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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Andy D: Changing a flat tire on the edge of a busy roadside. &lt;/i&gt;

I have driven 20 miles on a flat and while it is possible just be sure that you have no other alternatives. It ruined the tire, the rim and soon after the wheel bearings failed. 

The situation was a hot summer day in southern Italy during the siesta hours (a great idea for coping with the summer heat). Tire went flat. Wasn&#039;t much of a tire anymore anyhow with the cords showing through but I was young, dumb and making the most of everything. I stopped to change it but the spare was flat too - though new in appearance it did not contain air. An option that year? Drove home about 20 miles slowly and survived to tell about it. 

Tire remains were smoking!</description>
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<p>I have driven 20 miles on a flat and while it is possible just be sure that you have no other alternatives. It ruined the tire, the rim and soon after the wheel bearings failed. </p>
<p>The situation was a hot summer day in southern Italy during the siesta hours (a great idea for coping with the summer heat). Tire went flat. Wasn&#8217;t much of a tire anymore anyhow with the cords showing through but I was young, dumb and making the most of everything. I stopped to change it but the spare was flat too &#8211; though new in appearance it did not contain air. An option that year? Drove home about 20 miles slowly and survived to tell about it. </p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1121032</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos.negros:

It&#039;s hard for me to argue over teh name as I don&#039;t believe in &quot;natural selection&quot; (call me a heretic).  But, I believe the only story where the winners were identified as drunk were the criminally stupid individuals who moved the barriers away from the trenching in the road.  In the other events listed, the victims did not really deserve what they got, but in the case of the ranch hands, I think they did deserve what they got.  They thought it would be funny to create a deadly situation and then paid for it with their own lives.  Seems fair to me.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to argue over teh name as I don&#8217;t believe in &#8220;natural selection&#8221; (call me a heretic).  But, I believe the only story where the winners were identified as drunk were the criminally stupid individuals who moved the barriers away from the trenching in the road.  In the other events listed, the victims did not really deserve what they got, but in the case of the ranch hands, I think they did deserve what they got.  They thought it would be funny to create a deadly situation and then paid for it with their own lives.  Seems fair to me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rclark48</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the tire as a winch, check here http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7007928/claims.html or here http://www.bushwinch.com.au/testimonials.html to see real (no pun intended) wheel winches.

It does not detract from the ultimate stupidity of the award winner. </description>
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		<title>By: carlos.negros</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1119152</link>
		<dc:creator>carlos.negros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point, Lunbergh21. I actually wanted to retract that Calvinist point but it was too late.

I think I was mainly referring to the way Calvinism attributes all events to part of God&#039;s plan. So when he hear about people getting killed for doing stupid things we somehow want to believe they deserve it.

Back to the Darwin thing, I don&#039;t think having a car accident due to driving drunk necessarily cleans out the gene pool.

I think Darwin would argue that someone who had a random mutatation that allowed him to safely drive drunk would be naturally selected to live.  That person would not be any better in terms of the gene pool than the guy who can&#039;t drive after one beer, unless we lived in an environment where people had to drive after drinking and that gene mutation gave him an advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Fair point, Lunbergh21. I actually wanted to retract that Calvinist point but it was too late.</p>
<p>I think I was mainly referring to the way Calvinism attributes all events to part of God&#8217;s plan. So when he hear about people getting killed for doing stupid things we somehow want to believe they deserve it.</p>
<p>Back to the Darwin thing, I don&#8217;t think having a car accident due to driving drunk necessarily cleans out the gene pool.</p>
<p>I think Darwin would argue that someone who had a random mutatation that allowed him to safely drive drunk would be naturally selected to live.  That person would not be any better in terms of the gene pool than the guy who can&#8217;t drive after one beer, unless we lived in an environment where people had to drive after drinking and that gene mutation gave him an advantage.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As a antidote to the Darwin awards, (which should probably be named the Calvinist Awards, since they perpetuate the myth that people get what they deserve - whereas Darwin’s theories were based on mutation and natural selection)&lt;/em&gt;

In a just world people would always get what they deserved.  Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately for some) this isn&#039;t a just world.  Also, I don&#039;t see how this ideal is Calvinist.  Calvin undoubtedly thought that people ultimately get what they deserve, but most likely after death, not in this world.

Darwin makes perfect sense as a name.  The idea that stupid people are removed from the gene pool fits in nicely with natural selection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>As a antidote to the Darwin awards, (which should probably be named the Calvinist Awards, since they perpetuate the myth that people get what they deserve &#8211; whereas Darwin’s theories were based on mutation and natural selection)</em></p>
<p>In a just world people would always get what they deserved.  Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately for some) this isn&#8217;t a just world.  Also, I don&#8217;t see how this ideal is Calvinist.  Calvin undoubtedly thought that people ultimately get what they deserve, but most likely after death, not in this world.</p>
<p>Darwin makes perfect sense as a name.  The idea that stupid people are removed from the gene pool fits in nicely with natural selection.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I suprised no one managed to kill themselves Ghost-Riding in the past year.

&lt;/em&gt;Someone did here; so, I&#039;m sure it happened elsewhere as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I suprised no one managed to kill themselves Ghost-Riding in the past year.</p>
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		<title>By: beken</title>
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		<dc:creator>beken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...other than the vehicle in question not being mentioned in the telephone line burying story, the rest of them all involved trucks/SUVs.  Was that intentional?</description>
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		<title>By: JTParts</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTParts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a customer working alone on a Fiat X19. He was under the car supported only by a floor jack. The jack let go pinning this guys head between the floor and the suspension. When he regained consciousness (he is a one man operation) he was able to free himself by pumping the jack with his leg. When he was telling me this, he said &quot;after the first time I NEVER THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN&gt;&quot; !!!!</description>
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		<title>By: carlisimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlisimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alsadius, I&#039;ve worked in construction and we had trenching going on all the time.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a time and a place for drilling though.

The Cayenne one was my favorite (the ranch hands too).  The others were sad - I hate mistakes like that to be paid for in blood, but running towards a train and falling into your own deadly trap aren&#039;t mere oversights.</description>
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<p>The Cayenne one was my favorite (the ranch hands too).  The others were sad &#8211; I hate mistakes like that to be paid for in blood, but running towards a train and falling into your own deadly trap aren&#8217;t mere oversights.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Alsadius</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1115642</link>
		<dc:creator>Alsadius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one about the road being dug up to lay cable rings false to me - I&#039;ve worked for power companies before, they don&#039;t dig up roads to lay underground cable, they drill a hole and run cable directly underground without interfering with anything. It&#039;s way too expensive to have to rebuild a road when you&#039;re done. 

Also, willbodine, the .22 bullet used as a fuse is false - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-04.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&#039;s on the DA site&lt;/a&gt; as an urban legend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The one about the road being dug up to lay cable rings false to me &#8211; I&#8217;ve worked for power companies before, they don&#8217;t dig up roads to lay underground cable, they drill a hole and run cable directly underground without interfering with anything. It&#8217;s way too expensive to have to rebuild a road when you&#8217;re done. </p>
<p>Also, willbodine, the .22 bullet used as a fuse is false &#8211; <a href="http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-04.html" rel="nofollow">it&#8217;s on the DA site</a> as an urban legend.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: carlos.negros</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos.negros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I&#039;ll read it. Just don&#039;t read my comments?</description>
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		<title>By: ktm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then don&#039;t read it?</description>
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		<title>By: carlos.negros</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos.negros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that I am uncomfortable with the notion of deriving pleasure from another&#039;s death.

As a antidote to the Darwin awards, (which should probably be named the Calvinist Awards, since they perpetuate the myth that people get what they deserve - whereas Darwin&#039;s theories were based on mutation and natural selection); I would offer the story by the Nobel prize winning novelist, Issac Bashevis Singer, titled &quot;Gimpel the Fool.&quot; http://www3.telus.net/Gimpel_Family/Gimpelthefool.html

In this story, a person who is considered and played for a fool ends up being more of a human being than those who found pleasure in his failures.

We are all humans and all humans make mistakes. I can find no pleasure in the grizzly death of another person, even if he or she made a tragic miscalculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I guess that I am uncomfortable with the notion of deriving pleasure from another&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>As a antidote to the Darwin awards, (which should probably be named the Calvinist Awards, since they perpetuate the myth that people get what they deserve &#8211; whereas Darwin&#8217;s theories were based on mutation and natural selection); I would offer the story by the Nobel prize winning novelist, Issac Bashevis Singer, titled &#8220;Gimpel the Fool.&#8221; <a href="http://www3.telus.net/Gimpel_Family/Gimpelthefool.html" rel="nofollow">http://www3.telus.net/Gimpel_Family/Gimpelthefool.html</a></p>
<p>In this story, a person who is considered and played for a fool ends up being more of a human being than those who found pleasure in his failures.</p>
<p>We are all humans and all humans make mistakes. I can find no pleasure in the grizzly death of another person, even if he or she made a tragic miscalculation.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The JATO  Chevy  maybe an urban legend   but  there was  a  You tube a while back  of  a Californian who put  a jet  engine into  a new beetle. So  its  only a matter  of  time</description>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although not current, I nominate this one for Hall of Fame status:

In 2003, a 27 year-old French woman lost control of her car on a highway near Marseilles and crashed into a tree, seriously injuring her passenger and killing herself. As a commonplace road accident, this would not have qualified for a Darwin nomination, were it not for the fact that the driver&#039;s attention had been distracted by her Tamagotchi key ring, which had started urgently beeping for food as she drove along. In an attempt to press the correct buttons to save the Tamagotchi&#039;s life, the woman lost her own.</description>
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<p>In 2003, a 27 year-old French woman lost control of her car on a highway near Marseilles and crashed into a tree, seriously injuring her passenger and killing herself. As a commonplace road accident, this would not have qualified for a Darwin nomination, were it not for the fact that the driver&#8217;s attention had been distracted by her Tamagotchi key ring, which had started urgently beeping for food as she drove along. In an attempt to press the correct buttons to save the Tamagotchi&#8217;s life, the woman lost her own.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great article...  Made me think in some interesting ways...

My ironic thought of the day:

Rick Wagoner is the most qualified man to be president over the next four years.  Barak should find a way to make him at least VP.

GM is just a mirror image of the problems with the entire economy/federal governemtn and Rick has managed to avoid losing his job and bankruptcy against all odds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A great article&#8230;  Made me think in some interesting ways&#8230;</p>
<p>My ironic thought of the day:</p>
<p>Rick Wagoner is the most qualified man to be president over the next four years.  Barak should find a way to make him at least VP.</p>
<p>GM is just a mirror image of the problems with the entire economy/federal governemtn and Rick has managed to avoid losing his job and bankruptcy against all odds.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>willbodine,

I think that might qualify as an Honorable Mention with the Darwin folks. This guy only got the job half done and he got an Honorable Mention:

http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1998-10.html</description>
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<p>I think that might qualify as an Honorable Mention with the Darwin folks. This guy only got the job half done and he got an Honorable Mention:</p>
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		<title>By: willbodine</title>
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		<dc:creator>willbodine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gene pool is definitely the better off without these yo-yos. But the stories this year don&#039;t come close to the all-time champs last year. Google: pick-up, Arkansas, froggers, fuses, and 22 cartridges. (Interestingly, that winner didn&#039;t kill himself, but he effectively purged himself from the gene pool.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The gene pool is definitely the better off without these yo-yos. But the stories this year don&#8217;t come close to the all-time champs last year. Google: pick-up, Arkansas, froggers, fuses, and 22 cartridges. (Interestingly, that winner didn&#8217;t kill himself, but he effectively purged himself from the gene pool.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The axle-winch reminds me of the scene from Predator when the guerillas are using a truck as a generator, only to have Arnie pop it off the blocks and send it careening into the base in a fireball of righteous action-film destruction.</description>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1114681</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50merc,

Just to be clear. The Darwin Awards site that you linked to says that the JATO story is an urban legend and that it&#039;s been &quot;Confirmed Bogus by Darwin URBAN LEGEND!&quot;, lest people think that the DA folks are perpetuating a myth.</description>
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<p>Just to be clear. The Darwin Awards site that you linked to says that the JATO story is an urban legend and that it&#8217;s been &#8220;Confirmed Bogus by Darwin URBAN LEGEND!&#8221;, lest people think that the DA folks are perpetuating a myth.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1114531</link>
		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Darwin Awards, even when they&#039;re urban legends such as the yarn about the guy who strapped a JATO rocket to his Chevy ...
http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html</description>
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<a href="http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html" rel="nofollow">http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rpn453</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1114521</link>
		<dc:creator>rpn453</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my pick for the winner:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece?token=null</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece?token=null" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4804007.ece?token=null</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1114471</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What an unusual and marvelous perspective–cars and Judaic law–through which to view the Darwin Awards.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, there are some orthodox rabbis like Natan Slifkin that don&#039;t have a problem with an old universe and the Diety working through natural selection.

There&#039;s another talmudic saying that he who saves a single life is as though he saved an entire world. I suppose that Darwin Award winners demonstrate some kind of corollary to that.

BTW, David, speaking of Judaic law, I like the idea of your engine valve Chanukah menorah, though technically it&#039;s not a kosher menorah because the lights all have to be separately visible (and on the same height) and mounting them in a circle like you did is problematic. Mount them on something straight, like a steering rack, and even my rabbi would approve. I&#039;ve made at least a couple of menorahs with my welding/brazing torches. I did one out of brass that&#039;s a model of the Western Wall/Kotel and plaza and uses glass globes for the flames. People look at it, say it&#039;s beautiful and then tell me I should make them for sale. When I say, ok, how about $200? They change their minds. My personal favorite things to scavenge for menorahs are .38 bullet casings. They are perfectly sized for standard Chanukah candles and I think they&#039;re appropriate in light of the military aspect of the events celebrated on that holiday. A friend of mine, when in the IDF and on exercises during Chanukah, used 25mm shell casings and diesel fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>What an unusual and marvelous perspective–cars and Judaic law–through which to view the Darwin Awards.</em></p>
<p>Well, there are some orthodox rabbis like Natan Slifkin that don&#8217;t have a problem with an old universe and the Diety working through natural selection.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another talmudic saying that he who saves a single life is as though he saved an entire world. I suppose that Darwin Award winners demonstrate some kind of corollary to that.</p>
<p>BTW, David, speaking of Judaic law, I like the idea of your engine valve Chanukah menorah, though technically it&#8217;s not a kosher menorah because the lights all have to be separately visible (and on the same height) and mounting them in a circle like you did is problematic. Mount them on something straight, like a steering rack, and even my rabbi would approve. I&#8217;ve made at least a couple of menorahs with my welding/brazing torches. I did one out of brass that&#8217;s a model of the Western Wall/Kotel and plaza and uses glass globes for the flames. People look at it, say it&#8217;s beautiful and then tell me I should make them for sale. When I say, ok, how about $200? They change their minds. My personal favorite things to scavenge for menorahs are .38 bullet casings. They are perfectly sized for standard Chanukah candles and I think they&#8217;re appropriate in light of the military aspect of the events celebrated on that holiday. A friend of mine, when in the IDF and on exercises during Chanukah, used 25mm shell casings and diesel fuel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andy D</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1114392</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working under  a  car supported only  by a jack. 
Changing a flat  tire  on the edge of  a  busy  roadside.  These activities claim  a few  idjits every  year.  I see people changing  flats  on   divided highways all the time. Often times  within in site of  an  off ramp and the inevitable gas  station.  You  can  drive 20 miles  or  more  on  a  flat  if  you  have  to.</description>
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Changing a flat  tire  on the edge of  a  busy  roadside.  These activities claim  a few  idjits every  year.  I see people changing  flats  on   divided highways all the time. Often times  within in site of  an  off ramp and the inevitable gas  station.  You  can  drive 20 miles  or  more  on  a  flat  if  you  have  to.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RayH</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/automotive-darwin-awards-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1114051</link>
		<dc:creator>RayH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In high school I partook in stupid things that surely would&#039;ve made this list had someone died.  I guess we were smart(?) enough to &lt;em&gt;go really slow&lt;/em&gt; when someone was in the shopping cart and never took turns when someone was inside it.  I guess we all had a conscious because the shopping cart was always returned (at least pretty close).  Of course, back then you could still do &quot;drive-bys&quot; with a super-soaker without fear of return fire being real bullets, and if you got caught, a stern verbal warning from law enforcement was the order of the day.  Times have changed a lot since even the early 90&#039;s!</description>
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