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	<title>Comments on: Carpool Camera System Counts Heads, Tickets Solo Drivers</title>
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		<title>By: Adonis</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/carpool-camera-system-counts-heads-tickets-solo-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-173982</link>
		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is disturbing.  Another reason to not go to that real life 1984-style police state.  Just as long as they don&#039;t do that here, I should be ok, though.  

Here in Phoenix, the governor, Janet Napolitano, is currently attempting to put in dozens of speed cameras, specifically for revenue.  They don&#039;t even hide it anymore.  It&#039;s never been about safety, so now they just out and say it:  &quot;We&#039;re doing this for money.&quot;  Disturbing and scary stuff.

But it&#039;s hard to know what to do to fight back.  How do  I respond to that?</description>
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<p>Here in Phoenix, the governor, Janet Napolitano, is currently attempting to put in dozens of speed cameras, specifically for revenue.  They don&#8217;t even hide it anymore.  It&#8217;s never been about safety, so now they just out and say it:  &#8220;We&#8217;re doing this for money.&#8221;  Disturbing and scary stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/carpool-camera-system-counts-heads-tickets-solo-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-173472</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;SunnyvaleCA : 
February 26th, 2008 at 2:45 pm 


90% accuracy could mean only that 90% of solo drivers get caught. This doesn’t necessarily mean that 10% of carpoolers will be incorrectly flagged. A test for 2 people in the vehicle that has a bunch of false positives by no false negatives could work just fine.
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I&#039;m sure the government would fix that type of failure rate, I&#039;m not so sure they would have a problem with false negatives (a person in the car who doesn&#039;t get counted).  How would you even be able to fight this type of ticket.  It would be darn hard to prove that you actually did have someone in the car with you (that friend you brought along to testify is probably just lieing to help you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>SunnyvaleCA :<br />
February 26th, 2008 at 2:45 pm </p>
<p>90% accuracy could mean only that 90% of solo drivers get caught. This doesn’t necessarily mean that 10% of carpoolers will be incorrectly flagged. A test for 2 people in the vehicle that has a bunch of false positives by no false negatives could work just fine.<br />
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<p>I&#8217;m sure the government would fix that type of failure rate, I&#8217;m not so sure they would have a problem with false negatives (a person in the car who doesn&#8217;t get counted).  How would you even be able to fight this type of ticket.  It would be darn hard to prove that you actually did have someone in the car with you (that friend you brought along to testify is probably just lieing to help you).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man that country scares me more and more every day, and makes me less likely to ever be a tourist.</description>
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		<title>By: SunnyvaleCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunnyvaleCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90% accuracy could mean only that 90% of solo drivers get caught.  This doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that 10% of carpoolers will be incorrectly flagged.  A test for 2 people in the vehicle that has a bunch of false positives by no false negatives could work just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->90% accuracy could mean only that 90% of solo drivers get caught.  This doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that 10% of carpoolers will be incorrectly flagged.  A test for 2 people in the vehicle that has a bunch of false positives by no false negatives could work just fine.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SexCpotatoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>SexCpotatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to fill the blow-up doll with blood now.  Body temperature?  Heat it with your heated seats!</description>
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		<title>By: speedlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is up with the Brits ?  I once went to a traffic safety conference where the Brits didn&#039;t understand why we Yanks didn&#039;t go massively for Automatic Tickets.

I explained that it is in our nature.  We are &quot;Citizens&quot;.  They are &quot;Subjects&quot;.  I made it a point to emphasize that I was not being insulting, but that it  shows a fundamental difference in how government is related to.

The Aussies do a lot of scameras, but they too are or were Subjects of the British Empire.  We just have a gut reaction to this sort of govt. intrusion.  On the other hand, England has surveillance cameras everywhere and ASBOs.  (antisocial behavior orders).

I don&#039;t want to be england.  We don&#039;t have the same background or attitude, due to some unpleasantness in the late 1700&#039;s.

I cannot tolerate all the American politicos who get on the soapbox and tout the latest scamera, &quot;Just like in Europe&quot;.</description>
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<p>I explained that it is in our nature.  We are &#8220;Citizens&#8221;.  They are &#8220;Subjects&#8221;.  I made it a point to emphasize that I was not being insulting, but that it  shows a fundamental difference in how government is related to.</p>
<p>The Aussies do a lot of scameras, but they too are or were Subjects of the British Empire.  We just have a gut reaction to this sort of govt. intrusion.  On the other hand, England has surveillance cameras everywhere and ASBOs.  (antisocial behavior orders).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to be england.  We don&#8217;t have the same background or attitude, due to some unpleasantness in the late 1700&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I cannot tolerate all the American politicos who get on the soapbox and tout the latest scamera, &#8220;Just like in Europe&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nemphre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemphre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is 90% even close to being acceptable when it comes to handing out violations?  Hope your passenger isn&#039;t bending down to tie their shoe when this thing takes a snapshot.</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90% accuracy means 10% inaccuracy.  But, what&#039;s that compared to some easy revenue generation.</description>
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		<title>By: cgraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet we still have no cure for cancer or AIDS.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Schwartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Brother is watching you! They are 24 years late, but they are working just as hard as they can.</description>
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