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	<title>Comments on: Between the Lines: Berkowitz Hits the [Toyota] Open Road</title>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-504651</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmmm....interesting theory, Yota....hmmmm

Let&#039;s see the projected timeline.

Venza due in fall, only in V6, 4 cylinder to follow in subsequent months.

Hybrid announcement in January.

2008 just announced to be the year of a new 2.5L engine, which will likely replacing all the ubiquitous 2.4L engines.

Ergo, the 2.7L, not being the replacement for the 2.4, must be a new hybrid engine, finding its way into the Camry and Venza, while the Highlander eventually upgrades its 3.3L hybrid to a 3.5L hybrid, or maybe gets one of each.

Why else would Toyota have two 4 cylinder engines so close?  So what could it get...210 hp, 40 mpg?  Would make a great Lexus hybrid engine.  IS300h, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->hmmmmm&#8230;.interesting theory, Yota&#8230;.hmmmm</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see the projected timeline.</p>
<p>Venza due in fall, only in V6, 4 cylinder to follow in subsequent months.</p>
<p>Hybrid announcement in January.</p>
<p>2008 just announced to be the year of a new 2.5L engine, which will likely replacing all the ubiquitous 2.4L engines.</p>
<p>Ergo, the 2.7L, not being the replacement for the 2.4, must be a new hybrid engine, finding its way into the Camry and Venza, while the Highlander eventually upgrades its 3.3L hybrid to a 3.5L hybrid, or maybe gets one of each.</p>
<p>Why else would Toyota have two 4 cylinder engines so close?  So what could it get&#8230;210 hp, 40 mpg?  Would make a great Lexus hybrid engine.  IS300h, anyone?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: YotaCarFan</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-504362</link>
		<dc:creator>YotaCarFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could the Venza be one of the new hybrid models Toyota is planning to introduce soon?  That would explain why there is no info on the engine&#039;s fuel efficiency or horsepower - providing that info would give away the hybrid nature of the car.  If this thing is a hybrid, it will be quite a hot item.</description>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-503601</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the worst thing that Open Road Blog can be accused here is over-hyping something, I would question the big brou-ha-ha of concern.  If the worst thing is the Venza itself, well then that is another matter.

I read Open Road Blog (I subscribe to the e-mails) and generally enjoy the skewed, one-sided Toyota loving.  It provides a nice change from the relentless bashing on many blogs.  I actually anticipate my daily arrival and am disappointed when Irv skips a day.  The Blog is for Toyota lovers.  It&#039;s not that it lacks objectivity (sometimes) or facts (often).  But it presents its viewpoints from Toyota itself, not from an outside source.  It is also found on Toyota&#039;s website.  So it cannot help but be a marketing tool.  Why should it not be involved in hyping the latest offering, an actual new product, not just an update?

As for the Venza itself, for some people this car is going to be near perfect.  It is amazing how quickly some mfrs have drifted away from the car-based CUV concept to ones that are too big, too thirsty, too clumsy (Lambda quadruplets, I&#039;m lookin at you.  You too, Pilot.)  Toyota, who invented this genre (RAV4, Highlander, RX300), has gone back to the drawing board to maybe make the &quot;C&quot; in CUV stand for car.

Now having said all that, I too am disappointed in the Microsite for not offering the info we consumers really need about this product.  I, for one, am very anxious to find out specs on the 2.7L engine.  But it will come in time.  That&#039;s why Toyota lets consumers sign up for updates.  Justin, I&#039;m sure you signed up and anxiously await your first e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If the worst thing that Open Road Blog can be accused here is over-hyping something, I would question the big brou-ha-ha of concern.  If the worst thing is the Venza itself, well then that is another matter.</p>
<p>I read Open Road Blog (I subscribe to the e-mails) and generally enjoy the skewed, one-sided Toyota loving.  It provides a nice change from the relentless bashing on many blogs.  I actually anticipate my daily arrival and am disappointed when Irv skips a day.  The Blog is for Toyota lovers.  It&#8217;s not that it lacks objectivity (sometimes) or facts (often).  But it presents its viewpoints from Toyota itself, not from an outside source.  It is also found on Toyota&#8217;s website.  So it cannot help but be a marketing tool.  Why should it not be involved in hyping the latest offering, an actual new product, not just an update?</p>
<p>As for the Venza itself, for some people this car is going to be near perfect.  It is amazing how quickly some mfrs have drifted away from the car-based CUV concept to ones that are too big, too thirsty, too clumsy (Lambda quadruplets, I&#8217;m lookin at you.  You too, Pilot.)  Toyota, who invented this genre (RAV4, Highlander, RX300), has gone back to the drawing board to maybe make the &#8220;C&#8221; in CUV stand for car.</p>
<p>Now having said all that, I too am disappointed in the Microsite for not offering the info we consumers really need about this product.  I, for one, am very anxious to find out specs on the 2.7L engine.  But it will come in time.  That&#8217;s why Toyota lets consumers sign up for updates.  Justin, I&#8217;m sure you signed up and anxiously await your first e-mail.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: thoots</title>
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		<dc:creator>thoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the &quot;What&#039;s the big deal&quot; camp in regards to the Venza.

It &lt;b&gt;IS&lt;/b&gt; a &quot;Camry wagon.&quot;  Though, given bushels-full of evidence that common, ordinary &quot;wagons&quot; don&#039;t sell enough to be worth bothering over, it&#039;s an &quot;above-a-top-of-the-line Camry wagon in crossover format,&quot; and I&#039;ll bet that Toyota will sell essentially all that they would care to build.

Did anyone notice Camry sales moving out of the 40,000-unit-per-month range to the 50,000-unit-per month range in these times of high gas prices?  Along with a few other models -- Corolla, Civic, and Accord -- these appear to be prime destinations for people bailing out of trucks and SUV&#039;s.  So, what does Toyota have &lt;b&gt;READY TO GO RIGHT NOW?&lt;/b&gt;  Yes, a crossover version of the Camry.  &lt;b&gt;PERFECT&lt;/b&gt; timing.

In the end, it just doesn&#039;t matter if Toyota&#039;s marketing campaign is lame -- they&#039;ve got cars on the lot that people want to buy.  Except the ones for which demand is so high that they&#039;re sold before they can set tire on any lot.  And while the 2.8 are closing plants, Toyota is converting some of its truck-building capacity to build the cars that are so high in demand right now.

So, go ahead and criticize the Venza and, yes, the lame marketing campaign, but Toyota will keep on selling more cars than anyone else, while the 2.8 shrink to oblivion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m in the &#8220;What&#8217;s the big deal&#8221; camp in regards to the Venza.</p>
<p>It <b>IS</b> a &#8220;Camry wagon.&#8221;  Though, given bushels-full of evidence that common, ordinary &#8220;wagons&#8221; don&#8217;t sell enough to be worth bothering over, it&#8217;s an &#8220;above-a-top-of-the-line Camry wagon in crossover format,&#8221; and I&#8217;ll bet that Toyota will sell essentially all that they would care to build.</p>
<p>Did anyone notice Camry sales moving out of the 40,000-unit-per-month range to the 50,000-unit-per month range in these times of high gas prices?  Along with a few other models &#8212; Corolla, Civic, and Accord &#8212; these appear to be prime destinations for people bailing out of trucks and SUV&#8217;s.  So, what does Toyota have <b>READY TO GO RIGHT NOW?</b>  Yes, a crossover version of the Camry.  <b>PERFECT</b> timing.</p>
<p>In the end, it just doesn&#8217;t matter if Toyota&#8217;s marketing campaign is lame &#8212; they&#8217;ve got cars on the lot that people want to buy.  Except the ones for which demand is so high that they&#8217;re sold before they can set tire on any lot.  And while the 2.8 are closing plants, Toyota is converting some of its truck-building capacity to build the cars that are so high in demand right now.</p>
<p>So, go ahead and criticize the Venza and, yes, the lame marketing campaign, but Toyota will keep on selling more cars than anyone else, while the 2.8 shrink to oblivion.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: megnted (of GM)</title>
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		<dc:creator>megnted (of GM)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great editorial. As said in an earlier post. It is a good thing Toyota has great engineers. Makes me wonder how they came up with the marketing savvy to market the Prius</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Celica and the MR2 are the only ones I have any experience with actually on the road, and yes that was my point, they don&#039;t offer a car that I would even call sporty, least of all a sports car.  I&#039;m guessing that the sporty Toyotas of the past didn&#039;t sell in volume because sporty cars aren&#039;t volume sellers as a general rule.  Yes there are exceptions, the biggest of which is the Mustang, but nothing like the numbers of hot selling family cars and trucks.  And, because sporty is the last thing Toyota is identified with.  We don&#039;t make sporty cars because we aren&#039;t identified as sporty because we don&#039;t make sporty cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Celica and the MR2 are the only ones I have any experience with actually on the road, and yes that was my point, they don&#8217;t offer a car that I would even call sporty, least of all a sports car.  I&#8217;m guessing that the sporty Toyotas of the past didn&#8217;t sell in volume because sporty cars aren&#8217;t volume sellers as a general rule.  Yes there are exceptions, the biggest of which is the Mustang, but nothing like the numbers of hot selling family cars and trucks.  And, because sporty is the last thing Toyota is identified with.  We don&#8217;t make sporty cars because we aren&#8217;t identified as sporty because we don&#8217;t make sporty cars.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: wmba</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the Toyota niche vehicle for Mid Morning Coffee Break Eco-Dashes With Friends to Timmies (Dunkin Donuts) for a java? A four door dowdy fuel sipper with froggy face and profile, mouse fur and wooly towel and cheap plastic interior, and a certain feeling of sitting on top of a noisy engine whilst perched on wobbly seats...

Let me check the Toyota website....
They must have something for this mission....
The excitement builds.....

Click, click......click, click....

Ah yes!  Of course.  The 5 door Yaris.  An extra door for your dog.  Expectations exceeded!  They&#039;ve got even this market lineup hole plugged tight, except for missing about 29 pounds of ugly chrome grille.  They&#039;ll fix that on the Mark II, I bet.  Blow it up like a big balloon by stretching all dimensions by a factor of 1.3 and fitting a 5.7 liter V8 for better highway mileage.

Toyota can meet all your needs.

They&#039;ll be making my Subies next. Feelings of intense peace are flooding over my body.  Contentment. Warmth.

Now why didn&#039;t the big 2.8 start planning for all this kind of thing in 1993?  Talk about lack of foresight and adherence to quarterly profit forecasts over long-term R &amp; D. Rant, rant, rant.

(Frothing at the mouth, your correspondent was dragged away by two nice men in white coats for a few days of much-needed rest, mouthing the word &quot;Venza&quot; over and over again)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Where&#8217;s the Toyota niche vehicle for Mid Morning Coffee Break Eco-Dashes With Friends to Timmies (Dunkin Donuts) for a java? A four door dowdy fuel sipper with froggy face and profile, mouse fur and wooly towel and cheap plastic interior, and a certain feeling of sitting on top of a noisy engine whilst perched on wobbly seats&#8230;</p>
<p>Let me check the Toyota website&#8230;.<br />
They must have something for this mission&#8230;.<br />
The excitement builds&#8230;..</p>
<p>Click, click&#8230;&#8230;click, click&#8230;.</p>
<p>Ah yes!  Of course.  The 5 door Yaris.  An extra door for your dog.  Expectations exceeded!  They&#8217;ve got even this market lineup hole plugged tight, except for missing about 29 pounds of ugly chrome grille.  They&#8217;ll fix that on the Mark II, I bet.  Blow it up like a big balloon by stretching all dimensions by a factor of 1.3 and fitting a 5.7 liter V8 for better highway mileage.</p>
<p>Toyota can meet all your needs.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll be making my Subies next. Feelings of intense peace are flooding over my body.  Contentment. Warmth.</p>
<p>Now why didn&#8217;t the big 2.8 start planning for all this kind of thing in 1993?  Talk about lack of foresight and adherence to quarterly profit forecasts over long-term R &amp; D. Rant, rant, rant.</p>
<p>(Frothing at the mouth, your correspondent was dragged away by two nice men in white coats for a few days of much-needed rest, mouthing the word &#8220;Venza&#8221; over and over again)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lumbergh,

Now, while your point is true, Toyota has tried selling some very fun-to-drive cars.  Off the top of my head, recent models:
* 2nd-Gen RAV/4
* 7th-Gen Celica  (yes, yes, FWD, but how can you argue with 2500lbs, 180hp, razor steering and 8000rpm?)
* 1st-Gen Altezza/IS300 (man, do I miss this car...)
* Any MR2 (cheapest mid-engine car you can buy, excepting the Fiero, which has, ah, issues)
* Any Supra

  The problem is that every one of these cars sold badly.  People wanted Camrys and Highlanders and Siennas and, by god, that&#039;s what Toyota&#039;s going to give them.</description>
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<p>Now, while your point is true, Toyota has tried selling some very fun-to-drive cars.  Off the top of my head, recent models:<br />
* 2nd-Gen RAV/4<br />
* 7th-Gen Celica  (yes, yes, FWD, but how can you argue with 2500lbs, 180hp, razor steering and 8000rpm?)<br />
* 1st-Gen Altezza/IS300 (man, do I miss this car&#8230;)<br />
* Any MR2 (cheapest mid-engine car you can buy, excepting the Fiero, which has, ah, issues)<br />
* Any Supra</p>
<p>  The problem is that every one of these cars sold badly.  People wanted Camrys and Highlanders and Siennas and, by god, that&#8217;s what Toyota&#8217;s going to give them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;psarhjinian : 
June 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pm 


There’s a hole in Toyota’s lineup? Where?
&lt;/em&gt;
I believe they are missing a car in the person-with-a-pulse category or the I-like-driving category</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>psarhjinian :<br />
June 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pm </p>
<p>There’s a hole in Toyota’s lineup? Where?<br />
</em><br />
I believe they are missing a car in the person-with-a-pulse category or the I-like-driving category<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Geotpf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geotpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All recent hatchback/SUV-style vehicles from Toyota have absolutely &lt;strong&gt;huge&lt;/strong&gt; D-Pillars, creating large blind spots to the rear.  See the Venza, FJ Cruiser, new Scion xB, new Matrix, and the Scion xD for examples.  Whoever came up with this particular design meme at Toyota needs to be run over by somebody reversing one of these vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->All recent hatchback/SUV-style vehicles from Toyota have absolutely <strong>huge</strong> D-Pillars, creating large blind spots to the rear.  See the Venza, FJ Cruiser, new Scion xB, new Matrix, and the Scion xD for examples.  Whoever came up with this particular design meme at Toyota needs to be run over by somebody reversing one of these vehicles.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: oldyak</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never got an answer...are there miniature twins in
the glove box?
go go Godzilla.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I never got an answer&#8230;are there miniature twins in<br />
the glove box?<br />
go go Godzilla&#8230;..<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Guzzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guzzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lprocter1982:

They wouldn&#039;t make enough money on a wagon is my guess. Why give people what they need when you can sell them what they don&#039;t need at $10000 more?</description>
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<p>They wouldn&#8217;t make enough money on a wagon is my guess. Why give people what they need when you can sell them what they don&#8217;t need at $10000 more?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: CarShark</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarShark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, like others here, don&#039;t see the point of this Camry hatchback for shallow people. Then again, I was wrong about the Ford Edge, as well.</description>
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		<title>By: seoultrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>seoultrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty funny, but I dunno, that seems a little too easy.

Cracked up at &quot;Microsite!&quot;, though. You got me with that one, JB.</description>
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		<title>By: lprocter1982</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500421</link>
		<dc:creator>lprocter1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Toyota wanted to make a vehicle with the room of an SUV but the mileage of a Camry, why in the hell didn&#039;t they just make a Camry wagon? Would&#039;ve been a hell of a lot cheaper, and people would buy it because it says Camry on it, instead of an ugly thingy that doesn&#039;t.

For that matter, why in the hell did manufacturers start making crossovers anyway? Why not just make wagons - they&#039;re the same damn thing, but cost less to make, and cost a hell of a lot less the market. I&#039;d love a wagon version of my Impala. Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If Toyota wanted to make a vehicle with the room of an SUV but the mileage of a Camry, why in the hell didn&#8217;t they just make a Camry wagon? Would&#8217;ve been a hell of a lot cheaper, and people would buy it because it says Camry on it, instead of an ugly thingy that doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>For that matter, why in the hell did manufacturers start making crossovers anyway? Why not just make wagons &#8211; they&#8217;re the same damn thing, but cost less to make, and cost a hell of a lot less the market. I&#8217;d love a wagon version of my Impala. Oh well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lzaffuto</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500322</link>
		<dc:creator>lzaffuto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the big deal? It&#039;s a Camry wagon with a lift kit. But don&#039;t let your enthusiast preferences delude you. The average American will buy TONS more of these than they would a lowered &quot;true&quot; Camry hatchback/wagon. There&#039;s plenty of history there to back it up. Hell, it&#039;s practically the whole reason for Subaru&#039;s existance in the US. Remember Subaru cancelling the Legacy wagon for poor sales while keeping the &quot;Outback Sport Utility Wagon&quot;(same car, just lifted with 500 pounds of plastic body cladding and therefore ugly and clumsy to drive instead of nice and fun to drive)? Adding 4 inches of lift and calling it a CUV/SUV makes any car sell better to the average American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What&#8217;s the big deal? It&#8217;s a Camry wagon with a lift kit. But don&#8217;t let your enthusiast preferences delude you. The average American will buy TONS more of these than they would a lowered &#8220;true&#8221; Camry hatchback/wagon. There&#8217;s plenty of history there to back it up. Hell, it&#8217;s practically the whole reason for Subaru&#8217;s existance in the US. Remember Subaru cancelling the Legacy wagon for poor sales while keeping the &#8220;Outback Sport Utility Wagon&#8221;(same car, just lifted with 500 pounds of plastic body cladding and therefore ugly and clumsy to drive instead of nice and fun to drive)? Adding 4 inches of lift and calling it a CUV/SUV makes any car sell better to the average American.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geeber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500251</link>
		<dc:creator>geeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Stein X Leikanger: There are a lot of spectacularly untalented people working in marketing and PR.&lt;/i&gt;

Better they work there, as opposed to engineering, styling or product planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Stein X Leikanger: There are a lot of spectacularly untalented people working in marketing and PR.</i></p>
<p>Better they work there, as opposed to engineering, styling or product planning.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500191</link>
		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a hole in Toyota&#039;s lineup?  Where?

Seriously, the Venza needs to be either six inches closer to the ground or a foot and half shorter to fill this mythical &quot;hole&quot; in Toyota&#039;s lineup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->There&#8217;s a hole in Toyota&#8217;s lineup?  Where?</p>
<p>Seriously, the Venza needs to be either six inches closer to the ground or a foot and half shorter to fill this mythical &#8220;hole&#8221; in Toyota&#8217;s lineup.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: optic</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500102</link>
		<dc:creator>optic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to nitpick, but saying &quot;venza is the number one keyword bringing people to this site&quot; is not the same as saying &quot;this site is the number one result for the keyword venza&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->not to nitpick, but saying &#8220;venza is the number one keyword bringing people to this site&#8221; is not the same as saying &#8220;this site is the number one result for the keyword venza&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jaydez</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500062</link>
		<dc:creator>jaydez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.  When you google Venza the microsite is 5 spots down.  It ranks behind places like autoblog and left lane news... they need to work on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->wow.  When you google Venza the microsite is 5 spots down.  It ranks behind places like autoblog and left lane news&#8230; they need to work on that.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BostonTeaParty</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-500012</link>
		<dc:creator>BostonTeaParty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At detroit where they showed the concept it was up high with the doors open, yes it was to try and disguise the hideous flanks and mess of a rear end. Oh how we laughed.
I think you&#039;ll find you won&#039;t hear from the designer as he&#039;s been put in the designer protection scheme by the toyota feds, hopefully we will never hear from he/she again!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->At detroit where they showed the concept it was up high with the doors open, yes it was to try and disguise the hideous flanks and mess of a rear end. Oh how we laughed.<br />
I think you&#8217;ll find you won&#8217;t hear from the designer as he&#8217;s been put in the designer protection scheme by the toyota feds, hopefully we will never hear from he/she again!!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stein X Leikanger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-499771</link>
		<dc:creator>Stein X Leikanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of spectacularly untalented people working in marketing and PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->There are a lot of spectacularly untalented people working in marketing and PR.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: malcolmmacaulay</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-499561</link>
		<dc:creator>malcolmmacaulay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;If &quot;Venza&quot; is the number one search word bringing people to the Open Road blog, then you&#039;re not managing your website correctly. When people search for Venza, you should be sending them directly to the Venza microsite, not to the lame &quot;Open Road Blog.&quot;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not quite. A website can&#039;t directly influence the search engine rankings and so cannot dictate which site a person is &quot;directed&quot; to (except via the sponsored links - but who uses those?). 

The website owner can only play by the rules of the search engines. And the general rule with Google is that they&#039;ll decide for themselves how relevant the site is to the searcher. And they&#039;re pretty good at it. And any tricks are likely to get to you blacklisted, like BMW a while back. 

I suspect people end up on the blog simply because it&#039;s been around longer and there has a higher page rank than the microsite. If the microsite is more relevant to Venza then Google will no doubt figure this out, after a while.

cheers

Malcolm</description>
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<blockquote cite="">If &#8220;Venza&#8221; is the number one search word bringing people to the Open Road blog, then you&#8217;re not managing your website correctly. When people search for Venza, you should be sending them directly to the Venza microsite, not to the lame &#8220;Open Road Blog.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Not quite. A website can&#8217;t directly influence the search engine rankings and so cannot dictate which site a person is &#8220;directed&#8221; to (except via the sponsored links &#8211; but who uses those?). </p>
<p>The website owner can only play by the rules of the search engines. And the general rule with Google is that they&#8217;ll decide for themselves how relevant the site is to the searcher. And they&#8217;re pretty good at it. And any tricks are likely to get to you blacklisted, like BMW a while back. </p>
<p>I suspect people end up on the blog simply because it&#8217;s been around longer and there has a higher page rank than the microsite. If the microsite is more relevant to Venza then Google will no doubt figure this out, after a while.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Malcolm<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SunnyvaleCA</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-499541</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyvaleCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Separated at birth?

Audi Q7:
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/audi_q7_36quattro_2008_exterior_4_346x270.jpg

Venza:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/01/zz_09venza_pr001.jpg</description>
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<p>Audi Q7:<br />
<a href="http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/audi_q7_36quattro_2008_exterior_4_346x270.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/audi_q7_36quattro_2008_exterior_4_346&#215;270.jpg</a></p>
<p>Venza:<br />
<a href="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/01/zz_09venza_pr001.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/01/zz_09venza_pr001.jpg</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: danms6</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/between-the-lines-berkowitz-hits-the-toyota-open-road/comment-page-1/#comment-499451</link>
		<dc:creator>danms6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex:

I would like to shake your hand since your comment has made my day.  Blessed be Toyota, forever.</description>
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<p>I would like to shake your hand since your comment has made my day.  Blessed be Toyota, forever.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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