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	<title>Comments on: Bailout Watch 167: Pelosi: Don&#8217;t Worry, Be Generous</title>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-167-pelosi-dont-worry-be-generous/comment-page-1/#comment-959512</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay cancel CAFE rules. Do you really think people will line up to buy expensive trucks when this past summer we paid $4+ per gallon of gasoline? Are you certain we won&#039;t be paying it next summer too? I&#039;m not. 

When I buy a vehicle I expect I&#039;ll own it for 5-10 years so I buy a vehicle I&#039;ll try to be happy with for 5-10 years. I also try to buy one I can afford to fuel for the next decade as well. I expect in a decade we&#039;ll be paying alot more than $4 per gallon. 

Call me crazy but gas prices are low because the oil industry is trying to lure their addicts (us) back to the pumps more often. Once we&#039;re back with our 18 mpg family hauler prices will resume their climb. 

CAFE will accomplish what economics will do naturally later - push people into more frugal vehicles. Except Detroit&#039;s business model doesn&#039;t allow a profit on small cars b/c of too much overhead. Oh shit - now what? Lobby for lower CAFE requirements. Just overlook the rising Chinese and Indian lifestyles. Just overlook the fact that despite Al Gore&#039;s poor leadership IMHO we may have a pollution problem in the near future. Forget the we are consuming the earth&#039;s resources faster every year. Forget that the modern American (and other first world countries) suburban lifestyle is likely unsustainable without using up our resources and damaging our environment. 

If the car makers can&#039;t cope then they are much less imaginative than I thought possible. This is the part of the history books where the American influence begins to shrink. This is the part where we have to acknowledge the ride was fun but it is about over now and it&#039;s time to get back to work. This is part where the large vehicle good-ole-boy American my parts are bigger than yours as you can see by the size of my truck and the bull testicles hanging under my rear bumper is over and we have to learn to be clever and imaginative all over again. How do we live in our cities, farm thousands of acres, haul freight, and keep the lights on without consuming thousands of gasolines of oil every minute?

We don&#039;t have to go back to the 19th century or anything but we have to acknowledge that the easy living can&#039;t go on forever. If we don&#039;t we&#039;ll wake up one morning in the 19th century. 

Long live Detroit if they can bear to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Okay cancel CAFE rules. Do you really think people will line up to buy expensive trucks when this past summer we paid $4+ per gallon of gasoline? Are you certain we won&#8217;t be paying it next summer too? I&#8217;m not. </p>
<p>When I buy a vehicle I expect I&#8217;ll own it for 5-10 years so I buy a vehicle I&#8217;ll try to be happy with for 5-10 years. I also try to buy one I can afford to fuel for the next decade as well. I expect in a decade we&#8217;ll be paying alot more than $4 per gallon. </p>
<p>Call me crazy but gas prices are low because the oil industry is trying to lure their addicts (us) back to the pumps more often. Once we&#8217;re back with our 18 mpg family hauler prices will resume their climb. </p>
<p>CAFE will accomplish what economics will do naturally later &#8211; push people into more frugal vehicles. Except Detroit&#8217;s business model doesn&#8217;t allow a profit on small cars b/c of too much overhead. Oh shit &#8211; now what? Lobby for lower CAFE requirements. Just overlook the rising Chinese and Indian lifestyles. Just overlook the fact that despite Al Gore&#8217;s poor leadership IMHO we may have a pollution problem in the near future. Forget the we are consuming the earth&#8217;s resources faster every year. Forget that the modern American (and other first world countries) suburban lifestyle is likely unsustainable without using up our resources and damaging our environment. </p>
<p>If the car makers can&#8217;t cope then they are much less imaginative than I thought possible. This is the part of the history books where the American influence begins to shrink. This is the part where we have to acknowledge the ride was fun but it is about over now and it&#8217;s time to get back to work. This is part where the large vehicle good-ole-boy American my parts are bigger than yours as you can see by the size of my truck and the bull testicles hanging under my rear bumper is over and we have to learn to be clever and imaginative all over again. How do we live in our cities, farm thousands of acres, haul freight, and keep the lights on without consuming thousands of gasolines of oil every minute?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have to go back to the 19th century or anything but we have to acknowledge that the easy living can&#8217;t go on forever. If we don&#8217;t we&#8217;ll wake up one morning in the 19th century. </p>
<p>Long live Detroit if they can bear to survive.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-167-pelosi-dont-worry-be-generous/comment-page-1/#comment-942781</link>
		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the whole &quot;green&quot; jobs thing. The medicine may be worse than the disease. Here is an idea: Save the jobs by canceling CAFE. Let GM make trucks with V8&#039;s. If they can get out of their contracts through bankruptcy, then they could downsize into a company that only made what is profitable for them to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I love the whole &#8220;green&#8221; jobs thing. The medicine may be worse than the disease. Here is an idea: Save the jobs by canceling CAFE. Let GM make trucks with V8&#8217;s. If they can get out of their contracts through bankruptcy, then they could downsize into a company that only made what is profitable for them to make.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-167-pelosi-dont-worry-be-generous/comment-page-1/#comment-942691</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juniper : 

Pelosi&#039;s website. Don&#039;t have the link handy. Madness. Must dash.</description>
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<p>Pelosi&#8217;s website. Don&#8217;t have the link handy. Madness. Must dash.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Juniper</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-167-pelosi-dont-worry-be-generous/comment-page-1/#comment-942651</link>
		<dc:creator>Juniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NN
read the third paragraph.

RF
Source?</description>
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read the third paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: NN</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-167-pelosi-dont-worry-be-generous/comment-page-1/#comment-942042</link>
		<dc:creator>NN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than the standard reflection of TARP principles on executive compensation and equity stakes; there is absolutely nothing recommended or said in this letter other than &quot;bail them out&quot;.  They really are pushing to use our taxpayer money to maintain the status quo; i.e. money down the drain after a failed business structure.  Even if they pushed for ultra left measures such as coverage of all automaker healthcare costs, it would be something, an idea, that would at least open a discussion and provide a glimmer of hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Other than the standard reflection of TARP principles on executive compensation and equity stakes; there is absolutely nothing recommended or said in this letter other than &#8220;bail them out&#8221;.  They really are pushing to use our taxpayer money to maintain the status quo; i.e. money down the drain after a failed business structure.  Even if they pushed for ultra left measures such as coverage of all automaker healthcare costs, it would be something, an idea, that would at least open a discussion and provide a glimmer of hope.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Rday</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bailout-watch-167-pelosi-dont-worry-be-generous/comment-page-1/#comment-941752</link>
		<dc:creator>Rday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like they want to keep all of them blue collar UAW jobs while making the car industry &#039;competitive&#039;. What an oxymoron! You can have one or the other. But not both. So which one is it Nancy? I think we all know the answer to that one. Look for more and more domestic new cars piling up in storage lots throughout the country. If you have large parking spaces to rent out, you could make some real money. And oh, that bailout, it will have to be replenished each year because these government types don&#039;t understand competitive business models. Anyone want to guess how long this program will last and how much federal funds will be spent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Seems like they want to keep all of them blue collar UAW jobs while making the car industry &#8216;competitive&#8217;. What an oxymoron! You can have one or the other. But not both. So which one is it Nancy? I think we all know the answer to that one. Look for more and more domestic new cars piling up in storage lots throughout the country. If you have large parking spaces to rent out, you could make some real money. And oh, that bailout, it will have to be replenished each year because these government types don&#8217;t understand competitive business models. Anyone want to guess how long this program will last and how much federal funds will be spent?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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