Comments on: Ask the Best and Brightest: Does Anyone Have A BETTER Copy of the Pro-Detroit Viral Email? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:03:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: BMW325I http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1096792 BMW325I Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:43:00 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1096792 The lamest commercial I have seen is when GM compared to the most fuel efficient Escalade to the least fuel efficient Mini cooper trying to convince people to pay 3 times more for 1 more mpg city. Doesn't the mini cooper diesel get something like 39mpg city and 45 hwy? The lamest commercial I have seen is when GM compared to the most fuel efficient Escalade to the least fuel efficient Mini cooper trying to convince people to pay 3 times more for 1 more mpg city. Doesn’t the mini cooper diesel get something like 39mpg city and 45 hwy?

]]> By: Demetri http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1096452 Demetri Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:25:52 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1096452 Before this whole situation went down, I was considering buying a Ford once they bring over the euro stuff. Now, I can easily say that I will never buy a D3 vehicle for the rest of my life. The whole situation disgusts me, and a lot of it has to do with the D3 boosters. I realized that I have nothing in common with the domestic car people, and I want nothing to do with them or their brands. I feel like your car choice says something about you, and for me, a detroit badge says all the wrong things. Before this whole situation went down, I was considering buying a Ford once they bring over the euro stuff. Now, I can easily say that I will never buy a D3 vehicle for the rest of my life. The whole situation disgusts me, and a lot of it has to do with the D3 boosters. I realized that I have nothing in common with the domestic car people, and I want nothing to do with them or their brands. I feel like your car choice says something about you, and for me, a detroit badge says all the wrong things.

]]> By: Mark45 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1096311 Mark45 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:11:23 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1096311 Why are they comparing the Sequoia with the Suburban? The Sequoia is closer in size to the Tahoe which gets better mileage than the Suburban. Why are they comparing the Sequoia with the Suburban? The Sequoia is closer in size to the Tahoe which gets better mileage than the Suburban.

]]> By: The Luigiian http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1096221 The Luigiian Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:35:22 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1096221 Wow. I don't like Japanese cars that much, but even I do have to admit they've got their good points. That said, the pro-Detroit jpeg is truly terrible. Why the hell do people still use jpegs when there's text in the image? PNG, dammit. Portable Network Graphics. USE IT. Wow. I don’t like Japanese cars that much, but even I do have to admit they’ve got their good points.

That said, the pro-Detroit jpeg is truly terrible. Why the hell do people still use jpegs when there’s text in the image? PNG, dammit. Portable Network Graphics. USE IT.

]]> By: npbheights http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1096192 npbheights Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:18:39 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1096192 Nothing will make you want to buy a Toyota more than trying to keep a GM Northstar on the road for seven years. Nothing will make you want to buy a Toyota more than trying to keep a GM Northstar on the road for seven years.

]]> By: Robert Farago http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095972 Robert Farago Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:49:51 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095972 TheRealAutoGuy : The truth. TheRealAutoGuy :

The truth.

]]> By: nonce http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095932 nonce Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:31:54 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095932 Is this it? http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20081228&Category=COL14&ArtNo=812280376&Ref=AR&Profile=1095&MaxW=550&MaxH=650&title=0 Is this it?

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20081228&Category=COL14&ArtNo=812280376&Ref=AR&Profile=1095&MaxW=550&MaxH=650&title=0

]]> By: TheRealAutoGuy http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095531 TheRealAutoGuy Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:09:46 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095531 ZoomZoom : December 29th, 2008 at 11:59 am Phelan is still working for the Free Press? Yup. Doing well, as a matter of fact. The Free Press is still selling papers? Yes Indeed, 7 days a week. In a town where supposedly nobody’s working? Not nearly enough, but some folks are still working! :-) Wow, you live and learn. Yes, you do! :-) ZoomZoom :
December 29th, 2008 at 11:59 am

Phelan is still working for the Free Press?
Yup. Doing well, as a matter of fact.

The Free Press is still selling papers?
Yes Indeed, 7 days a week.

In a town where supposedly nobody’s working?
Not nearly enough, but some folks are still working! :-)

Wow, you live and learn.
Yes, you do! :-)

]]> By: TheRealAutoGuy http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095522 TheRealAutoGuy Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:07:00 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095522 This Casablanca-ripping-off article "incensed - incensed!" is long on the baiting, accusations, and critical tone, and short on facts. Phelan is a professional. One part of being a professional is not needlessly repeating trash and inaccuracies. This is what good journalists do. BTW, Robert, what would Phelan have to say for you to agree and support him? Just asking... This Casablanca-ripping-off article “incensed – incensed!” is long on the baiting, accusations, and critical tone, and short on facts.

Phelan is a professional. One part of being a professional is not needlessly repeating trash and inaccuracies. This is what good journalists do.

BTW, Robert, what would Phelan have to say for you to agree and support him? Just asking…

]]> By: fincar1 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095211 fincar1 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:49:27 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095211 The definition of a viral email is that everyone has seen it. Not much of a virus if no one can find it. The definition of a viral email is that everyone has seen it. Not much of a virus if no one can find it.

]]> By: no_slushbox http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095142 no_slushbox Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:38:23 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095142 "The email goes on to claim that 'in an accident a Toyota Camry has a 90% chance of exploding and killing every passenger inside', but does not provide a source for that statistic, which may or may not be true." “The email goes on to claim that ‘in an accident a Toyota Camry has a 90% chance of exploding and killing every passenger inside’, but does not provide a source for that statistic, which may or may not be true.”

]]> By: autoemployeefornow http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1095081 autoemployeefornow Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:29:37 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1095081 The city of Detroit has an unemployment rate of a little over 21%. That would mean that 79% are still working ZoomZoom. Sure it's near depression numbers but people are still working. Phelan has to rah rah for Detroit. Who do you think he works for? The city of Detroit has an unemployment rate of a little over 21%. That would mean that 79% are still working ZoomZoom. Sure it’s near depression numbers but people are still working. Phelan has to rah rah for Detroit. Who do you think he works for?

]]> By: KixStart http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1094762 KixStart Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:26:30 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1094762 Phelan: <em>"The provocative headline expresses a widely held frustration that U.S. automakers get no credit for building hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles, while foreign brands get a free pass when they sell big gas-guzzlers."</em> Only if you're drinking the GM Kool-Aid and believe that a bargeload of badge-engineered vehicles that eke out 30mpg is important. Last year - or maybe the year before, one of the muckety-mucks at Toyota said, "40 is the new 30." And that's what people believe. And Toyota does have a model that gets well over 40 on the EPA tests, with an improved version due out soon. GM? Uhhh... no. The genius of GM is to introduce hybrids that can also be described as gas-guzzlers. --- This just in; Ford gets it, even if GM doesn't: <a href="http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/23/ford-fusion-hybrid-is-rated-at-41-mpg/?hp" rel="nofollow">Ford Fusion Score 41mpg on EPA Test</a> Good job, Ford. Phelan: “The provocative headline expresses a widely held frustration that U.S. automakers get no credit for building hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles, while foreign brands get a free pass when they sell big gas-guzzlers.”

Only if you’re drinking the GM Kool-Aid and believe that a bargeload of badge-engineered vehicles that eke out 30mpg is important. Last year – or maybe the year before, one of the muckety-mucks at Toyota said, “40 is the new 30.” And that’s what people believe. And Toyota does have a model that gets well over 40 on the EPA tests, with an improved version due out soon. GM? Uhhh… no. The genius of GM is to introduce hybrids that can also be described as gas-guzzlers.

—

This just in; Ford gets it, even if GM doesn’t:

Ford Fusion Score 41mpg on EPA Test

Good job, Ford.

]]> By: ZoomZoom http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ask-the-best-and-brightest-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-pro-detroit-viral-email/comment-page-1/#comment-1094652 ZoomZoom Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:59:23 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=200952#comment-1094652 Phelan is still working for the Free Press? The Free Press is still selling papers? In a town where supposedly nobody's working? Wow, you live and learn. Phelan is still working for the Free Press?

The Free Press is still selling papers?

In a town where supposedly nobody’s working?

Wow, you live and learn.

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