i think we in alberta are stupid in that our economy is so good we’re super-willing to pay uber-high prices for cars compared to americans. these dealers have no incentive to lower prices. if we all held back for a couple of months we’d probably see some serious movement in pricing.

and seeing so many kids driving $50k sti’s, people in all sorts of bmw’s, and king ranches is evidence that we’re not cheap!

anyway, that’s probably why we’re seeing dealers able to spend multi-millions of dollars on new facilities.

As a socialist myself, I don’t see this as a bad thing.

You’re fortunate. Most hardcore socialists have only been provided the expertise to post on TTAOC : The Truth About Ox Carts.

But lest I forget the Trabant… ;-)

We also have a whole hell of a lot of uranium and fresh water.

Jim Pattison Chrysler in Surrey BC cost 12 million…Click

Dealer groups are in the real estate business through automotive dealerships…the dealership pays for the real estate investment…does the dealer group care which manufacturer or franchise will pay for the real estate investment…does the manufacturer care which dealer group will give them new and compelling brick and mortar.

One seeks a real estate investment the other a glass palace…its a good fit.

Yup, Chrysler is in second spot in Canada. One thing is for sure, if Chrysler croaks altogether, someone is going to get an enormous boost. Interesting to see who rushes in to fill the void.

Have to admire Mr Held’s pluck.

msowers1 Says:
‘Also, the price and model mix is less because Canadians have less income and are notoriously cheap’

I am not cheap, just notoriously easy

This is why Chrysler is almost certainly the first of the Detroit 3 to go bankrupt or out of business. In fact, GM and Ford might survive for decades or longer. Chrysler is royally screwed, however.

Thats not going to happen.
Could they split up nto 2 entities the Canadian & US company incase of a Chpt 7 or 11 , the north of 49th parallel company still exists.
20 yrs ago the Texaco got into a real F ing mess by kyboshing the take over of Getty oil & Pennz oil.
Texaco ended up the big loser. Tex had to sell her Canadian subsidiary to Esso. Soon after there were no more Texaco exists north of the 49th parallel.

Chryslerbus could exists as a small operation in the republc of Canuckstan, our gov no doubt will keep giving more mulla until Chryslerbus pukes.

Means the US sales are only just over 5 times Canadian sales, not 10 times.

Or, to put it another way, if Chrysler’s US sales drop by 20% (probably a low figure), Canadian sales would have to increase by over 100% to make up for it.

USA 117,500
Canada 22,000.

Means the US sales are only just over 5 times Canadian sales, not 10 times.

So Canada is a real bright spot for the Hellish Dog. Maybe that’s why the Windsor minivan plant is still rolling, because I see lots of them, and its styling is growing on me. Don’t mind it at all. YMMV.

Is interesting Jimmy as we refer to Mr. Pattison here. Is bulding a big chry store.
He had changed a Chebby dealer to Suzuki, used to be called a Courtesy ChebbyOlds.
When they closed the Chebby I knew a guy bought a rag top Vette for really below costs, as he had tried earlier the year to pick up one in Lala land. The deal was almost completed, the dealer found out the General kyboshed it. As they dont want Can dealers to get short changed.

DOnt think the Oel Sand will crash & burn real soon, unless oel hit 50 bucks a barrel. Hell freezes over much sooner than that.

Yes Canadians(northern territory)buy/lease smaller (less lucrative) vehicles gas is $5.00 a US gallon not $ 4.00 like the US (southern territory).

Also, the price and model mix is less because Canadians have less income and are notoriously cheap . How profitable are vehicles Canadians buy in the first place? Not very.

Ask any OEM in the sales department and they will tell you they consider Canada just another sales region called the “northern territory”

Pattison in BC has just completed a huge Chrysler dealership, the first Chrysler store for the Pattison Group.

Chrysler in Canada for the past several months is comparable to the arrival of a Chinese manufacturer. Its as if Reid Bigland asked a simple question “If the Chinese were to sell vehicles in Canada what would they do?”

After all the talk, the folks in Canada that want a “serious deal” go to a Chrysler store.

Imagine if Jim Press would ask the same question in the US?

Given the strong cash position of Oel sand there,
Mr. Hold can sell anything that can make it back to Fort McLeod.

Saldy Canada per se ain’t going to buoyed up the SS Titanic Chryslerbus.
Canada is only 10% of US of A didnt we forget, looks like another Pyrrhic victory.
Is like a when a big ship is going down u better be few hundred yards away or else u get sucked in by the Vortex.

Fine. My 2nd car was a 1995 Dodge Neon and I hated it. But I’ve owned 3 more cars since then and it’s all water under the bridge now.

No, but I’ve been there.

Don’t get me wrong, it was a very even-handed approach and I am very happy to seethe perspective (delusions?) of the dealer. He strikes me to be the same as some .com people I’ve worked with.

Let me tell you all, auto sales are roaring in Edmonton. The oil patch fueled growth in this city is off the charts.

I interviewed once for a position at a dealer that Scott Held was running…. he was quite high on the opportunity that was forthcoming at Sherwood Chrysler.

You live in Edmonton Samir?