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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler Halfway Through Asset Fire Sale</title>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-682682</link>
		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chrysler began converting virtually their entire automobile line to unibody construction in 1960. The only exception was the Imperial, which was switched to unibody in 1967.

Technically, Chrysler had first used monocoque construction on the short-lived 1934 Airflow. Unibody is the term used for a partial monocoque construction that has a subframe.

While it&#039;s true that the Caliber-based Patriot/Compass are also unibody construction, the rest of the current Jeep lineup (Wrangler, LIberty, Grand Cherokee, and Commander) still maintain a traditional truck, body-on-frame construction. I believe body-on-frame construction is what is really meant by the little &#039;Trail Rated&#039; badge on most Jeeps.</description>
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<p>Technically, Chrysler had first used monocoque construction on the short-lived 1934 Airflow. Unibody is the term used for a partial monocoque construction that has a subframe.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s true that the Caliber-based Patriot/Compass are also unibody construction, the rest of the current Jeep lineup (Wrangler, LIberty, Grand Cherokee, and Commander) still maintain a traditional truck, body-on-frame construction. I believe body-on-frame construction is what is really meant by the little &#8216;Trail Rated&#8217; badge on most Jeeps.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MrGreenGear</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-682522</link>
		<dc:creator>MrGreenGear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; build a new, car-based (i.e. brand dilluting) Jeep Grand Cherokee, scheduled to debut in 2010.&lt;/em&gt;

I think i just threw up in my mouth a little.

Seriously, could someone who actually cares about the jeep brand please buy it from the .8 before it&#039;s too late?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em> build a new, car-based (i.e. brand dilluting) Jeep Grand Cherokee, scheduled to debut in 2010.</em></p>
<p>I think i just threw up in my mouth a little.</p>
<p>Seriously, could someone who actually cares about the jeep brand please buy it from the .8 before it&#8217;s too late?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: CommanderFish</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-682262</link>
		<dc:creator>CommanderFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usta Bee - That applies to Chrysler quite well especially.  They had a fair amount of momentum built up in the 90&#039;s with the Neon, Viper, LH&#039;s, Cloud Cars, &#039;96 minivans, &#039;94 Ram...  Too bad they cut way too many corners and got bitten in the arse because of it.  

So they sold themselves out to Daimler and started chopping off some limbs, most importantly the small car team that was responsible for beating the Japanese at their own game with the Neon.  Of course, nobody mentions or remembers that the 1G Neons outperformed just about everybody because of the severe cost-cutting that they were doing at the time absolutely destroyed the car&#039;s reputation.  This was also the group that was responsible for the original Stratus and the PT Cruiser.  

Chrysler probably could have been the best-off domestic today if they would have decided to do something about their quality and reliability issues instead of claiming defeat and running to Stuttgart to sell its soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Usta Bee &#8211; That applies to Chrysler quite well especially.  They had a fair amount of momentum built up in the 90&#8217;s with the Neon, Viper, LH&#8217;s, Cloud Cars, &#8216;96 minivans, &#8216;94 Ram&#8230;  Too bad they cut way too many corners and got bitten in the arse because of it.  </p>
<p>So they sold themselves out to Daimler and started chopping off some limbs, most importantly the small car team that was responsible for beating the Japanese at their own game with the Neon.  Of course, nobody mentions or remembers that the 1G Neons outperformed just about everybody because of the severe cost-cutting that they were doing at the time absolutely destroyed the car&#8217;s reputation.  This was also the group that was responsible for the original Stratus and the PT Cruiser.  </p>
<p>Chrysler probably could have been the best-off domestic today if they would have decided to do something about their quality and reliability issues instead of claiming defeat and running to Stuttgart to sell its soul.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Usta Bee</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-682052</link>
		<dc:creator>Usta Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not sorta good, it&#039;s LaSorda good !.

The Big Three remind me of the Black Night from Monty Python. They keep thinking slashing and burning will somehow magically get them to profitability without having products customers want. Each time they slash and burn they cut off another body part. Pretty soon all you&#039;ll see left is a head on the ground yelling &quot;Have at you !&quot; at Toyota.</description>
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<p>The Big Three remind me of the Black Night from Monty Python. They keep thinking slashing and burning will somehow magically get them to profitability without having products customers want. Each time they slash and burn they cut off another body part. Pretty soon all you&#8217;ll see left is a head on the ground yelling &#8220;Have at you !&#8221; at Toyota.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-681452</link>
		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chrysler really is the most intriguing of the detroit 3 to follow. Ford is the most boring, and GM is the most comical.&quot;

Scottie I think you nailed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Chrysler really is the most intriguing of the detroit 3 to follow. Ford is the most boring, and GM is the most comical.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scottie I think you nailed it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-681151</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chryslers Been building Unibody Cars and Trucks for quite some time. Nothing shocking there, except for up until the worthless wagons, Compass and Patriot. Jeep has always use there own platforms and their Ventures with AMC/Renault got them onto building unitized jeeps.


Chrysler really is the most intriguing of the detroit 3 to follow.  Ford is the most boring, and GM is the most comical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Chryslers Been building Unibody Cars and Trucks for quite some time. Nothing shocking there, except for up until the worthless wagons, Compass and Patriot. Jeep has always use there own platforms and their Ventures with AMC/Renault got them onto building unitized jeeps.</p>
<p>Chrysler really is the most intriguing of the detroit 3 to follow.  Ford is the most boring, and GM is the most comical.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-680852</link>
		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To date, we&#039;ve identified over $1 billion in non-earning assets and we&#039;re more than halfway to achieving that goal.&quot;
&quot;They like to write about us and other auto makers who post $15.5 billion or an $8.7 billion loss just to get a few headlines.&quot;

Not to be disrespectful of our Detroit Dynamos, but when they post losses like that, isn&#039;t it fair to say the whole shebang is &quot;non-earning&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;To date, we&#8217;ve identified over $1 billion in non-earning assets and we&#8217;re more than halfway to achieving that goal.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;They like to write about us and other auto makers who post $15.5 billion or an $8.7 billion loss just to get a few headlines.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to be disrespectful of our Detroit Dynamos, but when they post losses like that, isn&#8217;t it fair to say the whole shebang is &#8220;non-earning&#8221;?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: monkeyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re all &quot;Unibody.&quot; Each and every Jeep wagon type thingy is like that. 

That to me says car based already, since there isn&#039;t a &quot;REAL&quot;  truck on the planet that doesn&#039;t have a frame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->They&#8217;re all &#8220;Unibody.&#8221; Each and every Jeep wagon type thingy is like that. </p>
<p>That to me says car based already, since there isn&#8217;t a &#8220;REAL&#8221;  truck on the planet that doesn&#8217;t have a frame.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: CommanderFish</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-680722</link>
		<dc:creator>CommanderFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julianne - I&#039;m guessing that it&#039;s a misunderstanding on the media&#039;s part.  

What is supposedly happening is that the Grand Cherokee, Duragon, and possibly Aspen if they decide to are all going to be on the same unibody platform.  The GC was already unibody, so this is nothing new.  But, with the announcement of the Durango going to a unibody platform, some might equate unibody with car-based.  

A sign of the times.  Chrysler is up and leaving the large body-on-frame SUV market altogether.  Who would have thought that 10 years ago?

windswords - Maybe it&#039;s a sign that they&#039;re &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; planning on stripping and flipping Chrysler?  Call me crazy, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Julianne &#8211; I&#8217;m guessing that it&#8217;s a misunderstanding on the media&#8217;s part.  </p>
<p>What is supposedly happening is that the Grand Cherokee, Duragon, and possibly Aspen if they decide to are all going to be on the same unibody platform.  The GC was already unibody, so this is nothing new.  But, with the announcement of the Durango going to a unibody platform, some might equate unibody with car-based.  </p>
<p>A sign of the times.  Chrysler is up and leaving the large body-on-frame SUV market altogether.  Who would have thought that 10 years ago?</p>
<p>windswords &#8211; Maybe it&#8217;s a sign that they&#8217;re <strong>not</strong> planning on stripping and flipping Chrysler?  Call me crazy, I know.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: motownr</title>
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		<dc:creator>motownr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nissan has a technical center not too far from there in Farmington Hills.</description>
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		<title>By: Julianne</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-680651</link>
		<dc:creator>Julianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what?  a car-based Jeep Grand Cherokee?  isn&#039;t that what the Patriot and Compass are for?</description>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/chrysler-halfway-through-fire-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-680641</link>
		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would Cerberus spend 1.8 billion on a factory (in Detroit of all places) if they are going to strip and sell the company? Does Chery want a plant in Detroit?</description>
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