Meet Our New Long-Termer, Sorta

Jack Baruth
by Jack Baruth

No, this isn’t my new car. That’s still two weeks away, at least, as the wheels of the insurance machine grind exceedingly fine. It’s the next closest thing to my new car — my father’s new car. Insofar as he bought it at my direct suggestion, and insofar as no manufacturer has ever given us a long-term Cayenne or Mulsanne or all the other piggy vehicles cluttering up apartment garages everywhere from Automobile to Autoblog, we’ll take our long-termers where we can get them.


This is replacing a 2009 ML350 4Matic. The best thing you can say about the 2009 ML350 was that it was much, much better than the 1999 ML320. But the best thing you can say about the new Grand Cherokee is that it is, in many ways, the best product in its segment. This particular one is a relatively conservative choice: an RWD Limited Pentastar with just a few options. To Dad’s chagrin but my secret joy, it happens to have the Class IV towing package on it. It’s not quite the loaded SRT-8 I suggested, but the Limited probably represents the best value for money in the lineup and it has everything you could reasonably want in an SUV that will basically be used as an airport runabout.

The dealer was Hilton Head Chrysler Jeep, and the sales and finance people involved were Mike Greggo, Dustin Adams, and John Lyons. They made Dad a square deal on the Benz and the Cherokee, enough so that I expect his overall costs for the next 75,000 miles to be lower despite the additional expense of purchasing the new vehicle.

We’ll keep you apprised of the ownership experience as it progresses. While this purchase might not sound like a bold move to most TTACers, it is to my father; it’s the first domestic-brand vehicle he’s owned since he chopped in his Town Car on a 1987 Maxima SE stick-shift. Watch this space!

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  • Importamation Importamation on Feb 03, 2014

    I have had a 2014 Limited JGC 4x4 for a month and 2600 miles.......love love love it. Last car was a 2008 E350 (gave to 16 year old daughter) and prior to that a 2000 S500. After several years and a combined 200,000 miles in those two cars, I am 100% happy with the Jeep fit, finish, ride and overall luxury. I am in a snowy area and own acreage where I do need the 4x4 (used to keep a 2004 Ram 1500 truck around for such duty, traded it in on the Jeep). I agree the Limited is the best value of the JGC lineup....I have the optional sunroof and top of line UConnect 8 inch screen with Nav, but those are the only options. Many, many thousands less than Overland and not very much at all more than the Laredo. I had a hard time finding a Limited 4x4/gas V6/sunroof/nav, had to search 10 dealers online. Lots of 4x2's and Hemis out there, and lots of Laredos and Overlands/Summits. The diesels are easier to find than I thought but at $4,500 and higher price at the pump, it makes no economic sense unless you have other reasons to get one, which I did not. On Chrysler reliability we have had a '93, '94, '04, '11, '12, and now my '14 JGC in my extended family and all have been very troublefree...as was my '04 Ram 1500, not one problem or repair in 10 years.....unbelievable.

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    • Lie2me Lie2me on Feb 05, 2014

      @White Shadow I thought they fixed the self-destruct @ 120K issue

  • Luvmyv8 Luvmyv8 on Feb 05, 2014

    Pentastar. 'Nuff said. In all seriousness though, how does the Pentastar move the Grand Cherokee around? I have a '12 Wrangler Sport 2 door with the 5 speed auto.... originally I wanted the 6 speed manual but this one came into my dealership as a trade and I got a smoking deal on it, it even had more equipment then I was looking for (I was going to go for a totally base model brand new Wrangler- power nothing, steel rims, soft top....) this puts it at roughly 4000 ibs- certainly not a lightweight. Even so with the auto and heavy weight, it moves. Though I don't have exact times, it *feels* like a 6.5 to a low 7 second 0-60. Merging and passing isn't a problem. It's rated at 285 hp and 260 ft.ibs of torque. I'm quite happy with my Jeep and it makes up for the POS Chrysler Concorde my parents had in the early 00's. I'm curious to see what your take is on it's performance Jack when you feel well enough.

  • David Murilee Martin, These Toyota Vans were absolute garbage. As the labor even basic service cost 400% as much as servicing a VW Vanagon or American minivan. A skilled Toyota tech would take about 2.5 hours just to change the air cleaner. Also they also broke often, as they overheated and warped the engine and boiled the automatic transmission...
  • Marcr My wife and I mostly work from home (or use public transit), the kid is grown, and we no longer do road trips of more than 150 miles or so. Our one car mostly gets used for local errands and the occasional airport pickup. The first non-Tesla, non-Mini, non-Fiat, non-Kia/Hyundai, non-GM (I do have my biases) small fun-to-drive hatchback EV with 200+ mile range, instrument display behind the wheel where it belongs and actual knobs for oft-used functions for under $35K will get our money. What we really want is a proper 21st century equivalent of the original Honda Civic. The Volvo EX30 is close and may end up being the compromise choice.
  • Mebgardner I test drove a 2023 2.5 Rav4 last year. I passed on it because it was a very noisy interior, and handled poorly on uneven pavement (filled potholes), which Tucson has many. Very little acoustic padding mean you talk loudly above 55 mph. The forums were also talking about how the roof leaks from not properly sealed roof rack holes, and door windows leaking into the lower door interior. I did not stick around to find out if all that was true. No talk about engine troubles though, this is new info to me.
  • Dave Holzman '08 Civic (stick) that I bought used 1/31/12 with 35k on the clock. Now at 159k.It runs as nicely as it did when I bought it. I love the feel of the car. The most expensive replacement was the AC compressor, I think, but something to do with the AC that went at 80k and cost $1300 to replace. It's had more stuff replaced than I expected, but not enough to make me want to ditch a car that I truly enjoy driving.
  • ToolGuy Let's review: I am a poor unsuccessful loser. Any car company which introduced an EV which I could afford would earn my contempt. Of course I would buy it, but I wouldn't respect them. 😉
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