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	<title>Comments on: Bailout Watch 225: Report from the ChryCo Cryfest</title>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-225-report-from-the-chryco-cryfest/comment-page-1/#comment-1007191</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep it was. Amazing how much denial of reality they have. It&#039;s no wonder corporate America is in the condition it is in if a majority of it&#039;s leaders are like this. 

We&#039;re in a race to the bottom. The whole folks have to earn enough to buy your products thing. Ship jobs to some foreign land and all that is left is a service industry where a handful of people make a good living while too many make $8 an hour. How about balancing the tables a little. Eliminating some greed. Make the line from the top level pay to the entry level pay a little flatter. I&#039;m all for making lots of money with minimum gov&#039;t interference but it&#039;s beginning to look a little like the 3rd world countries where we have an elite wealthy class and a working class making small money and very little in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yep it was. Amazing how much denial of reality they have. It&#8217;s no wonder corporate America is in the condition it is in if a majority of it&#8217;s leaders are like this. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re in a race to the bottom. The whole folks have to earn enough to buy your products thing. Ship jobs to some foreign land and all that is left is a service industry where a handful of people make a good living while too many make $8 an hour. How about balancing the tables a little. Eliminating some greed. Make the line from the top level pay to the entry level pay a little flatter. I&#8217;m all for making lots of money with minimum gov&#8217;t interference but it&#8217;s beginning to look a little like the 3rd world countries where we have an elite wealthy class and a working class making small money and very little in between.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Wulv</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-225-report-from-the-chryco-cryfest/comment-page-1/#comment-1001361</link>
		<dc:creator>Wulv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The D 2.8 love to quote about losing heavy industry when they themselves are guilty of outsourcing how much? Wasn&#039;t Chrysler about to ship all their parts manufacturing overseas to India or China if they couldn&#039;t get costs down locally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The D 2.8 love to quote about losing heavy industry when they themselves are guilty of outsourcing how much? Wasn&#8217;t Chrysler about to ship all their parts manufacturing overseas to India or China if they couldn&#8217;t get costs down locally?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: menno</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-225-report-from-the-chryco-cryfest/comment-page-1/#comment-1000402</link>
		<dc:creator>menno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Boeing?  Isn&#039;t that considered heavy industry?  

Freightliner trucks?  Paccar?  

Anyone else have any answers?  Bueller?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What about Boeing?  Isn&#8217;t that considered heavy industry?  </p>
<p>Freightliner trucks?  Paccar?  </p>
<p>Anyone else have any answers?  Bueller?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: menno</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-225-report-from-the-chryco-cryfest/comment-page-1/#comment-1000401</link>
		<dc:creator>menno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;autos are the only heavy industry&quot;

Right.  So, that roll of steel that I saw at the AMERICAN factory near Montgomery Alabama (Hyundai) which said &quot;US Steel&quot; on the side; that was my imagination, right, Jim?  You know, the plant built by the company that DaimlerChrysler used to own 10% of; Hyundai.  That company, which DaimlerChrysler pissed off so badly that Hyundai demanded that they buy back their 10%.  At about the same time that DumblerCry-slur yanked the rug from under their &quot;partner&quot; Mitsubishi.  

Kizmet (paybacks) are a bi-atch, ain&#039;t they, Jim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;autos are the only heavy industry&#8221;</p>
<p>Right.  So, that roll of steel that I saw at the AMERICAN factory near Montgomery Alabama (Hyundai) which said &#8220;US Steel&#8221; on the side; that was my imagination, right, Jim?  You know, the plant built by the company that DaimlerChrysler used to own 10% of; Hyundai.  That company, which DaimlerChrysler pissed off so badly that Hyundai demanded that they buy back their 10%.  At about the same time that DumblerCry-slur yanked the rug from under their &#8220;partner&#8221; Mitsubishi.  </p>
<p>Kizmet (paybacks) are a bi-atch, ain&#8217;t they, Jim?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Puthuff</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-225-report-from-the-chryco-cryfest/comment-page-1/#comment-999582</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Puthuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;autos are the only heavy industry&lt;/em&gt;

Please. Stop spewing BS, Jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>autos are the only heavy industry</em></p>
<p>Please. Stop spewing BS, Jim.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pls</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-225-report-from-the-chryco-cryfest/comment-page-1/#comment-999522</link>
		<dc:creator>pls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been flying bankrupt airlines for a couple of years now.  I&#039;m OK with that because of the regulation and knowledge that they are legitimately restructuring (so they can&#039;t afford to kill off the future customer base).  With the airlines I see their plan.

As opposed to the D2.8, which I think we all agree won&#039;t survive as is.  I think the CEOs all have the ch11 thing backwards - if they would go on and do it and show me a viable plan I might consider buying from them.  Since they have spent so much time lately telling the nation how not viable they are why would anyone buy now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve been flying bankrupt airlines for a couple of years now.  I&#8217;m OK with that because of the regulation and knowledge that they are legitimately restructuring (so they can&#8217;t afford to kill off the future customer base).  With the airlines I see their plan.</p>
<p>As opposed to the D2.8, which I think we all agree won&#8217;t survive as is.  I think the CEOs all have the ch11 thing backwards &#8211; if they would go on and do it and show me a viable plan I might consider buying from them.  Since they have spent so much time lately telling the nation how not viable they are why would anyone buy now?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: andyinsdca</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyinsdca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@montgomery burns: 

The difference between an airline that went BK and a car company that went BK is that when you get off the airplane and get your (hopefully non-lost) suitcase, you&#039;re done with the transaction. Airplanes rarely crash.

If you buy a car and the company goes BK, where are you going to get parts? Sure, there will be some in the pipeline still, but what happens in a few years when the radiator goes? Cars break down all the time. A minivan or a generic sedan isn&#039;t the same as a classic Mustang/T-Bird/Vette that has specialty shops making parts for them.</description>
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<p>The difference between an airline that went BK and a car company that went BK is that when you get off the airplane and get your (hopefully non-lost) suitcase, you&#8217;re done with the transaction. Airplanes rarely crash.</p>
<p>If you buy a car and the company goes BK, where are you going to get parts? Sure, there will be some in the pipeline still, but what happens in a few years when the radiator goes? Cars break down all the time. A minivan or a generic sedan isn&#8217;t the same as a classic Mustang/T-Bird/Vette that has specialty shops making parts for them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JK43123</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK43123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how a one-year-old company made my 18 year old Dakota.....

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Funny how a one-year-old company made my 18 year old Dakota&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: tulsa_97sr5</title>
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		<dc:creator>tulsa_97sr5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@Edward Niedermeyer : 
 Anyone else think that $200/bb quote is worthy of a Lutzie nomination?&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s got to get him in the running, but I can&#039;t see Bob giving up his title that easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>@Edward Niedermeyer :<br />
 Anyone else think that $200/bb quote is worthy of a Lutzie nomination?</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s got to get him in the running, but I can&#8217;t see Bob giving up his title that easy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: montgomery burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>montgomery burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;we&#039;re an new company&quot; really is &quot;don&#039;t blame us for this mess, it was the other guys&quot;. A favorite tactic in corporate America.

One thing that puzzles me about BK though. Do people really not care if an airline goes through BK, as has been mentioned a few times? After all you are putting your life on the line there versus having a problem getting (unlikely) a power steering pump for your minivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The &#8220;we&#8217;re an new company&#8221; really is &#8220;don&#8217;t blame us for this mess, it was the other guys&#8221;. A favorite tactic in corporate America.</p>
<p>One thing that puzzles me about BK though. Do people really not care if an airline goes through BK, as has been mentioned a few times? After all you are putting your life on the line there versus having a problem getting (unlikely) a power steering pump for your minivan.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Edward Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to blog this, Steve. Anyone else think that $200/bb quote is worthy of a Lutzie nomination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks for taking the time to blog this, Steve. Anyone else think that $200/bb quote is worthy of a Lutzie nomination?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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