By on July 24, 2014

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First it was Mitsubishi that inked a deal with Renault Samsung to bring their wares over here as Mitsubishi branded cars. Now Fiat is getting into the action, by having Renault produce an unspecified commercial vehicle.

Renault and Fiat announced a vaguely worded deal to have Renault build a commercial vehicle for Fiat starting in 2016. There is no indication of what it could be, but now that the Ram ProMaster lineup is firmly Fiat-based, it’s not out of the question. Between that and the Samsung SM5, we’ll have an even better idea of all of the wonderful oddities currently off limits to our unsophisticated automotive palates…

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30 Comments on “Which Will Be Our First Renault? Mitsubishi Or Ram?...”


  • avatar
    thelaine

    I won’t buy until Daewoo and Vauxhall sign on.

    • 0 avatar
      jkk6

      Scarcasm? Beacuse 500k GM/Daewoo Cruze’s are already cruising the streets of North America since 2012.

      • 0 avatar
        thelaine

        Yeah jkk, just kidding. It is funny to me for some reason to see Renault/Samsung/Mitsubishi, even though this sort of thing has been going on for a long time. The first car I actually owned was a Dodge Colt, which was a rebadged Mitsubishi something or other.

        I love damn near all cars, but I am the first to admit that what I don’t know about cars greatly exceeds what I do know.

        I had to Google Samsung today to learn about their involvement with Nissan and Renault. Had no idea….

        • 0 avatar
          jkk6

          Samsung has been wantiing to put wheels on their frides and washers for quite some time now. I recall paparatzi pics of Mr. Lee leaisurely testing 3 Merc SL’s, specifically a regular 500, amg63 and and amg65. Hopefully LG will sell them batteries in the near future for Samsung’s EV’s which I doubt will ever happen on either side.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            @jkk6

            I wish the Koreans made/imported small pickup trucks and/or Jeep-like vehicles into the US. I have been impressed with the quality/value proposition of their cars. I am just not in the market right now for the cars they offer in the US.

            I have a Samsung Note 3 phone, which is great, and a Samsung fridge, which is also great. When it is time to replace my crappy washing machine I’m going straight to LG or Samsung. Same with the big screen TV. Korea is on a roll as far as I’m concerned. They are eating Japan’s lunch in a lot of areas, in my opinion.

          • 0 avatar

            Over here(the Netherlands), where Renault is a popular brand, quality has improved when they started working with Samsung. Renaults used to be haunted by electrical woes, but since 2003/4 it has disappeared, probably thanks to samsung electronics used inside. SM5 is sold over here as a Renault Latitude (looks nice), and another oddball is the Renault Koleos, which has been hugely impopular here, it’s not even sold anymore, but available in neighbouring countries. In my opinion, the Mitsu deal to bring samsungs to the US is great, you guys finally get Renaults of some sort. Personally, I’m lusting for a few Renaults. Haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but it’ll have to happen one day.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            Servaas

            Would you tell me what it is about Renault that makes them so attractive to you vs. a typical Japanese car I might be more familiar with? Do they make a hot little rally style car, for example? (That WOULD be cool.)

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Servaas are you sure it’s Samsung who improved Renault – or is it Nissan who improved Renault?

            I’m gonna go with the latter option.

  • avatar
    vrtowc

    Well… long established cooperation between Fiat and PSA on commercial vehicles and minivans has ended and time has come for new Italian-French tie-up. In the past, Fiat developed and produced smaller (Fiorino, Doblo) and bigger commercial vehicles (gazillion Ducato variants now reborn in USA as RAM ProMaster) whereas PSA developed and produced the middle-sized Scudo. So it would seem logical that the later needs to be replaced but there is nothing appropriate in the house to take this role. Above pictured Trafic fits this role best, although perhaps a little bigger than Scudo. As it is not the newest kid in town I guess it is to be replaced soon and it would seem appropriate if the cooperation started with the new generation.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    The SM5 is nothing special, really. No different or better than an Impala rental.

    • 0 avatar
      jkk6

      Better than an Altima, smaller than a US Maxima.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Teana

      Always intrigued at how good Samsung/Renault marketed the SM5 against Kia Optimas and Hyundai Sonatas. I’ve noticed younger genereation Koreans were less embarassed driving this over a Sonata, until the Optima/K5 showed up circa 2008-2010 and then played out getting the nick name “civilian hauler”.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        The Samsung versions have very underwhelming interiors! That Teana interior as pictured is worlds away from the SM5 one with the scratchy plastic and rattly everything.

      • 0 avatar
        lutecia

        Whereas previous generation of SM5 was a facelifted Nissan, the current one has been developped from a slightly stretched Renault Laguna platform.
        The SM7 (Renault Talisman) is the same platform, stretched a bit more.
        The SM3 (Renault Fluence) is based on the Renault Mégane.
        QM3 is a Renault Captur, QM5 is a Renault Koleos, soon replaced by something similar to the new Rogue

        If Renault hasn’t ditched the Samsung brand name (officially it’s called “Renault Samsung Motors”), it’s because it is quite popular (not as popular as the Renault name, you imagine why) and Renault is paying a lot of money to keep using the Samsung name (I’ve read somewhere it was around 1500$ per car).

        Thinking that these cars are any different than the Renaults is quite wrong. Renault is a global company after all :)

  • avatar
    steamcorners

    Thought our first Renault was the Nissan Versa.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Wasn’t our first Renault the Nissan Quest?

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        The Quest was a JV between Nissan and Ford. I don’t think it was very Renaulty. Which reminds me, I haven’t seen a Nautica Villager in forever.

        The Renault-Nissan alliance wasn’t until the late 90s.

        • 0 avatar
          CoreyDL

          Not that one! The Quest which happened after the Mercury one.

          BTW, I do like the Nautica Villager, and I think those later versions of that particular Quest aged very well. I just saw one yesterday and it still looked modern -pic below-. (Larger headlamps version with chunky grille.)

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Quest#mediaviewer/File:2001-2002_Nissan_Quest_GLE_–_03-16-2012_2.JPG

          The one AFTER the one pictured is the Renaulty one I’ve always thought, related to the Espace.

  • avatar
    heavy handle

    Commercial van re-badges are very common in Europe. Mercedes is selling a small Renault van, Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen have a van, as do Opel/Renault/Nissan.
    I think the main reason is that commercial users like to single-source their purchases, but it’s not worth it for every conglomerate to offer something in every segment. MB, VW, GM, Renault, Peugeot, Fiat can’t each design, develop and build what amounts to a big white box. You’d never get economies of scale that way.

  • avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    That roofline is an abortion.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      “We have this nice line here and we could just make it a little tall…”

      “NO, STOP!”

    • 0 avatar
      Perc

      You don’t buy one of these for the striking design. I drive one exactly as pictured, except the corporate livery. It’s ugly, but I don’t care because it’s nice to drive and has an interior that’s well thought out and spacious.

      You won’t get that one either way though because it’s a decade old and finally going out of production.

  • avatar
    Brian P

    I have a request for the first Renault in the North American market (the first one in decades, anyhow):

    Twingo.

    Don’t care if they call it a Mitsubishi, Nissan, or any Chrysler brand. I still want one. Don’t care what they call it.

  • avatar
    bill mcgee

    I’ve seen these a couple of times here in Houston , Renault something- or other with Mexican plates .

  • avatar
    lutecia

    Makes me think about a great trivia for your next dinner party.

    Can you name the 3 cars made in France that you can buy in the US ?
    * Smart ForTwo
    * Toyota Yaris
    * Bugatti Veyron

    Soon there may be a Ram one.
    Kudos to the people who know these 3 or 4 cars :)


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