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	<title>Comments on: Billy C&#8217;s 2008 Detroit Auto Show Round-up</title>
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		<title>By: faston</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-101119</link>
		<dc:creator>faston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sajeev Mehta :

&lt;em&gt;While Bill and I did the best we could (equipped to be self-publishing with a camera, laptop, note pad, cell phone, battery chargers) the sheer volume of Autobloggers and Jalopniks really drove the point home: new media ruled this event.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, and Fast Lane Daily delivered the Auto Show to me daily through a season&#039;s pass on my Tivo.  How cool is that? 

&lt;em&gt;jpc0067 :

I think that as long as people need to defecate, there will always be a home for the print media.&lt;/em&gt;

I used to think that too. Then I bought an ipod Touch.  My car magazines are now pretty lonely sitting there as I surf digg, TTAC, e-mail and youtube with this amazing little device.

The auto show coverage has always been one of the least interesting parts of the print mags to me.  As you point out, it&#039;s 2 months too late and I was more interested in the strengths of the magazines: in depth reviews and comparisons.</description>
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<p><em>While Bill and I did the best we could (equipped to be self-publishing with a camera, laptop, note pad, cell phone, battery chargers) the sheer volume of Autobloggers and Jalopniks really drove the point home: new media ruled this event.</em></p>
<p>Yes, and Fast Lane Daily delivered the Auto Show to me daily through a season&#8217;s pass on my Tivo.  How cool is that? </p>
<p><em>jpc0067 :</p>
<p>I think that as long as people need to defecate, there will always be a home for the print media.</em></p>
<p>I used to think that too. Then I bought an ipod Touch.  My car magazines are now pretty lonely sitting there as I surf digg, TTAC, e-mail and youtube with this amazing little device.</p>
<p>The auto show coverage has always been one of the least interesting parts of the print mags to me.  As you point out, it&#8217;s 2 months too late and I was more interested in the strengths of the magazines: in depth reviews and comparisons.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stop blowing your horns and speaking of the demise of the print media.&quot;

The decline of print media is well documented if you follow business news.   Various reports put the annual sales declines in the 5%-10% per year range for printed newspapers and magazines.

The situation is very similar to that of the photography business which has been in a painful transition from silver based (film) imaging to digital imagining.  That shift has already put a number of once proud companies like Konica, Minolta, and others completely out of the business and has decimated employment and profits at once huge companies like Kodak.  

Here you can see Kodak bldg 65 blown up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMyaKnh5_K8

Then there was building 9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBadx7kZZXk

And yet another Kodak building coming down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZq1ZlmZEtU

What really makes me sad is that the crowd cheers every one of these implosions.

This is what happens when an old way crumbles under the onslaught of the digital age.   There is absolutely zero evidence print media will escape a similar fate.  Luckily the offices of Car &amp; Driver likely are easier to put to another useful purpose than were the highly specialized Kodak production facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Stop blowing your horns and speaking of the demise of the print media.&#8221;</p>
<p>The decline of print media is well documented if you follow business news.   Various reports put the annual sales declines in the 5%-10% per year range for printed newspapers and magazines.</p>
<p>The situation is very similar to that of the photography business which has been in a painful transition from silver based (film) imaging to digital imagining.  That shift has already put a number of once proud companies like Konica, Minolta, and others completely out of the business and has decimated employment and profits at once huge companies like Kodak.  </p>
<p>Here you can see Kodak bldg 65 blown up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMyaKnh5_K8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMyaKnh5_K8</a></p>
<p>Then there was building 9:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBadx7kZZXk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBadx7kZZXk</a></p>
<p>And yet another Kodak building coming down:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZq1ZlmZEtU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZq1ZlmZEtU</a></p>
<p>What really makes me sad is that the crowd cheers every one of these implosions.</p>
<p>This is what happens when an old way crumbles under the onslaught of the digital age.   There is absolutely zero evidence print media will escape a similar fate.  Luckily the offices of Car &amp; Driver likely are easier to put to another useful purpose than were the highly specialized Kodak production facilities.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: motowner</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-100333</link>
		<dc:creator>motowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More losers:

G8:  It may drive like a dream and be subsidized to death...but it&#039;s bland in person.  A major disappointment.

Astra:  It&#039;s hard to imagine how they think customers will overlook the inscrutable radio/dash controls to drive a cramped, listless box.  Another disappointment.</description>
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<p>G8:  It may drive like a dream and be subsidized to death&#8230;but it&#8217;s bland in person.  A major disappointment.</p>
<p>Astra:  It&#8217;s hard to imagine how they think customers will overlook the inscrutable radio/dash controls to drive a cramped, listless box.  Another disappointment.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: motowner</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-100331</link>
		<dc:creator>motowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another loser:

The Koreans.

The only thing worse than launching a horrible knockoff of every luxury car (Hyundai) had to be launching an ugly BOF V8 (Kia) when the rest of the industry is running away from the segment.

The sun has set on these guys, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Another loser:</p>
<p>The Koreans.</p>
<p>The only thing worse than launching a horrible knockoff of every luxury car (Hyundai) had to be launching an ugly BOF V8 (Kia) when the rest of the industry is running away from the segment.</p>
<p>The sun has set on these guys, IMO.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: motowner</title>
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		<dc:creator>motowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit of color for your &#039;losers&#039; list:

The brain trust at Chrysler somehow forgot to plug in the power for the seat mechanisms in the majority of the display vehicles....meaning, unless it was a base unit with manual adjustments, opinion generators and potential customers were treated to seats stuck in whatever position the car jockeys left them in.  

My colleagues and I were so dumbfounded that we eventually tracked down a Chrysler rep to politely ask them...&quot;WTF?&quot;

To which we were told:  &quot;I&#039;ll be sure to put this in my report.&quot;

Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A bit of color for your &#8216;losers&#8217; list:</p>
<p>The brain trust at Chrysler somehow forgot to plug in the power for the seat mechanisms in the majority of the display vehicles&#8230;.meaning, unless it was a base unit with manual adjustments, opinion generators and potential customers were treated to seats stuck in whatever position the car jockeys left them in.  </p>
<p>My colleagues and I were so dumbfounded that we eventually tracked down a Chrysler rep to politely ask them&#8230;&#8221;WTF?&#8221;</p>
<p>To which we were told:  &#8220;I&#8217;ll be sure to put this in my report.&#8221;</p>
<p>Genius.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: frontline</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-100165</link>
		<dc:creator>frontline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;THE GOOD OLD DAYS&quot;                             It was just a few years ago when , come the 7th of the month or a little later if the 7th came early in the week { mags were shipped only on Thursday} , I would go to the bookstore and buy C&amp;D, R&amp;T,Cycle and maybe MT. Autoweek came in the mail. I bought the other mags on the stand bcause sometimes the store got them before I did and I just couldn&#039;t tolerate that. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.
     I&#039;ll tell you what magazine I still buy is &quot;Octane&quot; from England. So far ,I can&#039;t duplicate that online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;THE GOOD OLD DAYS&#8221;                             It was just a few years ago when , come the 7th of the month or a little later if the 7th came early in the week { mags were shipped only on Thursday} , I would go to the bookstore and buy C&amp;D, R&amp;T,Cycle and maybe MT. Autoweek came in the mail. I bought the other mags on the stand bcause sometimes the store got them before I did and I just couldn&#8217;t tolerate that. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.<br />
     I&#8217;ll tell you what magazine I still buy is &#8220;Octane&#8221; from England. So far ,I can&#8217;t duplicate that online.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: IronEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>IronEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lmao at William and Nopanegain. Hilarious!

Great coverage here of the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Lmao at William and Nopanegain. Hilarious!</p>
<p>Great coverage here of the show.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nopanegain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nopanegain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, William.  My C&amp;D is perched atop the water tank...  
I wonder how many camera crews were there from random morning shows following him, versus what camera crews were from Hachette...  Next year take note of the credentials of the camera crews in tote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Indeed, William.  My C&amp;D is perched atop the water tank&#8230;<br />
I wonder how many camera crews were there from random morning shows following him, versus what camera crews were from Hachette&#8230;  Next year take note of the credentials of the camera crews in tote&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-100129</link>
		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nopanegain:

Mr. Chedda was at NAIAS as a TV reporter not as a print journalist, so I don’t think he was looking to me or TTAC for guidance.  Sajeev and I roamed about with pen and pad in hand and laptops at the ready to blog and editorialize.  Meanwhile, Chubba prepared for and taped video segments.

Chubba knows as well as we do that by the time his magazine goes to press with NAIAS coverage, the event will be ancient history.  So his presence at the show was as a TV commentator, not a magazine editor.

Put another way, increasingly the public is looking toward Internet outlets for current content regarding automobiles.  On the other hand, people reach for an auto rag to facilitate a good bowel movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nopanegain:</p>
<p>Mr. Chedda was at NAIAS as a TV reporter not as a print journalist, so I don’t think he was looking to me or TTAC for guidance.  Sajeev and I roamed about with pen and pad in hand and laptops at the ready to blog and editorialize.  Meanwhile, Chubba prepared for and taped video segments.</p>
<p>Chubba knows as well as we do that by the time his magazine goes to press with NAIAS coverage, the event will be ancient history.  So his presence at the show was as a TV commentator, not a magazine editor.</p>
<p>Put another way, increasingly the public is looking toward Internet outlets for current content regarding automobiles.  On the other hand, people reach for an auto rag to facilitate a good bowel movement.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZoomZoom</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-100120</link>
		<dc:creator>ZoomZoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, the Corvette ZR-1 looks like an old 70&#039;s Firebird/Camaro to me...</description>
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		<title>By: Nopanegain</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-100118</link>
		<dc:creator>Nopanegain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, just curious on your experiences with &quot;Chubba.&quot;  I do not want to start trouble, but do you really think he was looking toward TTAC as guidance?  After all, he has owned the COBO center show, especially with every television morning show crew following him for commentary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->William, just curious on your experiences with &#8220;Chubba.&#8221;  I do not want to start trouble, but do you really think he was looking toward TTAC as guidance?  After all, he has owned the COBO center show, especially with every television morning show crew following him for commentary&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
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		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To survive, the print media will need to show value beyond what&#039;s available online.  That means the typical coverage of auto shows is out, given that websites do a better job, and deliver the news a month earlier.

But that doesn&#039;t mean the print media necessarily should roll up and die.  They do three things rather well, at least sometimes:

1.  car comparisons -- most websites don&#039;t have the pull or budget to bring together 3-8 competing vehicles for real testing, and frankly, this is worth a lot more to readers than the usual new car &quot;review,&quot; which in most places (not here) is mostly a re-worded press release.

2. editorials by respected writers who have something deep rather than new to say.  (NOTE: this is by no means meant as a veiled criticism of TTAC)

3. finally, one thing I like is that one of the magazines (I forget which) will print a full page picture of a new vehicle, and then point out all the styling success and weaknesses.  For people who view cars as (potential) artforms, this is very cool.

Could online sites do these things?  Sure, and then you go back to jpc0067&#039;s point, at least until tablet PC&#039;s and web-enabled PDA&#039;s become prevalent.

Anyhow, kudos to William on an insightful summary.  Personally, I can&#039;t wait to see the CTS coupe in the flesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->To survive, the print media will need to show value beyond what&#8217;s available online.  That means the typical coverage of auto shows is out, given that websites do a better job, and deliver the news a month earlier.</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean the print media necessarily should roll up and die.  They do three things rather well, at least sometimes:</p>
<p>1.  car comparisons &#8212; most websites don&#8217;t have the pull or budget to bring together 3-8 competing vehicles for real testing, and frankly, this is worth a lot more to readers than the usual new car &#8220;review,&#8221; which in most places (not here) is mostly a re-worded press release.</p>
<p>2. editorials by respected writers who have something deep rather than new to say.  (NOTE: this is by no means meant as a veiled criticism of TTAC)</p>
<p>3. finally, one thing I like is that one of the magazines (I forget which) will print a full page picture of a new vehicle, and then point out all the styling success and weaknesses.  For people who view cars as (potential) artforms, this is very cool.</p>
<p>Could online sites do these things?  Sure, and then you go back to jpc0067&#8217;s point, at least until tablet PC&#8217;s and web-enabled PDA&#8217;s become prevalent.</p>
<p>Anyhow, kudos to William on an insightful summary.  Personally, I can&#8217;t wait to see the CTS coupe in the flesh.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: frontline</title>
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		<dc:creator>frontline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Alfa pics William. The 8c 2800 series are my favorite cars in life. A mysterious fellow named McClure Halley owned a car similar to that in NYC circa 1938 . He worked for a wealthy widow at the time and bought the car new from the Alfa factory. I really would like to find out more about him because dog trainers usually can&#039;t afford an 8c Alfa.</description>
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		<title>By: Guzzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guzzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that as long as people need to defecate, there will always be a home for the print media.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;John:

Telsa’s no show might be to their credit. If the auto industry trade shows are anything like my industry’s (medical devices), its mostly pissing contest and chest beating. To paraphrase someone, 90% of all advertising is wasted. We just don’t know which 90%.&lt;/em&gt;

Nice thought. Only they&#039;re going to the Montreal show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>John:</p>
<p>Telsa’s no show might be to their credit. If the auto industry trade shows are anything like my industry’s (medical devices), its mostly pissing contest and chest beating. To paraphrase someone, 90% of all advertising is wasted. We just don’t know which 90%.</em></p>
<p>Nice thought. Only they&#8217;re going to the Montreal show.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telsa&#039;s no show might be to their credit.  If the auto industry trade shows are anything like my industry&#039;s (medical devices), its mostly pissing contest and chest beating.  To paraphrase someone, 90% of all advertising is wasted.  We just don&#039;t know which 90%.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Telsa&#8217;s no show might be to their credit.  If the auto industry trade shows are anything like my industry&#8217;s (medical devices), its mostly pissing contest and chest beating.  To paraphrase someone, 90% of all advertising is wasted.  We just don&#8217;t know which 90%.</p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99949</link>
		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt really bad for Chrysler.  The only concept cars with powertrains of the future they could show were imaginary.  They have no hydrogen or hybrid capabilities of their own, which means the cupboard is truly bare.  We are witnesses to the death of a once-great automaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I felt really bad for Chrysler.  The only concept cars with powertrains of the future they could show were imaginary.  They have no hydrogen or hybrid capabilities of their own, which means the cupboard is truly bare.  We are witnesses to the death of a once-great automaker.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with danms6.  More coverge on the Furai.  Saw a video of it the other day, and just listening to that enging is auditory bliss.  I may not need porn any more after that video...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree with danms6.  More coverge on the Furai.  Saw a video of it the other day, and just listening to that enging is auditory bliss.  I may not need porn any more after that video&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99902</link>
		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alfa was clearly the most beautiful car at the show but as Sajeev indicated, the black on black display made the Alfa difficult to photograph.  Here are my attempts: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pixamo.com/users/ttac/view?thing=164647&quot; title=&quot;1938 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 Spider Touring&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1938 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 Spider Touring&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Alfa was clearly the most beautiful car at the show but as Sajeev indicated, the black on black display made the Alfa difficult to photograph.  Here are my attempts: <a href="http://www.pixamo.com/users/ttac/view?thing=164647" title="1938 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 Spider Touring" rel="nofollow">1938 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 Spider Touring</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99898</link>
		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu Sidoti:

The security people told me that the Alfa is valued between $15 and $20 million.  If you can afford that, you&#039;re Mazarati rich.</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99879</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alfa was lovely. 

Too bad they parked its stunning black body in a completely black display.</description>
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		<title>By: Stu Sidoti</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99822</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Sidoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me if I&#039;m somewhat off-topic here but...

Mazda Furai? Very nicely done...Corvette ZR1? Very well executed, very capable. As exciting as these and other &#039;new&#039; cars were at the show, the one car that had me coming back again and again, wishing I could start it up and take it home was 70 years old-the 1938 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900B Spider body by Touring in the Louis Vuitton Classic display. No other car at the show even came close to capturing my imagination or exuded so much artistry in all of it&#039;s design and engineering. </description>
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<p>Mazda Furai? Very nicely done&#8230;Corvette ZR1? Very well executed, very capable. As exciting as these and other &#8216;new&#8217; cars were at the show, the one car that had me coming back again and again, wishing I could start it up and take it home was 70 years old-the 1938 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900B Spider body by Touring in the Louis Vuitton Classic display. No other car at the show even came close to capturing my imagination or exuded so much artistry in all of it&#8217;s design and engineering.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Samir Syed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir Syed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G8 will probably sell with a big ass discount over the CTS. That will be enough for some. The rest of its buyers will be Pontiac fans.

Good work guys. I&#039;m going to an autoshow soon too, but only because my friends are dragging me. I appreciate the endurance this must have taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The G8 will probably sell with a big ass discount over the CTS. That will be enough for some. The rest of its buyers will be Pontiac fans.</p>
<p>Good work guys. I&#8217;m going to an autoshow soon too, but only because my friends are dragging me. I appreciate the endurance this must have taken.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: oboylepr</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99738</link>
		<dc:creator>oboylepr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;the drop-dead gorgeous, thundering Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 &lt;/em&gt;

Huh! Looks more like a Dodge Viper with every iteration.

Why would anyone buy a CTS or G8 over any other vehicle made by a car company NOT heading for the big B?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>the drop-dead gorgeous, thundering Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 </em></p>
<p>Huh! Looks more like a Dodge Viper with every iteration.</p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/billy-cs-2008-detroit-auto-show-round-up/comment-page-1/#comment-99678</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landcrusher is right. Print media was rather outdated during the show. 

While Bill and I did the best we could (equipped to be self-publishing with a camera, laptop, note pad, cell phone, battery chargers) the sheer volume of Autobloggers and Jalopniks really drove the point home: new media ruled this event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Landcrusher is right. Print media was rather outdated during the show. </p>
<p>While Bill and I did the best we could (equipped to be self-publishing with a camera, laptop, note pad, cell phone, battery chargers) the sheer volume of Autobloggers and Jalopniks really drove the point home: new media ruled this event.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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