SEAT And The Killer MQBs

Derek Kreindler
by Derek Kreindler

We know that the new MQB Golfs are bloody huge inside. If you need all of that, plus more space, more power and none of the added weight of the Golf R Sportwagen’s AWD system, SEAT has something for you non-American readers.

The SEAT Leon ST Cupra will be cheaper than the equivalent Golf Wagon, but it won’t have AWD, or the extra 16 horsepower. You can get a manual or a DSG, and 60 seconds come up in just 5.7 seconds. If you live in Mexico, Europe or elsewhere, game on.




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  • Marcin Laszuk Marcin Laszuk on Jan 09, 2015

    I don't know if there is currently a make any less relevant than Seat. Just after VW bought them, they did okay because they used trusted VW tech but at a lower price. Then VW tried to establish Skoda as its value brand and make Seat the sporty one, an Alfa Romeo of their own, if you will. A sporty make which produced 3 run-of-the-mill small hatchbacks (Arosa, Ibiza, Leon), two equally forgettable small sedans (Cordoba, Toledo), a minivan (Alhambra), and a supermini-based delivery van (Inca), all styled in a traditionally Volkswagen, boring fashion! No models larger than Jetta (apart from Alhambra), no models unique to their make (all were rebadged VWs or largely based thereon), not even one particularly sporty model - apart from the Cupra versions of Ibiza and Leon but practically everybody offered high-performance versions of their hatchbacks back then so it's not like they were unique. Meanwhile, people got wise and noticed that if they wanted to have a VW on a budget, Skoda's got them covered better than Seat. Skoda exploded in popularity. What did Seat do? They introduced a lineup of minivan-styled vehicles WHILE TRYING TO KEEP THE SPORTY VIBE. They really thought they could pull it off. Guess what? The sales tanked, and what did they do? They introduced a traditional, Audi A4-based sedan. Sounds good, right? PREVIOUS GEN A4-BASED. That's right, they tried to gain market share by offering a decontented, outdated platform even though even Skoda got the latest tech! Now their lineup consists of 2 models based on VW and priced between them and Skoda while having no more brand cachet than the Czechs (Mii and Leon), one cheaper equivalent to a VW but in a declining segment (Alhambra), one rebadged and more expensive Skoda (Toledo), a previous-gen supermini (Ibiza) and a minivan that debuted in 2004(!) (Altea). It's just a matter of time before Seat becomes relegated to the status of a low-volume maker operating in a few select markets before folding completely. Automotive history knows of many such examples - Lancia, Autobianchi, Innocenti, Rover, and other British makes come to mind. It's not a surprise then that VW was/is interested in buying Alfa Romeo. They know their Seat experiment has failed and they can't get any more mileage out of the failing division.

    • Dtremit Dtremit on Jan 09, 2015

      Whoever manages brand segments at VAG is smoking something excellent. See also the incessant effort to make VW into a duplicate of Audi.

  • Brettc Brettc on Jan 09, 2015

    Forget scantily clad women (which sadly have been few and far between since Mr Volkswagen left). That picture is all I need to get through the day. Too bad I can't buy either one of them.

  • CanadaCraig You can just imagine how quickly the tires are going to wear out on a 5,800 lbs AWD 2024 Dodge Charger.
  • Luke42 I tried FSD for a month in December 2022 on my Model Y and wasn’t impressed.The building-blocks were amazing but sum of the all of those amazing parts was about as useful as Honda Sensing in terms of reducing the driver’s workload.I have a list of fixes I need to see in Autopilot before I blow another $200 renting FSD. But I will try it for free for a month.I would love it if FSD v12 lived up to the hype and my mind were changed. But I have no reason to believe I might be wrong at this point, based on the reviews I’ve read so far. [shrug]. I’m sure I’ll have more to say about it once I get to test it.
  • FormerFF We bought three new and one used car last year, so we won't be visiting any showrooms this year unless a meteor hits one of them. Sorry to hear that Mini has terminated the manual transmission, a Mini could be a fun car to drive with a stick.It appears that 2025 is going to see a significant decrease in the number of models that can be had with a stick. The used car we bought is a Mk 7 GTI with a six speed manual, and my younger daughter and I are enjoying it quite a lot. We'll be hanging on to it for many years.
  • Oberkanone Where is the value here? Magna is assembling the vehicles. The IP is not novel. Just buy the IP at bankruptcy stage for next to nothing.
  • Jalop1991 what, no Turbo trim?
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