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		<title>By: nametag</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90506</link>
		<dc:creator>nametag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, the right voice makes all the difference.  I remember the numerous ads voiced by Hector Alejandro in the 90&#039;s for Buick.  Seemed to the right voice for the right car.  

I would never imagine James Earl Jones voicing ads for Hyndai...</description>
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		<title>By: Joe O</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90492</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive display of both car scorn and ad knowledge in these comments. 

First, on the ads: VW has always struck me as the most consistently on target for creating memorable ads AND brand recognition. I can&#039;t believe no one has mentioned the ad where the gentleman licks the car to prevent the new owners from taking it home.

Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas in the atmosphere and yet we are rushing to produce hydrogen cars? Eegads! Ethanol stores less energy than gasoline and takes more to make? Yikes!

Hybrids use funky things in their production that are not environmentally friendly? Wowie.

The only things I&#039;ve seen to date that I like for the future are: 

1. Plug-in electric - the infrastructure exists and producing electricity is cheap, easy to regulate, and can be done cleanly through a variety of methods. If this catches on, it will only advance the industry and our country&#039;s electric infrastructure.

2. Diesel - In leaps and bounds, diesel technology is getting more efficient, cleaner, and producing greater power. The advantages over gasoline are substantial, and it&#039;s still improving.

3. Hydraulic - Hydraulic drive systems re-use wasted kinetic energy. I use the metaphor of the spring...when the car slows down, the hydraulic system acts as a spring &quot;compressing&quot; (storing up energy). As you accelerate, the hydraulic system releases energy to move the car forward. Currently large, bulky systems used on UPS trucks. Yields thus far have been a 60% increase in economy and 40% reduction in emissions.

4. Ingenuity - BMW efficient dynamics seems to capture this best. On-demand water pumps, alternators that decouple and use regenerative braking to charge, steam-based closed system turbochargers that reuse exhaust heat, stop-start technology. All things that can be added to current cars and add up to substantial savings.

5. Mixtures of the above - A diesel engine utilizing a hybrid-plug-in system to allow electric-only operation at idle and low speed, hydraulic energy recapture, and efficient dynamics to help the car not waste energy.

Science always finds a way to escape those who don&#039;t want it.

But we were talking about ads.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Impressive display of both car scorn and ad knowledge in these comments. </p>
<p>First, on the ads: VW has always struck me as the most consistently on target for creating memorable ads AND brand recognition. I can&#8217;t believe no one has mentioned the ad where the gentleman licks the car to prevent the new owners from taking it home.</p>
<p>Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas in the atmosphere and yet we are rushing to produce hydrogen cars? Eegads! Ethanol stores less energy than gasoline and takes more to make? Yikes!</p>
<p>Hybrids use funky things in their production that are not environmentally friendly? Wowie.</p>
<p>The only things I&#8217;ve seen to date that I like for the future are: </p>
<p>1. Plug-in electric &#8211; the infrastructure exists and producing electricity is cheap, easy to regulate, and can be done cleanly through a variety of methods. If this catches on, it will only advance the industry and our country&#8217;s electric infrastructure.</p>
<p>2. Diesel &#8211; In leaps and bounds, diesel technology is getting more efficient, cleaner, and producing greater power. The advantages over gasoline are substantial, and it&#8217;s still improving.</p>
<p>3. Hydraulic &#8211; Hydraulic drive systems re-use wasted kinetic energy. I use the metaphor of the spring&#8230;when the car slows down, the hydraulic system acts as a spring &#8220;compressing&#8221; (storing up energy). As you accelerate, the hydraulic system releases energy to move the car forward. Currently large, bulky systems used on UPS trucks. Yields thus far have been a 60% increase in economy and 40% reduction in emissions.</p>
<p>4. Ingenuity &#8211; BMW efficient dynamics seems to capture this best. On-demand water pumps, alternators that decouple and use regenerative braking to charge, steam-based closed system turbochargers that reuse exhaust heat, stop-start technology. All things that can be added to current cars and add up to substantial savings.</p>
<p>5. Mixtures of the above &#8211; A diesel engine utilizing a hybrid-plug-in system to allow electric-only operation at idle and low speed, hydraulic energy recapture, and efficient dynamics to help the car not waste energy.</p>
<p>Science always finds a way to escape those who don&#8217;t want it.</p>
<p>But we were talking about ads.</p>
<p>Joe<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: PerfectZero</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90444</link>
		<dc:creator>PerfectZero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the M5 rocket car ad, my favorite is the face polo commercial that never aired:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I62bOXfZXek

questionable taste maybe, but I laughed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like the M5 rocket car ad, my favorite is the face polo commercial that never aired:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I62bOXfZXek" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I62bOXfZXek</a></p>
<p>questionable taste maybe, but I laughed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Queensmet</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90400</link>
		<dc:creator>Queensmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone seen the Subaru Ad? You know &quot; We are the only Car plant that is also a wildlife preserve&quot;? and then it shows a couple of deer?

The deer are not discerning nor are they very smart. I work at a plant that has been considered an environmental disaster for what was dumped on the property 50 years ago and we have deer all the time. And like Subaru doesn&#039;t use toxic chemicals to ensue that th body panels etc are clean enough to take the paint.  Ahh, but Joe &quot;I like Foreign car companies&quot;, doesn&#039;t know this and thinks that Subaru is greener than the Big 3 because the plant is on a wildlife preserve. The Big 3 made mistakes in the past and what is Subaru&#039;s record in Japan. Consumers are dumber than the deer if they fall for that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Anyone seen the Subaru Ad? You know &#8221; We are the only Car plant that is also a wildlife preserve&#8221;? and then it shows a couple of deer?</p>
<p>The deer are not discerning nor are they very smart. I work at a plant that has been considered an environmental disaster for what was dumped on the property 50 years ago and we have deer all the time. And like Subaru doesn&#8217;t use toxic chemicals to ensue that th body panels etc are clean enough to take the paint.  Ahh, but Joe &#8220;I like Foreign car companies&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t know this and thinks that Subaru is greener than the Big 3 because the plant is on a wildlife preserve. The Big 3 made mistakes in the past and what is Subaru&#8217;s record in Japan. Consumers are dumber than the deer if they fall for that<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: yankinwaoz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90361</link>
		<dc:creator>yankinwaoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercedes-Benz did a great ad back in the 90&#039;s. It was a sped-up view from the driver&#039;s seat over the hood over a trip across the US. The MB hood emblem was dead center. For some reason, I really liked it. Perhaps cause I owned a Benz at the time.</description>
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		<title>By: mgrabo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90340</link>
		<dc:creator>mgrabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some car ads can actually scar viewers for life &amp; forever ruin their opinion of a given brand.

Mercury produced this ad during my formative years &amp; convinced me that I&#039;d never be caught dead in one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBZjG1YA2g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think some car ads can actually scar viewers for life &amp; forever ruin their opinion of a given brand.</p>
<p>Mercury produced this ad during my formative years &amp; convinced me that I&#8217;d never be caught dead in one:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBZjG1YA2g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBZjG1YA2g</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: supremebrougham</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90238</link>
		<dc:creator>supremebrougham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ad I liked best was the one Ford did in 2000 showcasing all their brands around the world, which featured Charlotte Church singing in them. I don&#039;t know why, but I found it highly emotional and uplifting, to the point that it almost made me proud to own a Ford at that time...I got over that feeling rather quickly though...

But it was still a great ad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The ad I liked best was the one Ford did in 2000 showcasing all their brands around the world, which featured Charlotte Church singing in them. I don&#8217;t know why, but I found it highly emotional and uplifting, to the point that it almost made me proud to own a Ford at that time&#8230;I got over that feeling rather quickly though&#8230;</p>
<p>But it was still a great ad!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mervich</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90220</link>
		<dc:creator>Mervich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe anyone has mentioned, what I regard as one of the all-time best and most effective car ads, the BMW E39 M5 television commercial.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPd2Jg-XHOE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPd2Jg-XHOE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t believe anyone has mentioned, what I regard as one of the all-time best and most effective car ads, the BMW E39 M5 television commercial.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPd2Jg-XHOE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPd2Jg-XHOE</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nametag</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-2/#comment-90217</link>
		<dc:creator>nametag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you forget those &#039;08 Mercedes C Class ads?  You know - the guy proclaiming &quot;Because we promised you a Mercedes Benz&quot; after each engineering marvel?  How can you forget that the the doors can hold a 200 pound man each?  How can you forget that the car goes 80 to 0 in 4 seconds?  

...until you read the fine print &quot;For demonstration only.  Do not attempt&quot; under each of these...  Otherwise memorable.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=78hDOqnK1gA

*****

The ads I really don&#039;t like is the series of Swap Your Ride ads from Ford, which thinks that we are stupid.  

STUPIDITY #1:  &quot;We didn&#039;t tell them we were from Ford.  We told them we were market research.&quot;  

Um... have you done market research before?  If you participated in Swap Your Ride, here&#039;s what they most likely told you:  &quot;Hi, we are market research.  AN AUTO MANUFACTURER would like you to test a vehicle to see how it compares to yours.  You will be driving this manufacturer&#039;s vehcicle for a week.&quot;       Yup, they were not told they were from Ford...

STUPIDITY #2:  &quot;We didn&#039;t tell them what to say&quot; 

Um... if you have done market research, you are REQUIRED to give your opinions in order to be compensated that $$$ they would be earning.  You are asked questions.  In this case, Ford wrote the questions that market research asks to the people participating in Swap Your Ride.  Yeah, of course they wrote the questions that make Ford look more favorable.  When everyone in these ads says &quot;I&#039;m going to miss you&quot; to their Ford, you know that was something that Ford wrote in for the Q&amp;A session.  So yeah, Ford didn&#039;t tell them what to say.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0Z839SRtg
 
*****

Also, whatever happened to those 2 inspired by Jeff Foxworthy stupider-then-a-5th-grader rednecks in the Dodge ads who love hemis?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnt1KjJXXf0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->How can you forget those &#8216;08 Mercedes C Class ads?  You know &#8211; the guy proclaiming &#8220;Because we promised you a Mercedes Benz&#8221; after each engineering marvel?  How can you forget that the the doors can hold a 200 pound man each?  How can you forget that the car goes 80 to 0 in 4 seconds?  </p>
<p>&#8230;until you read the fine print &#8220;For demonstration only.  Do not attempt&#8221; under each of these&#8230;  Otherwise memorable.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=78hDOqnK1gA" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=78hDOqnK1gA</a></p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>The ads I really don&#8217;t like is the series of Swap Your Ride ads from Ford, which thinks that we are stupid.  </p>
<p>STUPIDITY #1:  &#8220;We didn&#8217;t tell them we were from Ford.  We told them we were market research.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Um&#8230; have you done market research before?  If you participated in Swap Your Ride, here&#8217;s what they most likely told you:  &#8220;Hi, we are market research.  AN AUTO MANUFACTURER would like you to test a vehicle to see how it compares to yours.  You will be driving this manufacturer&#8217;s vehcicle for a week.&#8221;       Yup, they were not told they were from Ford&#8230;</p>
<p>STUPIDITY #2:  &#8220;We didn&#8217;t tell them what to say&#8221; </p>
<p>Um&#8230; if you have done market research, you are REQUIRED to give your opinions in order to be compensated that $$$ they would be earning.  You are asked questions.  In this case, Ford wrote the questions that market research asks to the people participating in Swap Your Ride.  Yeah, of course they wrote the questions that make Ford look more favorable.  When everyone in these ads says &#8220;I&#8217;m going to miss you&#8221; to their Ford, you know that was something that Ford wrote in for the Q&#038;A session.  So yeah, Ford didn&#8217;t tell them what to say.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0Z839SRtg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0Z839SRtg</a></p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>Also, whatever happened to those 2 inspired by Jeff Foxworthy stupider-then-a-5th-grader rednecks in the Dodge ads who love hemis?  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnt1KjJXXf0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnt1KjJXXf0</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally. The truth from Ricardo Montalban.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcw2H4W9TJk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Finally. The truth from Ricardo Montalban.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcw2H4W9TJk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcw2H4W9TJk</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hope to see you on the winding roads and spiky rocks some day…&quot; 

The spikey rocks isn&#039;t going to happen.    Twisty roads are fun, but I&#039;m not buying a car just for that, as I&#039;d rarely make use of it that way.   

All I&#039;m saying is there is no use making TV commercials for pistonheads as they are a small percentage of the market.   Most people see a car sliding sideways on a wet surface and ask themselves &quot;Why would I ever want to do that?&quot;   

As for all the other commercials, I&#039;m glad I&#039;m missing them - and yet, I have most of the products anyway.   Makes me wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Hope to see you on the winding roads and spiky rocks some day…&#8221; </p>
<p>The spikey rocks isn&#8217;t going to happen.    Twisty roads are fun, but I&#8217;m not buying a car just for that, as I&#8217;d rarely make use of it that way.   </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is there is no use making TV commercials for pistonheads as they are a small percentage of the market.   Most people see a car sliding sideways on a wet surface and ask themselves &#8220;Why would I ever want to do that?&#8221;   </p>
<p>As for all the other commercials, I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m missing them &#8211; and yet, I have most of the products anyway.   Makes me wonder.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: StevieMcOldcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevieMcOldcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I envy Dynamic88, who by abstaining from cable has avoided abundant ads for new widescreen HDTVs run on ESPN. And ads for home appliances run on Food Network. Or Swiffer ads on Bravo showing housewives getting off on housecleaning. I&#039;m afraid there is no shortage of consumer product advertising elsewhere, on cable and in print. 

But I don&#039;t envy Dynamic&#039;s roads laid out in grids, lack of good driving experiences, or absence of spiky rock formations. One reason that car makers continue to run ads highlighting great driving experiences is because they DO exist -- and for every happy Olds 88 driver toddling back and forth to work, there&#039;s a Corolla driver listening to NPR and dreaming of a weekend drive in the twisties in something really exciting.

Hope to see you on the winding roads and spiky rocks some day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I envy Dynamic88, who by abstaining from cable has avoided abundant ads for new widescreen HDTVs run on ESPN. And ads for home appliances run on Food Network. Or Swiffer ads on Bravo showing housewives getting off on housecleaning. I&#8217;m afraid there is no shortage of consumer product advertising elsewhere, on cable and in print. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t envy Dynamic&#8217;s roads laid out in grids, lack of good driving experiences, or absence of spiky rock formations. One reason that car makers continue to run ads highlighting great driving experiences is because they DO exist &#8212; and for every happy Olds 88 driver toddling back and forth to work, there&#8217;s a Corolla driver listening to NPR and dreaming of a weekend drive in the twisties in something really exciting.</p>
<p>Hope to see you on the winding roads and spiky rocks some day&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: IronEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>IronEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1993 4th Gen Camaro Z28 intro ads. The one with the red Z28 sliding sideways aka the old Porsche 944 Turbo ad. &quot;Big enough cupholder for a slurpee&quot;. Classic.

Another 4th gen Camaro ad that used Jimi Hendrix&#039;s &quot;Let me stand next to your fire&quot; as background music is another classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The 1993 4th Gen Camaro Z28 intro ads. The one with the red Z28 sliding sideways aka the old Porsche 944 Turbo ad. &#8220;Big enough cupholder for a slurpee&#8221;. Classic.</p>
<p>Another 4th gen Camaro ad that used Jimi Hendrix&#8217;s &#8220;Let me stand next to your fire&#8221; as background music is another classic.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-90061</link>
		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We own a stove (range, cooker, whatever) yet I can&#039;t recall ever seeing a TV ad for a stove.    We own a refridgerator, and though there are TV ads for &#039;fridges, (I think) I can&#039;t recall any.    We own a washer and dryer, not Maytag, even though the only TV ads I can remember for any appliance are the Maytag commercials.   We own a TV, but I can&#039;t even remember the last time I saw a commercial for TVs.    

My point being, household appliances are not advertised to the same degree as cars, yet we all have a houseful of appliances.  Maybe the automakers just don&#039;t need to advertise nearly as much.    Anyone not heard of a car maker called Chevrolet?   Anyone not heard of Toyota?   

I watch very little TV (and no cable/satellite) so maybe I just missed them.   Maybe there are lots of appliance ads that I just have not seen, but it doesn&#039;t seem as if there are many.    I really don&#039;t think TV ads have influenced any of our appliance purchases.   Or car purchases for that matter.  

I bought a Mac because my brother had one and it&#039;s just a lot nicer to use than a PC.   The &quot;cool guy&quot; Apple ads havn&#039;t influenced me at all - in fact they make me cringe.   

I think one reason commercials are so forgettable is that the are still trying to sell the driving experience -zoom zoom, cars going fast around corners, cars going very fast along straight highways.    You don&#039;t see anyone in an appliance commercial getting off using their washer/dryer - the emphasis is on making chores easier, not having fun doing laundry.     Cars are just transportation appliances.   Don&#039;t try to make me think I&#039;m going to have wonderful driving experiences if I buy a certain car.  

That brings us to unreality.   Why show me a truck driving up to the top of some spikey rock formation?   I never do that with my truck.   Show me the truck at Home Depot, and show me how much lumber I can get in the thing - that&#039;s what I do with my truck.    

I live in a place where all the raods are laid out in grids.   Why show me a car whipping through S-curves?   I don&#039;t want to do that in the first place, and even if I did, I&#039;d have to go somewhere  else to do it.   

Stop trying to sell the sizzle, because we aren&#039;t even all that interested in the steak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We own a stove (range, cooker, whatever) yet I can&#8217;t recall ever seeing a TV ad for a stove.    We own a refridgerator, and though there are TV ads for &#8216;fridges, (I think) I can&#8217;t recall any.    We own a washer and dryer, not Maytag, even though the only TV ads I can remember for any appliance are the Maytag commercials.   We own a TV, but I can&#8217;t even remember the last time I saw a commercial for TVs.    </p>
<p>My point being, household appliances are not advertised to the same degree as cars, yet we all have a houseful of appliances.  Maybe the automakers just don&#8217;t need to advertise nearly as much.    Anyone not heard of a car maker called Chevrolet?   Anyone not heard of Toyota?   </p>
<p>I watch very little TV (and no cable/satellite) so maybe I just missed them.   Maybe there are lots of appliance ads that I just have not seen, but it doesn&#8217;t seem as if there are many.    I really don&#8217;t think TV ads have influenced any of our appliance purchases.   Or car purchases for that matter.  </p>
<p>I bought a Mac because my brother had one and it&#8217;s just a lot nicer to use than a PC.   The &#8220;cool guy&#8221; Apple ads havn&#8217;t influenced me at all &#8211; in fact they make me cringe.   </p>
<p>I think one reason commercials are so forgettable is that the are still trying to sell the driving experience -zoom zoom, cars going fast around corners, cars going very fast along straight highways.    You don&#8217;t see anyone in an appliance commercial getting off using their washer/dryer &#8211; the emphasis is on making chores easier, not having fun doing laundry.     Cars are just transportation appliances.   Don&#8217;t try to make me think I&#8217;m going to have wonderful driving experiences if I buy a certain car.  </p>
<p>That brings us to unreality.   Why show me a truck driving up to the top of some spikey rock formation?   I never do that with my truck.   Show me the truck at Home Depot, and show me how much lumber I can get in the thing &#8211; that&#8217;s what I do with my truck.    </p>
<p>I live in a place where all the raods are laid out in grids.   Why show me a car whipping through S-curves?   I don&#8217;t want to do that in the first place, and even if I did, I&#8217;d have to go somewhere  else to do it.   </p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-90056</link>
		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone have a link on this oldie for our younger members?

Dustin Hofffman, A Volkswagen, Two Trunks.

Classic!

Nevermind, I found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9OoqkXiKEM</description>
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<p>Dustin Hofffman, A Volkswagen, Two Trunks.</p>
<p>Classic!</p>
<p>Nevermind, I found it.</p>
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		<title>By: theflyersfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>theflyersfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weren&#039;t those VW &quot;crash test&quot; ads real accidents done in a controlled environment? 

I&#039;m just a little too young to really remember the early-80&#039;s commercials, but my bookshelves at home show a lot of automotive history materials on them.  From what I understand, a lot of Americans really rallied behind the Lee Iacocca commercials.  We had oil shortages, a massive recession, high unemployment, and places like Detroit and Flint were fading.  Here comes this guy that looks like our grandfather asking us to buy American at a low price and we did.  I do remember the ads where it was obvious he was losing touch with the market (really, how many stretched K-Car models with vinyl roofs and velour puffy seats did they need) and I read that he was against the Viper being built...and there he was with his last commercial sitting in one saying that he wanted to go out with a bang.  He just connected - just like Joe Isuzu!

I&#039;m just floored Toyota is actually running ads about vehicles.  Most of their ads have consisted of a REALLY crappy cover of a crappier song with an image of a car spinning like a Red Bull-fueled four year old while they tell you the deal (and only the deal) for THIS WEEKEND ONLY!!!  (Cycle repeats on Monday.)  

Can I BE THE BIG BAD DADDY DAWG PLEASE????????  Sorry.  Just got lost looking at a Ford Super Duty grill in the commercial.  Proof positive that money can&#039;t buy taste and that you need a chrome grill the size of an interstate billboard to be considered a heavy- or super-duty truck.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m just a little too young to really remember the early-80&#8217;s commercials, but my bookshelves at home show a lot of automotive history materials on them.  From what I understand, a lot of Americans really rallied behind the Lee Iacocca commercials.  We had oil shortages, a massive recession, high unemployment, and places like Detroit and Flint were fading.  Here comes this guy that looks like our grandfather asking us to buy American at a low price and we did.  I do remember the ads where it was obvious he was losing touch with the market (really, how many stretched K-Car models with vinyl roofs and velour puffy seats did they need) and I read that he was against the Viper being built&#8230;and there he was with his last commercial sitting in one saying that he wanted to go out with a bang.  He just connected &#8211; just like Joe Isuzu!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just floored Toyota is actually running ads about vehicles.  Most of their ads have consisted of a REALLY crappy cover of a crappier song with an image of a car spinning like a Red Bull-fueled four year old while they tell you the deal (and only the deal) for THIS WEEKEND ONLY!!!  (Cycle repeats on Monday.)  </p>
<p>Can I BE THE BIG BAD DADDY DAWG PLEASE????????  Sorry.  Just got lost looking at a Ford Super Duty grill in the commercial.  Proof positive that money can&#8217;t buy taste and that you need a chrome grill the size of an interstate billboard to be considered a heavy- or super-duty truck.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously there was a Blade TV show. The movies were ok at best but a TV show, wow I&#039;m glad I have essentially sworn off TV except for the History channel. I guess that explains why I had no clue who  she was before Mercury. I used to enjoy watching TV ads when I was younger too, they were entertaining and funny at times. Now they seem to be as annoying as watching one of the propaganda news channels. There are a few gems but overall its become unwatchable, at least for me. I have way to many hobbies to waste hours in front of the idiot box, now if I could just get the rest of my family to wean off their addiction.

Is anyone else hating the site links after the last update. None of the links work like they used to and I find myself constantly clicking through pages. I hate the way it&#039;s going to bring me back to the beginning after I post this. The content has gotten way better though, I just miss how easy it was 2 weeks ago to get where you wanted to be.</description>
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<p>Is anyone else hating the site links after the last update. None of the links work like they used to and I find myself constantly clicking through pages. I hate the way it&#8217;s going to bring me back to the beginning after I post this. The content has gotten way better though, I just miss how easy it was 2 weeks ago to get where you wanted to be.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-90041</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baby M:

Thanks for posting the link to the VW &quot;Unpimp your automobile&quot; commercial. I had forgotten hwo good they were.

Actor playing German engineer, &quot;What does this do?&quot;

Kid, &quot;It sucks air.&quot;

Engineer&#039;s female assistant, &quot;It&#039;s certainly sucking.&quot;

Love it!</description>
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<p>Thanks for posting the link to the VW &#8220;Unpimp your automobile&#8221; commercial. I had forgotten hwo good they were.</p>
<p>Actor playing German engineer, &#8220;What does this do?&#8221;</p>
<p>Kid, &#8220;It sucks air.&#8221;</p>
<p>Engineer&#8217;s female assistant, &#8220;It&#8217;s certainly sucking.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Wagner was in the TV series Blade, from the Wesley Snipe film of the same name.

She was the only reason to watch it.</description>
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		<title>By: OhMyGoat</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-90030</link>
		<dc:creator>OhMyGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got to hand it to Ford&#039;s ad agency with their current TV spot for the &#039;08 Focus. With such a road toad on it&#039;s hands, the ad touts the Sync audio system and not much else. Exterior shots are limited to the front and rear only, nothing showing it&#039;s oh so attractive and proportionate profile.</description>
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		<title>By: brownie</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-90027</link>
		<dc:creator>brownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, I&#039;m just saying you could say the same about every ad touting the green credentials of any imported car, or any car really.  Like I said, any ad suggesting that anything other than taking the bus is helpful to the environment is a lie.  Singling out the Prius ad over ads for, say, the Civic, any Subaru, or even other Toyota products (remember that Echo ad with the clapping monkeys?) is an unfair criticism of the Prius and its ad.

It&#039;s not the Prius ad that&#039;s uniquely bad, it&#039;s the whole genre of ads that are collectively bad.

The Volt ad, by contrast, &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; uniquely bad, as it manages to tout the green credentials of a car that doesnt exist, may never exist, and simply &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; exist within the limits of current technology.  I&#039;ve never seen anything like that before... it has truly raised (lowered?) the bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Frank, I&#8217;m just saying you could say the same about every ad touting the green credentials of any imported car, or any car really.  Like I said, any ad suggesting that anything other than taking the bus is helpful to the environment is a lie.  Singling out the Prius ad over ads for, say, the Civic, any Subaru, or even other Toyota products (remember that Echo ad with the clapping monkeys?) is an unfair criticism of the Prius and its ad.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the Prius ad that&#8217;s uniquely bad, it&#8217;s the whole genre of ads that are collectively bad.</p>
<p>The Volt ad, by contrast, <em>is</em> uniquely bad, as it manages to tout the green credentials of a car that doesnt exist, may never exist, and simply <i>can&#8217;t</i> exist within the limits of current technology.  I&#8217;ve never seen anything like that before&#8230; it has truly raised (lowered?) the bar.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: StevieMcOldcars</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/are-auto-ads-a-forgettable-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-90011</link>
		<dc:creator>StevieMcOldcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VW Cabrio &quot;Pink Moon&quot; ad, that&#039;s the one that got me. I went right out and bought the Nick Drake album. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vptGhAUukc

Did it work for VW? One YouTube viewer writes &#039;funny, I remember thinking &quot;I wanna be in that car&quot; back when it came out...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The VW Cabrio &#8220;Pink Moon&#8221; ad, that&#8217;s the one that got me. I went right out and bought the Nick Drake album. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vptGhAUukc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vptGhAUukc</a></p>
<p>Did it work for VW? One YouTube viewer writes &#8216;funny, I remember thinking &#8220;I wanna be in that car&#8221; back when it came out&#8230;&#8217;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;brownie&lt;br /&gt; Nice editorial, but your specific criticisms of the Prius are unfair.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not criticizing the Prius. I&#039;m criticizing the Prius&lt;em&gt; &lt;u&gt;ad&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.  There&#039;s a big difference.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I know imports are sent here by ship.&#160; However, Toyota is going overboard (no pun intended) trying to make it look like they (in general) and the Prius (specifically) cause no harm to the environment when just getting them here from Japan has a tremendous impact..&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Batteries of any kind contain chemicals and metals that cannot be produced nor reclaimed in an environmentally-neutral manner. The only environmental benefit a Prius provides over other (non-hybrid) vehicles is reduced exhaust emissions.  That&#039;s it. In the ad, they&#039;re trying to make it look like a Prius can be build from natural materials, then recycled into the environment leaving no evidence it ever existed.  I&#039;m sorry, but it ain&#039;t so, and trying to portray it any other way is fraudulent.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p><em>brownie<br /> Nice editorial, but your specific criticisms of the Prius are unfair.</em></p>
<p>I&#39;m not criticizing the Prius. I&#39;m criticizing the Prius<em> <u>ad</u></em>.  There&#39;s a big difference.</p>
<p>I know imports are sent here by ship.&nbsp; However, Toyota is going overboard (no pun intended) trying to make it look like they (in general) and the Prius (specifically) cause no harm to the environment when just getting them here from Japan has a tremendous impact..</p>
<p>Batteries of any kind contain chemicals and metals that cannot be produced nor reclaimed in an environmentally-neutral manner. The only environmental benefit a Prius provides over other (non-hybrid) vehicles is reduced exhaust emissions.  That&#39;s it. In the ad, they&#39;re trying to make it look like a Prius can be build from natural materials, then recycled into the environment leaving no evidence it ever existed.  I&#39;m sorry, but it ain&#39;t so, and trying to portray it any other way is fraudulent.</p>
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		<title>By: brownie</title>
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		<dc:creator>brownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice editorial, but your specific criticisms of the Prius are unfair.  All imports are brought over on fume-spewing, diesel-burning ships, not to mention that they are carted from port to dealer by locomotives and trucks.  If you are going to not-so-subtly imply that such activities more than offset the Prius&#039; reduced operating emissions then you really ought to provide some data.  I seriously doubt it exists.

Ditto on your battery comment.  This is an oft-repeated claim, but I have yet to see any data on the damage caused by Prius batteries.  I seriously doubt this exists, too.  And besides, does this criticism not apply to every other hybrid model as well?

All car companies tout their green credentials these days fairly or not, and few models are truly unique in any way.  There is simply no way to criticize a single production car without criticizing several others.

Though I agree, it&#039;s a silly ad.  As are all ads in this vein - if you want to help the environment, take the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice editorial, but your specific criticisms of the Prius are unfair.  All imports are brought over on fume-spewing, diesel-burning ships, not to mention that they are carted from port to dealer by locomotives and trucks.  If you are going to not-so-subtly imply that such activities more than offset the Prius&#8217; reduced operating emissions then you really ought to provide some data.  I seriously doubt it exists.</p>
<p>Ditto on your battery comment.  This is an oft-repeated claim, but I have yet to see any data on the damage caused by Prius batteries.  I seriously doubt this exists, too.  And besides, does this criticism not apply to every other hybrid model as well?</p>
<p>All car companies tout their green credentials these days fairly or not, and few models are truly unique in any way.  There is simply no way to criticize a single production car without criticizing several others.</p>
<p>Though I agree, it&#8217;s a silly ad.  As are all ads in this vein &#8211; if you want to help the environment, take the bus.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AndyR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people reacting at all positively to the new CTS ads with Kate Walsh and Martin Henderson? (These in the States - not sure about int&#039;l broadcast) They strike me as a pretty good re-introduction of the Cadillac brand on its own merits...</description>
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