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	<title>Comments on: Bailout Watch 325: GM CEO Rick Wagoner Wants it All, Today</title>
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		<title>By: CamaroKid</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1134771</link>
		<dc:creator>CamaroKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;No one outsources accounting. Accounting outsources you.&lt;/em&gt;

Isn&#039;t that the truth.  

When you consider that most outsourcing is done based on upside down business cases that make ZERO business sense, industry trends (everyone else is outsouring HR so we will to), or something that some CEO read in some in-flight magazine. 

I would LOVE to see some big firm outsource their finance department.  The panic and ripple effects might finally put an end once and for all of all of this outsourcing madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>No one outsources accounting. Accounting outsources you.</em></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that the truth.  </p>
<p>When you consider that most outsourcing is done based on upside down business cases that make ZERO business sense, industry trends (everyone else is outsouring HR so we will to), or something that some CEO read in some in-flight magazine. </p>
<p>I would LOVE to see some big firm outsource their finance department.  The panic and ripple effects might finally put an end once and for all of all of this outsourcing madness.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1133302</link>
		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Did I read that right? GM doesn’t outsource accounting and finance… Given the mess that IS GM accounting and finance… maybe they should.&lt;/em&gt;

No one outsources accounting**.  Accounting outsources you.

** except for small businesses that don&#039;t have accountants to start with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Did I read that right? GM doesn’t outsource accounting and finance… Given the mess that IS GM accounting and finance… maybe they should.</em></p>
<p>No one outsources accounting**.  Accounting outsources you.</p>
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		<title>By: CamaroKid</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1131801</link>
		<dc:creator>CamaroKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;On their side, accounting is one of the few nonunion functions many businesses don’t outsource&lt;/em&gt;

Did I read that right?  GM doesn&#039;t outsource accounting and finance... Given the mess that IS GM accounting and finance... maybe they should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>On their side, accounting is one of the few nonunion functions many businesses don’t outsource</em></p>
<p>Did I read that right?  GM doesn&#8217;t outsource accounting and finance&#8230; Given the mess that IS GM accounting and finance&#8230; maybe they should.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1130781</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s George Will going to work when the NYT, Washington Post, Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune and LA times go broke?

It&#039;s ironic, to say the least, to watch journalists working for insolvent companies like the NYTimes lecture Detroit about not changing with the times.

I agree with Will about 60% of the time, but I&#039;d like him to at least acknowledge that some of his income comes from a company, ABC, that makes its money from what technically belongs to the public, i.e. broadcast frequencies. The government&#039;s even giving out $40 vouchers so that viewers can continue to watch ABC broadcasts after the industry switches to digital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Where&#8217;s George Will going to work when the NYT, Washington Post, Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune and LA times go broke?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic, to say the least, to watch journalists working for insolvent companies like the NYTimes lecture Detroit about not changing with the times.</p>
<p>I agree with Will about 60% of the time, but I&#8217;d like him to at least acknowledge that some of his income comes from a company, ABC, that makes its money from what technically belongs to the public, i.e. broadcast frequencies. The government&#8217;s even giving out $40 vouchers so that viewers can continue to watch ABC broadcasts after the industry switches to digital.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Banned User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1130041</link>
		<dc:creator>Banned User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wagoneer is right, as long as the US government does not become as broke as GM. (looks like China doesn&#039;t want to buy anymore US debt)

&quot;Your Tax Dollars at Work in GMAC 
by George Will&quot; 

http://townhall.com/Columnists/GeorgeWill/2009/01/08/your_tax_dollars_at_work_in_gmac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wagoneer is right, as long as the US government does not become as broke as GM. (looks like China doesn&#8217;t want to buy anymore US debt)</p>
<p>&#8220;Your Tax Dollars at Work in GMAC<br />
by George Will&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://townhall.com/Columnists/GeorgeWill/2009/01/08/your_tax_dollars_at_work_in_gmac" rel="nofollow">http://townhall.com/Columnists/GeorgeWill/2009/01/08/your_tax_dollars_at_work_in_gmac</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TaurusGT500</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1129832</link>
		<dc:creator>TaurusGT500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Gettlefinger hedged on the new labor negotiations Lauer asked G point blank if the UAW was going to reopen the contract.

G said no... then hemmed and hawed about how they&#039;ll just make &quot;modifications.&quot;

... uhhh.... aren&#039;t modifications to a contract  sorta kinda like reopening it?

...and if you  don&#039;t reopen it?  Titanic.  Iceberg.  Ramming Speed.

G gives weasels a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->When Gettlefinger hedged on the new labor negotiations Lauer asked G point blank if the UAW was going to reopen the contract.</p>
<p>G said no&#8230; then hemmed and hawed about how they&#8217;ll just make &#8220;modifications.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; uhhh&#8230;. aren&#8217;t modifications to a contract  sorta kinda like reopening it?</p>
<p>&#8230;and if you  don&#8217;t reopen it?  Titanic.  Iceberg.  Ramming Speed.</p>
<p>G gives weasels a bad name.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unless their accounts are flying out the door (which they might be), it’s tough to understand why they’re hiring so many more accountants. &quot;

$9.4b is a lot of money to count, they obviously need to increase their F&amp;A department to spend it appropriatly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Unless their accounts are flying out the door (which they might be), it’s tough to understand why they’re hiring so many more accountants. &#8221;</p>
<p>$9.4b is a lot of money to count, they obviously need to increase their F&amp;A department to spend it appropriatly!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-325-wagoner-wants-it-all-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1129712</link>
		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, its good to see that GM has moved entirely beyond the financial crisis and has buckled down and gotten to the business of doing exactly what they&#039;ve always done, exactly how they&#039;ve always done it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ah, its good to see that GM has moved entirely beyond the financial crisis and has buckled down and gotten to the business of doing exactly what they&#8217;ve always done, exactly how they&#8217;ve always done it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Unless their accounts are flying out the door (which they might be), it’s tough to understand why they’re hiring so many more accountants.&lt;/i&gt;

Temps and contractors.

Look, would you want to be involved with GM on a long-term basis?  Would you want that on your resume?   

On their side, accounting is one of the few nonunion functions many businesses don&#039;t outsource: IT, HR and Marketing are probably already handed over to other firms, and Logistics/Operations are all lifers, so all you have left, outside of lineworkers, broom pushers and upper-office suits is the beancounters.  And they aren&#039;t going to hire anyone permanently, not with their cashflow.

I always find it funny that, in any company I&#039;ve worked at, F&amp;A is always the last to see it&#039;s functions outsourced.  No, scratch that, I&#039;ve never seen F&amp;A outsourced.  I suspect accountants have no trouble outsourcing others, but can&#039;t bring to do it to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Unless their accounts are flying out the door (which they might be), it’s tough to understand why they’re hiring so many more accountants.</i></p>
<p>Temps and contractors.</p>
<p>Look, would you want to be involved with GM on a long-term basis?  Would you want that on your resume?   </p>
<p>On their side, accounting is one of the few nonunion functions many businesses don&#8217;t outsource: IT, HR and Marketing are probably already handed over to other firms, and Logistics/Operations are all lifers, so all you have left, outside of lineworkers, broom pushers and upper-office suits is the beancounters.  And they aren&#8217;t going to hire anyone permanently, not with their cashflow.</p>
<p>I always find it funny that, in any company I&#8217;ve worked at, F&amp;A is always the last to see it&#8217;s functions outsourced.  No, scratch that, I&#8217;ve never seen F&amp;A outsourced.  I suspect accountants have no trouble outsourcing others, but can&#8217;t bring to do it to themselves.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jkross22</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkross22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Rick sure is funny.  Could Middlefinger contain himself at hearing that?  

GM has a total of 56 open jobs posted on their website.  Of those, 36 are finance and accounting jobs.  

Unless their accounts are flying out the door (which they might be), it&#039;s tough to understand why they&#039;re hiring so many more accountants.  

This is the stuff that should be scrutinized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That Rick sure is funny.  Could Middlefinger contain himself at hearing that?  </p>
<p>GM has a total of 56 open jobs posted on their website.  Of those, 36 are finance and accounting jobs.  </p>
<p>Unless their accounts are flying out the door (which they might be), it&#8217;s tough to understand why they&#8217;re hiring so many more accountants.  </p>
<p>This is the stuff that should be scrutinized.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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