Comments on: 3WTP (What’s Wrong With This Picture?): Essen Edition

By: woodicw

woodicw — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:44:13 +0000

I’m not saying the fiat is a bad car or the challenger is a good car. I think the opposite in fact. I love the fiat and from what I’ve seen, mostly just a top gear review, its amazing. The challenger is just a shorter two door challenger with a manual gearbox(optional) and new skin. I’m just pointing out that america’s problem isn’t that they have to bring back old designs, its that they’re manufacturing processes are so wasteful that they can’t afford to produce a car worth driving. and chrysler couldn’t tell a good design if it punched them right in the nuts.

By: Robert Frankfurter

Robert Frankfurter — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:42:16 +0000

woodicw :
December 15th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

right cuz the fiat 500 is so 21st century. oh wait, no its not, its blast from the past just like the challenger

The very innovative extremely elegant styled, especially the interior is stunning, new Fiat 500 (and especially the upcoming ev version) has so much in common with the once loved vintage Fiat 500 as the famous Ford T has in common with a Ford Edge 2009.
Not a bit
This cannot be said from the Challenger
Provided you sat in both of course – otherwise your naturally guessing only

By: woodicw

woodicw — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:46:36 +0000

right cuz the fiat 500 is so 21st century. oh wait, no its not, its blast from the past just like the challenger

By: barberoux

barberoux — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:39:01 +0000

American car manufacturers are looking to the past for future sales since they haven’t had a innovative idea since then. They’re thinking what can we do to show that we are ready to face the challenges of the 21st century. Let’s build a car from the ‘60s!

By: CarPerson

CarPerson — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:03:28 +0000

Nothing wrong that I can see. Wards Auto World talks a good story and the six pics more than tell me I need one in the driveway.

http://wardsauto.com/testdrive/winning_formula_challenger_081125/

By: Diewaldo

Diewaldo — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:27:26 +0000

Hmm. I too would have taken a picture. You won’t see a Charger more than perhaps once a year on German streets.

Even a Corvette is much harder to find on German roads than a Ferrari. This explains all the fuzz here.

American cars are really “niche vehicles” over here.

By: VerbalKint

VerbalKint — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:57:08 +0000

What’s wrong…?
Crysler’s suppliers don’t have a repo crew hauling it onto a flatbed…

By: ddorrer

ddorrer — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:11:20 +0000

The two gents in the foreground are discussing the “fahrvergnuegen” of driving an overpriced AmeriKan (emphasis on the K) hemi from a company about to go bankrupt, and how they can afford the european road tax based on its horsepower.

By: Sajeev Mehta

Sajeev Mehta — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:17 +0000

That the press actually thinks this is worth covering?

By: Lokki

Lokki — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:41:39 +0000

Zarba -

Ouch! That’s going to leave a mark…. :-) I think you’re the thread winner !

By: Zarba

Zarba — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:05:04 +0000

As it got colder and colder, the orange dinosaur looked at the small, furry, white rodent and wondered, “What is that thing?”.

By: Robert Frankfurter

Robert Frankfurter — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:00 +0000

That the Italians dont market the Fiat 500 Abarth in volumes outside Italy is, exactly in that times as present, a huge mistake.

Fiat 500 Abarth is a truly great car – as small as it is.
And very much affordable one

Not only for the city but on mountainous curvy and narrow turns and alleys the tiny “white cannonball” nice handling the up to 200 horsepower engine, even through Rally terrain, is hardly beatable.

The Fiat 500 Abarth is compared to the Challenger a long time technology ripe, modern, proven, price-worthy, useful and extreme economic means of transport for ma and pa – besides a full blown race car, if you command it.
And have the guts for it. Ask an Italian if he does :-)

And if you think there is no question who has more space for passenger and is superior in comfort in one of the (in pure size indeed very different) cars try both side by side, think again
- and try the seats.
The sporty Abarth one you will find probably far superior.

You dont just get in the Fiat 500 Abarth – you pull it on like a glove.

By: Lokki

Lokki — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:52:24 +0000

My guesses:

The only two guys who look interested in the car about about 106 years old. The younger guy is more interested in the floor than the Challenger.

The original Challenger disaster wasn’t orange.

By: NickR

NickR — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:51:03 +0000

It looks as though the Challenger has an ‘01′ on the hood. A reference to the General Lee?

By: AJ

AJ — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:50:13 +0000

No matter Chrysler’s problems, the Challenger is still one of the coolest cars in sometime. They did this one right. Screw the mpg.

By: andrichrose

andrichrose — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:30:48 +0000

The red car returns approx 12mpg and there are
car lots full of unsold ones!

The white car returns approx 45 mpg and even here
in italy there is a waiting list for one !

By: JG

JG — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:30:27 +0000

Or anywhere else.

By: RayH

RayH — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:28:24 +0000

What’s wrong with the pic is they won’t be selling the Challenger in Europe.

By: Sanman111

Sanman111 — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:28:06 +0000

The white car is a Fiat 500 Abarth. What is wrong with the picture? A better question would be what isn’t wrong with it. However, the photog in the lower left hand corner appears to be taking a head on shot of the Challenger. An incredibly stupid idea seeing as how the display is for wheels, tires, suspension,etc you can not see those components from that angle.

By: brndn81

brndn81 — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:26:13 +0000

The toyos on the Challenger have orange sidewalls. Pumpkin tires are sooo last October.

Also, there are no car show girls. Without them, what’s the point?

By: Robert Frankfurter

Robert Frankfurter — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:16:51 +0000

Folks upper left are standing in front of a interesting small white car

- the new Fiat 500 ?
- Mercedes?
- Honda?
As EV?

By: Detroit-X

Detroit-X — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:12:40 +0000

1. No $5000 rebate sign on the Challenger.
2. Only one Challenger in stock.
3. People actually interested in the Challenger.

By: John R

John R — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:11:44 +0000

Do I get two guesses?

Chrysis is either not selling in Germany or is pulling out.

The (what looks like) Abarth Fiat to the left is more interesting.