Bark's Bites: Regulators, Mount Up!

Mark "Bark M." Baruth
by Mark "Bark M." Baruth

It pains me greatly, dear readers, to say what I’m about to say. Those of you who regularly follow my writing know how I lean when it comes to politics. However, given the current state of the auto dealership world, I have no choice. I gotta admit it — I agree with Elizabeth Warren on something.

Good ol’ P…er, Senator Warren and I both agree that there needs to be more oversight of the automotive lending business. Part of my day job is to educate new automotive advertising sales representatives about the car sales industry, and when I get to the part of the day where I tell them about how the Finance and Insurance office works, I always give them the following warning:

“Guys, if you don’t know about how car loans work, you’re about to get very, very angry.”

So I’ll give you the same warning, friends. I’m going to share about the predatory lending practices that go on behind the scenes, and I’ll tell you what I think should be done to stop it.

Let’s say you’re Suzy SubPrime, and you want to buy yourself the latest and greatest CUV from Maibatsu. You don’t have the worst credit in the world, but you know that you’ve missed a payment or two along the way, so you’re a little bit nervous about whether or not you might get approved on a loan. After you pick out your dream car from the lot, you find yourself in a very confusing office, where the man sitting behind the desk looks less like a salesman and more like a banker, which intimidates you more than a little bit.

You fidget as you sit in your chair and watch as he murmurs quite a bit, shaking his head as he scratches out some numbers from his computer screen (which you can’t see). After several more uncomfortable moments, he sighs and says, “The best we could get you approved for is 6.9 percent, but luckily that still fits your payment that you told your salesman that you could afford.”

Breathing a sigh of relief, you sign whatever papers are put in front of you, and drive home happily with your new ride.

Here’s what really happened.

The finance office is designed to confuse and intimidate you. There’s nobody offering you popcorns or drinks, no colorful balloons and cheery music. There’s just you and a ton of paperwork that they genuinely hope that you don’t read. You’ll be given a Truth in Lending disclosure, which is required by law. It tells you what your Annual Percentage Rate is, the total cost of your financing, the amount financed, and the total of the payments.

However, what it doesn’t tell you is what your Buy Rate from the lender was, and what the bump in your rate was. In 2016, the average bump for consumers financing through a dealership was 2.5 percent.

This should be the part where you get very, very angry.

Yes, that’s right — the dealer doesn’t have to (and most likely won’t) give you the actual rate that the lender has approved you for, and in many states in the union, there’s no limit to how much the dealer can add in interest. It’s in his best interest to get you bumped as much as he can, because the dealership gets to keep the majority, if not all, of that money.

Your average car buyer has no idea about this. Maybe you do, Mr. Educated TTAC Reader, but when I get to this point in my training workshops, there is genuine shock and outrage from my employees — and these aren’t low income individuals. These are career sales professionals, many of whom are earning in the six-figure range. Nearly unanimously, the sentiment expressed is along the lines of, “I really wish that I had known this before I bought my last car!”

Senator Warren wants auto lending to fall under the jurisdiction of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a federal agency created in the aftermath of the 2009 financial crisis. While the CFPB can and does regulate loans that take place outside the four walls of the car dealership, they have no power over what happens inside. The Bureau did, however, issue a warning memo to dealerships back in 2013, advising them that hiking the rates of minorities more than their white counterparts would be seen as a discriminatory practice. As a result of this memo, Ally Financial was forced to pay $98 million to settle claims that the average black car buyer was charged $300 more over the course of his loan than the average white buyer with the same credit score.

So what should be done? I say we should introduce federal legislation capping the amount that a loan can be bumped to 2 percent. I also say that the Truth in Lending statement should disclose the buy rate that was offered by the bank, any additional markup by the dealer, and the amount of money that the consumer will pay as a result of this markup.

B-b-b-b-but, says the dealer, that will cost me thousands in back end profit! I don’t know if that’s necessarily true. Once customers are educated on the nature of auto lending, they might be encouraged to go loan shopping, yes, but most customers understand there is profit on the front end of a car sale, and yet you’re still making money on your used car sales.

In fact, there’s no ethical reason that a customer shouldn’t be made aware that he’s not getting the best possible rate that he can get. Customers assume — and F&I managers often straight up say — that the reason their F&I guy is sweating is so hard is that he’s working his hardest to get the customer the best deal. Negative. He’s working hard to find the bank that will give him the best deal, so he can bump you as much as possible and keep you in a comfortable payment.

The best thing about this legislation, however, is that it would force the National Automobile Dealers Association to have to lobby against it, exposing them for the snakes that they are.

So go on with your bad self, Liz. I got your back.

[Image: Edward Kimmel/ Flickr ( CC BY-SA 2.0)]

Mark "Bark M." Baruth
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  • Cpthaddock Cpthaddock on Feb 09, 2018

    Congratulations, Mark! The reality based community urges you to continue this journey towards us and welcomes these tentative steps away from the realms of absurd right wing trollery!

  • JimBot JimBot on Feb 12, 2018

    Mark, Well written and concise article, and frankly this sentence sums it all up so nicely.. "The best thing about this legislation, however, is that it would force the National Automobile Dealers Association to have to lobby against it, exposing them for the snakes that they are." Lobbying firms in general, as well as the senators that ally with them ARE snakes, and so are the companies that employ them. Rarely is a time when a company has anything but their own profits in mind, they hire a lobbyist, the lobbyist and the company WRITE THE LAW - and they find a senator to push it on some BS platform that makes no sense. I work in state government, and I always say if people REALLY knew how the sausage was made ... look out. I'm going to actually say this, as absurd as it sounds; The government, at ALL levels (Local, state, federal) is in fact.. run by the corporations, man. JimBot

  • TheMrFreeze That new Ferrari looks nice but other than that, nothing.And VW having to put an air-cooled Beetle in its display to try and make the ID.Buzz look cool makes this classic VW owner sad 😢
  • Wolfwagen Is it me or have auto shows just turned to meh? To me, there isn't much excitement anymore. it's like we have hit a second malaise era. Every new vehicle is some cookie-cutter CUV. No cutting-edge designs. No talk of any great powertrains, or technological achievements. It's sort of expected with the push to EVs but there is no news on that front either. No new battery tech, no new charging tech. Nothing.
  • CanadaCraig You can just imagine how quickly the tires are going to wear out on a 5,800 lbs AWD 2024 Dodge Charger.
  • Luke42 I tried FSD for a month in December 2022 on my Model Y and wasn’t impressed.The building-blocks were amazing but sum of the all of those amazing parts was about as useful as Honda Sensing in terms of reducing the driver’s workload.I have a list of fixes I need to see in Autopilot before I blow another $200 renting FSD. But I will try it for free for a month.I would love it if FSD v12 lived up to the hype and my mind were changed. But I have no reason to believe I might be wrong at this point, based on the reviews I’ve read so far. [shrug]. I’m sure I’ll have more to say about it once I get to test it.
  • FormerFF We bought three new and one used car last year, so we won't be visiting any showrooms this year unless a meteor hits one of them. Sorry to hear that Mini has terminated the manual transmission, a Mini could be a fun car to drive with a stick.It appears that 2025 is going to see a significant decrease in the number of models that can be had with a stick. The used car we bought is a Mk 7 GTI with a six speed manual, and my younger daughter and I are enjoying it quite a lot. We'll be hanging on to it for many years.
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