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		<title>By: impcrown</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is obviously written by someone who has a substantial anti-Imperial bias- maybe even an anti-Chrysler Corporation bias.
Thanks to the very impressive Torsion-Aire front suspension, Imperial did NOT &quot;float&quot;, nor &quot;waft&quot;.It was well known for almost sports-car like handling, unlike the wallowing of both Cadillac and Lincoln. &quot;Uncle Tom&quot; McCahill, the legendary tester for Mechanix Illustrated, said, among other positive things, that the Imperial &quot;cornered at speed flatter than a tournament billiard-table&quot;, and he knew better than other testers, since he drove Imperials from coast-to-coast most, if not ALL years, and chose to own and drive them himself.
Someone already mentioned the correct spelling of &quot;cachet&quot;- also, &quot;largess&quot; has nothing to do with &quot;large&quot;; Largess refers to generous or liberal giving, as in &quot;charity&quot;.
Efficient design? Hummer?!? That is not design- that&#039;s an ugly square truck that looks like it was welded [badly] together out of leftover appliance parts. Efficient design should include some small bow to aerodynamics- at least when pushing something with motor and wheels through the air.
At least in the mid-fifties to mid/late sixties, Detroit offered DESIGN- some good, some not so good (witness the &#039;57 and &#039;59 Chevys). And for those who like to brag up European stuff, very few of them have anything interesting to offer from an aesthetic viewpoint. Mercedes obviously hasn&#039;t even HAD a body-design department for many years; the last good-looking Mercedes was the late sixties to &#039;71 two-seater, and before that, the early forties models. Virgil Exner&#039;s offerings were sometimes outlandish, but NEVER boring nor un-interesting.
Some of us LIKE fins and sparrow-strainer taillights- they, along with rectangular steering-wheels, push-button transmission-controls, free-standing headlights, and hidden door-compartments are loved by Imperial owners. I would rather drive my &#039;63 Imperial with the cornered wheel and push-buttons for hours at a time than anything with a miniature round wheel and the conventional lever. And I&#039;ve never had a problem with the push-buttons on ANY of the fifteen-plus &#039;57 to &#039;64 Imps I&#039;ve owned and driven hundreds of thousands of miles.
Yes, Imperial trailed Cadillac and Lincoln in sales (they did pass Lincoln once or twice, I believe), but they were also more exclusive and better cars- you can&#039;t build 130,000 Cadillacs   Chevy assembly-line style and come out with the same sort of car as one that is turned out in much smaller quantity and with greater attention to detail. My fifties and early sixties Imps have filled, leaded seams and thicker metal, and more impressive details in countless other areas.
The quality of interior fittings is also much more impressive than same-year Cadillacs (and most Lincolns after &#039;69)
Ugly coloured interiors? No car from any of the Big Three was exempt from the horrors of various shades of olive green in the late sixties and early seventies.
I own a very nice 1967 Crown Coupe, the rear seat of which is easier to get in and out of (as well as having ridiculous amounts of leg-room) than most four-door lesser (and supposedly equal) cars; and it will still turn in 17 to 18 mpg on the road at a steady 65 (as did the &#039;69 that I drove every day for fourteen years and over 300,000 miles on the same engine and transmission).
As for 0 to 60 acceleration- the Imperial&#039;s performance out of the blocks is quite impressive for a nearly two-and-three-quarter-ton luxury car, and it will cruise all day at most ANY speed you choose without feeling it- all while actually being FUN to drive on twisty roads, thanks to the afor-mentioned suspension. In a car of this type, designed to move the discriminating owner from place to place with efficiency and comfort, Imperials have always been MORE than up to the task- all without spilling the tea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is obviously written by someone who has a substantial anti-Imperial bias- maybe even an anti-Chrysler Corporation bias.<br />
Thanks to the very impressive Torsion-Aire front suspension, Imperial did NOT &#8220;float&#8221;, nor &#8220;waft&#8221;.It was well known for almost sports-car like handling, unlike the wallowing of both Cadillac and Lincoln. &#8220;Uncle Tom&#8221; McCahill, the legendary tester for Mechanix Illustrated, said, among other positive things, that the Imperial &#8220;cornered at speed flatter than a tournament billiard-table&#8221;, and he knew better than other testers, since he drove Imperials from coast-to-coast most, if not ALL years, and chose to own and drive them himself.<br />
Someone already mentioned the correct spelling of &#8220;cachet&#8221;- also, &#8220;largess&#8221; has nothing to do with &#8220;large&#8221;; Largess refers to generous or liberal giving, as in &#8220;charity&#8221;.<br />
Efficient design? Hummer?!? That is not design- that&#8217;s an ugly square truck that looks like it was welded [badly] together out of leftover appliance parts. Efficient design should include some small bow to aerodynamics- at least when pushing something with motor and wheels through the air.<br />
At least in the mid-fifties to mid/late sixties, Detroit offered DESIGN- some good, some not so good (witness the &#8216;57 and &#8216;59 Chevys). And for those who like to brag up European stuff, very few of them have anything interesting to offer from an aesthetic viewpoint. Mercedes obviously hasn&#8217;t even HAD a body-design department for many years; the last good-looking Mercedes was the late sixties to &#8216;71 two-seater, and before that, the early forties models. Virgil Exner&#8217;s offerings were sometimes outlandish, but NEVER boring nor un-interesting.<br />
Some of us LIKE fins and sparrow-strainer taillights- they, along with rectangular steering-wheels, push-button transmission-controls, free-standing headlights, and hidden door-compartments are loved by Imperial owners. I would rather drive my &#8216;63 Imperial with the cornered wheel and push-buttons for hours at a time than anything with a miniature round wheel and the conventional lever. And I&#8217;ve never had a problem with the push-buttons on ANY of the fifteen-plus &#8216;57 to &#8216;64 Imps I&#8217;ve owned and driven hundreds of thousands of miles.<br />
Yes, Imperial trailed Cadillac and Lincoln in sales (they did pass Lincoln once or twice, I believe), but they were also more exclusive and better cars- you can&#8217;t build 130,000 Cadillacs   Chevy assembly-line style and come out with the same sort of car as one that is turned out in much smaller quantity and with greater attention to detail. My fifties and early sixties Imps have filled, leaded seams and thicker metal, and more impressive details in countless other areas.<br />
The quality of interior fittings is also much more impressive than same-year Cadillacs (and most Lincolns after &#8216;69)<br />
Ugly coloured interiors? No car from any of the Big Three was exempt from the horrors of various shades of olive green in the late sixties and early seventies.<br />
I own a very nice 1967 Crown Coupe, the rear seat of which is easier to get in and out of (as well as having ridiculous amounts of leg-room) than most four-door lesser (and supposedly equal) cars; and it will still turn in 17 to 18 mpg on the road at a steady 65 (as did the &#8216;69 that I drove every day for fourteen years and over 300,000 miles on the same engine and transmission).<br />
As for 0 to 60 acceleration- the Imperial&#8217;s performance out of the blocks is quite impressive for a nearly two-and-three-quarter-ton luxury car, and it will cruise all day at most ANY speed you choose without feeling it- all while actually being FUN to drive on twisty roads, thanks to the afor-mentioned suspension. In a car of this type, designed to move the discriminating owner from place to place with efficiency and comfort, Imperials have always been MORE than up to the task- all without spilling the tea!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: DIYer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DIYer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very possible that my 1967 Imperial did not have the original motor - the title for the vehicle was very dubious.  The garage that had the title was located in the Cass Corridor of Detroit (a very bad area) and was called &quot;Dirty Red&#039;s Used Car Emporium&quot; - for a sign a it had a piece of old cardboard in the window that had &quot;Dirty Red&#039;s&quot; written in pencil. The fellow who sold me the car also had a second vehicle for sale - a Plymouth Fury painted orange with a black vinyl top for $800.  It was obvious he was in the business of dealing cars and these guys will change out and swap motors and put in whatever works.  I recall spraying out the carburetor and it only had 2 barrels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It is very possible that my 1967 Imperial did not have the original motor &#8211; the title for the vehicle was very dubious.  The garage that had the title was located in the Cass Corridor of Detroit (a very bad area) and was called &#8220;Dirty Red&#8217;s Used Car Emporium&#8221; &#8211; for a sign a it had a piece of old cardboard in the window that had &#8220;Dirty Red&#8217;s&#8221; written in pencil. The fellow who sold me the car also had a second vehicle for sale &#8211; a Plymouth Fury painted orange with a black vinyl top for $800.  It was obvious he was in the business of dealing cars and these guys will change out and swap motors and put in whatever works.  I recall spraying out the carburetor and it only had 2 barrels.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you feeling nostalgic there&#039;s a nice example of a 68 two door for sale locally (toronto) for a paltry $3,700 Canadian.  Go for it Mike.</description>
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		<title>By: pb35</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in a Chrysler family. My mom had a 62 Imperial coupe with the 413. Pushbutton trans that was always breaking. I remember my Dad ripped the horn off of the huge oval steering wheel one day. Good times. Later, my older brother had a 73 Imp that would overheat constantly; every body panel was dented. My first car was a 68 Belvedere. 

Thanks for your review, Mike. I enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I grew up in a Chrysler family. My mom had a 62 Imperial coupe with the 413. Pushbutton trans that was always breaking. I remember my Dad ripped the horn off of the huge oval steering wheel one day. Good times. Later, my older brother had a 73 Imp that would overheat constantly; every body panel was dented. My first car was a 68 Belvedere. </p>
<p>Thanks for your review, Mike. I enjoyed it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;1998S90 :
How many bodies will fit in that trunk… I mean, if you had to go to the mattresses.&lt;/i&gt;

+1. I flashed between visuals of Sonny &amp; Stringer Bell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>1998S90 :<br />
How many bodies will fit in that trunk… I mean, if you had to go to the mattresses.</i></p>
<p>+1. I flashed between visuals of Sonny &amp; Stringer Bell.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Johnster: &lt;em&gt;&quot;The ‘57 through ‘66 Imperials that had their own unique chassis must have had something going for them because for many years they were banned from competing in demolition derbies. I guess they were so well-built that they could were not significantly damaged by other cars, yet they could inflict a lot of damage to the competition.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;A fascinating bit of trivia and, evidently, quite true. Up thru 1966, while the rest of Chrysler&#039;s autos had been switched over to unibody construction, the Imperial got to retain its full perimeter frame with cross members forming a large &#039;x&#039; in the middle. I guess this was the primary reason they were nearly impossible to kill of in the derbys and why they were ultimately banned.

The only problem with those old cars and their stout body-on-frame construction is that with the lack of modern crumple zones that unibody construction affords, the shock of any impact is not absorbed but transmitted straight into the passenger compartment to the occupants. IOW, the cars would survive low speed impacts relatively unscathed, but the passengers might not.

On an unrelated note, as someone else mentioned Mr. Drysdale&#039;s LeBaron from &lt;em&gt;The Beverly Hillbillies&lt;/em&gt;, does anyone remember the car known as The Black Beauty that the Green Hornet was chauffered around in by a young Bruce Lee as Kato in the television series? Now &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; was a cool 1966 Imperial.</description>
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<blockquote>Johnster: <em>&#8220;The ‘57 through ‘66 Imperials that had their own unique chassis must have had something going for them because for many years they were banned from competing in demolition derbies. I guess they were so well-built that they could were not significantly damaged by other cars, yet they could inflict a lot of damage to the competition.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>A fascinating bit of trivia and, evidently, quite true. Up thru 1966, while the rest of Chrysler&#8217;s autos had been switched over to unibody construction, the Imperial got to retain its full perimeter frame with cross members forming a large &#8216;x&#8217; in the middle. I guess this was the primary reason they were nearly impossible to kill of in the derbys and why they were ultimately banned.</p>
<p>The only problem with those old cars and their stout body-on-frame construction is that with the lack of modern crumple zones that unibody construction affords, the shock of any impact is not absorbed but transmitted straight into the passenger compartment to the occupants. IOW, the cars would survive low speed impacts relatively unscathed, but the passengers might not.</p>
<p>On an unrelated note, as someone else mentioned Mr. Drysdale&#8217;s LeBaron from <em>The Beverly Hillbillies</em>, does anyone remember the car known as The Black Beauty that the Green Hornet was chauffered around in by a young Bruce Lee as Kato in the television series? Now <em>that</em> was a cool 1966 Imperial.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Leno has a video and test drive of a &#039;67 Imperial in his garage.
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=218789

The best cars my parents had back in the 60&#039;s were the Dodge Dart and Plymouth Belvedere convertible- and he used to be a Ford guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Jay Leno has a video and test drive of a &#8216;67 Imperial in his garage.<br />
<a href="http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=218789" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=218789</a></p>
<p>The best cars my parents had back in the 60&#8217;s were the Dodge Dart and Plymouth Belvedere convertible- and he used to be a Ford guy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: f1guyus</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see someone mention the 59 Imperial. Great car once you got over the sheer size of the thing. 

One of my buddies had one and due to a late night encounter with the Highway Patrol his DL was suspended, shredded and incinerated. Result being I spent a lot of time behind the wheel of this tank. 

Used to make it from San Jose to where I lived in the Central Valley going through two towns and one small city in about 20 minutes more than the same trip takes me now 100% on freeways. 

Amazing how much ground you can cover at 110mph or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Glad to see someone mention the 59 Imperial. Great car once you got over the sheer size of the thing. </p>
<p>One of my buddies had one and due to a late night encounter with the Highway Patrol his DL was suspended, shredded and incinerated. Result being I spent a lot of time behind the wheel of this tank. </p>
<p>Used to make it from San Jose to where I lived in the Central Valley going through two towns and one small city in about 20 minutes more than the same trip takes me now 100% on freeways. </p>
<p>Amazing how much ground you can cover at 110mph or so.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mike66Chryslers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My first car was a 1967 Imperial Lebaron .... It had a 383 2 barrel&lt;/i&gt;

If that is true, then it was NOT the original drivetrain.  ALL Imperials at that time came with a 440 4-bbl, and Chrysler never put a 2-bbl intake manifold on the 440 either.*

* I think there were some earlier 413 and 383 &quot;RB&quot; engines that came with a 2-bbl carb.  Those rare intakes are the only ones available that would allow one to mount a 2-bbl onto a 440.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>My first car was a 1967 Imperial Lebaron &#8230;. It had a 383 2 barrel</i></p>
<p>If that is true, then it was NOT the original drivetrain.  ALL Imperials at that time came with a 440 4-bbl, and Chrysler never put a 2-bbl intake manifold on the 440 either.*</p>
<p>* I think there were some earlier 413 and 383 &#8220;RB&#8221; engines that came with a 2-bbl carb.  Those rare intakes are the only ones available that would allow one to mount a 2-bbl onto a 440.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 1998S90</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many bodies will fit in that trunk... I mean, if you had to go to the mattresses.</description>
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		<title>By: DIYer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first car was a 1967 Imperial Lebaron which I bought used for $600 in 1973.  It was black with a black vinyl top, and it had an dark olive green leather interior.  It had a 383 2 barrel and got about 10 mpg.  The car looked good, but I discovered it had lots of rust which had been filled with bondo and painted, and the rear floorboards were also rusted through and water would come up when it rained. The rear wheel wells had skirt covers which were fastened with hooked rods that held them in place. The transmission went out on it in 1975 and the vehicle went to the junkyard. I currently have a 1967 Cadillac Eldorado in good condition, and it is superior to the Imperial in ride quality and driveability, but it is not as big nor does it have 4 doors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My first car was a 1967 Imperial Lebaron which I bought used for $600 in 1973.  It was black with a black vinyl top, and it had an dark olive green leather interior.  It had a 383 2 barrel and got about 10 mpg.  The car looked good, but I discovered it had lots of rust which had been filled with bondo and painted, and the rear floorboards were also rusted through and water would come up when it rained. The rear wheel wells had skirt covers which were fastened with hooked rods that held them in place. The transmission went out on it in 1975 and the vehicle went to the junkyard. I currently have a 1967 Cadillac Eldorado in good condition, and it is superior to the Imperial in ride quality and driveability, but it is not as big nor does it have 4 doors.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;57 through &#039;66 Imperials that had their own unique chassis must have had something going for them because for many years they were banned from competing in demolition derbies.  I guess they were so well-built that they could were not significantly damaged by other cars, yet they could inflict a lot of damage to the competition.  

Maybe this is indicative of nothing in particular, but I don&#039;t recall ever hearing of any other makes of cars being banned.</description>
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<p>Maybe this is indicative of nothing in particular, but I don&#8217;t recall ever hearing of any other makes of cars being banned.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: menno</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a 1967 Chrysler Newport Custom bought for $700, in 1981.  The 1965-1968 Chryslers, particularly, seemed to last forever even up here in northern Michigan with the salted roads (unlike the 1957 Chrysler products which evaporated before the car payments had finished - i.e. 24 months).  

The car (similar to the 4 door sedan Imperial above) had a 383 and was HUGE, comfortable, but could only get about 16 mpg (maybe 13 in town, no more than 18 on the highway at 55mph).  

It had so much character, we came to call it &quot;Martha&quot;.  Traded it off in 1982, more fool me, and in fact still saw it driving around the area as late as 5-6 years ago!  In daily use!  

Should have kept it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had a 1967 Chrysler Newport Custom bought for $700, in 1981.  The 1965-1968 Chryslers, particularly, seemed to last forever even up here in northern Michigan with the salted roads (unlike the 1957 Chrysler products which evaporated before the car payments had finished &#8211; i.e. 24 months).  </p>
<p>The car (similar to the 4 door sedan Imperial above) had a 383 and was HUGE, comfortable, but could only get about 16 mpg (maybe 13 in town, no more than 18 on the highway at 55mph).  </p>
<p>It had so much character, we came to call it &#8220;Martha&#8221;.  Traded it off in 1982, more fool me, and in fact still saw it driving around the area as late as 5-6 years ago!  In daily use!  </p>
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		<title>By: Gardiner Westbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gardiner Westbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1955 Imperial is my favorite. It was based on  three ceremonial Virgil Exner styled 1952 Chrysler Imperial Parade Phaetons. Chrysler styling went nuts after that with quad headlights and mile-high fins.

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		<title>By: tced2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the privilege of driving a 1967 Imperial Sedan that belonged to my grandfather.  I also drove GM mid and luxury cars of that era (Buick/Olds/Caddy).  My recollection was that the Imperial handled better than the GM cars of the era.

I also remember the interior was very much prior to the &quot;plastic&quot; era.  Real metal door pulls.  A metal door covered with real wood veneer that would close over the radio.  A floor-mounted pushbutton that could be used to tune the radio.  A full set of gauges with sort of a master-idiot-light that would warn you if any gauge was not normal.

Even though it was diminished by previous Imperial standards - still a special large car.  It was Haze Green Metallic with a green cloth interior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had the privilege of driving a 1967 Imperial Sedan that belonged to my grandfather.  I also drove GM mid and luxury cars of that era (Buick/Olds/Caddy).  My recollection was that the Imperial handled better than the GM cars of the era.</p>
<p>I also remember the interior was very much prior to the &#8220;plastic&#8221; era.  Real metal door pulls.  A metal door covered with real wood veneer that would close over the radio.  A floor-mounted pushbutton that could be used to tune the radio.  A full set of gauges with sort of a master-idiot-light that would warn you if any gauge was not normal.</p>
<p>Even though it was diminished by previous Imperial standards &#8211; still a special large car.  It was Haze Green Metallic with a green cloth interior.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geeber</title>
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		<dc:creator>geeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1960s Mopars had uneven build quality. It got better after 1962, but then began sliding again after 1965. 

The build quality of the full-size cars really fell off with the 1969 fuselage models. 

Chrysler&#039;s most consistent products (quality wise) in the 1960s were the Valiant and Dart. 

And the Imperial was a depreciation queen in the 1960s. Chrysler was charging Cadillac prices for the Imperial, but the public didn&#039;t view it as being equal to a Cadillac...or even a Lincoln Continental.

A 1960s Imperial was a better value as a used car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1960s Mopars had uneven build quality. It got better after 1962, but then began sliding again after 1965. </p>
<p>The build quality of the full-size cars really fell off with the 1969 fuselage models. </p>
<p>Chrysler&#8217;s most consistent products (quality wise) in the 1960s were the Valiant and Dart. </p>
<p>And the Imperial was a depreciation queen in the 1960s. Chrysler was charging Cadillac prices for the Imperial, but the public didn&#8217;t view it as being equal to a Cadillac&#8230;or even a Lincoln Continental.</p>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;David Holzman: &lt;em&gt;&quot;The only thing that I think you got wrong had to do with quality: Chrysler Corp in those days was far more reliable than GM or Ford,&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not exactly. While Mopar drivetrains were bullet-proof in comparison, the body integrity wasn&#039;t nearly as good and had an alarming tendancy to deteriorate much faster than the competition, particularly in the rust-belt.</description>
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<blockquote>David Holzman: <em>&#8220;The only thing that I think you got wrong had to do with quality: Chrysler Corp in those days was far more reliable than GM or Ford,&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Not exactly. While Mopar drivetrains were bullet-proof in comparison, the body integrity wasn&#8217;t nearly as good and had an alarming tendancy to deteriorate much faster than the competition, particularly in the rust-belt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gottleib</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cars of the 50&#039;s and for most of the 60&#039;s really displayed a lot of differentiation between makes and their models.   Few cars actually shared engine blocks as they began doing in the 70&#039;s and even more so now.  The Imperials, Continentals and Cadillacs really did have quite individual styling as well as extras that were rarely found on any other makes.  Most of them had automatic headlight dimmers, automatic climate control,am/fm radios with stereo and cruise control which didn&#039;t really get to be popular options until the 70&#039;s.  Being larger, heavier cars than their corporate siblings these top of line cars would provide a much more comfortable ride for their occupants.  Most all of the things these cars had are now common among all cars with the possible exception of the smooth ride.  My favorite was the 61-65 Continentals. Very comfortable and very stylish.</description>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even before the Imperial lost its own unique chassis beginning with the 1967 model year, most of the people I knew just considered it to be a fancy and very expensive Chrysler that wasn&#039;t worth the extra money.  Although it had its own unique sheet metal, it still had a close family resemblance to the cheaper Chrysler New Yorkers and Newports with which it shared showroom space.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike66Chryslers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike66Chryslers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Toggle switches complemented chrome plated wheels to lend an air of sophistication to someone used to the click-n-crunch buttons of a Chrysler LeBaron.&lt;/i&gt;

Ironically, LeBaron started out as a model of Imperial.  The one pictured is a Sedan, however, not a LeBaron.  It&#039;s shameful that the Imperial and LeBaron (and Chrysler New Yorker, for that matter) names all later wound-up on K-car variants.  

@fortitude: The Time article that you pointed to is for a 1971 Imperial.  Chrysler products didn&#039;t adopt the &quot;fuselage&quot; styling til 1969, which is also when quality started to suffer.  The &#039;67 looks much better, in my unabashedly biased opinion.  Actually I prefer the pre-67 Imps even more.

Regarding quality of Chrysler in the mid-60s, I think some commenters have it confused with Chrysler quality in the mid 1950&#039;s or the 1970&#039;s.  Imperials were advertised as &quot;the world&#039;s most carefully built car&quot;.  The lower half of the body was also galvanized to resist corrosion.

@Robert Schwartz: After Imperial went unibody in &#039;67, they were based on the Chrysler C-body fullsize platform.  You could put all your hitmen in the back seat and pile all the bodies in the trunk of an Imperial.  The Cadillac Eldorado was strictly a 2-door coupe based on the Oldsmobile Toronado.  Those were considered &quot;personal luxury cars&quot;, along with the Thunderbird, Riviera and Avanti to name a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Toggle switches complemented chrome plated wheels to lend an air of sophistication to someone used to the click-n-crunch buttons of a Chrysler LeBaron.</i></p>
<p>Ironically, LeBaron started out as a model of Imperial.  The one pictured is a Sedan, however, not a LeBaron.  It&#8217;s shameful that the Imperial and LeBaron (and Chrysler New Yorker, for that matter) names all later wound-up on K-car variants.  </p>
<p>@fortitude: The Time article that you pointed to is for a 1971 Imperial.  Chrysler products didn&#8217;t adopt the &#8220;fuselage&#8221; styling til 1969, which is also when quality started to suffer.  The &#8216;67 looks much better, in my unabashedly biased opinion.  Actually I prefer the pre-67 Imps even more.</p>
<p>Regarding quality of Chrysler in the mid-60s, I think some commenters have it confused with Chrysler quality in the mid 1950&#8217;s or the 1970&#8217;s.  Imperials were advertised as &#8220;the world&#8217;s most carefully built car&#8221;.  The lower half of the body was also galvanized to resist corrosion.</p>
<p>@Robert Schwartz: After Imperial went unibody in &#8216;67, they were based on the Chrysler C-body fullsize platform.  You could put all your hitmen in the back seat and pile all the bodies in the trunk of an Imperial.  The Cadillac Eldorado was strictly a 2-door coupe based on the Oldsmobile Toronado.  Those were considered &#8220;personal luxury cars&#8221;, along with the Thunderbird, Riviera and Avanti to name a few.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: The_Imperialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Imperialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Imperialist is pleased! I remember watching &quot;The Beverly Hillbillies&quot; as a kid mostly to get a glimpse of Mr. Drysdale&#039;s LeBaron (remember when car companies sponsored TV programs and EVERY car on screen -- even those &quot;extras&quot; parked along the street -- came from that manufacturer? In my opinion, the 1967-1968 Imperials were the last truly handsome models, a last gasp of elegance before 1969&#039;s ungainly fuselage look. My own prom queen would be a 1961 LeBaron, with its stainless steel roof edges and sail panel crest made with real gold -- which, BTW, obligated Chrysler to pay a federal excise tax on jewelry on every 1961 Imperial sold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Imperialist is pleased! I remember watching &#8220;The Beverly Hillbillies&#8221; as a kid mostly to get a glimpse of Mr. Drysdale&#8217;s LeBaron (remember when car companies sponsored TV programs and EVERY car on screen &#8212; even those &#8220;extras&#8221; parked along the street &#8212; came from that manufacturer? In my opinion, the 1967-1968 Imperials were the last truly handsome models, a last gasp of elegance before 1969&#8217;s ungainly fuselage look. My own prom queen would be a 1961 LeBaron, with its stainless steel roof edges and sail panel crest made with real gold &#8212; which, BTW, obligated Chrysler to pay a federal excise tax on jewelry on every 1961 Imperial sold!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unibody?!?!?!  A 1967 barge?!?!?!</description>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only did Chrysler try to chase Cadillac and Lincoln, when they canned Virgil Exner (who styled the late-50s Chryslers) in &#039;61, they hired Elwood P. Engle from Ford, who&#039;d led the design of the &#039;61 Lincoln Continental. Starting in &#039;64, the Imperial started looking an awful lot like the Continental of three years earlier, which would become a Chrysler trend -- looking like a couple-year-old Ford or GM product.</description>
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		<title>By: willbodine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chrysler never quite knew what to do about the Imperial. Like Ford, they were trying to compete with the GM 5 in every price segment in the 50s. So we had Ford vs Chevy vs Plymouth, Mercury vs Pontiac vs Dodge, Olds vs Edsel vs Desoto (boy, talk about an unnecessary niche!) Buick vs Lincoln vs Chrysler, and Cadillac vs Continental vs Imperial. With 50 - 60% market share, a little overlap wasn&#039;t a huge problem. Fast forward to today and we see how GMs 8 brands are way too many with a 20% share.
But I thought the 67 Imperial was seriously cool. The one pictured looks like an entry level Crown (a post sedan, yet!) but they drove mighty sweet with that 440. Incidentally, the Imperial had been body-on-frame through the 66 model year. For 67 they went unibody like the rest of the Mopar lineup. Thanks to a front sub-frame and heavily rubberized rear suspension, they were as quiet as the older ones. But apart from 57, they rarely sold more than 20K a year. (Cadillac usually sold over 100K / year.) I&#039;m amazed that Imperial lasted as long as it did.</description>
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But I thought the 67 Imperial was seriously cool. The one pictured looks like an entry level Crown (a post sedan, yet!) but they drove mighty sweet with that 440. Incidentally, the Imperial had been body-on-frame through the 66 model year. For 67 they went unibody like the rest of the Mopar lineup. Thanks to a front sub-frame and heavily rubberized rear suspension, they were as quiet as the older ones. But apart from 57, they rarely sold more than 20K a year. (Cadillac usually sold over 100K / year.) I&#8217;m amazed that Imperial lasted as long as it did.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dr Lemming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This design was effectively Imperial&#039;s last stand.  For 1967 Imperial lost its unique platform but still had distinct sheetmetal.  Even though the Imperial was nicely appointed, sales still didn&#039;t crawl out of the cellar.  So with the next restyling in 1969, Imperial was forced to share a goodly portion of Chrysler sheetmetal . . . and soon became &quot;Imperial by Chrysler.&quot;  And then disappeared with the first oil crisis of the mid-1970s.

Imperials had their moments design-wise, but all in all Chrysler overreached by trying to compete directly against Cadillac and Lincoln.  They would have been much better off trying something different, e.g., the T-Bird of that era handily outsold the Imperial despite its then-premium price.

Ford learned a similar lesson with the Edsel.  Despite spending an extraordinary amount of money to launch what was supposed to be a full-line brand, the new four-seater T-Bird actually gave the Edsel a run for its money sales-wise in 1958-59.

The T-Bird was one of the first post-war American cars to show the potential of pioneering new market niches rather than playing follow the leader.  Alas, Chrysler was so consumed with GM envy that it didn&#039;t attempt to pioneer new markets of its own until the 1980s, when the minivan was launched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This design was effectively Imperial&#8217;s last stand.  For 1967 Imperial lost its unique platform but still had distinct sheetmetal.  Even though the Imperial was nicely appointed, sales still didn&#8217;t crawl out of the cellar.  So with the next restyling in 1969, Imperial was forced to share a goodly portion of Chrysler sheetmetal . . . and soon became &#8220;Imperial by Chrysler.&#8221;  And then disappeared with the first oil crisis of the mid-1970s.</p>
<p>Imperials had their moments design-wise, but all in all Chrysler overreached by trying to compete directly against Cadillac and Lincoln.  They would have been much better off trying something different, e.g., the T-Bird of that era handily outsold the Imperial despite its then-premium price.</p>
<p>Ford learned a similar lesson with the Edsel.  Despite spending an extraordinary amount of money to launch what was supposed to be a full-line brand, the new four-seater T-Bird actually gave the Edsel a run for its money sales-wise in 1958-59.</p>
<p>The T-Bird was one of the first post-war American cars to show the potential of pioneering new market niches rather than playing follow the leader.  Alas, Chrysler was so consumed with GM envy that it didn&#8217;t attempt to pioneer new markets of its own until the 1980s, when the minivan was launched.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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