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		<title>By: capeplates</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-640541</link>
		<dc:creator>capeplates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They tried a similar scheme in the Uk with dummy cut out police cars place at strategic, highly visible  points on motorways. They didn&#039;t succeed - the dummies were stolen</description>
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		<title>By: johnny ro</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do this all over Mass but they use live cops as dummies, getting paid overtime plus on off duty details.  Donuts, cell phone, newspaper, the whole works, including newspaper over tipped back face while napping. 

Or, cop swaaying back and forth on feet peering down into construction site,blabbing with workers.

In Mass, people do not seem to care about taxes.</description>
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<p>Or, cop swaaying back and forth on feet peering down into construction site,blabbing with workers.</p>
<p>In Mass, people do not seem to care about taxes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Scorched Earth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scorched Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZoomZoom: &lt;em&gt;Robert, I’m with you 100%. I think this may even be illegal/unconstitutional. The cops should do the policing.&lt;/em&gt;

What part of the constitution does this not uphold?  Or what law?

I agree with all the points Dynamic88 laid out...it&#039;s a fairly clever program for understaffed/over-cruiser-ed precints.  The only substantial worry here is that the legitimacy of roadside cruisers will fade, but as long as there is a significant concentration of manned roadside cruisers that will NOT happen.</description>
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<p>What part of the constitution does this not uphold?  Or what law?</p>
<p>I agree with all the points Dynamic88 laid out&#8230;it&#8217;s a fairly clever program for understaffed/over-cruiser-ed precints.  The only substantial worry here is that the legitimacy of roadside cruisers will fade, but as long as there is a significant concentration of manned roadside cruisers that will NOT happen.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZoomZoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZoomZoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;8rings : 

Driving down 460 in VA a few years ago I pass a Trooper in the median and notice that he is slumped over the steering wheel. After debating with my conscience, I turn around, stop, walk up to the car and knock on the window, thinking that he is having a medical problem I am about to call 911, then I realize it is a dummy….
At least they could sit them upright!!&lt;/em&gt;

Also a point to make.  What if, by your good Samaritanism, you were to be struck and killed by another motorist, or carjacked, or shot at?  After all, who knows the neighborhood?

Could your wife sue the britches off of the city or county?  In this case, I would hope she&#039;d at least try to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>8rings : </p>
<p>Driving down 460 in VA a few years ago I pass a Trooper in the median and notice that he is slumped over the steering wheel. After debating with my conscience, I turn around, stop, walk up to the car and knock on the window, thinking that he is having a medical problem I am about to call 911, then I realize it is a dummy….<br />
At least they could sit them upright!!</em></p>
<p>Also a point to make.  What if, by your good Samaritanism, you were to be struck and killed by another motorist, or carjacked, or shot at?  After all, who knows the neighborhood?</p>
<p>Could your wife sue the britches off of the city or county?  In this case, I would hope she&#8217;d at least try to&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 8rings</title>
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		<dc:creator>8rings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Driving down 460 in VA a few years ago I pass a Trooper in the median and notice that he is slumped over the steering wheel.  After debating with my conscience, I turn around, stop, walk up to the car and knock on the window, thinking that he is having a medical problem I am about to call 911, then I realize it is a dummy....
At least they could sit them upright!!</description>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the thing Dynamic.

We will never know the cost. How many citizens lose a bit of respect for the law? What degree of their earnestness is lost among the populace? Who now thinks the ends justifies the means?

I think they cross the line when they add the dummy. A patrol car is a reminder, the dummy is a trick. When you have to fool a pedophile to catch him red handed, we understand that. When you want to enforce traffic laws, all you have to do is get out there and do it. The trickery is not necessary, only expedient (at least until someone wrecks while staring at the strange patrolman).

Wouldn&#039;t it be better that law abiding folks, whose only likely interaction with the police will be when they hear one testify in court, don&#039;t start to think the cops are tricksters and rogues? We only admire the clever detectives in fictional stories because the author first makes us believe in their moral good standing. The traffic dummy peels away that shiny veneer of white knight with a badge.

The costs are beyond any accounting, but our government seems to have once again lost the ideal that there are things so important that they can&#039;t be described on a spreadsheet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Here is the thing Dynamic.</p>
<p>We will never know the cost. How many citizens lose a bit of respect for the law? What degree of their earnestness is lost among the populace? Who now thinks the ends justifies the means?</p>
<p>I think they cross the line when they add the dummy. A patrol car is a reminder, the dummy is a trick. When you have to fool a pedophile to catch him red handed, we understand that. When you want to enforce traffic laws, all you have to do is get out there and do it. The trickery is not necessary, only expedient (at least until someone wrecks while staring at the strange patrolman).</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be better that law abiding folks, whose only likely interaction with the police will be when they hear one testify in court, don&#8217;t start to think the cops are tricksters and rogues? We only admire the clever detectives in fictional stories because the author first makes us believe in their moral good standing. The traffic dummy peels away that shiny veneer of white knight with a badge.</p>
<p>The costs are beyond any accounting, but our government seems to have once again lost the ideal that there are things so important that they can&#8217;t be described on a spreadsheet.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They had this down in California too.  After a while, I never even slowed down.  This habit stuck with me so much that even when I&#039;m speeding and I see a cruiser I don&#039;t slow down.  If he wants me, he&#039;ll have to catch me.</description>
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		<title>By: brownie</title>
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		<dc:creator>brownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, they&#039;ve been doing this for years in Rhode Island on the main drag into Newport.  The car never even moves.  But you still instinctively slow down, or are forced to by other slowing drivers, no matter how many times you see it.  It&#039;s very effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Please, they&#8217;ve been doing this for years in Rhode Island on the main drag into Newport.  The car never even moves.  But you still instinctively slow down, or are forced to by other slowing drivers, no matter how many times you see it.  It&#8217;s very effective.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: charleywhiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>charleywhiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago, circa 1960s, this was a common practice of the CHP. They used old cruisers and even plywood cutouts painted to look somewhat like cruisers and planted them around bends in the road on the downhill side in the mountains. Highway 50 from Lake Tahoe to Folsom had had a bunch of them.</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the central California town I lived in this was a regular oocurance.  I have driven by this set up numerous times.  I even got to the point where I could tell, coming up from behind if it was the sex toy cop or a real one.

One day, I heard a story (unsubstantiated - no proof) involving the blow-up and the car that went something like...there was a woman who was being pursued, on foot, by a man.  She saw the car and ran to it for protection/safety only to find the rubber Toots Lagoon in the driver&#039;s seat.

Real or not, imagine the chagrin.</description>
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<p>One day, I heard a story (unsubstantiated &#8211; no proof) involving the blow-up and the car that went something like&#8230;there was a woman who was being pursued, on foot, by a man.  She saw the car and ran to it for protection/safety only to find the rubber Toots Lagoon in the driver&#8217;s seat.</p>
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		<title>By: 1169hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>1169hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, one day a 16 year old stole a cruiser from the side of the highway and took it for a joyride.  What happens when criminals start doing that.&quot;
 
Um, gee. I don&#039;t know. I guess the 16 year old criminal gets to test drive a much slower than expected Ford Crown Vic.  Is roadside theft of patrol cars a big problem in Indiana?  

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<p>Um, gee. I don&#8217;t know. I guess the 16 year old criminal gets to test drive a much slower than expected Ford Crown Vic.  Is roadside theft of patrol cars a big problem in Indiana?  </p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; Well, I can tell you that on a highway near me they often position empty cop cars. Well, one day a 16 year old stole a cruiser from the side of the highway and took it for a joyride. What happens when criminals start doing that? &lt;/b&gt; 

They quit leaving the keys in the empty cruiser ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><b> Well, I can tell you that on a highway near me they often position empty cop cars. Well, one day a 16 year old stole a cruiser from the side of the highway and took it for a joyride. What happens when criminals start doing that? </b> </p>
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		<title>By: Sanman111</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanman111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can tell you that on a highway near me they often position empty cop cars. Well, one day a 16 year old stole a cruiser from the side of the highway and took it for a joyride. What happens when criminals start doing that?</description>
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		<title>By: Jerome10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They put this on the indiana toll road just east of gary in a construction zone a few years back.

Fooled the first time, but I always look as I go past (usually dirty-like).  And saw it was a freakin dummy!

Needless to say it didn&#039;t take long for people to figure that one out.

But what else would you expect from Indiana State Patrol?  Those guys are the worst I&#039;ve EVER experienced.  Patrol that 55 with an iron fist, and a ton of them.

How come the decoy doesn&#039;t have a donut?</description>
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<p>Fooled the first time, but I always look as I go past (usually dirty-like).  And saw it was a freakin dummy!</p>
<p>Needless to say it didn&#8217;t take long for people to figure that one out.</p>
<p>But what else would you expect from Indiana State Patrol?  Those guys are the worst I&#8217;ve EVER experienced.  Patrol that 55 with an iron fist, and a ton of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Student.Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Student.Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this in Illinois around 6 years ago.  The interesting thing is the next a box of donuts was put on the roof (with rocks in it to hold it down).  That was awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I saw this in Illinois around 6 years ago.  The interesting thing is the next a box of donuts was put on the roof (with rocks in it to hold it down).  That was awesome.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landcrusher

&lt;b&gt; The cost is not worth the benefit. &lt;/b&gt; 

How do we know this?  What are the numbers?   I immagine the cost is negligable.  Couple gallons of gas to move the car around.    

We probably aren&#039;t going to get hard data on the number of speeders who&#039;ve slowed down.   Probably we&#039;ll end up with the neighborhood watch group givinig general impressions.   It&#039;s hard to say whether the impressions are accurate or inaccurate.
People  will of course assume accuracy or inaccuracy, depending on their POV. 

Of course if the citizen radar gunners program gets going (the only part of this that I&#039;m against) then hard numbers may be obtainable.   


For anyone

It appears the real objection here is &quot;trickery&quot;.    When the cops trick a scumbag paedophile into thinking he&#039;s meeting a 13 year old girl for sex,  no one objects to the &quot;trickery&quot;.   Trick a motorist into behaving responsibly in a residential area, for all of 90 seconds, and suddenly we&#039;re living in a (dummy) police state.</description>
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<p><b> The cost is not worth the benefit. </b> </p>
<p>How do we know this?  What are the numbers?   I immagine the cost is negligable.  Couple gallons of gas to move the car around.    </p>
<p>We probably aren&#8217;t going to get hard data on the number of speeders who&#8217;ve slowed down.   Probably we&#8217;ll end up with the neighborhood watch group givinig general impressions.   It&#8217;s hard to say whether the impressions are accurate or inaccurate.<br />
People  will of course assume accuracy or inaccuracy, depending on their POV. </p>
<p>Of course if the citizen radar gunners program gets going (the only part of this that I&#8217;m against) then hard numbers may be obtainable.   </p>
<p>For anyone</p>
<p>It appears the real objection here is &#8220;trickery&#8221;.    When the cops trick a scumbag paedophile into thinking he&#8217;s meeting a 13 year old girl for sex,  no one objects to the &#8220;trickery&#8221;.   Trick a motorist into behaving responsibly in a residential area, for all of 90 seconds, and suddenly we&#8217;re living in a (dummy) police state.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 1169hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>1169hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this &quot;tactic&quot; used once in Florida (FHP) on I-95.  It&#039;s somewhat insulting to an observant motorists intelligence. 
With that said, it probably had the desired effect by temporarily slowing people down in that area, which was a construction zone!  That&#039;s the point of it....right. 

DT</description>
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With that said, it probably had the desired effect by temporarily slowing people down in that area, which was a construction zone!  That&#8217;s the point of it&#8230;.right. </p>
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		<title>By: whatdoiknow1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a frequent driver on I-95 up aqnd down the east coast I can tell you that parking an empty cruiser in median of the interstate is not an uncommon pratice in the states of NC, Va, and Md.

Somehow I have ZERO problem with this pratice. It is rather effective and cost efficient. It is simply a reminder that the LAW is out there keeping an eye on what the drivers are doing on the the road. It does cause everyone to slow down but happy part of it is no gets a ticket! 

I have to say I respect this practice, it is simple and fair. It is much better than HIDDEN COPS and speed traps that are strictly useful for revenue generation. The empty cruiser or dummy equiped cruiser does NOT dash out into traffic to case a speeder endangering me and my family. It does not write tickets that cost us a great deal of money and higher insurance. It DOES encourage public safety and get the point across to motorist with the least intrusive (PASSIVE)method.</description>
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<p>Somehow I have ZERO problem with this pratice. It is rather effective and cost efficient. It is simply a reminder that the LAW is out there keeping an eye on what the drivers are doing on the the road. It does cause everyone to slow down but happy part of it is no gets a ticket! </p>
<p>I have to say I respect this practice, it is simple and fair. It is much better than HIDDEN COPS and speed traps that are strictly useful for revenue generation. The empty cruiser or dummy equiped cruiser does NOT dash out into traffic to case a speeder endangering me and my family. It does not write tickets that cost us a great deal of money and higher insurance. It DOES encourage public safety and get the point across to motorist with the least intrusive (PASSIVE)method.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SpottyB</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-637261</link>
		<dc:creator>SpottyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading how Kuhre positions the dummy cop in his cruiser was just giving me &quot;Airplane&quot; flashbacks... LOL ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-637222</link>
		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for a company that had a security car, but no security guard. The car was in fact used for inter office mail (this greatly helped the illusion, because the car moved).

Customers came to the office for training courses, and after a few days many would figure out the trick. Many would also start to question what kind of company would do that sort of thing. In the case of the company I was working for, it was a REALLY bad idea because as I soon found out, the guy I was working for was a cheat. The customers often started figuring it out before they even installed the system.

How bad of a cheat? The customers were car dealers, and most of them would happily call the guy all sorts of bad names. You guys call the car dealers a bunch of cheats and liars, well, they all thought this guy was over the top.

So ya, I think RF is correct. The police should be careful about being this clever. It&#039;s one thing to use trickery to catch a felon, it&#039;s another thing to use trickery like this. This sort of thing encourages deceitful behavior by taking the taboo away. The cost is not worth the benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I worked for a company that had a security car, but no security guard. The car was in fact used for inter office mail (this greatly helped the illusion, because the car moved).</p>
<p>Customers came to the office for training courses, and after a few days many would figure out the trick. Many would also start to question what kind of company would do that sort of thing. In the case of the company I was working for, it was a REALLY bad idea because as I soon found out, the guy I was working for was a cheat. The customers often started figuring it out before they even installed the system.</p>
<p>How bad of a cheat? The customers were car dealers, and most of them would happily call the guy all sorts of bad names. You guys call the car dealers a bunch of cheats and liars, well, they all thought this guy was over the top.</p>
<p>So ya, I think RF is correct. The police should be careful about being this clever. It&#8217;s one thing to use trickery to catch a felon, it&#8217;s another thing to use trickery like this. This sort of thing encourages deceitful behavior by taking the taboo away. The cost is not worth the benefit.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-637181</link>
		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; There actually should be training in where to position a police car, even with a dummy on board. A poorly placed smokey can cause accidents, if speeders slow down suddenly with a lot of traffic behind them in poor visibility. &lt;/b&gt; 

Who says there hasn&#039;t been such training?   How difficult is this?   How about parking in the same spot where real cops park when they&#039;re policing the area?</description>
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<p>Who says there hasn&#8217;t been such training?   How difficult is this?   How about parking in the same spot where real cops park when they&#8217;re policing the area?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: spinjack</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-637171</link>
		<dc:creator>spinjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Neighborhood Traffic Corps&quot;

This is just scary. I&#039;m all for neighborhoods doing there part to keep their own neighborhood safe. But there are waaaaay to many people with a chip on their shoulder. Putting a radar gun in their hands is a recipe for bad blood. Tickets for 1 mph over, anyone?</description>
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<p>This is just scary. I&#8217;m all for neighborhoods doing there part to keep their own neighborhood safe. But there are waaaaay to many people with a chip on their shoulder. Putting a radar gun in their hands is a recipe for bad blood. Tickets for 1 mph over, anyone?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-637132</link>
		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dynamic88

There actually should be training in where to position a police car, even with a dummy on board.  A poorly placed smokey can cause accidents, if speeders slow down suddenly with a lot of traffic behind them in poor visibility.</description>
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<p>There actually should be training in where to position a police car, even with a dummy on board.  A poorly placed smokey can cause accidents, if speeders slow down suddenly with a lot of traffic behind them in poor visibility.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gardiner Westbound</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-637081</link>
		<dc:creator>Gardiner Westbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sprinkling icing sugar on the dummy&#039;s blues would add realism.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca-police-decoy-is-all-kinds-of-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-636932</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably urban legend: there was a story about a dummy cop who drivers took potshots at, but one day was replaced by a real cop one day who ended up taking the bullet.</description>
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