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	<title>Comments on: Audi&#8217;s Diesel Derring-Do</title>
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		<title>By: BMan1113VR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-3831</link>
		<dc:creator>BMan1113VR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is that the R8 could have been faster than the R10 if they developed it more. even now with a far less inferior chassis the privateer r8&#039;s can compete with the R10. Another embarassing moment for the R10 this year was when the P2 Penske Porsche Spyders beat the P1 R10&#039;s in a AMLS race this year!</description>
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		<title>By: tcwarnke (of GM)</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator>tcwarnke (of GM)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BarryO- I believe that the diesel engines VW is selling to DCX for the Caliber will only go into european bound Calibers.  Unfortunately I don&#039;t think these will find their way to the US market.

CasterOil- I&#039;ve never known servicing intervals to be any shorter than for gas engines.  In fact, I just did an air filter and oil change on my TDI (pumpe diesel for those of you who know what that is) and it will not need servicing again for 15000 km&#039;s (9320 miles).  Thats pretty good considering that I used to change the oil on my dodge every 4 or 5 thousand miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->BarryO- I believe that the diesel engines VW is selling to DCX for the Caliber will only go into european bound Calibers.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t think these will find their way to the US market.</p>
<p>CasterOil- I&#8217;ve never known servicing intervals to be any shorter than for gas engines.  In fact, I just did an air filter and oil change on my TDI (pumpe diesel for those of you who know what that is) and it will not need servicing again for 15000 km&#8217;s (9320 miles).  Thats pretty good considering that I used to change the oil on my dodge every 4 or 5 thousand miles.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: qfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2729</link>
		<dc:creator>qfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zOMG... JET is reading TTAC!</description>
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		<title>By: ZCD2.7T</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2570</link>
		<dc:creator>ZCD2.7T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note, if you&#039;d like to read more specifics about Audi&#039;s plans for diesels in the US, see this interview with Johan de Nysschen, Audi of America VP:

http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn2/

Audi is definitely at the forefront of diesel technology for passenger cars, and I, too, would welcome the chance to buy an Audi with a TDI engine - amazing refinement, power and TORQUE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->On a related note, if you&#8217;d like to read more specifics about Audi&#8217;s plans for diesels in the US, see this interview with Johan de Nysschen, Audi of America VP:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn2/</a></p>
<p>Audi is definitely at the forefront of diesel technology for passenger cars, and I, too, would welcome the chance to buy an Audi with a TDI engine &#8211; amazing refinement, power and TORQUE.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Claude Dickson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2568</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to several of the comments here:

Getting a diesel engine in the TT is not as much of a waste as it might appear.  Any diesel engine developed for the TT would be used on other platforms, I would think the A3 and the A4 at the very least.  There are also reports that the Q7 will soon have a diesel option.  If I were a betting man, my money would be that Audi is developing 2 diesel engines that, between them, could be used with most of the Audi line.

Reports are that pricing will be around 3% above the old TT.  The old TT was around $35k for the 2.0T and $40k for the 3.2.  That isn&#039;t so expensive that I  wouldn&#039;t care about gas mileage.  My guess is that any diesel option will be a mid-level option priced between the 2.0T and the 3.2, which I believe is how they are priced in Europe.  If they do this, Audi will have a hit on its hands.  If it is priced above the 3.2, well that would be a more difficult sell. 

Diesels won&#039;t be for everyone, but it looks a whole lot more attractive to me than any hybrid I&#039;ve driven.  Personally, I can&#039;t wait to test a modern diesel.  Unfortunately for me, I live in one of those 5 states where current diesels can&#039;t pass emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->In response to several of the comments here:</p>
<p>Getting a diesel engine in the TT is not as much of a waste as it might appear.  Any diesel engine developed for the TT would be used on other platforms, I would think the A3 and the A4 at the very least.  There are also reports that the Q7 will soon have a diesel option.  If I were a betting man, my money would be that Audi is developing 2 diesel engines that, between them, could be used with most of the Audi line.</p>
<p>Reports are that pricing will be around 3% above the old TT.  The old TT was around $35k for the 2.0T and $40k for the 3.2.  That isn&#8217;t so expensive that I  wouldn&#8217;t care about gas mileage.  My guess is that any diesel option will be a mid-level option priced between the 2.0T and the 3.2, which I believe is how they are priced in Europe.  If they do this, Audi will have a hit on its hands.  If it is priced above the 3.2, well that would be a more difficult sell. </p>
<p>Diesels won&#8217;t be for everyone, but it looks a whole lot more attractive to me than any hybrid I&#8217;ve driven.  Personally, I can&#8217;t wait to test a modern diesel.  Unfortunately for me, I live in one of those 5 states where current diesels can&#8217;t pass emissions.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2566</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this then...

&quot;The car has twice the power and more than four times the weight of an F1 car, yet half the fuel consumption.&quot;

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=14540

RF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->How about this then&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The car has twice the power and more than four times the weight of an F1 car, yet half the fuel consumption.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=14540" rel="nofollow">http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=14540</a></p>
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		<title>By: nichjs</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2564</link>
		<dc:creator>nichjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CasterOil, you&#039;re right about the higher initial purchase price of diesel engines, but a small diesel engine common here in europe will easily run to 150k miles while the equivalent small petrols are designed to fail at around 100k.  Which is why there are so many VWs still tooling round where their petrol counterparts long since gave up the ghost. Amortize that extra initial investment over an extra 50k miles and it pays for itself many times over.

WRT the pain of refuelling and Diesel&#039;s general &quot;filth&quot; there really is no difference, I&#039;ve driven both diesel and petrol on both sides of the pond, filling stations are the same, you just have to pick up the correct filler nozzle. (You&#039;d be surprised how many folks get this wrong).  Having said that, if you&#039;re prone to splashing yourself with fuel anyway, then of course diesel will give you the same trouble...

I recently drove a Vauxhall (GM) Astra 1.7 diesel, 100 hp, which felt like plenty of poke.  More fun and twice the efficiency of the (4 pot - euch) Stratus I had in Detroit.  For context, my regular chariot here in Blighty is a Vauxhall Omega V6 2.5l (Caddy Catera)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->CasterOil, you&#8217;re right about the higher initial purchase price of diesel engines, but a small diesel engine common here in europe will easily run to 150k miles while the equivalent small petrols are designed to fail at around 100k.  Which is why there are so many VWs still tooling round where their petrol counterparts long since gave up the ghost. Amortize that extra initial investment over an extra 50k miles and it pays for itself many times over.</p>
<p>WRT the pain of refuelling and Diesel&#8217;s general &#8220;filth&#8221; there really is no difference, I&#8217;ve driven both diesel and petrol on both sides of the pond, filling stations are the same, you just have to pick up the correct filler nozzle. (You&#8217;d be surprised how many folks get this wrong).  Having said that, if you&#8217;re prone to splashing yourself with fuel anyway, then of course diesel will give you the same trouble&#8230;</p>
<p>I recently drove a Vauxhall (GM) Astra 1.7 diesel, 100 hp, which felt like plenty of poke.  More fun and twice the efficiency of the (4 pot &#8211; euch) Stratus I had in Detroit.  For context, my regular chariot here in Blighty is a Vauxhall Omega V6 2.5l (Caddy Catera)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sid Vicious</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2561</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid Vicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never bagged on the Isuzu, International or Cummins offered by the domestics. My point was that 3/4 ton and a $5,000 option is the price of admission.  (Hence my comment regarding the V6 that Ford cancelled.)  Every day during my commute I either pass or get passed by dozens of these trucks hauling nothing but their driver.  Currently the domestics have a corner on this market and free markets will not allow that forever.  There is huge money being made and Toyota and Nissan are not ignorant of that.  Not everybody needs 600 lb-ft, but everyone would like to get 27 mpg in their 1/2 ton pickup.  This will be Toyota&#039;s advantage.  I&#039;ll be the first in line.

Regardless of how long ago GM&#039;s misguided adventure was, it still sucked.  At least Ford had the brains to buy motors from BMW (Continental) and Mazda (Escort, Tempo, Ranger.)  VW converted their 1.5 gas to diesel in the same time frame and no one can argue that it wasn&#039;t successful.  The block in my diesel rabbit is exactly the same as the block in the gas motor.  The SAE asked VW to do a full write up on this motor, which they did.  To my knowledge SAE did not ask GM for the same.  Also - seems that the over 40 crowd buy quite a few vehicles and have WAY more purchasing power (money) than Gen X and Y.

If this comes to pass markets will adjust, as they always do.  Refiners will adapt to produce more distillates (diesel) and less gasoline.  And you won&#039;t have to fuel up with the truckers.  I don&#039;t today.  Probably 1/3 of gas stations have a diesel pump right next to the gas pumps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I never bagged on the Isuzu, International or Cummins offered by the domestics. My point was that 3/4 ton and a $5,000 option is the price of admission.  (Hence my comment regarding the V6 that Ford cancelled.)  Every day during my commute I either pass or get passed by dozens of these trucks hauling nothing but their driver.  Currently the domestics have a corner on this market and free markets will not allow that forever.  There is huge money being made and Toyota and Nissan are not ignorant of that.  Not everybody needs 600 lb-ft, but everyone would like to get 27 mpg in their 1/2 ton pickup.  This will be Toyota&#8217;s advantage.  I&#8217;ll be the first in line.</p>
<p>Regardless of how long ago GM&#8217;s misguided adventure was, it still sucked.  At least Ford had the brains to buy motors from BMW (Continental) and Mazda (Escort, Tempo, Ranger.)  VW converted their 1.5 gas to diesel in the same time frame and no one can argue that it wasn&#8217;t successful.  The block in my diesel rabbit is exactly the same as the block in the gas motor.  The SAE asked VW to do a full write up on this motor, which they did.  To my knowledge SAE did not ask GM for the same.  Also &#8211; seems that the over 40 crowd buy quite a few vehicles and have WAY more purchasing power (money) than Gen X and Y.</p>
<p>If this comes to pass markets will adjust, as they always do.  Refiners will adapt to produce more distillates (diesel) and less gasoline.  And you won&#8217;t have to fuel up with the truckers.  I don&#8217;t today.  Probably 1/3 of gas stations have a diesel pump right next to the gas pumps.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: CasterOil</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2554</link>
		<dc:creator>CasterOil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, assuming that you can put up with the narrow torque band offered by Diesels, there are a few other issues that you need to consider before going in that direction.

Firstly, it is at a premium price to equivalent petrol models, sometimes several thousand dollars.

Secondly, servicing intervals are usually shorter, and much more expensive.

Thirdly, at some stage you are going to experience the financial pain of a clogged injector.

Fourthly, Diesel is a filthy, oily substance, and quite often you are going to splash youself with it.

Fifthly, you are going to be filling up in a greasy garage forecourt where Diesel is spilt all over the ground from 18 wheelers, usually with the bowser located nicely in the rain at the edge of the filling area.  Just try getting the Diesel fuel off your shoes so that you can brake safely.

Oh! I forgot!  It gets good fuel economy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->People, assuming that you can put up with the narrow torque band offered by Diesels, there are a few other issues that you need to consider before going in that direction.</p>
<p>Firstly, it is at a premium price to equivalent petrol models, sometimes several thousand dollars.</p>
<p>Secondly, servicing intervals are usually shorter, and much more expensive.</p>
<p>Thirdly, at some stage you are going to experience the financial pain of a clogged injector.</p>
<p>Fourthly, Diesel is a filthy, oily substance, and quite often you are going to splash youself with it.</p>
<p>Fifthly, you are going to be filling up in a greasy garage forecourt where Diesel is spilt all over the ground from 18 wheelers, usually with the bowser located nicely in the rain at the edge of the filling area.  Just try getting the Diesel fuel off your shoes so that you can brake safely.</p>
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		<title>By: jteller</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>jteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good editorial here - right on the money.  I wish I had written it!  Audi could really be a first mover with a true diesel sports car and to your point it would be quite a halo vehicle.  AudiWorld just finished two interviews with Audi of America Executive VP Johan de Nysschen on this same subject... ties in nicely if you are interested.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn/&quot; title=&quot;Interview Part I&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn2/&quot; title=&quot;Interview Part II&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Good editorial here &#8211; right on the money.  I wish I had written it!  Audi could really be a first mover with a true diesel sports car and to your point it would be quite a halo vehicle.  AudiWorld just finished two interviews with Audi of America Executive VP Johan de Nysschen on this same subject&#8230; ties in nicely if you are interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn/" title="Interview Part I" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/jdn2/" title="Interview Part II" rel="nofollow"></a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ktm</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator>ktm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, it screams &quot;Git outta my way or I&#039;ll eat ya!&quot;  All teeth and no smile, just my kind of car.</description>
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		<title>By: JSForbes</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2529</link>
		<dc:creator>JSForbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KTM, Hmm I didn&#039;t think about the hatchback.  Very nice looking car, but the grille is a bit, um, menacing.</description>
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		<title>By: ktm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSForbes, the new TT hatchback looks damn sexy.  The coupe leaves a bit to be desired though.</description>
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		<title>By: ktm</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>ktm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chuckgoolsbee, you were not looking at an A4 wagon for $60k.  You were looking at an S4 Avant for $60k.  Unless you know what to look for, they look generally the same.  A fully loaded A4 Avant Quattro is priced in the low low $40ks.

http://www.audiusa.com/model_home/0,,bodyStyleId-2,00.html?bodystyle=a4avant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->chuckgoolsbee, you were not looking at an A4 wagon for $60k.  You were looking at an S4 Avant for $60k.  Unless you know what to look for, they look generally the same.  A fully loaded A4 Avant Quattro is priced in the low low $40ks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.audiusa.com/model_home/0,,bodyStyleId-2,00.html?bodystyle=a4avant" rel="nofollow">http://www.audiusa.com/model_home/0,,bodyStyleId-2,00.html?bodystyle=a4avant</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: qfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>qfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we finally get this diesel show on the road, I&#039;m really tired of this foreplay bullshit about the fuel is coming the fuel is coming!!!... I welcome diesel audis with open arms and I&#039;d already own one if they had been here for some years. I would have gladly opted for a 2.5tdi or 2.0tdi over the 2.8 in my A4 avant.

Why the TT? thats such an obscure combination of things. Its a cute idea but its certainly not something I&#039;d put in front of getting A4 diesels and A6 diesels on US roads. 

Look the TT is a playboy toy IMO. The 8N TT was a well dressed GTI of sorts.. not exactly but it has an awful lot of 1J0 parts and if it starts with 1 its from a vw. When it costs $2k usd to put a ski rack on a car do you really believe that the buyer gives much of a shyt about fuel economy? Puhleeze... lets be logical Ingolstadt, I dont have many if any customers putting 20k miles a year on a TT... I do have a bunch driving the B,C,D platform cars tho (A4, A6, A8). What it boils down to is that the time and money spent to federalize a diesel TT would be better spent on the larger cars of which more are sold and see more annual miles per vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Can we finally get this diesel show on the road, I&#8217;m really tired of this foreplay bullshit about the fuel is coming the fuel is coming!!!&#8230; I welcome diesel audis with open arms and I&#8217;d already own one if they had been here for some years. I would have gladly opted for a 2.5tdi or 2.0tdi over the 2.8 in my A4 avant.</p>
<p>Why the TT? thats such an obscure combination of things. Its a cute idea but its certainly not something I&#8217;d put in front of getting A4 diesels and A6 diesels on US roads. </p>
<p>Look the TT is a playboy toy IMO. The 8N TT was a well dressed GTI of sorts.. not exactly but it has an awful lot of 1J0 parts and if it starts with 1 its from a vw. When it costs $2k usd to put a ski rack on a car do you really believe that the buyer gives much of a shyt about fuel economy? Puhleeze&#8230; lets be logical Ingolstadt, I dont have many if any customers putting 20k miles a year on a TT&#8230; I do have a bunch driving the B,C,D platform cars tho (A4, A6, A8). What it boils down to is that the time and money spent to federalize a diesel TT would be better spent on the larger cars of which more are sold and see more annual miles per vehicle.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JSForbes</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2493</link>
		<dc:creator>JSForbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To bad the new TT loses all of it&#039;s charm with it&#039;s Standard Audi Design.  IMO of course.</description>
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		<title>By: Captain Tungsten (of GM)</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2478</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Tungsten (of GM)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid Vicious:  Do a little research on the Duramax Diesel engines used in Silverados and Sierras since 2000 (and more recently, the Express and Savana vans) before you concede the diesel pickup market to Toyota.  And let&#039;s  try remember that that &quot;crappy diesel conversion&quot; was over 30 years ago.  Only the 40-and-over crowd actually remember that one.

And let&#039;s not forget that the ONE thing that GM got out of the debacle with Fiat was access to competitive pass. car diesel technology, one of the reasons GM Europe market share is back on the way up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sid Vicious:  Do a little research on the Duramax Diesel engines used in Silverados and Sierras since 2000 (and more recently, the Express and Savana vans) before you concede the diesel pickup market to Toyota.  And let&#8217;s  try remember that that &#8220;crappy diesel conversion&#8221; was over 30 years ago.  Only the 40-and-over crowd actually remember that one.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget that the ONE thing that GM got out of the debacle with Fiat was access to competitive pass. car diesel technology, one of the reasons GM Europe market share is back on the way up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cavendel</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>Cavendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting to see what happens to the price of Diesel and Gas if a considerable percentage of drivers switch from Gas to Diesel.</description>
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		<title>By: mbslk350</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2466</link>
		<dc:creator>mbslk350</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve long maintained that the real fuel-saving technology is diesel.  Hybrid technology is a stop-gap measure and E85 is a political gimmick.  

I, personally, can&#039;t stand the smell of the stuff.  But if we can clean it up and quiet it down, Americans will flock to diesel.  High torque and high mileage will carry the day.</description>
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<p>I, personally, can&#8217;t stand the smell of the stuff.  But if we can clean it up and quiet it down, Americans will flock to diesel.  High torque and high mileage will carry the day.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having spent time recently with the smart, and the CRD version of the Jeep Liberty, I appreciated the fuel savings during those periods (particularly the smart which fills up for the grand sum of $13). And although my wallet was cringing prior to a recent week spent with the Mega Cab Ram 2500... it was surprisingly cheaper than the regularly fuelled new Audi bus (which I took back early after it threatened to drink me out of house and home). 

Can&#039;t wait to see the R10 when it comes to Mosport for the ALMS series. Got some great pics of its predecessor last year, those stonking great carbon fibre brakes are pretty cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Having spent time recently with the smart, and the CRD version of the Jeep Liberty, I appreciated the fuel savings during those periods (particularly the smart which fills up for the grand sum of $13). And although my wallet was cringing prior to a recent week spent with the Mega Cab Ram 2500&#8230; it was surprisingly cheaper than the regularly fuelled new Audi bus (which I took back early after it threatened to drink me out of house and home). </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see the R10 when it comes to Mosport for the ALMS series. Got some great pics of its predecessor last year, those stonking great carbon fibre brakes are pretty cool.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: stryker1</title>
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		<dc:creator>stryker1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a Diesel Civic, or Matrix. Shoot those tiny car mileage ratings to the moon.</description>
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		<title>By: BarryO</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2447</link>
		<dc:creator>BarryO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 2 weeks ago, I was in the magazine aisle of a food store, reading a diesel magazine - I forget the name of the rag, but they had a short column stating that VW was selling a bunch of diesel engines to DCX for use in the Dodge Caliber. I hope I&#039;m not just feeding a rumor frenzy, but I know what I read. That would make for an interesting combination, I&#039;m thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->About 2 weeks ago, I was in the magazine aisle of a food store, reading a diesel magazine &#8211; I forget the name of the rag, but they had a short column stating that VW was selling a bunch of diesel engines to DCX for use in the Dodge Caliber. I hope I&#8217;m not just feeding a rumor frenzy, but I know what I read. That would make for an interesting combination, I&#8217;m thinking.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geozinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>geozinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think among the congnoscenti, diesels have their place. Growing up a truck driver&#039;s son, I have a deep respect for diesels. However, with decades of bad opinions behind them, diesels in the States seems destined for tractor-trailers.

As much as I would have liked to have seen a diesel (or E85 for that matter) on the option list of our new Malibu Maxx, no such luck. Even though my wife works for a trucking and logistics company, a diesel vehicle is just reprehensible to her.  I&#039;d be willing to bet the same applies for many folks in the States, TDI&#039;s notwithstanding. At least until gasoline gets to $5/gal. Then you might see some movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think among the congnoscenti, diesels have their place. Growing up a truck driver&#8217;s son, I have a deep respect for diesels. However, with decades of bad opinions behind them, diesels in the States seems destined for tractor-trailers.</p>
<p>As much as I would have liked to have seen a diesel (or E85 for that matter) on the option list of our new Malibu Maxx, no such luck. Even though my wife works for a trucking and logistics company, a diesel vehicle is just reprehensible to her.  I&#8217;d be willing to bet the same applies for many folks in the States, TDI&#8217;s notwithstanding. At least until gasoline gets to $5/gal. Then you might see some movement.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: brettc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2434</link>
		<dc:creator>brettc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been driving VW diesels since 1998. First, an &#039;85 Jetta diesel, then an &#039;89 Jetta TD, and currently an &#039;03 Jetta TDI sedan. I won&#039;t buy another gas powered vehicle if I can help it. 45 MPG on a bad day with the A/C on, and 53 on a good day. And I always drive it like I stole it.

The torque is what will sell the cars to the average North American. The key is to get people to drive them. I&#039;m glad ULSD is being phased in, and hopefully Audi actually will bring a TT TDI over. BMW apparently is looking at North America as well for diesel implementation. If Honda follows through and brings over their diesel engines, I can see people lining up to place their orders. 

GM and Ford have made such stupid decisions in regards to diesel for the NA market: Ford with the F-150 project, and also the diesel Focus. GM has the technology from its Euro divisions, but we all know they aren&#039;t really interested in selling cars that people might actually want to buy.

It&#039;ll probably be a rude awakening once the new diesels start appearing from the &quot;foreign&quot; brands. Unless GM and Ford are secretly gearing up too, but they haven&#039;t bothered to tell anyone...yeah, that&#039;s it, they don&#039;t want to create any of that crazy anticipation that might sell a car or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve been driving VW diesels since 1998. First, an &#8216;85 Jetta diesel, then an &#8216;89 Jetta TD, and currently an &#8216;03 Jetta TDI sedan. I won&#8217;t buy another gas powered vehicle if I can help it. 45 MPG on a bad day with the A/C on, and 53 on a good day. And I always drive it like I stole it.</p>
<p>The torque is what will sell the cars to the average North American. The key is to get people to drive them. I&#8217;m glad ULSD is being phased in, and hopefully Audi actually will bring a TT TDI over. BMW apparently is looking at North America as well for diesel implementation. If Honda follows through and brings over their diesel engines, I can see people lining up to place their orders. </p>
<p>GM and Ford have made such stupid decisions in regards to diesel for the NA market: Ford with the F-150 project, and also the diesel Focus. GM has the technology from its Euro divisions, but we all know they aren&#8217;t really interested in selling cars that people might actually want to buy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll probably be a rude awakening once the new diesels start appearing from the &#8220;foreign&#8221; brands. Unless GM and Ford are secretly gearing up too, but they haven&#8217;t bothered to tell anyone&#8230;yeah, that&#8217;s it, they don&#8217;t want to create any of that crazy anticipation that might sell a car or two.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chuckgoolsbee</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/audis-diesel-derring-do/comment-page-1/#comment-2430</link>
		<dc:creator>chuckgoolsbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES! YES! &lt;b&gt;YES!&lt;/b&gt;

Finally! I&#039;ve been begging for a Diesel roadster for YEARS and everyone thinks I&#039;m nuts. To me the ultimate would be an Elise with a TDI. That ultra lightweight Lotus chassis would likely provide startling mileage figures, and thrilling performance too. I&#039;ve managed to &lt;a href=&quot;http://chuck.goolsbee.org/archives/105&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reach nearly 60 MPG in my VW Jetta TDI&lt;/a&gt;, so lop a few thoudsand pounds off and presto! (mind you, my &lt;i&gt;average&lt;/i&gt; is more in the upper 40s, but high 50s are possible.)

I like the TT to a certain degree, but Audi&#039;s seem to be horrifically overpriced. How can they justify over double for the A4 over the Jetta? When I bought my Jetta in 2002 there was an A4 wagon sitting next to it for over $60k! Mind you it was AWD and packed to the gills with extras, but I paid under $20k for the TDI (that was before prices of oil-burners went crazy).

If Audi does have the guts to ship the TDI in a roadster chassis however, I WILL buy it. I have to after all the bitching I&#039;ve done about no car maker having the balls to build one. Gotta put my money where my mouth is.</description>
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<p>Finally! I&#8217;ve been begging for a Diesel roadster for YEARS and everyone thinks I&#8217;m nuts. To me the ultimate would be an Elise with a TDI. That ultra lightweight Lotus chassis would likely provide startling mileage figures, and thrilling performance too. I&#8217;ve managed to <a href="http://chuck.goolsbee.org/archives/105" rel="nofollow">reach nearly 60 MPG in my VW Jetta TDI</a>, so lop a few thoudsand pounds off and presto! (mind you, my <i>average</i> is more in the upper 40s, but high 50s are possible.)</p>
<p>I like the TT to a certain degree, but Audi&#8217;s seem to be horrifically overpriced. How can they justify over double for the A4 over the Jetta? When I bought my Jetta in 2002 there was an A4 wagon sitting next to it for over $60k! Mind you it was AWD and packed to the gills with extras, but I paid under $20k for the TDI (that was before prices of oil-burners went crazy).</p>
<p>If Audi does have the guts to ship the TDI in a roadster chassis however, I WILL buy it. I have to after all the bitching I&#8217;ve done about no car maker having the balls to build one. Gotta put my money where my mouth is.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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