By on June 27, 2014

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The Jeep Grand Cherokee received a diesel option earlier this year, but don’t look for the Cherokee to get one any time soon – at least not in North America.

Speaking to Automotive News, Manley said that while the Grand Cherokee diesel take rate is about 8 percent, that number would have to increase before the Cherokee could get a diesel

“Cherokee is slightly different because of its weight and size. When I think about bringing Cherokee diesel here, I would like to see Grand Cherokee diesel get much higher than 8 percent…It would have to be in mid-double digits.”

While a diesel Cherokee likely has many fans on the internet, reality is more complex. A diesel Cherokee would have to sell in sufficient numbers to meet very stringent U.S. regulations, and would have to come in at a pricepoint that is palatable to American buyers. In the Grand Cherokee, the diesel carries a $4,500 premium.

There’s also the matter of capacity. With Jeep building about 250,000 units globally at its Toledo, Ohio plant, they may not have room to mess with the current model mix by adding a diesel. The Cherokee may not be tops on the compact CUV sales charts, sales are brisk and inventories are well controlled. Jeep is likely selling every Cherokee they can produce for the U.S. market, and a diesel may not be necessary – yet.

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22 Comments on “Don’t Hold Your Breath For A Diesel Jeep Cherokee...”


  • avatar
    LeMansteve

    Jeep once offered the Liberty with a diesel in the USA. I guess it’s poor sales aren’t helping the Cherokee’s case here.

    • 0 avatar
      mkirk

      I think it was like an 8,000 dollar option and it had some nasty EGR issues or something if I remember.

      • 0 avatar
        RedStapler

        I bought a 2006 Liberty CRD Sport in July of 2006. IIRC the Diesel engine was ~$3k more over the 3.7 V6 with similar equipment after all the rebates. Pre 07 Diesels didn’t have the cost burden of all the emissions control hardware and had lest of a cost burden.

  • avatar
    RobertRyan

    Then the best selling Jeep in Australia is a Grand Cherokee with a Diesel

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al from Oz

      @RobertRyan
      Also, the Pentastar powered Wrangler are viewed as fuel guzzlers. The Pentastar in them don’t quite live up to expectations.

      I read a review and they stated that the reviewers used about 40% more fuel than FCAs claimed 11.4 litre per 100km.

      “Claiming 11.7L/100km from the factory, over our week with the car we averaged 15.8L/100km.”

      There are also a few negatives regarding the vehicle. If the Wrangler is going to be slated for the “global” market Fiat has some work on it’s hands to produce a decent vehicle for everyday use.

      Cut and paste from review. But it’s not all bad, it’s okay off road, but uses lots of fuel. A 2.8 diesel would be a far better engine for the Wrangler, along with some decent on road manners.

      “Before we continue, though, let’s first address some glaring negatives. For driving on the road, the Jeep Wrangler Freedom is a hard sell. The ride is firm and busy, there’s constant chassis shimmying as it rides on bumps rather than absorbing them, and it simply refuses to settle when covering rough or pockmarked blacktop.

      It doesn’t stop there, either, as vague steering teams with a wandering front end and significant body roll to reduce behind-wheel confidence, further hindered by tall 75-aspect 17-inch Goodyear Wrangler tyres prone to sliding on wet roads. The Wrangler’s everyday practicality is also thwarted by doors and a tailgate that require Hulk-like efforts to ensure they close securely, a huge 13.1m turning circle, wide guards, boxy dimensions (4751mm long x 1877mm wide), a tailgate-mounted full-size spare wheel and a large front bumper protrusion – the latter between 335mm and 350mm beyond the Freedom’s uniquely coloured grille.

      Parking? Good luck. If ever there was a vehicle that warranted (read: mandated) the standard inclusion of a reversing camera or at least parking sensors, the Jeep Wrangler Freedom is it. If you live in or near the city and are after a pleasant higher-riding experience, you’ll be content spending at least $10k less for a Mazda CX-5, Honda CR-V or Kia Sportage. And if you just want to pose around in a cool-looking 4×4-esque vehicle, drop between $50-80k-odd and buy either a Range Rover Evoque or the new Mercedes-Benz GLA.”

      Link;

      http://www.caradvice.com.au/286363/2014-jeep-wrangler-review-freedom-special-edition/

  • avatar
    jpolicke

    Jeep should do a diesel Wrangler first. Civilianize the J-8.

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      They already offer the Wrangler with a diesel in Australia

      • 0 avatar
        mkirk

        Congratufukinlations…you want a cookie?

        • 0 avatar
          thelaine

          No, Australian cookies are already far superior. American cookies may have been fine 50 years ago, but American cookies are now only good as livestock feed, except for versions which are made in Australia, which are the best in the world.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al from Oz

            @thelaine
            I finally disagree with you.

            I do think America has some cookies that are better.

            What you call a cookie we call a biscuit. What you call a biscuit we call a scone (or the closest thing to a scone).

            What you call jello we call jelly. What you call jelly we call jam. We don’t have jelly as such in Australia because of some regulation stipulating a 40% fruit content (conserve).

            Even when Pch101 uses the term “bogan” he should realize bogan’s only live in suburban Brisbane and no where else.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            BigAl
            Ha! Now I no where to live when I move there.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al from Oz

            @thelaine
            Here’s a bogan that is drivin a FJ Cruiser. I suppose if they drive a FJ Cruiser they’d be bound to drive a diesel Cherokee.

            I hope it works, quite an accurate depiction.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            Awesome B.A. Fit right in at the ol’ King’s Manor Mobile Estates.

  • avatar
    anti121hero

    The liberty crd was the only liberty I would consider buying. This however.. I don’t care if they offer a 6.4 v8 in it, I think they should kill it off.

  • avatar
    sitting@home

    I WILL be holding my breath if they DO start selling a Diesel Cherokee. Living next to a high school I already put up with a mass of soccer moms idling their CUVs in order to keep the A/C running for an hour before classes end. Add in some Diesels and I’ll probably be getting frequent visitor discounts on the emphysema doctor’s co-payment.

    • 0 avatar
      Kenmore

      Oh, God, there’s a memory I didn’t need.

      I worked one summer in a garage at the steel mill keeping diesel vehicles in service before moving up to the Met Lab. Ventilation nil, constant exhaust fumes choking me, steady nausea.

      I have despised that pungent stench through all these years.

  • avatar
    Lynn E.

    Can some of you answer a few questions about diesel engines?

    1. Here in the US diesel fuel costs more, is this true all over the world?
    2. Does cleaning and refining oil to make diesel fuel more difficult than making gasoline?
    3. Since a diesel engine has to be stronger and heavier, since the diesel fuel costs more, since the higher compression necessary to burn diesel makes more noise, and since the heavier engine/higher compression makes a slow revving engine what advantage is there to a diesel powered vehicle?

    I can understand that using harder to burn diesel fuel in ship engines, locomotives, and very large trucks may reduce fire danger compared to gasoline but is there any other advantage?

    • 0 avatar
      Sigivald

      “2. Does cleaning and refining oil to make diesel fuel more difficult than making gasoline?”

      No.

      But the thing is, it’s all made by fractional distillation of crude oil. [http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/oil-refining4.htm]

      The crude has long, heavy hydrocarbon chains, and short, light ones, and in between.

      Roughly speaking, the mid-light stuff is gasoline and the mid-heavy stuff is diesel (this is a vast simplification, but good enough).

      So you have a basically fixed proportion of each in each unit of crude (though this varies from crude source to crude source, somewhat).

      With cracking and reforming you can turn smaller or larger chains into larger or smaller ones, but that is naturally more expensive than just distilling the extant ones out.

      So it’s not more difficult to make diesel, particularly – it’s just different fuel, and the proportions are hard to alter.

      (This is why diesel costs go up in the US in winter – because the same base oil is used for home heating, especially in the northeast. Increased demand, increase price.)

      On your last question, I believe the diesel design is mechanically better suited to low-RPM high-torque applications like shipboard motors than gasoline engines, though I don’t pretend to understand the mechanical reasons.

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al from Oz

      @Lynn E.
      I think you’ll find there are a few factors that are artificially inflating the price of the lower quality US diesel.

      1. Higher levels of tax on diesel.

      2. The US manufactures higher quality Euro diesel and exports the fuel to the EU. The reason is the US oil companies make more money selling to the EU than the US.

      3. The US/Canada particularly in the NE use vast quantities of heating oil, which is a distillate, competing with diesel fuel.

      Rather than pumping taxpayer dollars into useless EVs and hybrids the US could spend that money on decent gas infrastructure so all Americans can have access to cheap gas in their homes.

      This would have a large impact in reducing pollutants in NA than EVs and hybrids.

      The US has a poor energy policy protecting and subsidising it’s energy companies.

      • 0 avatar
        mkirk

        But one could argue that in Europe the inverse is true…higher taxes on gasoline while diesel enjoys the subsidy and even with those higher taxes here in the US it is still cheaper than other parts of the world.

        • 0 avatar
          Big Al from Oz

          @mkirk
          Yes, especially in France. Which is a to some extent a polarisation of the US situation in energy policy.

          The French like their canola farmers for bio diesel and the US like their corn farmers for ethanol.

  • avatar
    hybridkiller

    As a certified diesel fan this would normally be somewhat distressing news to me, but considering the breathtakingly mediocre fuel economy of previous diesel Jeeps I’m having trouble getting too worked up over it. Maybe if it were mated to that new-fangled 9sp…


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