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	<title>Comments on: Bailout Watch 56: Barack Obama and John McCain Offer &#8220;Low Contrast&#8221; Debate</title>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“hybrids and Harleys” initiative

Hmm that is rather odd and sort of counter-intuitive since hybrids are fuel efficient for cars and Harley&#039;s are most definately NOT fuel efficient for motorcycles. I could maybe let the whole American cars only thing slide because they have things in each class even if they are not the best in class. But Harley&#039;s are just cruisers, that&#039;s it. And if you try and squeeze Buell in there you get a little more selection but hardly American made for those models. 

&lt;em&gt;Globalization gives us choices!&lt;/em&gt; 
Not if your running for president, or really any high level office, or your branded as unamerican and unpatriotic if your not about protectionism. Funny how outside of Michigan that doesn&#039;t seem to matter.</description>
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<p>Hmm that is rather odd and sort of counter-intuitive since hybrids are fuel efficient for cars and Harley&#8217;s are most definately NOT fuel efficient for motorcycles. I could maybe let the whole American cars only thing slide because they have things in each class even if they are not the best in class. But Harley&#8217;s are just cruisers, that&#8217;s it. And if you try and squeeze Buell in there you get a little more selection but hardly American made for those models. </p>
<p><em>Globalization gives us choices!</em><br />
Not if your running for president, or really any high level office, or your branded as unamerican and unpatriotic if your not about protectionism. Funny how outside of Michigan that doesn&#8217;t seem to matter.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mekira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mekira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hybrids &amp; Harleys for Obama&quot; allowing only D3 hybrids to ride in their little &quot;parade&quot;...how childish! Don&#039;t they realize that Obama is all about (at least when compared to who&#039;s been in the White House for the past 8 years) building closer ties with the rest of the world. Knock knock--that goes hand in hand with not sounding too anti-trade &amp; &quot;foreign products suck&quot; with our fellow world citizens. This thinking has got to stop (mainly in Michigan)...that just because a car is built by a foreign-based company it has no right to be thought about or mentioned at all. Globalization gives us choices!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Hybrids &amp; Harleys for Obama&#8221; allowing only D3 hybrids to ride in their little &#8220;parade&#8221;&#8230;how childish! Don&#8217;t they realize that Obama is all about (at least when compared to who&#8217;s been in the White House for the past 8 years) building closer ties with the rest of the world. Knock knock&#8211;that goes hand in hand with not sounding too anti-trade &amp; &#8220;foreign products suck&#8221; with our fellow world citizens. This thinking has got to stop (mainly in Michigan)&#8230;that just because a car is built by a foreign-based company it has no right to be thought about or mentioned at all. Globalization gives us choices!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it my imagination, or did he say, &quot;I&#039;m John McCain and I approve this message.&quot; in an exceptionally melodic manner.

That voice tugged at the very heartstrings of my emotional being. Now I have no choice but to vote for the man who thinks that Sarah Palin is qualified to run the White House.

Damn! Where is my Barack flavored Kool-Aid? Wait a sec. This is Hillary flavored. No wonder...

At least I didn&#039;t drink the McKinney Skinny this time. Last time I did that I woke up with three gold capped teeth, a half empty bottle of malt liquor, and a ripped miniskirt.</description>
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<p>That voice tugged at the very heartstrings of my emotional being. Now I have no choice but to vote for the man who thinks that Sarah Palin is qualified to run the White House.</p>
<p>Damn! Where is my Barack flavored Kool-Aid? Wait a sec. This is Hillary flavored. No wonder&#8230;</p>
<p>At least I didn&#8217;t drink the McKinney Skinny this time. Last time I did that I woke up with three gold capped teeth, a half empty bottle of malt liquor, and a ripped miniskirt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But can McCain really win by following his opponent into populist positions? &lt;/i&gt;

Sadly, I&#039;m beginning to think &quot;no&quot;. 

A better line for McCain would be to appeal to those who are current on their cars, houses, and bills. And to those who are in the market for cars and houses and have suffered due to housing &#039;speculators&#039;. 

Of course, there may not be enough of such people in Michigan to win. Which is one more reason (for me) to ignore Detroit products...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>But can McCain really win by following his opponent into populist positions? </i></p>
<p>Sadly, I&#8217;m beginning to think &#8220;no&#8221;. </p>
<p>A better line for McCain would be to appeal to those who are current on their cars, houses, and bills. And to those who are in the market for cars and houses and have suffered due to housing &#8217;speculators&#8217;. </p>
<p>Of course, there may not be enough of such people in Michigan to win. Which is one more reason (for me) to ignore Detroit products&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Is there anything that the 2000 McCain stood for that the 2008 McCain has not flip flopped on?&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m really tired of the term &quot;Flip-flop&quot;.  When did it become a sin to change your mind based on the informed consensus of your team and/or the electorate.  Leadership is not a one-way street.  If George Bush had &quot;flip-flopped&quot; on a certain number of boneheaded moves, the US might not be in quite the straights it&#039;s in right now.

There&#039;s a certain value in being able to say &lt;em&gt;&quot;No, you&#039;re right, we&#039;ll change our position, based on what the people and/or our crack team of analysts think.  Here&#039;s why....&quot;&lt;/em&gt;.  I&#039;d respect a leader that said that.

Of course, this is the same country that gets it&#039;s collective panties in a bunch about what a candidate&#039;s pastor says, won&#039;t vote for someone who seems too smart and well-spoken, or has a significant portion of the electorate who won&#039;t vote for one guy because his name is one letter different from a wanted terrorist&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Is there anything that the 2000 McCain stood for that the 2008 McCain has not flip flopped on?</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m really tired of the term &#8220;Flip-flop&#8221;.  When did it become a sin to change your mind based on the informed consensus of your team and/or the electorate.  Leadership is not a one-way street.  If George Bush had &#8220;flip-flopped&#8221; on a certain number of boneheaded moves, the US might not be in quite the straights it&#8217;s in right now.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a certain value in being able to say <em>&#8220;No, you&#8217;re right, we&#8217;ll change our position, based on what the people and/or our crack team of analysts think.  Here&#8217;s why&#8230;.&#8221;</em>.  I&#8217;d respect a leader that said that.</p>
<p>Of course, this is the same country that gets it&#8217;s collective panties in a bunch about what a candidate&#8217;s pastor says, won&#8217;t vote for someone who seems too smart and well-spoken, or has a significant portion of the electorate who won&#8217;t vote for one guy because his name is one letter different from a wanted terrorist&#8217;s.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Politics as usual. Did anyone expect anything different?

Too bad this guy didn’t get nominated.&lt;/em&gt;

The US badly needs an economic conservative and a green liberal candidate.  Or rather, they such candidates who stand a chance at winning, and Barr (or Ron Paul) and Nader certainly don&#039;t.

I wouldn&#039;t expect meaningful change until a significant number of disenchanted Democratic and Republican candidates are so sick of their current parties that they split off en masse.  But that won&#039;t happen, because the current system is so entrenched and works so well (if you&#039;re a member of it) that there&#039;s no need to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Politics as usual. Did anyone expect anything different?</p>
<p>Too bad this guy didn’t get nominated.</em></p>
<p>The US badly needs an economic conservative and a green liberal candidate.  Or rather, they such candidates who stand a chance at winning, and Barr (or Ron Paul) and Nader certainly don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t expect meaningful change until a significant number of disenchanted Democratic and Republican candidates are so sick of their current parties that they split off en masse.  But that won&#8217;t happen, because the current system is so entrenched and works so well (if you&#8217;re a member of it) that there&#8217;s no need to change.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jkross22</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkross22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engineer:  + 1 for you.

While it&#039;s clear that winning is the #1 priority for both campaigns, there doesn&#039;t appear to be a #2, #3, #4, etc priority list.  They&#039;ll each say whatever they think they need to say to win.  To hell with principle.  

All of these ridiculous marketing taglines about change are all garbage.  As the late, great George Carlin would say, &quot;It&#039;s all bullshit and it&#039;s bad for you&quot;.</description>
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<p>While it&#8217;s clear that winning is the #1 priority for both campaigns, there doesn&#8217;t appear to be a #2, #3, #4, etc priority list.  They&#8217;ll each say whatever they think they need to say to win.  To hell with principle.  </p>
<p>All of these ridiculous marketing taglines about change are all garbage.  As the late, great George Carlin would say, &#8220;It&#8217;s all bullshit and it&#8217;s bad for you&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Qwerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qwerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anything that the 2000 McCain stood for that the 2008 McCain has not flip flopped on?

With the trillion dollar bailout, I cannot wait for &quot;dude&quot; and &quot;bro&quot; to be phased out in favor of &quot;comrade.&quot;  I hope the bread lines won&#039;t be too long in the new USSA.</description>
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<p>With the trillion dollar bailout, I cannot wait for &#8220;dude&#8221; and &#8220;bro&#8221; to be phased out in favor of &#8220;comrade.&#8221;  I hope the bread lines won&#8217;t be too long in the new USSA.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: CarnotCycle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarnotCycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew this would happen! Michigan&#039;s an important state, and Ohio I think also figures into the bail-out calculations at both the pol&#039;s HQs.

Another side-effect of this mortgage disaster is that at this point, sad as it is to say, $50 billion for auto companies would be &quot;in the noise&quot; of the epic bailout planned for the financial firms. It would amount to something like %5 of the trillion (TRILLION!?) dollar tag being sent up the flag pole right now. &quot;Sneaking&quot; fifty billions into that bill for the auto companies, especially with all the votes at stake, suddenly becomes quite palatable I am afraid to all parties (no pun intended) concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I knew this would happen! Michigan&#8217;s an important state, and Ohio I think also figures into the bail-out calculations at both the pol&#8217;s HQs.</p>
<p>Another side-effect of this mortgage disaster is that at this point, sad as it is to say, $50 billion for auto companies would be &#8220;in the noise&#8221; of the epic bailout planned for the financial firms. It would amount to something like %5 of the trillion (TRILLION!?) dollar tag being sent up the flag pole right now. &#8220;Sneaking&#8221; fifty billions into that bill for the auto companies, especially with all the votes at stake, suddenly becomes quite palatable I am afraid to all parties (no pun intended) concerned.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: HarveyBirdman</title>
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		<dc:creator>HarveyBirdman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a breath of fresh air (the write-up, not the presidential campaigns). I can&#039;t hardly turn on the TV without being barraged by ads here in NM. The petty attacks, especially by the candidates&#039; surrogates and 3rd-party PACs, isn&#039;t scoring any points with me as an undecided voter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What a breath of fresh air (the write-up, not the presidential campaigns). I can&#8217;t hardly turn on the TV without being barraged by ads here in NM. The petty attacks, especially by the candidates&#8217; surrogates and 3rd-party PACs, isn&#8217;t scoring any points with me as an undecided voter.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: thalter</title>
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		<dc:creator>thalter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farago/Niedermeyer &#039;08!</description>
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		<title>By: turbosaab</title>
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		<dc:creator>turbosaab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics as usual. Did anyone expect anything different? 

Too bad &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfaORVl0Zg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt; didn&#039;t get nominated.</description>
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<p>Too bad <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcfaORVl0Zg" rel="nofollow">this guy</a> didn&#8217;t get nominated.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write-up, Ed. Who would have thought? TTAC shining the light of truth into politics! Nice job!

Now watch your back. Here comes the Kool-Aid drinkers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice write-up, Ed. Who would have thought? TTAC shining the light of truth into politics! Nice job!</p>
<p>Now watch your back. Here comes the Kool-Aid drinkers&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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