Comments on: Bailout Watch 240: Rick And Alan Not Getting On The Bus http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:34:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rix http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-986512 Rix Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:23:02 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-986512 If Wagoner flies to the hearings on Private jets, then GM will not get a dime. I expect that he will fly to Baltimore, get into the back of a Malibu hybrid, and drive the last hour into DC. Then he can claim he drove in a hybrid. If Wagoner flies to the hearings on Private jets, then GM will not get a dime. I expect that he will fly to Baltimore, get into the back of a Malibu hybrid, and drive the last hour into DC. Then he can claim he drove in a hybrid.

]]> By: Gforce http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-986412 Gforce Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:02:51 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-986412 I can Imagine those CEO's PA's frantically trying to get in touch with Lexus for the ride to Washington. I can Imagine those CEO’s PA’s frantically trying to get in touch with Lexus for the ride to Washington.

]]> By: Stu Sidoti http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-985832 Stu Sidoti Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:15:32 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-985832 Oh boy....this might get gooooooood. Remember when GM posted-up those 'Make Your Own GM Ad Videos'? During that 'campaign' so many anti-GM folks were able to just slay them with tongue-in-cheek ads that made some serious fun of GM and it all turned out to be a marketing and PR disaster on a royal scale. Yeah buddy, the only thing 'grassroots' on this little caravan will be the protesters-they'll be grassroots and if they get a voice and camera-time on the national news or blogs this will be a PR nightmare that will make them wish they had flown in on gold-plated jets instead of taking some potentially HUGE lumps on the 'caravan'...This could get ugly in a hurry. Oh boy….this might get gooooooood. Remember when GM posted-up those ‘Make Your Own GM Ad Videos’? During that ‘campaign’ so many anti-GM folks were able to just slay them with tongue-in-cheek ads that made some serious fun of GM and it all turned out to be a marketing and PR disaster on a royal scale.
Yeah buddy, the only thing ‘grassroots’ on this little caravan will be the protesters-they’ll be grassroots and if they get a voice and camera-time on the national news or blogs this will be a PR nightmare that will make them wish they had flown in on gold-plated jets instead of taking some potentially HUGE lumps on the ‘caravan’…This could get ugly in a hurry.

]]> By: quasimondo http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-985442 quasimondo Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:24:24 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-985442 <em>If Rick flies in by jet, he will NSFW himself AND GM. The emphasis on Wagoner’s “security needs” is also doing him no service. He’s the CEO of a car company, not a head of state. At least in reality.</em> Georges Besse If Rick flies in by jet, he will NSFW himself AND GM. The emphasis on Wagoner’s “security needs” is also doing him no service. He’s the CEO of a car company, not a head of state. At least in reality.

Georges Besse

]]> By: windswords http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-985181 windswords Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:25:19 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-985181 jgholt: The big difference in the TV "on the street interview" and the radio show is you have to call the radio show. They won't call you. They don't you're out there. Sure some who call radio shows are frothing at the mouth loons, but it's the call screeners job to decide if he wants to put them on the air or not. With TV they seek you out. And they know the crazier you are the more entertaining it will be on the broadcast. Even on a blog such as this you have to be proactive and post. Even though you get some crazies to post the shear volume makes it easy to filter them out from more 'normal' opinions. jgholt:

The big difference in the TV “on the street interview” and the radio show is you have to call the radio show. They won’t call you. They don’t you’re out there. Sure some who call radio shows are frothing at the mouth loons, but it’s the call screeners job to decide if he wants to put them on the air or not. With TV they seek you out. And they know the crazier you are the more entertaining it will be on the broadcast.

Even on a blog such as this you have to be proactive and post. Even though you get some crazies to post the shear volume makes it easy to filter them out from more ‘normal’ opinions.

]]> By: 1996MEdition http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984881 1996MEdition Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:03:26 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984881 jgholt: or anyone that has a blog? jgholt:

or anyone that has a blog?

]]> By: jgh http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984722 jgh Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:27:28 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984722 <em>"...as too-often-lazy TV journalists like to find the fattest, dumbest protesters and get them to say something stupid or offensive on camera."</em> Ain't that the truth. Ditto for any person that calls into a radio show. “…as too-often-lazy TV journalists like to find the fattest, dumbest protesters and get them to say something stupid or offensive on camera.”

Ain’t that the truth. Ditto for any person that calls into a radio show.

]]> By: hitman1970 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984561 hitman1970 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:59:38 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984561 The last thing the Big 3 need is some angry UAW workers throwing bricks through the endless Camry hybrid taxi cabs and Toyota Priuses covering the capital area on camera. The last thing the Big 3 need is some angry UAW workers throwing bricks through the endless Camry hybrid taxi cabs and Toyota Priuses covering the capital area on camera.

]]> By: chuckgoolsbee http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984341 chuckgoolsbee Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:15:49 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984341 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing" rel="nofollow">Grassroots?</a> C'mon, we're not THAT stupid. --chuck Grassroots? C’mon, we’re not THAT stupid.

–chuck

]]> By: Stingray http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984231 Stingray Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:52:16 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984231 @RF Oh you can't be serious... he's head of GM state. @RF

Oh you can’t be serious… he’s head of GM state.

]]> By: 1996MEdition http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984202 1996MEdition Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:44:21 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984202 "fuel efficient American vehicles" You mean like Civics built in Indiana? Corollas built in California? Camrys built in Kentucky? Ironically, it would be much more fuel efficient for them all to charter a commercial jet. “fuel efficient American vehicles”

You mean like Civics built in Indiana? Corollas built in California? Camrys built in Kentucky?

Ironically, it would be much more fuel efficient for them all to charter a commercial jet.

]]> By: Sherman Lin http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984142 Sherman Lin Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:27:51 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984142 OHHH hopefully I will see some of the same one dimensional self centered Michigan centric xenophobic delusional arguments I see posted on the Detroit News on a daily basis. Maybe they can further alienate the nation by equating GM with America and Toyota with asia, boldly claiming that domestic cars are every bit as reliable as foreign makes, while downplaying and denigrating southern autoworkers and southern auto plants. OHHH hopefully I will see some of the same one dimensional self centered Michigan centric xenophobic delusional arguments I see posted on the Detroit News on a daily basis. Maybe they can further alienate the nation by equating GM with America and Toyota with asia, boldly claiming that domestic cars are every bit as reliable as foreign makes, while downplaying and denigrating southern autoworkers and southern auto plants.

]]> By: windswords http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984102 windswords Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:20:37 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984102 Couple points: Nardelli and company are the only ones who have pledged to do anything remotely looking like sacrifice - he said he would do the $1 a year salary, and Cerberus publicly, for the record, stated that they will not profit from the bailout when or if they sell Chrysler or spin it off as an IPO. You can be cynical about this but they are on the record. Alan and Rick? (crickets chirping). “arm everyone with a short list of facts so they can speak intelligently on camera, as too-often-lazy TV journalists like to find the fattest, dumbest protesters and get them to say something stupid or offensive on camera.” Ain't that the truth. It was a mistake for Chrysler to get rid of Vines. Couple points:

Nardelli and company are the only ones who have pledged to do anything remotely looking like sacrifice – he said he would do the $1 a year salary, and Cerberus publicly, for the record, stated that they will not profit from the bailout when or if they sell Chrysler or spin it off as an IPO. You can be cynical about this but they are on the record. Alan and Rick? (crickets chirping).

“arm everyone with a short list of facts so they can speak intelligently on camera, as too-often-lazy TV journalists like to find the fattest, dumbest protesters and get them to say something stupid or offensive on camera.”

Ain’t that the truth.

It was a mistake for Chrysler to get rid of Vines.

]]> By: Paul Niedermeyer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984031 Paul Niedermeyer Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:03:48 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984031 Need a photo of Furthur. Need a photo of Furthur.

]]> By: Oldsmoboi http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-984001 Oldsmoboi Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:54:05 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-984001 It actually started on Cheers and Gears. http://www.cheersandgears.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=26710&view=findpost&p=447300 It actually started on Cheers and Gears.

http://www.cheersandgears.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=26710&view=findpost&p=447300

]]> By: Robert Farago http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-240-rick-and-alan-not-getting-on-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-983872 Robert Farago Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:19:12 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=165642#comment-983872 If Rick flies in by jet, he will NSFW himself AND GM. The emphasis on Wagoner's "security needs" is also doing him no service. He's the CEO of a car company, not a head of state. At least in reality. If Rick flies in by jet, he will NSFW himself AND GM. The emphasis on Wagoner’s “security needs” is also doing him no service. He’s the CEO of a car company, not a head of state. At least in reality.

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