Comments on: Buzz Hargrove: Still Full of Piss and Vinegar (Part 1) http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:01:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Subifreak http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-644241 Subifreak Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:33:04 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-644241 Excellent interview! Excellent interview!

]]> By: GS650G http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-644062 GS650G Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:38:00 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-644062 We are a fly on the wall it seems. Rabid Rick is heading towards the wall and he is not backing down. That's because of the Golden Airbag in front of him. The workers will not be so lucky. Interesting enough is the labor costs in Canada. Does anyone know if any transplants from Korea, Japan or Europe build cars there? We are a fly on the wall it seems.

Rabid Rick is heading towards the wall and he is not backing down. That’s because of the Golden Airbag in front of him. The workers will not be so lucky.

Interesting enough is the labor costs in Canada. Does anyone know if any transplants from Korea, Japan or Europe build cars there?

]]> By: shaker http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-644002 shaker Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:56:57 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-644002 Buzz' candor is refreshing, as well as disturbing. Great Interview! Buzz’ candor is refreshing, as well as disturbing. Great Interview!

]]> By: John Horner http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-643781 John Horner Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:02:32 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-643781 Let me join the chorus saying: Job well done Samir! What a fascinating interview. Let me join the chorus saying: Job well done Samir! What a fascinating interview.

]]> By: RayH http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-643671 RayH Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:14:47 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-643671 Samir : <em>"Sometimes, all you have to do is ask."</em> Cool. Samir : “Sometimes, all you have to do is ask.”
Cool.

]]> By: SherbornSean http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-643542 SherbornSean Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:47:16 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-643542 Kudos to Samir and TTAC for a great interview. Kudos to Samir and TTAC for a great interview.

]]> By: Samir http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-643371 Samir Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:34:21 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-643371 <em>RayH: Love the interview. If possible, Samir, any back story on how the interview came to frutition? </em> Sometimes, all you have to do is ask. RayH: Love the interview. If possible, Samir, any back story on how the interview came to frutition?

Sometimes, all you have to do is ask.

]]> By: quasimondo http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-643192 quasimondo Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:05:53 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-643192 Yes, he sees that there's trouble in Detroit, so he's going to continue to milk them for what it's worth, corporate well-being be damned. Oh wait, I had him confused with Ron Gettelfinger. Yes, he sees that there’s trouble in Detroit, so he’s going to continue to milk them for what it’s worth, corporate well-being be damned.

Oh wait, I had him confused with Ron Gettelfinger.

]]> By: Zarba http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-643071 Zarba Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:28:16 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-643071 Great interview. He is one of the few power brokers in this whole mess that sees the handwriting on the wall and acknowledges reality. Great interview. He is one of the few power brokers in this whole mess that sees the handwriting on the wall and acknowledges reality.

]]> By: rob http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-642621 rob Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:04:54 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-642621 Bravo! I'm somewhat surprised by Buzz's candor, but I guess it doesn't matter with his retirement. Bravo!

I’m somewhat surprised by Buzz’s candor, but I guess it doesn’t matter with his retirement.

]]> By: SaturnV http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-642582 SaturnV Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:58:38 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-642582 I'd like to echo the numerous comments about TTAC coming up in the world with this interview. Nicely done! Looking forward to the next part (and hopefully more like it)... I’d like to echo the numerous comments about TTAC coming up in the world with this interview. Nicely done! Looking forward to the next part (and hopefully more like it)…

]]> By: bipsieboy http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-642012 bipsieboy Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:56:00 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-642012 excellent interview ! can't wait for part 2 and hear buzz's thoughts on "boot em bob" and company. excellent interview ! can’t wait for part 2 and hear buzz’s thoughts on “boot em bob” and company.

]]> By: motownr http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641991 motownr Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:52:55 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641991 One of the more interesting auto exec interviews in recent memory. Very, very well done. Kudos to you and TTAC. One of the more interesting auto exec interviews in recent memory. Very, very well done.

Kudos to you and TTAC.

]]> By: seoultrain http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641912 seoultrain Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:44:26 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641912 wow, bankruptcy for the Big 3 inevitable, eh? I hadn't thought of Chapter 11 as an inevitability for Ford, but maybe he knows something we don't. wow, bankruptcy for the Big 3 inevitable, eh? I hadn’t thought of Chapter 11 as an inevitability for Ford, but maybe he knows something we don’t.

]]> By: Banned User http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641862 Banned User Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:29:19 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641862 Buzz knew that the Silao, Mexico plant was converted to build pickups during the last model changeover and pickup sales were dropping like a rock. If he was such a smart guy and great negotiator he would have had it in the contract that GM could not close the Oshawa truck plant. Maybe he was just in such a rush to sign the contract early he overlooked that. Buzz is all about Buzz. Buzz knew that the Silao, Mexico plant was converted to build pickups during the last model changeover and pickup sales were dropping like a rock. If he was such a smart guy and great negotiator he would have had it in the contract that GM could not close the Oshawa truck plant. Maybe he was just in such a rush to sign the contract early he overlooked that. Buzz is all about Buzz.

]]> By: crackers http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641822 crackers Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:15:57 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641822 Good interview, but I am rather annoyed that the mainstream media could not have asked the same types of questions earlier in the year. It just goes to show that if you want real news and information, you have to forget about mainstream media and stick with sites like TTAC. Good interview, but I am rather annoyed that the mainstream media could not have asked the same types of questions earlier in the year. It just goes to show that if you want real news and information, you have to forget about mainstream media and stick with sites like TTAC.

]]> By: macarose http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641682 macarose Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:34:49 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641682 TTAC is on the cusp of mainstream legitimacy thanks in great part to the writers and contributors. Great work RF! TTAC is on the cusp of mainstream legitimacy thanks in great part to the writers and contributors.

Great work RF!

]]> By: ZoomZoom http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641611 ZoomZoom Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:17:58 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641611 <em>toxicroach : I wish Rick would let go of his ego. It looks like he is flat out refusing to consider it because he doesn’t want to be the guy who led the great & mighty GM into C11. <strong>He needs to pull his head out of his ass, let go of his ego, and really look at whats best for GM.</strong> They need to file while they still have some assets to get through this. If they hold off until creditors are ready to declare involuntary bankruptcy, it will be too late.</em> Rick Wagoner doesn't "need" to do anything. He should do the right thing, yes, but he doesn't "need" to. Likewise, the board doesn't "need" to do anything either. But if they wanted to do the right thing, they would ask for his resignation. Last Thursday would have been good, but I'll accept anytime this week. toxicroach :

I wish Rick would let go of his ego. It looks like he is flat out refusing to consider it because he doesn’t want to be the guy who led the great & mighty GM into C11. He needs to pull his head out of his ass, let go of his ego, and really look at whats best for GM. They need to file while they still have some assets to get through this. If they hold off until creditors are ready to declare involuntary bankruptcy, it will be too late.

Rick Wagoner doesn’t “need” to do anything. He should do the right thing, yes, but he doesn’t “need” to.

Likewise, the board doesn’t “need” to do anything either. But if they wanted to do the right thing, they would ask for his resignation. Last Thursday would have been good, but I’ll accept anytime this week.

]]> By: TR3GUY http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641551 TR3GUY Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:12:18 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641551 The interview follows most of the stories we've been hearing. GM is in deep trouble. It's almost like Iraq no one takes the blame but they have to do something. No one wants to be the guy that put them in chapter 11. I don't really blame the unions. Of course it's more expensive to build a car in the developed world than in a sweat shop. (note: my grandfather started local #1 of the garment workers union.. thank him for that one day off a week they got) My guess is Toyota in the US pays their workers well too. The problem is selling a car no one wants and when you do sell it you loose money on it. When GM goes under it will lay on the hands of managemet. Another post today spoke of Toyota knowing their threat was Korea; well our threat was Japan and we laughed it off. The interview follows most of the stories we’ve been hearing. GM is in deep trouble. It’s almost like Iraq no one takes the blame but they have to do something. No one wants to be the guy that put them in chapter 11.

I don’t really blame the unions. Of course it’s more expensive to build a car in the developed world than in a sweat shop. (note: my grandfather started local #1 of the garment workers union.. thank him for that one day off a week they got) My guess is Toyota in the US pays their workers well too. The problem is selling a car no one wants and when you do sell it you loose money on it.

When GM goes under it will lay on the hands of managemet.

Another post today spoke of Toyota knowing their threat was Korea; well our threat was Japan and we laughed it off.

]]> By: Dynamic88 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641532 Dynamic88 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:10:08 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641532 Great interview. Thanks. Great interview. Thanks.

]]> By: netrun http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641522 netrun Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:08:31 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641522 Great interview! I'm also glad to see TTAC moving up in the world. I'm not so concerned with Rick and his thoughts. What concerns me is that the Board of Directors likes what they are seeing. What could they possibly point to in the last three years as a success? Heck, the last 10? No CEO will ever admit they've loused things up. That's why you have a BoD, to push them out the door before they crash the ship into the ground. Great interview!

I’m also glad to see TTAC moving up in the world.

I’m not so concerned with Rick and his thoughts. What concerns me is that the Board of Directors likes what they are seeing. What could they possibly point to in the last three years as a success? Heck, the last 10?

No CEO will ever admit they’ve loused things up. That’s why you have a BoD, to push them out the door before they crash the ship into the ground.

]]> By: Wulv http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641512 Wulv Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:06:25 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641512 Great interview Samir, can't wait to read ch 2 now. Good to see Buzz sitting down with someone from TTAC and telling it like he sees it from the inside. I know I have had issues on how Buzz and the CAW have worked in the past, and probably will still, but Buzz has earned more respect from me just by giving time to someone at TTAC. Great interview Samir, can’t wait to read ch 2 now. Good to see Buzz sitting down with someone from TTAC and telling it like he sees it from the inside. I know I have had issues on how Buzz and the CAW have worked in the past, and probably will still, but Buzz has earned more respect from me just by giving time to someone at TTAC.

]]> By: RayH http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641511 RayH Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:03:18 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641511 Love the interview. If possible, Samir, any back story on how the interview came to frutition? Look forward to part two. Love the interview. If possible, Samir, any back story on how the interview came to frutition?

Look forward to part two.

]]> By: toxicroach http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641482 toxicroach Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:56:20 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641482 I wish Rick would let go of his ego. It looks like he is flat out refusing to consider it because he doesn't want to be the guy who led the great & mighty GM into C11. He needs to pull his head out of his ass, let go of his ego, and really look at whats best for GM. They need to file while they still have some assets to get through this. If they hold off until creditors are ready to declare involuntary bankruptcy, it will be too late. I wish Rick would let go of his ego. It looks like he is flat out refusing to consider it because he doesn’t want to be the guy who led the great & mighty GM into C11. He needs to pull his head out of his ass, let go of his ego, and really look at whats best for GM. They need to file while they still have some assets to get through this. If they hold off until creditors are ready to declare involuntary bankruptcy, it will be too late.

]]> By: guyincognito http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/buzz-hargrove-still-full-of-piss-and-vinegar-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-641422 guyincognito Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:43:16 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=59782#comment-641422 Wow, great interview! Wow, great interview!

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