vehicles on them to sell.</p>
<p>This is undoubtedly what GM is planning to do soon, as well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rottenbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rottenbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So will these dealers have a fire sale?&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll believe it when I see it. On the last weekend in April, and then again on the first weekend in May, I visited Jeep dealerships and &lt;strong&gt;attempted&lt;/strong&gt; to buy a Jeep Patriot. Let me tell you this: these dealers are living in Fantasyland! It is as though they are completely unaware that Chryco is in bankruptcy, or that the nation is mired in a recession! They wanted top dollar for the vehicle. It was absurd. Jeep Patriot sales for April 2009 are -69% from April 2008. I think part of the reason for the sharp drop is because the dealers are asking way too much. They&#039;re clueless.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it. On the last weekend in April, and then again on the first weekend in May, I visited Jeep dealerships and <strong>attempted</strong> to buy a Jeep Patriot. Let me tell you this: these dealers are living in Fantasyland! It is as though they are completely unaware that Chryco is in bankruptcy, or that the nation is mired in a recession! They wanted top dollar for the vehicle. It was absurd. Jeep Patriot sales for April 2009 are -69% from April 2008. I think part of the reason for the sharp drop is because the dealers are asking way too much. They&#8217;re clueless.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: telrbm1</title>
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		<dc:creator>telrbm1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to, &quot;do the right thing,&quot; and do business with one of them about a month ago, with their employee pricing ++ promotion.

The deal I got on a 300C Heritage still favored the dealer heavily, and they wouldn&#039;t budge.  The dealer wouldn&#039;t contribute ANYTHING to the deal (it was all Chrysler &amp; Chrysler Financial money on the hood), and then wanted me to take it quite deep on the trade.  The dealer itself would have made THOUSANDS on me.  Wouldn&#039;t budge one inch.

I took my business elsewhere, got the deal I wanted on a non-Chrysler product, and they are now out of business.  Good riddance to every one of the turds on this list.</description>
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<p>The deal I got on a 300C Heritage still favored the dealer heavily, and they wouldn&#8217;t budge.  The dealer wouldn&#8217;t contribute ANYTHING to the deal (it was all Chrysler &amp; Chrysler Financial money on the hood), and then wanted me to take it quite deep on the trade.  The dealer itself would have made THOUSANDS on me.  Wouldn&#8217;t budge one inch.</p>
<p>I took my business elsewhere, got the deal I wanted on a non-Chrysler product, and they are now out of business.  Good riddance to every one of the turds on this list.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cory02</title>
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		<dc:creator>cory02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the question now is at what price is a new Chrysler product attractive?  I would be tempeted to pick up an Avenger or Sebring with uConnect to drive to work and save miles on my primary car....but only at a &lt;em&gt;steep&lt;/em&gt; discount.</description>
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		<title>By: skor</title>
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		<dc:creator>skor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two local Chrysler dealers, as well as a Jeep dealer got the ax. 

On the flip side, the local BMW dealer is expanding.  Check out their new 40 bay service department.  Now that&#039;s what I call a garage. 

http://www.parkavebmw.com/new-bmw-service-center.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Two local Chrysler dealers, as well as a Jeep dealer got the ax. </p>
<p>On the flip side, the local BMW dealer is expanding.  Check out their new 40 bay service department.  Now that&#8217;s what I call a garage. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.parkavebmw.com/new-bmw-service-center.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.parkavebmw.com/new-bmw-service-center.htm</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MadHungarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadHungarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chrysler isn&#039;t buying back the rejected dealers&#039; inventory.  However, according to the motion filed in court, as of June 9 all that inventory turns into a pumpkin, so to speak, because after that date the dealers are forbidden from selling any new vehicles on pain of being hauled into court on a kind of contempt charge.  The alleged solution is that they will be &quot;matched&quot; with other dealers to dump the inventory.  However, can ChryCo FORCE any other dealer to buy up all of a rejectee&#039;s inventory?  At any particular price?  &quot;You want me to take all your Sebrings?  Sure.  Four grand apiece.&quot;  I get the feeling we will end up with hundreds of cars in limbo, belonging to dealers who can&#039;t legally sell them.  Until the dealers file bankruptcy themselves.  (Hmmm.  Can the dealer&#039;s BK trustee sell the cars, or is he/she violating the injunction after June 9?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Chrysler isn&#8217;t buying back the rejected dealers&#8217; inventory.  However, according to the motion filed in court, as of June 9 all that inventory turns into a pumpkin, so to speak, because after that date the dealers are forbidden from selling any new vehicles on pain of being hauled into court on a kind of contempt charge.  The alleged solution is that they will be &#8220;matched&#8221; with other dealers to dump the inventory.  However, can ChryCo FORCE any other dealer to buy up all of a rejectee&#8217;s inventory?  At any particular price?  &#8220;You want me to take all your Sebrings?  Sure.  Four grand apiece.&#8221;  I get the feeling we will end up with hundreds of cars in limbo, belonging to dealers who can&#8217;t legally sell them.  Until the dealers file bankruptcy themselves.  (Hmmm.  Can the dealer&#8217;s BK trustee sell the cars, or is he/she violating the injunction after June 9?)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: speedlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the evening news:

The real bonus is that Chryco is NOT buying back the cars...they have to be sold to other dealers AT AUCTION.  Do I recall correctly that up until recently Chryco was stuffing the dealers with cars ?  Talk about a screwing.  &quot;Here, eat this...and this...and this...What, you ripped your pants ? It&#039;s all your fault, you fat bastard !&quot;

I hope the dealers all have homes in Florida.  They will need somewhere to live after personal bankrupcy. (FL has an unlimited home exemption for bankruptcy).

So, the 40k sticker Hemi 300C, which would be sold to us for 37k and still make $ for the dealer, will be sold below real (whatever that actually is) dealer cost to another dealer.

ugly, very ugly.  They could have at least taken the cars back.  Some very expensive booze is being opened tonite......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->According to the evening news:</p>
<p>The real bonus is that Chryco is NOT buying back the cars&#8230;they have to be sold to other dealers AT AUCTION.  Do I recall correctly that up until recently Chryco was stuffing the dealers with cars ?  Talk about a screwing.  &#8220;Here, eat this&#8230;and this&#8230;and this&#8230;What, you ripped your pants ? It&#8217;s all your fault, you fat bastard !&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope the dealers all have homes in Florida.  They will need somewhere to live after personal bankrupcy. (FL has an unlimited home exemption for bankruptcy).</p>
<p>So, the 40k sticker Hemi 300C, which would be sold to us for 37k and still make $ for the dealer, will be sold below real (whatever that actually is) dealer cost to another dealer.</p>
<p>ugly, very ugly.  They could have at least taken the cars back.  Some very expensive booze is being opened tonite&#8230;&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;After a quick scan of the list what was significant to me was a lack of axed dealers in California.&quot;

I don&#039;t think there are as many Chrysler dealerships per potential customer here in California as there are in the east and midwest. Hence Santa Clara County (aka Silicon Valley) didn&#039;t loose a single one in this cull. But, there were only four to start with serving a population of of about 1.75 million people.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think there are as many Chrysler dealerships per potential customer here in California as there are in the east and midwest. Hence Santa Clara County (aka Silicon Valley) didn&#8217;t loose a single one in this cull. But, there were only four to start with serving a population of of about 1.75 million people.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Colinpolyps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colinpolyps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a quick scan of the list what was significant  to me was a lack of axed dealers in California. Does that mean Mopar products sell well there or that there never were many dealers?
 Looks as if the eastern seaboard and mid west dealers really took it on the chin.</description>
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 Looks as if the eastern seaboard and mid west dealers really took it on the chin.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chrysler Kills 11 Fewer Dealers Than Reported (789) &#124; The Truth &#8230; &#124; TechInfoBlog.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrysler Kills 11 Fewer Dealers Than Reported (789) &#124; The Truth &#8230; &#124; TechInfoBlog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Old Guy Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Guy Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a &lt;a title=&quot;I&#039;m the MAP!&quot; href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/chryslerdealerclosings/CA.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;useful map&lt;/a&gt; of Chrysler / Dodge closings.  

If they add the 1000+ GM closings (expected any day now) it could look very crowded, indeed.

Meanwhile Congress might give more of our money to the dealers to &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/news/companies/gm_chrysler_dealers.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009051415&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;let them enjoy some Bailoutedness&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>If they add the 1000+ GM closings (expected any day now) it could look very crowded, indeed.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Congress might give more of our money to the dealers to <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/14/news/companies/gm_chrysler_dealers.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009051415" rel="nofollow">let them enjoy some Bailoutedness</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sherman Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow they &#039;re terminating congressman Vern Buchanan&#039;s dealership in Venice.  That might come back to bite them in the ass</description>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reduce bloated dealer network.....

Isn&#039;t that supposed to be a good thing?</description>
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		<title>By: dcdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcdriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, seems like every Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep dealership in my area (metro DC) is gone, especially in Montgomery County.

I wouldn&#039;t mind getting my hands on a brand new dirt cheap 4WD Jeep Patriot Limited. I&#039;ve always liked that car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->WOW, seems like every Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep dealership in my area (metro DC) is gone, especially in Montgomery County.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind getting my hands on a brand new dirt cheap 4WD Jeep Patriot Limited. I&#8217;ve always liked that car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Old Guy Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-kills-11-fewe-dealers-than-reported-789/comment-page-1/#comment-1483524</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Guy Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s to help the dealers?  

Because if Mopar is going to sell 20 cars in Pensacola, it shouldn&#039;t really matter if it was from one dealership or two or five.  They won&#039;t necessarily sell MORE cars with fewer dealers.  

I can see from a dealer perspective you may not want the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->So it&#8217;s to help the dealers?  </p>
<p>Because if Mopar is going to sell 20 cars in Pensacola, it shouldn&#8217;t really matter if it was from one dealership or two or five.  They won&#8217;t necessarily sell MORE cars with fewer dealers.  </p>
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		<title>By: Joe McKinney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes sense to terminate dealers if there are competing stores in the same market. For example, Sandy Sansing Chrysler in Pensacola, Florida is on the close list. They are right next Door to Hill Kelly Dodge who also owns a Jeep store just up the highway. Does Pensacola really need two Mopar dealers, or would closing one make the other stronger? In this case, close Sansing&#039;s dealership and put Chrysler in with the Hill Kelly Dodge-Jeep dealership. Sansing owns a Chevrolet-Nissan-BMW store across the highway, so he will be fine (unless GM also gives him the axe - Pensacola also two Chevy dealers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It makes sense to terminate dealers if there are competing stores in the same market. For example, Sandy Sansing Chrysler in Pensacola, Florida is on the close list. They are right next Door to Hill Kelly Dodge who also owns a Jeep store just up the highway. Does Pensacola really need two Mopar dealers, or would closing one make the other stronger? In this case, close Sansing&#8217;s dealership and put Chrysler in with the Hill Kelly Dodge-Jeep dealership. Sansing owns a Chevrolet-Nissan-BMW store across the highway, so he will be fine (unless GM also gives him the axe &#8211; Pensacola also two Chevy dealers).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Old Guy Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Guy Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I understood it, but maybe not.

How, exactly, does terminating dealer franchises help Chrysler?  Does it cost them money to have a dealer in Podunk, Texas with a Chrysler sign out front?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I thought I understood it, but maybe not.</p>
<p>How, exactly, does terminating dealer franchises help Chrysler?  Does it cost them money to have a dealer in Podunk, Texas with a Chrysler sign out front?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Old Guy Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Guy Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a brave person to buy a Chrysler / Jeep without knowing for sure the warranty will be honored.

That said, ever since I bought my Toyota the dealer has had nothing but excuses why this or that is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; covered by the (expensive. extended) warranty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s a brave person to buy a Chrysler / Jeep without knowing for sure the warranty will be honored.</p>
<p>That said, ever since I bought my Toyota the dealer has had nothing but excuses why this or that is <i>not</i> covered by the (expensive. extended) warranty.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rodster205</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodster205</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13 in Alabama, 4 of which are in metro Birmingham.  The only good one is Don Drennan Chry-Jeep (and Buick) in Hoover, which is where I bought my Jeep.  Just last weekend the owner of the dealership (Ward Drennan, 3rd generation and good manager) was all over the radio with commercials about how &quot;Chrysler was taking care of it&#039;s customers and would emerge stronger, and they (dealership) would continue to provide the great service they always did.&quot;  Now he looks like an idiot.

I don&#039;t think Ward Drennan is stupid or a liar.  If he had any idea he was on the list I seriously doubt he would have been running commercials defending Chrysler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->13 in Alabama, 4 of which are in metro Birmingham.  The only good one is Don Drennan Chry-Jeep (and Buick) in Hoover, which is where I bought my Jeep.  Just last weekend the owner of the dealership (Ward Drennan, 3rd generation and good manager) was all over the radio with commercials about how &#8220;Chrysler was taking care of it&#8217;s customers and would emerge stronger, and they (dealership) would continue to provide the great service they always did.&#8221;  Now he looks like an idiot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Ward Drennan is stupid or a liar.  If he had any idea he was on the list I seriously doubt he would have been running commercials defending Chrysler.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: HerrKaLeun</title>
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		<dc:creator>HerrKaLeun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don Miller in Madison WI lost two stores.... they must have had 3 because the Dodge store on the same lot as their Mazda dealership (where I bring my 2 Mazdas) is not on the list. they also have a Pontiac dealership on the same lot. Ouch... I hope they stay in business because their service is awesome (for Mazda anyway).

honestly, they could just run that one dealership with all 3 of the Chrysler brands. There was never a need to have single-brand dealers when the company has multiple brands anyway. 

One time I was waiting for my Mazda oil-change and test drove a Caliber to kill some time. what a piece of junk for more money (at similar equipment) than my Mazda 3 5-door. and the Dodge sales guy must have been new to the business (and to cars in general) because he knew absolutely nothing about cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Don Miller in Madison WI lost two stores&#8230;. they must have had 3 because the Dodge store on the same lot as their Mazda dealership (where I bring my 2 Mazdas) is not on the list. they also have a Pontiac dealership on the same lot. Ouch&#8230; I hope they stay in business because their service is awesome (for Mazda anyway).</p>
<p>honestly, they could just run that one dealership with all 3 of the Chrysler brands. There was never a need to have single-brand dealers when the company has multiple brands anyway. </p>
<p>One time I was waiting for my Mazda oil-change and test drove a Caliber to kill some time. what a piece of junk for more money (at similar equipment) than my Mazda 3 5-door. and the Dodge sales guy must have been new to the business (and to cars in general) because he knew absolutely nothing about cars.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: The Comedian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-kills-11-fewe-dealers-than-reported-789/comment-page-1/#comment-1483446</link>
		<dc:creator>The Comedian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last week CT went through the motions of speeding a bill through the legislature to update the state&#039;s franchise laws.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ct.gov/governorrell/cwp/view.asp?A=3675&amp;Q=439690&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Governor Rell&lt;/a&gt; went on TV to sign the bill at the East Hartford CJD(maybe T) dealer.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The legislation puts in place new protections for dealers so they will not be left in &lt;b&gt;a financial bind for new car inventories, tools or parts when a manufacturer shuts down a product line&lt;/b&gt;. In addition, the bill clarifies details of franchise agreements and creates a new system for reimbursing warranty service and labor costs. &lt;b&gt;It also requires payment of the fair market value of the goodwill of a franchise if a product line is shut down.&lt;/b&gt;

“We have already seen Pontiac fade away and lines like Saturn, Saab and Hummer are on the chopping block,” Governor Rell said. “All of these are important protections for Connecticut dealers and they come at a critical time. I thank the Legislature for passing this bill quickly and I am pleased to sign it.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

[emphasis mine]

Good luck with those parts in bold!  On TV I saw the Governor say that she expected car companies to buy back tools, cars and inventory if they kill a brand.

The real question, to me, is why the pols in CT think that any of this will hold sway with a federal bankruptcy judge?

I note, in passing, that the dealer where the bill was signed is not on this closings list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Last week CT went through the motions of speeding a bill through the legislature to update the state&#8217;s franchise laws.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ct.gov/governorrell/cwp/view.asp?A=3675&amp;Q=439690" rel="nofollow">Governor Rell</a> went on TV to sign the bill at the East Hartford CJD(maybe T) dealer.</p>
<blockquote><p>The legislation puts in place new protections for dealers so they will not be left in <b>a financial bind for new car inventories, tools or parts when a manufacturer shuts down a product line</b>. In addition, the bill clarifies details of franchise agreements and creates a new system for reimbursing warranty service and labor costs. <b>It also requires payment of the fair market value of the goodwill of a franchise if a product line is shut down.</b></p>
<p>“We have already seen Pontiac fade away and lines like Saturn, Saab and Hummer are on the chopping block,” Governor Rell said. “All of these are important protections for Connecticut dealers and they come at a critical time. I thank the Legislature for passing this bill quickly and I am pleased to sign it.”</p></blockquote>
<p>[emphasis mine]</p>
<p>Good luck with those parts in bold!  On TV I saw the Governor say that she expected car companies to buy back tools, cars and inventory if they kill a brand.</p>
<p>The real question, to me, is why the pols in CT think that any of this will hold sway with a federal bankruptcy judge?</p>
<p>I note, in passing, that the dealer where the bill was signed is not on this closings list.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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