Comments on: ANPR: Big Brother is Alive and Well and Living in Manchester UK http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cretinx http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-441631 cretinx Wed, 21 May 2008 17:43:51 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-441631 so would that wonderful photo blocker spray shit and some full-body vinyls to change your car's color on a daily basis help out? so would that wonderful photo blocker spray shit and some full-body vinyls to change your car’s color on a daily basis help out?

]]> By: Facebook User http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-440912 Facebook User Wed, 21 May 2008 15:07:42 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-440912 The small "cameras" at intersections are just motion detectors that control the signals instead of pressure sensors buried in the pavement. Unless you are really paranoid and believe in government conspiracies of all kinds, then they are cameras following your every move. The small “cameras” at intersections are just motion detectors that control the signals instead of pressure sensors buried in the pavement. Unless you are really paranoid and believe in government conspiracies of all kinds, then they are cameras following your every move.

]]> By: KrisT http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-440252 KrisT Wed, 21 May 2008 12:43:58 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-440252 Well I may not like Big Brother but its not infallible. I have only just bothered to tax my car after two years of being on the road. I also have quite a few unpaid tickets and they havn't managed to catch up with me quite yet. No doubt I am a rash on somebodies computer Well I may not like Big Brother but its not infallible. I have only just bothered to tax my car after two years of being on the road. I also have quite a few unpaid tickets and they havn’t managed to catch up with me quite yet. No doubt I am a rash on somebodies computer

]]> By: esldude http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-439392 esldude Wed, 21 May 2008 00:34:50 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-439392 http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/telecoms/article3965033.ece This is about British plans to maintain a database of every single phone call, email, and internet session by the whole population for a year at a time. British gov't plans are obviously total surveillance of the population. Of all things pretty much exactly like Orwell's account in fiction. As the technology to do so improves it is clear the UK authorities will use it for any and all surveillance possible. Pity that so far it hasn't made anything safer or better while wasting lots of money imo. I think it is much less about terrorism and crime prevention than about gov't control of the population it fears. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/telecoms/article3965033.ece

This is about British plans to maintain a database of every single phone call, email, and internet session by the whole population for a year at a time.

British gov’t plans are obviously total surveillance of the population. Of all things pretty much exactly like Orwell’s account in fiction. As the technology to do so improves it is clear the UK authorities will use it for any and all surveillance possible. Pity that so far it hasn’t made anything safer or better while wasting lots of money imo. I think it is much less about terrorism and crime prevention than about gov’t control of the population it fears.

]]> By: Dynamic88 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438832 Dynamic88 Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:24 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438832 > Look to the UK to see what is next here (USA). Civil liberties anyone? I for one would not check them at the door for “more” security! Neither would I since we are in no greater danger now than we were in 2001. Maybe less. However, I don't believe there is much of a privacy argument with respect to public highways. What reasonable expectation of privacy is there? It's a public place. In my city we are having a similar "flap" over cameras in a local park. Some people are up in arms over being "spied" upon. But it's a public park. Anyone can go there and watch anyone else. > Look to the UK to see what is next here (USA). Civil liberties anyone? I for one would not check them at the door for “more” security!

Neither would I since we are in no greater danger now than we were in 2001. Maybe less.

However, I don’t believe there is much of a privacy argument with respect to public highways. What reasonable expectation of privacy is there? It’s a public place.

In my city we are having a similar “flap” over cameras in a local park. Some people are up in arms over being “spied” upon. But it’s a public park. Anyone can go there and watch anyone else.

]]> By: sitting@home http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438661 sitting@home Tue, 20 May 2008 19:44:52 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438661 <em>Qwerty : Why does every intersection in america seem to have cameras looking in every direction?South Jersey anyway. I have wondered about that. We have them all over Utah too. What are they? Where does the video go?</em> Aren't they motion detectors that trip the lights ? Probably less expensive than burying inductive loops or physical triggers in the ground. Qwerty :

Why does every intersection in america seem to have cameras looking in every direction?South Jersey anyway.

I have wondered about that. We have them all over Utah too. What are they? Where does the video go?

Aren’t they motion detectors that trip the lights ? Probably less expensive than burying inductive loops or physical triggers in the ground.

]]> By: matt http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438571 matt Tue, 20 May 2008 19:21:29 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438571 "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

- Ben Franklin

]]> By: Qwerty http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438451 Qwerty Tue, 20 May 2008 18:52:39 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438451 <i>Why does every intersection in america seem to have cameras looking in every direction?South Jersey anyway.</i> I have wondered about that. We have them all over Utah too. What are they? Where does the video go? Why does every intersection in america seem to have cameras looking in every direction?South Jersey anyway.

I have wondered about that. We have them all over Utah too. What are they? Where does the video go?

]]> By: dean http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438432 dean Tue, 20 May 2008 18:49:44 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438432 People will continue to rationalize this continual descent into a surveilance state right up until the jackboots of a dictator's security forces are pressed onto their necks. Tyrany will come at the hands of otherwise well-meaning people. People will continue to rationalize this continual descent into a surveilance state right up until the jackboots of a dictator’s security forces are pressed onto their necks.

Tyrany will come at the hands of otherwise well-meaning people.

]]> By: seabrjim http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438281 seabrjim Tue, 20 May 2008 18:20:25 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438281 Why does every intersection in america seem to have cameras looking in every direction?South Jersey anyway. Must be for the traffic, yeah, thats it. Even in the desolate intersections with no traffic, look up, there they are! When is the facial recognition software going to be installed? Remember the super bowl some years back when it was used and they told the public afterward, presumably to gauge reaction and outrage, or lack thereof? Maybe Orwells 1984 and Animal Farm should be required reading. And the sheeple go about their business... Why does every intersection in america seem to have cameras looking in every direction?South Jersey anyway. Must be for the traffic, yeah, thats it. Even in the desolate intersections with no traffic, look up, there they are! When is the facial recognition software going to be installed? Remember the super bowl some years back when it was used and they told the public afterward, presumably to gauge reaction and outrage, or lack thereof? Maybe Orwells 1984 and Animal Farm should be required reading. And the sheeple go about their business…

]]> By: raast http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438142 raast Tue, 20 May 2008 17:54:29 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438142 @picard234... So the teen here is in the wrong?? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/20/city_london_scientology_protest_summons/ (just one of many examples btw) Listen to "For What it's Worth" from the 60's - hey I remember those days. The lyrics really stand up to the test of time. @picard234…

So the teen here is in the wrong??

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/20/city_london_scientology_protest_summons/

(just one of many examples btw)

Listen to “For What it’s Worth” from the 60’s – hey I remember those days. The lyrics really stand up to the test of time.

]]> By: bunkie http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438061 bunkie Tue, 20 May 2008 17:34:10 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438061 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

]]> By: Antone http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-438012 Antone Tue, 20 May 2008 17:19:59 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-438012 Look to the UK to see what is next here (USA). Civil liberties anyone? I for one would not check them at the door for “more” security! Look to the UK to see what is next here (USA). Civil liberties anyone? I for one would not check them at the door for “more” security!

]]> By: Orian http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-437891 Orian Tue, 20 May 2008 16:17:56 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-437891 You know, as the surveillance increases the likely hood that someone will do something does too...and in a low tech manner. Do terrorists really need cars to get around? How about electronics? Have you seen the nut cases in Afghanistan lately? They tend to walk, bike, or ride a camel/mule/whatever has four legs and can carry them. Or they hitch a ride. You know, as the surveillance increases the likely hood that someone will do something does too…and in a low tech manner.

Do terrorists really need cars to get around? How about electronics? Have you seen the nut cases in Afghanistan lately? They tend to walk, bike, or ride a camel/mule/whatever has four legs and can carry them. Or they hitch a ride.

]]> By: picard234 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-437882 picard234 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:17:05 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/anpr-big-brother-is-alive-and-well-and-living-in-manchester-uk/#comment-437882 If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. If you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.

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