Comments on: Bye Bye Buzz

By: Banned User

Banned User — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:07:16 +0000

McGuinty is running Ontario and I am holding him responsible for the coming meltdown.

And Buzz is so full of it. Like the closing of Oshawa truck was such a surprise? GM converted the Mexican Silao plant to pickup truck production last year. No new transmissions for GM Windsor or new engines for Ford Windsor? Buzz chased away the investment. Buzz is retiring while the CAW members are reaping the sorry results of his leadership. And no it is not the federals government fault that union auto jobs are leaving Ontario. And Lewenza will make it worse.

By: Gardiner Westbound

Gardiner Westbound — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:09:43 +0000

Union democracy! We don’t need no stinking membership vote.

By: mikey

mikey — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:46:05 +0000

Whoa! bluecon you think its McGuinty and Buzz are the bad guys?McGuinty been fully suportive of the Ontario car industry from day one.

What about the PCs?Well maybe they could have some input,if thier leader held an elected position eh?

By: Banned User

Banned User — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:12:55 +0000

Mikey has that wrong.
Buzz has been in bed with the Lieberals for a few years now. He dumped the old NDP union party a few elections ago and the Dippers(NDPer’s)kicked him out of the party. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see Basil run as Lieberal in the next election. Of course by then the Ontario economy thanks to Buzz and premier McGuinty will be down the tubes.

By: Wulv

Wulv — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:40:09 +0000

It just looks to me that Buzz sees how the unionized auto plants are tanking, and he’s getting the heck out of dodge before his legacy becomes many more closing car and parts plants.

By: 50merc

50merc — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:50:36 +0000

Always good to hear from Mikey and get the straight scoop from someone in the know.

By: mikey

mikey — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:42:45 +0000

OK:First off neither the CAW or Ontario has mandatory retirement.Buzz being Buzz has a plan.
Buzz has been in the buisness long enough to know when to walk away.Union politics is the most nasty of nasty politics there is.When its time to move on,you move on,or you get pushed.

As far as Buzz running as a Liberal MP? Unions
usually support the NDP.Thats the Canadian far left party run by a car hater and his anti car wife.

The CAW has strained relations with the NDP to say the least.Buzz as a Liberal is a bit of a reach though.

Lewenza seems to be the chosen one.Us in the rank and file don’t have a whole lot of input.

With the situation in the Canadian auto industry,we don’t have whole lot of time to dick around.If I was asked,I’d say lets put Lewenza behind the wheel.If we crash,we crash.This is not the time for a long drawn out divisive battle.

By: MikeInCanada

MikeInCanada — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:19:23 +0000

Another doughy white guy running a union….

This is going to provide years of entertainment for us. Oh yeah, he’ll kill off the rest of the auto jobs too.

By: psarhjinian

psarhjinian — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:14:50 +0000

cleek Says:
Is there any direct correlation between the highest priced NA labor force and measurable quality and productivity? Good value, bad value, or a push?

Maybe. Oshawa (GM) and Cambridge (Toyota) are the highest-quality North American plants for their respective parent companies. Oakville (Ford) and Alliston (Honda) are generally pretty good, too.

I don’t think it’s a labour cost thing as much as an whole environment. The Canadian shops are less “poisonous” environments, for various reasons, and the plant management is not quite as brutal about cutting corners.

By: NICKNICK

NICKNICK — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:47:07 +0000

rat…sinking ship…2+2…

By: Banned User

Banned User — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:48:44 +0000

Lewenza makes Hargrove look like a choir boy. Lewenza has a habit of just losing it and yelling and screaming no matter what the occasion. This is going to be interesting.

By: improvement_needed

improvement_needed — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:40:29 +0000

wasn’t buzz’s name also mentioned for party leadership for a while?
i forget if it was provincial or federal…

either way, good to see Buzz away from the caw. should have happened 10+ years ago…

By: GE Levecque

GE Levecque — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:34:32 +0000

There is a good rumour here in Ontario that Buzz will run in the next federal elections as a Liberal candidate! Time will tell, the next election has to be by Oct.2009 but it could happen before then as the present Tory government is in a Minority position and could fall at any time, right now they all our enjoying a long summer recess.

By: cleek

cleek — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:32:04 +0000

Is there any direct correlation between the highest priced NA labor force and measurable quality and productivity? Good value, bad value, or a push?